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Pesachim 101a-b - Arvei Pesachim #4
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When Do You Have to Eat After Kiddush to Fulfill the Mitzvah This class was presented on Wednesday Parshas Vayikra, 6 Adar II, 5779, March 13, 2019 at the Ohr Chaim Shul, Monsey, NY For Source Sheets: https://www.theyeshiva.net/jewish/6254
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80 10 lines from the bottom Kavala
foamer Aleph what did the Gomorrah tell
us now the Gemara was teaching us that
RAV holes that kids doesn't have to be
malcolm sued so if you hickey the shul
you can go home and start your meal even
though you have to make a new bracha
MacGuffin
why because you changed your place you
went from one house to another house you
went from shul home but you don't have
to make a new kiddush you could make you
could start your meal and do I might see
and eat because kiddush doesn't have to
be but Malcolm stood there but small
disagreed and small said not only do you
have to make a new brush on wine when
you get home you have to make a new
kiddush and the reason is because small
holds painkillers Ella from crime so the
kiddush has to be in the place of the
meal and there are shabam gave the two
reasons for that Vacarro saw los cabos
Oneg and the savour that they
established the cup of wine to make
kiddush on Shabbos the wine batalha
stood there the wine as part and parcel
of a meal and the Gemara explained
abundance said that he heard from Shmuel
it's not only from the shul to the house
even in the house itself if you make
kiddush in the attic and the roof and
the second floor you come down you have
to make kiddush again that's what he
heard from smokers small used to make
sure to come down and make kiddush where
the meal was he wouldn't make kiddush on
the roof and the gomorrah says rabona
agrees moon also holds ain't kiddush a
little malcolm stood and that's why once
when he made the kiddush and it was dark
and he couldn't eat there he went in to
the canopy of his son and that's where
he ate and made kiddush and then the
gomorrah said that grab a soul zenki
Shalimar comes soda
so we everybody's small and we have a
moon and we have rubber and the camera
brings a story that I buy you said that
what when rabbi used to make kiddush
afterwards he would tell our students
before you go home eat something to
email media I want you to eat something
I want you to take
something why because perhaps when you
go to your hotel or the house you're
staying the candles have already been
extinguished and therefore there is no
light and even if you decide that you're
fine not eating and you're gonna go to
sleep but the problem is you didn't
fulfill the Mitzvah of kiddush because
you didn't eat here and my kid this
won't work for you you're gonna have to
make kiddush again and over there
you won't make kiddush again because you
won't be able to eat so even if you make
it this again over there it's not gonna
work because you're not gonna eat this
or therefore just eat your meal here so
we have three sources even though Rav
disagrees but we have small and rabona
robber I buy according robbed of all
hold and Kadesh Ella from comb Sudha
says the Gemara
a knee it's not so how could you tell me
that Rob agreed with small vomer abaya
by you said something fascinating call
Millie the mayor have a ovid care of all
the issues all the matters of my master
abayas master was a rabble rabble was
his uncle Robert was his mentor
Robert was his Reba I buy it was an
orphan and robber was his uncle and
robber raised him so rabba both raised
him as a father and he raised him also
as a Rebbe as a teacher so when he says
the master Maher is talking about robber
so he says all the matters of my master
used to follow Rav with var Mahon
e-class the Ovid Krishna law besides
three Halak I swear he followed Shmuel
against Roth
everything my teacher robber followed
robbed besides three things what are the
three things number one might eaten me
beggared lebesgue 't Martin and Rebecca
the beggin means I could take cities off
one one garment and place it on another
garment Rav holds that it's embarrassing
for the first beggar that you're
removing the citrus you now let it do
that
small halts you're not just removing it
you're removing it in order to place it
on another baguette let's say I have to
sit sis and one of my fringes of senses
becomes parcel of tears I takes it is
from another garment I put it on
Ralph says you now let it do that you
have to make new ones small halts Mateen
in me beggin lebesgue a doctor you are
allowed a while because he holds since
your take changing it to another
baguette it's not embarrassing for the
Mitzvah next mark like this very similar
Matt lickin me nail in there can I take
a hammock a candle that I already lit as
a Hanukkah candle and light with it
another Hanukkah candle Rav says you now
Lau do why because it's busy Mitzvah
this candle is a mitzvah thicker candle
don't use it to light another candle
it's embarrassing the Mitzvah small
holds mudlick in Manila Nair Rav would
say use a match
use a sama SH you could use a sandwich
that's fine but don't use the Chanukah
candle itself to light the other candles
Shmuel says not much look in my nail in
there because you're using it you're not
stop using it to light your stove you're
not using it to light your pipe you're
using it in order to light another
Chanukah candles so it's fine yeah yeah
yeah yeah right right yeah so this is
only for the Saints take it you want to
light the candles as what would revolt
what would small hole about using
Hanukkah candles for Shabbos candles
yeah it's an interesting question I
think it's fine I have to look it up but
I think yeah he would hold it's fine I
think I have to look next the halacha
could have shimon Bonita the next thing
he found what small was small used to
say the halacha is like rip Shimon when
it comes to greeters dragging the Tonya
we had a price Shimon I'm Arab Sherman
says Goro Tomita Kisa visage silver
Shabbos a person may drag a bed or a
chair or a bench on Shabbos on the
ground or bill virtuous Cavanaugh sweets
as long as you don't intentionally try
to make a furrow a hole in the ground
what is the idea
the Martin Oh Liam have a McLucas are
you allowed to do something on Shabbos
which as a result of that so
thing will happen which is a melaka not
intentionally but as a result of what
you're doing you what you're doing is
permissible but as a result something
may happen unintentionally which is a
Milan example you're in a bungalow
colony say in the country right and
you're gonna eat in somebody else's
house and there's not enough they need a
bench do you have a bench in your house
so you take your bench outside and you
schlep your bench from your house to the
other house on the ground on the earth
it may make a furrow which is a malacca
of plowing tyrese but it's not my
intention
it also may not happen but if we're
slepping a heavy bench on the ground it
may make a furrow on the ground it may
not but it may yes if it does make it
and I would have done that intentionally
it's called ploughing am I allowed to do
it this is called dover shana miss Gavin
he's doing something it may result in a
melaka but that's not his purpose that's
not his intention so this is the example
of dragging a bet on the ground without
the intention to create a furrow which
would be a Malakhov ploughing if it's
