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Peretz Eichler interviews Assemblyman Gary Schaer on Bill A4288
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Peretz Eichler interviews Assemblyman Gary Schaer on Bill A4288
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hi everybody this is Paris beer Straight
Talk America we all know that we're
living in very perilous times recent
events that have taken place in our
country and around the world tell us
that there is a threat to the security
not only To The World At Large but to
our particular Community right where we
are most vulnerable to any of these
incidents as has been so visible are the
children that attend schools around the
world now in light of this assman gar
Sheriff from pic has introduced
something called the secure schools for
all children act a428 as it is
technically known which would provide
$25 per child or roughly about
3.7 3.75 million doar per year for
non-public school safety now these funds
would enable our children our schools to
be Prov provided with adequate security
for what obviously we consider our most
precious possessions are children now
the pill has been the bill has been
posted for a vote in the assembly the
assembly education committee which is
taking place this Thursday in the
morning and as u a Israel director in
New Jersey ABI schn has said assemblyman
Gary Sher has worked very diligently to
secure this meeting and uh everybody is
asked to support the bill we want to
find out why it's so important to
support that and we fortunate to have
with us right here assemblyman Gary Sher
with us to talk to us about the
importance of the bill assemblyman Sher
thank you for joining us here on
Straight Talk America it's a great
pleasure to uh to be speaking with you
parents what precipitated the call to
action as it were for for this bill to
be brought to the floor well as you had
just said most eloquently uh we're
living in a very dangerous World we're
all too familiar with acts of terrorism
going on around the world many of them
pinpointing Jewish targets the most
identifiable targets within our
community are obviously our
Yas um throughout the entire state if
not throughout the entire country
they're noticeable they're
obvious um and driving through any of
our communities with a high from
population they're clearly
noticeable the bill as you had said
would direct $25 per child uh
to uh allow the administration of the
school uh to pinpoint where the needs
are whether it be a security guard
whether it be various technological
systems uh but all aimed uh to providing
a greater sense of security uh for our
children while they're in school um as
you had mentioned the uh Bill cost would
probably be somewhere between
3.7 to 4.1 or 4.2 million ion when you
think of a budget a state budget in
excess of 33.8 billion it sounds like a
poultry amount um but the bottom line is
it's got the money has to be found um
and finding for million dolls is not an
easy task but we're very helpful the
education uh Committee of the general
assembly will be meeting this coming
Thursday to discuss the bill we're
hoping that the Senate will put it on
their committee docket on June
11 um and at that point uh we're hoping
that both the speaker of the assembly as
well as the Senate President will hear
the bills in full session we can get the
bill passed and uh send it to the
governor's office for Governor
Christie's consideration do Public
Schools already have a security program
in place this that this would be akin to
well it wouldn't be a kin if only
because the public schools are getting
so much more per child uh
right now parochial schools is shivas
receive Aid in three distinct areas one
in terms of busing a second in terms of
nursing Aid and a third in terms of
technological aid technology Aid this
would open a fourth area for the state
to involve itself uh with the proo
school Community um and again given the
threats that our children are having
against them um as well as all uh
children in the state um as I've
reminded uh several of my friends on the
other side of the aisle these are all
New Jersey children and all of them
should be entitled to the same basic uh
same basic availabilities of you will if
you will of Safety and Security that's
absolutely true there's no question
about that what I'm asking simply do do
the public schools recognize a uh a need
for security as well do they ask
security prau in place or is this
something that's just native to the to
the non to the non-public schools
because of the their um their target
ability as as religious institutions
Public Schools currently receive funding
for each child for security
Aid um the law governing how that money
is expended is uh a little bit more open
um how they use that money is really up
to each district in this particular bill
we want to drive home to our friends in
the public school community that this
$25 per child Aid would in fact be used
strictly and only for security in fact
the bill requires that uh the parial
school work in tandem with a local
Public School
Superintendent um and receive his or her
approval in terms of the actual
expenditure in the same way that uh
technology and nursing is expended as
well um so to answer your question
directly yes the public schools receive
funding for security aid but that is
undefined in terms of what that is
within the bral school Community the
bill would call for the money going
specifically and only for security
measures and I would argue even in the
best of times with no terrorists with no
Hamas with no Isis or Isel uh we need
our children to be protected that's
right but unfortunately that is not the
reality of the age in which we live in
was there anything in particular that
that sparked this was it just a um an an
act of conscious that just said up until
this point we we realized that uh there
was something really going ay in the
world was this any one particular what
we would call in the uh in the
entertainment industry the inciting
incident that that sparked this well I I
I think clearly the most recent incident
in Paris
um affecting the uh the supermarket uh
what we see going on in France overall
in terms of Jewish children what we see
going on within the the Jewish Community
throughout the
world um was there one specific instance
the answer is no is it the result of
culmination of things going from uh
questionable to uh to to bad I think
that's more more likely the answer um we
know that our schools need this kind of
Aid we know that all of them are uh on
the precipice in terms of financial
viability this bill will provide needed
funds to them for providing services
that in many cases are already being
provided so it should help them
financially and again the bottom line um
it will uh ensure that the children are
being protected one incident in
particular two incidences parot Jewish
history is replete as we all know with
with one aggressor versus another we
need to have our children protected
there's no question about that now the
bill does read that it is for non-public
schools so I would understand that to
mean that it's not only for uh for
Jewish schools but for other religious
institutions as well and by the way we
all know that uh Catholic um populations
have been attacked by isis's as well as
number of other Christian institutions
absolutely so this is absolutely are are
you yes I was going to ask you so are
you seeing a uh a Grassroots support
from the um from the non-jewish
community as well the non-jewish public
schools as well and well