outside or malacca opinion of of
construction of building if it's in a
hall rip Shimon holds dovish animus
Calvin is motor you just allowed it's
fine
your be hooded disagrees your buda holds
that it's a sir
so dip Shimon holds that even if there
is a Faro it's fine as long as this was
not your intention and I should also add
as long as it's not inevitable which is
called secretion meaning if it's
inevitable to happen then you're ready
then it's you can't call it a dovish a
animus Calvin because it was part part
of action one is action - but if it's
not inevitable so then even if it
happens rip Sherman says it's fine and
it's motor Shmuel held the halacha was
like rip Shimon Rav held Allah who was
like ruby hood Dava Shana miss Kavanagh
sir robber followed Shmuel that lock is
like rip shimon lover shana miss Calvin
is mutter what do we see from here a
buyer said my master did everything like
you're out besides three things he would
untied citrus and put another baguette
he would lie to Fanuc account on others
a candle or he felt it's permissible and
he would drag something on Shabbos even
if we could make a furrow because it's a
dovish animus Calvin it's mutter those
are the three things that my teacher did
like Shmuel suddenly abayas
contradicting himself he told us
something new he told us that what that
robber also held like share all that
ain't kiddush Ella them come soon if he
would hold like Ralph they wouldn't have
to eat after kiddush they can make a
dish and then go home and eat it's fine
because kiddush doesn't have to be more
come sooner so i buy is contradicting
himself he told us a whole story that
robber demanded they shouldn't have
taken this because any kineceleran
welcome soda in other words he agrees
with small but I buy a told us that my
teacher used to do everything like now
besides three things and those three
things don't include kiddush and here we
have a fourth thing suck the Gemara
you've misunderstood abaya whom today
Ravi evolved it Kaku literally evolved
it robber followed Rav in all of his
stringencies besides three things where
he was lenient like small but cooler the
revolver but it doesn't mean that he
always followed around when it came to
leniency in other words in every area
where Rav was stringent and Shmuel was
lenient as a principal he always
followed Rath when ralph was stringent
and small was lenient he took Karev's
position to be mock me for stringency
besides three things were even though
Rav was stringent and small was lenient
he rejected their Avenue embraced more
that sits us the candle dovish animus
Calvin and all those three things Rav is
stringent and small was lenient and
that's the kiddush that in these three
things he embraced you more but there
could be things that he did like small
when small was stringent so that's what
happened it's not a contradiction he
used to follow around when it came to
stringencies besides three things but in
Kadesh Alabama come sooner he followed
small as astringency that is a leniency
that's not a hidden the kiddush is then
in three places
he followed small as a leniency when he
always used to follow Rav when he was to
engine but in this case he followed
small cost rules the stringent one there
are things we didn't follow Ralph when
following Roth meant being lenient
and that's one of the examples a
practical example the Halak is like yeah
we accept a la collection wall in this
area and that's why the vagina miss
Calvin is mutter so if your child has a
splinter you want to take it out on
Shabbos right you want to take it out
it's possible that you're going to prick
it in the process and there's going to
be the letting of blood which you're not
let it do on Shabbos but it's not
inevitable so you're allowed to take out
you let it take a tweezer whatever and
take out the splinter from the hand I'm
not talking about if it's a medical
figure if it's dangerous then of course
you're allowed oh you'll let it take it
out ah you could be there as a result of
that you're gonna do a melaka that's
fine your intention is not to make your
child bleed your intention is just to
take out the splinter that's a classic
example of a dover Shaina miss Calvin
right you may end up doing a melaka but
that's not your intention and it's not
inevitable so you're a lot of do it yeah
on the ground yeah on the lawn yeah you
know if you're for sure gonna make a
Faro then it's a challenge then it's a
problem we're talking about not for sure
yeah if you for sure gonna make a Faro
then it's a problem according to some
yeah that's another Mac like this yeah
yeah right exactly exactly yeah right I
want you to look for a moment on the
words of of a rabbit in the story that I
buy a told about robber what did he tell
the students he said just kihavah make a
dish when we were by our master when he
would make kiddush I Milani would say
two EMU middie I want you to taste
something to EMU media I want you to
taste something these words to EMU midi
can indicate a very interesting concept
and that is that you don't have to eat a
whole meal in order to fulfill the
obligation of kid nashville maqam soda
these two words become the source of a
very important halakhah
Rober didn't say stay here and eat
robber said stay here to taste something
so we learned from here that kid is my
mom said it doesn't mean the whole meal
has to be in the place of the kiddush
it's enough if you eat something here
and then the main meal you eat elsewhere
that's what we learned from these two
words to EMU me they taste something I
don't need you to eat all meal because
you might think kid this remark ensued
the means you have to do condition the
place of the whole meal but from here we
learn no you could start eating
something here as long as you started
even though much of the meal or the main
part of the meal you're gonna eat in
another house you don't have to make
another kid dish why cuz the main thing
is that you started to suit in the place
of the condition even though the primary
part of the student was not in the place
of the condition but since you started
to I'm agin the place of a chorus on the
Shabbos it is fine that's a give out the
conditional ah-huh that even if you eat
a little bit and you eat the most of the
soda elsewhere you don't have to make a
new kiddush oh very good very good
another interesting thing you see in
this story nothing evolved the good
thing you see in this story is look at
the story again and this is how we have
to be medallion stories I'm a rabbi I'm
gonna be Kiev inna Ben Meir when we were
by the master key have him a Kaddish
when he would make kiddush on my lawn he
would say to Imam mean he tastes
something when did he say this before he
made kitty sure after he made kiddush
look at the story when did he say it
then he said before Kidder's to taste
something and did he say it after
kiddush how do you know was after
kiddush excellent after kiddush right ki
have a Makabe sh when he made kiddush
all my long to him o midi what do we see
from here he probably said this after he
made kiddush this means that if you made
kiddush even if during the kiddush you
were not planning to eat anything but
after the kiddush you ate you fulfill
the obligation of Kadesh that's what we
see from robber because rabbit didn't
tell them before kid this make sure
you're gonna eat something he told them
after kids that means during Kadesh they
may have thought we're going right home
nonetheless it doesn't matter the ring
kid is you may have thought you're going
right on but if after kid is you eat
some
think even though you didn't have in
mind to eat drink it is you still
fulfill the obligation of kiddush why
because the condition was welcomed Sudha
even though during the kidneys you
weren't thinking about the soda that's
what you also learned from this story so
you'll learn two major things from this
story number one you don't have to eat a
whole meal and number two you don't even
have to have qivana by kiddush that
you're gonna eat as long as you ate
after kiddush ah now there's a third
question what do you have to eat how
much do you have to eat and what do you
have to eat he says to email me the
taste but don't say what taste what
hiring matches herring stickell
Mussina's snap what do you have to taste
this - emu Mindi taste something
obviously don't eat a whole meal taste
something doesn't mean to eat a whole
meal it means taste something but what
are you tasting that he doesn't say
clearly in this story another what did
he need what did he wants for them to
eat and naturally since it's ambiguous
so there is a McLucas about this what
else would you expect we are at we are
Jewish the question is what type of food
do you have to eat in order to be out
the mahkum soda since this is quite a a
practical question in life because
people often make kiddush and a similar
you go to a semca dish or ensure or
whatever you visit somebody for a few
minutes maybe even with your wife and
family and then you go home and you ate
something that the kid is right how do
you know if you have to make a second
condition when you get home to do
malcomson
so we learned that if you didn't eat
your for sure off to make a second
condition right but the question is if
you did eat at the place of the kiddush
do you have to make a second kiddush so
yeah that's fine Shabbos day yeah it's
just a bracha barrier prayer golfin
that's fine yeah even a Shabbos day you
could make kiddush many times because
Shabbos day it's just a bracha barrier
prayer Guffin that's the condition of
Shabbos day right Shabbos day kiddush is
only a blessing it's basically
yeah but if I drink wine here and then I
go home to drink wine and then I go to
your house to drink one and then I go to
your house to drink wine every time I
make a golfer so it's fine so I could
make kiddush for 20 people you
understand what I'm saying Shabbos day
it's fine but that's it no that's it
that's that's the kiddush of shoppers
day all the introductory remarks Shabbos
day is not kiddush it's just so kind
that we say before kiddush you
understand it's okay no no no kiddush is
only a blessing
Shabbos night Friday night there's a
serious kiddush you mention our shams
name baroque guitar emilich animales I
love my shaker Deshawn of him it's my
summer at Saban / Shabbos country etc
barakatuh Makeda Shabbos that's a
serious brush of kiddush okay Shabbos
day you don't have that job as day two
is just verses of how much that we say
before kiddush but that's not the kid is
that you could say anytime you could say
that a thousand times during the day
that's not a problem that's not a Brock
the only thing that we do Shabbos day is
Baraka tamil komal embroidered prayer
golfing as long as you went from house
to house the house you can make that
Braco many times so it's not a problem
boys or other people to play you also
don't have to eat you can make Kadisha
not eat they make and they hear kiddush
and they didn't eat then they'll have to
make you this when they come home of
course I can make killers for you I
can't eat for you so this is a Shannara
assimilation I in Gimelstob assimilation
Gitmo so just I'm gonna read for you the
conclusions in South America Roth when
he says as follows kiddush has been
welcomed so that that means if you made
condition one house and you ate in
another house whether you had in mind to
eat in the other house or you had in
mind to eat in this house but you ended
up eating in the other house you did not
fulfill your obligation with kiddush and
you have to make a new kiddush in the
new house before you start eating
whether it's Friday night with Shabbos
day because it says Vika rasa
abbis Enoch Luka Russell ashab asana
that have come and taught the place of
an egg in the place of the delight oh so
the Shabbos that's where it should be
the Karussell of Shabbos will you
declare Shabbos which is kiddush to the
clear that it's jobless and goodness
that should be where in the place of the
I egg in the place of the pleasure in
the place where you what you are eating
certainly if you made kiddush and you
didn't have a meal at all you didn't go
anywhere you just don't want to eat you
didn't fulfill the obligation of kiddush
right oh so important you didn't fulfill
that blade if you didn't eat after kid
that you did just like if you go
somewhere else gonna fulfill the
obligation of kiddush if I stay here and
surely I don't want to leave I didn't
fulfill the obligation of kiddush even
in one house if I'm going from one room
to another room
I made kiddush in one room and I decide
I'm gonna eat in another room and then
and I decide I'll go and then I go to
another room or I go from the roof down
to the first floor to the second floor
second floor to the first floor you have
to make a second time kiddush you have
to make a second time kiddush it's a
different room in the house you have to
make a second I'm finished in other
words let's say you make kiddush maybe
if you make kid this upstate let's say
here you mean we Davin up there you make
addition then you come down here for a
meal you have to make a new kiddush very
interesting even one house that's what
the Gemara said we learned from small
they would come down from the roof to
the first floor to make to make it to
make English now here I want to
introduce something very interesting
we'll see a mom will see in a moment
okay we'll see in a moment we'll see
that in a moment
the Kurosawa Shabbos Oneg literally it
means you should call out right for
Shabbos to be honest how come him said
the Karussell a Shabbos should be in the
place of Oneg in the location we have
the oyneg means pleasure the location we
have so the Shabbos that's where you
have to have the vac rustle of Shabbos
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the normal ways for people to get away
from you
usually yet usually now here's an
interesting thing there is showing him
quote a statement from Tom and you
rashon me in my sexist breakfast how
many who saw me says that small who was
the one who introduced this concept of
Kadesh remark I'm stood there holds that
if during kiddush you had in mind that
you're gonna eat elsewhere it's fine
even though you didn't make condition
that place that's what the US Army says
but it's obvious as they point out that
our Gomorrah doesn't agree with that
because if our Gomorrah would agree with
that then why would small say you can't
fulfill the kiddush that you made ensure
make conditions show have in mind that
you're gonna eat in the house and then
you're good you have to make another kid
is why would small argue with Ralph
so we're from argumarium clearly that
Shmuel holds that even if you have in
mind it's not going to work the
mindfulness having the intention I'm
gonna eat elsewhere is not going to work
so even though the your Xiaomi says it
they say that there's a McLucas between
the Bow Valley and the US Army when
there was an argument between the two
gamora's halakhah is like Bob Lee and
therefore they say we have to embrace
the view of the Gemara here that what
that even if you had in mind to go
elsewhere and eat when you made kiddush
it's still insufficient and you have to
make kiddush again even though your
Xiaomi small holds otherwise however
however many of the rishonim say that
there's no need to create an argument
between the two gamora's why they say
that the US Xiaomi is talking about one
house and the Bible is talking about two
separate houses
meaning if you go from schulter house
then small would agree that your qivana
doesn't matter and that's why he says
you won't be here it's a kiddush but in
the same house here small would agree
that if you had in mind to eat in
another room in the house then you could
be Yosa kiddush
you don't have to make another condition
so the US Army would agree with the
barely enough to make a mark like us so
when the smaller says whatever you're
thinking is enough if you haven't mind
to eat somewhere else the kiddush can
apply to that place it's only if it's
the same house because since it's the
same house it's already connected it's
already integrated it's just you're not
there you're in another room so if you
had in mind that mind could connect you
to the other place because it's really
in one house it's not like you don't
have to go leave the house and go to a
new place if you have to leave the house
and go to a new place in the fact that I
have in mind wouldn't be enough because
ultimately I'm leaving this place but
because I'm in one house so then if your
mother Shover
is there so it's already connected
because it's considered one house it has
one gather it has one bias that would be
a very very interesting interesting
halakhah and as a result of this as a
result of this hala column I sir this is
accepted by many and that's why even
though we see kids from welcome so that
has to be even in one house but if you
were upstairs and you made kiddush you
made kiddush and you hadn't mind to eat
downstairs right according to this many
of the posts come so you would not have
to make a dish again because it's one
house although the ballot on you says
it's better like a pillar not to do this
because there was another of the
over there on who holds that this
is not true the bobbly holds that das is
irrelevant even in the same house and if
we says it's better not to rely on this
it's better to do kiddush mom is from
Malcolm's soda but there is a very
strong smarter based on this you allow
me to say that luckily my sir and he
says you can do it it's just better not
to that what if you had in mind to make
to have the meal Elsa even though you
may finish upstairs it's good but from
one house to another house or from the
house to the courtyard your thoughts
don't help and you have to make kiddush
a second time but there's one exception
and that is if then this is your
question if when I'm eating in a room I
could see the place where I made kiddush
for example a kitchen is open to the
dining room
so I make kiddush in the kitchen or in
the dining room I eat in the kitchen and
the place where I'm eating I could see
the place that I made kiddush even
through a window there's a window
between the two
and even if I can't see the whole room
right let's say there's two adjoining
rooms is an angle of a dining room in a
living room
you made conditioned the living room you
go to you in the dining room you can't
see from the dining room the whole
living room but you could see part of it
and maybe even through a window through
an opening so so in such a case yes I am
that it's called Kadesh from Arkansas
because both of these places are called
one place when it comes to kiddush this
is the of the of the tour and my
admission in the name of the Ghanim the
shelter Nara and although again there
are those who argue with it but he says
you could rely on it certainly but Shah
saqqaq you could rely on it you could
see you could potentially see you might
not be facing right if the place where
you gonna eat from there you would be
able to see the place where you made
kiddush even part of that room and even
through a window yes I am room there is
a in a locker that it's fine yeah
right right
another important thing is if you have a
huge room let's say a wedding hall you
have a sever Broca's you make kiddush in
one corner you could continue eating in
another corner that's completely not a
problem
why because one room is considered one
place it's called the same market so
it's a huge buffet I'm doing kid and
share and I eat there it's still called
kids room welcome Sudha and but it's
interesting the mugging of Rama says
look I feel it's not a good thing to do
this because again some people argue
even with this some people argue even
with this even in one room odka de Kock
out can they
yeah that that's the principle yeah
that's the principle yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah finally we come to the point of
what do you have to eat so the going
them taught us that when we say ain't
killers hello and welcome so that
doesn't mean that you have to eat the
whole meal as we just saw you just says
taste the question is what do you have
to eat even if you eat a Casillas okay
so we're in there is a few different
this here even if you eat a
Casillas of bread you're good one cuz I
said brandy good even according to many
if you eat a Casillas of the other five
minim meaning not a cos is of bread
barley or wheat but even a cos iose of
of other grains for example bergamini
Amazonas right cake a Casillas would be
good
others say even a reviews of wine so if
you either cuz I so bread you for sure
good if you wash even if you a the cause
is of MS anus you're just that cake cuz
I similar is good some say even if you
drank a reveals which is just like four
ounces of wine besides the cup of
kiddush they say it's good enough
you did the sudha and you could continue
eating somewhere else now or later and
you don't have to make a new kiddush why
because you already started you stood in
the first place and the second sudha is
just a continuation it's basically like
this sooo delicious
the third meal you don't have make
kiddush you don't make hitters before
what happens however if you only ate
fruits at the kiddush you just ate
fruits or you drank soda or you drank
other stuff then you're not yet cicada
to Malcolm soda
why because wine is considered satiating
and burger minimize anus is called ma
sign so that's called sudha why Norma's
anus is called Sudha
but fruits or other liquids or shackles
is not going to be called is not gonna
be called Sudha great yeah yeah yeah
so this is a very this is a very
important idea that you don't mamas have
to have to eat bread okay
some same Amish bread but but many say
even Mozilla's and and about what Tanya
tine is even wine although some argue
about wine but certainly you could rely
on bread and Amazonas and according to
many even wine but not anything else
no Holland is not soda child is not so
if I make kiddush and I eat herring and
then I eat some sharland and then I eat
some kishka and then I take an orange
and then I take an apple right even
though this I have to make another kid
ish but if I eat a cos iose of bread or
I eat ACCA's ice of cake or according to
many even I drink four ounces of wine
then I'm yet to the Suder the beginning
of the center of to make another kiddush
there is a schita that he brings that
even if you drank the reviews of wine
from the cup of kiddush your Yeats a
kiddush from welcome soda
you don't need sued only if you didn't
drink a Revere's but if you drank a full
reviews of your kiddush cup you already
did your kid dish and your soda so he
says you should rely on this only in a
time of need for example if there is
yeah he said that you should rely on it
but if you could drink another reviews
of wine B drink another reviews of wine
and then and then and then you're good
okay a rave reviews
somebody should taste a rave reviews so
someone's in a place there's no food if
there's no food then you just have wine
and you drink reviews of wine and then
you know if to make Kadosh a second time
well you don't have like a mission I
mean it's not a Sudha but it's it's a
suit in the sense that it's called
Kadesh from welcome soda yeah sue does
that but it's still not welcome yet
you examine here and you vote to kill ya
person like me I cannot eat and telling
you much go there go so am I better not
to taste anything there who only and go
over me why you could taste it's nothing
wrong yeah you could taste you can
either Stickle herring but you'll just
make a second kid nothing wrong with
making a second goodness no you don't
have to you don't have to but if you
don't eat you can't think that you will
yo see with the skiddish you have to
make a second kiddush if somebody made
conditioned his house and his neighbor
who lives next door hurt kiddush from
him in his house and he has his table in
front of him that neighbor fulfilled his
obligation because he heard kiddush in
the place of his soda so it's a funny
thing you're saying kiddush in your
house if you would eat with me you
wouldn't be out to the kiddush but since
I'm eating with me not you I just heard
you as long as you had me in mind
Hey Yankel just have me in mind then
we're good why because I heard kiddush
it's fine
look I could be Oates of my neighbors
with kiddush no you have to have a mind
you have to have a mind dividend a VM
and a VM is Shia Kabbalah it's called
every Kabbalah right right
something about a Veidt something
tomorrow right three lines from the
bottom could follow from an hour's
rabbuna no more abuse and has a third
opinion if you make conditioned soul a
few day yah in nami Otsu the ocean and
says wow not only a it's a conditioned
soul and you have to do a new kid
in your house you don't even have to do
a new broker on wine in your house
Rav said if you make conditioned soul
you're good you know if to make a new
condition your house but you have to
make our Gulf in your house you they
kiddush you it's about you there yeah
small said you're not yeah it's a not
wine and that kid this you have to make
a new condition for sure you have to
make a new brach on wine relational is
the most lenient he says come home and
you don't have to make a new kiddush you
know have to make even a new graha you
could sit down for your meal wash I
might see and you're ready continue
drinking wine in the house from the hug
often that you made in shul and you
drank and show by the kiddush apke dick
huh in other words your buchanan halts
that if i had in mind to drink wine in
my house i had in mind when i make it as
requiring a mouse so the drinking in the
house is a continuation from the
drinking in the show and i don't have to
make a new broker in the house so he
argues with ravaged floor they hold when
you go home it's considered a new drink
because it's done in a new place and the
fact that you had in mind doesn't
connect the two places
it just means you wanted to continue
drinking but lapel you physically
interrupted this drinking and you
started a new one you had in mind but
geographically you're not in the same
place so therefore it's called a half
set you left this place you're going to
new places considered a new drinking in
reality even though your mind connected
it to but your mind doesn't replace
reality right x-rays don't replace the
image reputation and says no your mind
does define reality the fact that i was
ensuring add and mine to drink the air
yeah so it's like the about something
what's that the muhkam shamash after
shallow them so moon EMSA where your
thoughts are that's where you are
because my thoughts are I want to
continue drinking in the house so the
geographical separation dissolves in the
mental connection between the two places
and it's considered a continuation of
the same drink even though I had to walk
10 minutes 20 minutes 30 minutes
whatever it is over next door to get
home so therefore regulation and says
when I drank wine ensure it's fine I
just have to say it even a question of
Eurasian I'm if I heard hug uh finantial
and I didn't drink it's not gonna work
why cuz even in your own house it won't
work right let's say I say boy your pre
hug often yeah and then I start talking
to you for ten minutes I have to make a
new Brock on the wine so if I heard how
guffin in Seoul and I didn't drink and
then I go home you're gonna have to make
a new huh guffin simply because of the
have stick between the broker and the
drinking you understand but if I drank
control and then I make a half sick and
I go to another house and off to make a
new broker that's an important emphasis
that Toys R Us makes let's say you
didn't drink Hervey's
let's he didn't drink Revere's if you'll
take a look once they're gonna toast us
rebuking a number a few day Yaya Tzu
second-to-the-last Isis oh mighty shall
say babe a sickness s a fog of the
leaning kiddush yotsuba schmear for kid
this you don't have to drink you just
have to hear could the pre - delay Ling
in the ioan look apparently in yeah in
like pot - LEM cane salsa the other half
sick the renovated cakes the reversing
I'll be on my team who sits on a clown's
Olivera but when it comes to the Brock
of wine you have to drink right after
you make the bracha
so if I heard the Brooklyn shul and then
I go home and I drink after make a new
brother because of this interruption
between the brush and the drinking but
if I already drank control and then I go
home and I says you have to make a new
broker where Raph says you have to make
sure mole says you have to make why
because there was an interruption it's a
new drinking regulation it says because
I had in mind it's not the same for
other ambition alotta made I'm reckonin
by a buyer I've gone in the son of a
buyer said I'm a rebel doesn't the name
of ripped us a manipulation ever be
excellent I thought she knew yayan the
effort Chenier makam and sorrows lovara
give out the kitchen dish if I drink
wine and then I drink again in another
place I'm sorry if I drink wine in one
place and then I drink again
a different type of wine that's called
Sheila Lyon a different
flavor a different caliber a different
barrel a different type of wine I don't
have to make a new boiler priya guffin
on the second drink whether the second
drink was from a different wine which is
different than the first wine or she
lahmacun it was in a different place
the Buchanan holds a change of wine and
a change of place doesn't cancel out the
first broker you don't say it's a
different type of wine and therefore I
have to make a new broker no and you
don't say I went to a different place
and therefore have to make a new Braja
whether it's genuine or Chenier mahkum
you don't have to make another brush
it's always considered the continuation
of the first first first drink of course
there are there are bomb points out
famously when emulation and says she
knew enough to make a new brush is
talked about by the prior government but
there's an uproar called hot toy waha
motive which one does make when you
bring out a second bottle of wine a
different type of wine which is superior
that's another brush type I made that
it's not talking about when he says she
no yawning so close he's talking about a
new boiler Priya guffin the fact that
the wine changed this ear is irrelevant
why because your mind you didn't take
your mind away from the first drink even
though you left the house or you change
the type of wine you got according to
most post-game as long as it's not
inferior assumptions it's better yeah
but I'm saying is it did Fourier - the
first one that's fine you make it's fine
you could follow your bar
yes as long as you're not debar yeah
very good so when the Buchanan says that
you don't have to make a new broccoli
he's not only talking about wine he's
talking about every food the patient
knows if I start eating in one place and
I continue to eat in another place and
I'll have to make a second bracha as
long as I did not take my mind off the
eating which as we will see this is
exclusively the view of rebuking on and
it's not the halacha but this was the
view of reparation involved I can finish
enough to make a new brush even though
you changed places you left the house he
came to Newark as long as you did not
interrupt it mentally you had in mind to
continue yes he comes to be mental
interruption these are also a time
factor this is more than 72 minutes or
something like that that cancels out no
it doesn't seem it doesn't seem to be an
issue says the Gemara mesa they asked
the contradiction under Buchanan from a
Bryson the Bryce it tells us clearly the
tannoy important remark I'm sorry
Oliveira if you change your location the
middle of the drinking you have to make
a new broker even if you had in mind to
continue drinking she knew yayan if you
change your wine ain't Sarris levar it
to you third it'll be ocean and this is
a refutation of regulation on who
believes you don't have to make a new
broker with SHINee Malcolm and the
Gemara says indeed to youth to this is a
ref you this is a refutation
in other words regulation its position
has been refuted it's true that if
there's a new one you don't have to make
a better PR golf it but if it's a new
place if I left the house and I go to a
new place even though I had in mind when
I made conditions show that I want to
continue drinking and hours I have to
make a new burger Priya guffin unlike
rabbuna the question is Ralph says
kiddush work lunch moles as kidneys also
didn't work but that's another argument
but in terms of Shinri mahkum in terms
of the brock our governor after make a
new bra so the Gemara it says your
savory of IDI by oven commander of
wisdom revita the son of oven was
sitting in front of the president the
awesome her pisda
andhra prince de was sitting with karma
mich made arun and he was quoting Ramona
so if Edie was sitting in front of her
prisoner and replace de was quoting her
phone and her Puna said hard the omelet
she mimicked I'm sorry levar a whenever
we say
that if you change your place you have
to make a broker like shun no LME by
Islah bias this is only true from home
to home
I'll go me Malcolm lahmacun but from one
place to another place in the same home
lie it's not called a Shamir malcolm and
you don't have to make a new bra that
means if I start drinking wine in my
house and then I go up to the second
floor and I continue the drinking
festivities according to the appears in
the name of Ramona I wouldn't have to
make a second broker brighter for young
golfer rebuking an old even if I go from
house to house but rabona said house to
house you have to put place to place in
the same house you don't have to make a
a new Braja on my lady of edy bar oven
sort of indie bar oven who heard this
tells or is de hoc eaten in Alabama snis
said the very Vinick in fact we learnt
this already in a bracer that was taught
in the Shiva the bay is the Shiva of
ravinok of a man named of in it but I'm
relaying some say the must miss said the
bay Beranek it was no Brice of the shiva
of the son of Hinnom either was the
achieve of ravinok or the achieve of the
son of Hinnom have a say and it supports
you that Brice it clearly says that in
one house it's not called a shinny
Malcolm so ya habibi supported refused
as words asked the Gemara valor of
Horniman it's a commercial one so his
opponent just telling us what it says in
the price if a browser supports and why
didn't have to say this is Merced abouna
mustnít solution ela Ramona did not hear
about this Bryson because the opponent
was an admirer
the fact was that I'm Iranian fluently
they knew all the Mishnah is he couldn't
be an admirer if he did not know Oh
every mission of I heart word-for-word
every I might add to not all the mission
eyes because that was the structure the
text that they worked with but the
brightest they didn't always know so
it's possible that rabona
did not hear about this Bryson this
Bryson ever heard about and that's why
the burner felt that it's important I
welcome to say because he didn't know
that there's a bracer of the Shiva of
ravinok or the son of rabbinic Beranek
that tortoise so this is a new finish
that shinra malcolm will only apply from
house to house and not from place to
place
which would mean which would mean that
what we learned before by kiddush by
malcolm sudha and
learning now is two different creatures
because my kid is remarkable so do we
learned small that even from place to
place in the house from upstairs to
downstairs you have to make kiddush
again right
that's why small came down to make
kiddush because it's not cold makam soda
but here we're learning that what that
if I start drinking downstairs and I
continue drinking upstairs not all
skiddish but else brother I don't have
to make a new bracha that means that kid
is remark I'm soon there would be much
more stringent than this halakha of
changing your place and middle of
drinking we're here we say that if you
change your place if it's the same house
you don't have to make a new brother why
this is so important is because we have
this text in the Gemara but many of the
is showing him when we look in their
commentary here they had a different
version of the Gemara they saw in a bona
he doesn't say Ivo me Malcolm lahmacun
he says I will meet Pina
latina from corner to corner that's what
he Santa that's a completely different
gear sir that means in one room if I'm
sitting in a big dining room and I'm
sitting here drinking wine and then I go
there and I continue drinking I don't
have to make a new broker but if I'm
sitting here and I go upstairs I would
have to make a new bra so these two
versions and the Gemara are really very
very different because let's say I start
drinking here and then I go up there do
I have to make a new broker according to
the opponent no it's the same house but
according to the second version no only
in one room don't you have to make a
broker which would mean that then kid is
from welcome sudha and SHINee Malcolm
are actually are actually identical they
reflect each other because what did we
say my kid is remark I'm soo de that two
rooms in one house are considered two
separate places and if you made
condition one you can't eat in another
one again unless you could see it as a
window where butt shots are cough you
can rely on it or or or it was or was
one big room with two corners etc even
though over there is also an argument
but but according to the second gear
serve there is shine and it means that
kid is rumor comes to then she might
come out of the same halacha
in both cases from house to house you
have to do a new conditioning after
doing Abraha even in one house from room
to room
do a new killer chef doing abraha the
only way you're exempt is if it's in one
room from corner to corner but let's
remember we brought to you a shaman who
said that small holes that hitted
remarkably sudha in one house you can do
even from room tumor if you had in mind
right if you had in mind one house would
help and therefore according to the
opinions who hold that if you made
kiddush in one room in the house and you
had in mind to eat in another room
that's going to be good because it makes
the whole house like one place your mind
could connect the house but your mind
cannot connect two houses so by Shannon
welcome that would be the same Holika
Holika with me that if during the bracha
i have in mind to continue eating in
another room in the same house i will
not have to make a new braja but if i
have in mind to eat in another house i
would have to make a new bra so that
means I make a bra con coffee this
happens here constantly people go to
that room they start their coffee they
make Chacal they come into this room do
they have to make a new brach or not
what do most people do they don't make
but really really have to make a new
broker right I can't see the room of the
coffee here certainly if it's upstairs a
hero's I can't see right there's no
window unless you want to know her maybe
wants to make a window no no if I made
if I bring the coffee here and I make
sure how beautiful but if I make sure
how cool here and then I go upstairs
with this coffee with another coffee
doesn't matter or I made a coffee in
that room and I make charcoal i smooth
in the morning this they have the
cigarette hour at 5 o'clock in the
morning ok and I make sure how come then
I come into this year and I sit and I
continue drinking right people don't
make another shot
what would really the hello could be
so according to the first gear Singham
our rabbuna said right namikawa mahkum
is fine if it's the same house but we
just learned the gears of the Roisin em
that what only one corner to another
corner but my Makka Moo Makka would not
be good you have to make a new bracha
however however we learned okay a car
the car is moving but you're in one
place I mean you're on a boat right the
boat may be moving you're in one place
you're on an airplane you're not gonna
make a brook 6.6 million times same
thing people make a coffee here they
make sure Jaco they go into the car okay
and the car you drive the way that's
already me bhai Aslam iose that's not my
maka maka right here in upstairs is one
bias yeah here to the tent yeah it's not
I mean it's owned by one guy well a
courtyard is yes that's not good by
that's not called mean welcome welcome
yeah yeah so the course what's the best
you don't drink it here you just wait
til you get into the car again and then
you make a brush people buy potato chips
they make on them and then they start
walking around everywhere
eating the potato chips right they have
to make a new broker you went out of the
room you went out of the building
you can't continue eating the potatoes
to make a new broker on potato chips you
don't have to that's gonna be the next
soldier when the after bench after
potatoes you don't have to so this is
something so the truth is that Liholiho
according to most points come just like
kid is from Arkansas if you make kid is
in one room and you can't see the other
room and you go out to the other room
you have to make a new kiddush unless
you had in mind right unless you had in
mind during kid are you gonna eat in
another room so this is by SHINee muhkam
would be the same halacha no the car
won't help that's my bias lobbyist
that's my bias Luke Hudson but if I made
if I took my coffee in that room in the
four year what does that call the foyer
huh fire okay
mud room foyer I wanted to say for you
say mud rooms as I mud room and you make
a breakfast shikaka
and when you're making you have in mind
I'm going to a shear right and I'm gonna
be there so then you don't have to make
a new bracha because just like my
kiddush if you have made kidneys
upstairs and you had a mind to eat the
meal downstairs according to many you're
good but if you didn't have in mind this
coffee grows when I need it probably
twenty bravas when you came out of the
car and you continue drinking when you
came into the building and you continue
drinking in that room and when you came
into this room you continue drinking
[Laughter]
it's a problem you buy potato chips in
this store you make Cod dama you start
eating it and then people walk out of
the store they go on to the car they
continue eating it even as soon as you
walk out you have to exactly exactly you
went into the cut sir
okay how local am i sir how this all
applies practical is gonna be the next
year we're gonna continue it tomorrow
basil your das can help
Makeda LaHaye doin one bias but you das
can't help for another house just like
kidneys Moroccan soda ah yeah
the Mishna Brewer has a whole long
Stickle here he says people walk around
ya and they eat everywhere and Messiah
so you're saying you have one one - that
whenever I whenever I eat it's never for
that place my whole life it's really
where else I make a coffee don't think
it's for here those you tell you my
whenever I make a broth it's not for
here it's for everywhere I go running
you mean a middle of the marathon you
decide to drink
it's a good question in other words
you're outdoors if you're in our house
we said it helps but if you're outdoors
so does the whole world outdoors become
a house right that's a good question
you're running you're running in a field
or a park or whatever on a track and you
have a bottle of water and you hold it
yeah people they're biking they do it
constantly and you take out the bottle
so is that cool the house and you
haven't that you have bad ass when
you're drinking this water the first
time you know that in five minutes
you're gonna do it again in a half an
hour again I mean that's your das you
have a whole bottle you're not drinking
at all now so you want to know if the
outdoors becomes combined like a house
right that's a good question so we'll
explore that also tomorrow Bleen either
maybe you should start
no by kiddush the Vorta is that the
kiddush and the sued after me in one
place now without my two a separate
thing not the kiddush in the soda a
regular day I have a meal and I make a
Brokaw on a piece of Mozilla's here and
then I take it and I go up there and I
continue it does but I really made a
broke on the food yeah I'm drinking this
coffee I'm not making a Lucia how cool I
really made 20 minutes ago Jacques I
take this cup and I go upstairs
excellent you want to know my kid dish
it has to be the place of the soda who
cares about the place it's the same very
good question the answer is the answer
is that shinra mahkum makes up or half
sick in the evening it's called unn just
like a new coffee if I have a nuke or
somebody brings me in our Luke off you
have to make a Shaka why so to another
cop what's the difference
whose I'm you brought me a new coffee I
made a block on this coffee so what do
that the answer is the brush and the
food have to connect the brussels was on
this coffee now you bring me a new cup
of coffee that didn't get a broker so i
have to make a new shark ah only if I
had in mind if I thought I'm gonna have
no coffee or the coffee's in front of me
then I don't have to make a new Brock
but if you now bring me a new cup of
coffee I wasn't planning different place
oh I'm giving an example says the
halacha
when I change a place it's an
interruption of the first year the first
drinking got interrupted right so this
is considered just like if you bring a
new food this who didn't get abraca even
though this is not a new food it was
here for me but it's a new act of it's a
new suit it's a new act of eating it's a
new act of drinking because I change
places it's not a Hampshire yeah we live
in the McDonald's generation so places I
don't matter eat in the car eat in the
kitchen you damned a life negate we
don't connect we don't in our minds we
don't connect food with place but really
food is connected to the place you sit
you eat it's an act it's an activity it
needs consciousness das so when I go to
a new place it's not time I change
places
how lossless sees this is an it's a it's
a new incident it's a new drink not it's
a new drink B'gosh meais it's not a new
drink regarded I was holding the cup but
it's a new my Sofia that's disconnected
from the previous mine sucia like a
whole new Matthias the brothers not only
it's on the eating and the drinking this
is like a new drinking it's a new
drinking read just like if I drink and
then I come to your house and I start
drinking yeah
so with it attack a new water yeah so we
say it's a whole new thing but I made a
Brooke on water you made a Brock on that
water even if it's the same water
you made a Brock on the water in that
place but now the water is in a new
place it's a new blood comes to your
house you stir in the house will give
you well we'll see tomorrow depends what
you eat us there's a different in a
coffee and cake so cake and wine okay
we'll see over there you mean
missingness it's Messiah
I said kishka no you're right if it's
miserliness you're right I guess I was
so much uh cook well the Kiska
Kiska is chocol the Kiska flowers -
you're right if the kishkes missingness
and it's mahkum so they erect barley
cholent is Right barley challans mazayas
Onis if you eat a keziah submissiveness
then you're good if it's Amazonas like
ishka - you're right I stand crime
mnsure hakufu
yes shackled roland is not enough yeah
yeah in other words so the Shinra mahkum
so does p creates a Chinook after you
say but it's the same cup of coffee now
this cup of coffee was here that's like
a new cup of coffee it's a new
experience is it yeah but if the
physical the same physical
food the brothers not just on the same
physical coffee because I changed place
it's like a new act of eating the fact
that I changed and the place changed the
whole experience changes it's like I sit
down for a new coffee drink a new meal i
sat down for a new is the same food that
they brought them downstairs they just
brought it upstairs it's considered a no
meal so it needs a new bracha in other
words the brother of an hour ago can't
apply to this food right now even though
I made a brach on that food because
since I changed locations it's
considered a new my sake line it's like
I'm starting new let me give an example
okay an example let's say I'm eating the
I'm drinking coffee yeah on the table
it's late at night I go to sleep I wake
up in the morning I come back you think
I have to make a new bracha say please
I'm a kitchen it's midnight I'm tired I
go to sleep I wake up 7:00 in the
morning I come back to the death table
hi I made a Brooke on this coffee
yesterday
so what so you're saying the bracha was
five hours ago
it expired nah there's a shelf-life huh
huh okay so another the brother expired
I this coffee had a brush yeah five
hours ago okay when I change places when
I change places that's just like that I
have second time I'm not a middle of
this syndrome that's the point
oh so few das is in the same house that
connects the two we gotta fall asleep
kind of super new except the chicken is
like a new road cuz over there it's
different then he went to sleep but I'm
just saying just like in time you
understand that the brush on this
doesn't apply in the morning because of
the half second time there's also
something called a half second space
when I take the food from this space to
another space so the broccoli doesn't
apply the broccoli here cuz it's a whole
new experience now you made a brach on
this coffee yeah
but there was half said was that because
I went to sleep where I went away yeah
so here I took the food with me but it's
now I have sick it doesn't continue yeah
when you go to sleep it's a half seconds
man mahkum das everything I'm just
giving an example that even he's asking
it's the same coffee upstairs and
downstairs saying when you go to sleep
it's also the same coffee but the brook
on the coffee last night doesn't work
for drinking the coffee today
so the brook on the coffee that in this
house doesn't work for the same coffee
in another house or even in a must you
know even if there was das or even in
this house if there was no das why
because they have sick mahkum they have
sick Malcolm yeah it uproots it from the
first brother just like a new coffee I
need a new Brock and it's like if I come
back tomorrow on the same coffee I need
a new bra cuz the broken from yesterday
doesn't apply to the coffee today it so
to speak expired why because there was a
tremendous interruption here also the
fact that I changed location is not in
the same room I went to a completely
different that I don't see so it's
considered so to speak like a new coffee
it's not a new coffee but it's
considered like a new coffee why because
the place has an impact so when it comes
to bread if when you washed for the
bread and you made how much you had in
mind to continue eating somewhere else
then it's fine and you can bench them so
we're gonna learn tomorrow there's a
difference between different breakfasts
in other words coffee is not cake coffee
is not bread because this types this
this thing that when you bench you have
to bench in this place and there's
things that you don't have to make a
broker crown in that place so we need
the halacha also changes in other words
if the food if you leave it and it's if
it's pulling you back okay we'll
continue tomorrow
McDonald's generation my wife's
grandfather's 101 first time we have a
new restaurant
really on July 1 years old can i Inanna
no no wait they don't know about it I
know I'm thinking my grandparents they
ever heard of a restaurant who know
about a restaurant you ate in your house
there's no such as that ah yeah you
stopped in a shop you pick up a cake at
this and that that's how we live we all
live that way
today we even have meals on trucks and
this at a vomit of truck here you eat on
trunks know that the concept of
muckerman food is is today different
generation of different marks are huh
people don't associate food with it's on
the go
meals on the go like in war you know the
soldiers are more what do they call the
meals the rations of soldiers but
there's a name for the food re ready
army right ready ready made ready meals
for the for the troops did I answer your
question yeah okay slaughter this class
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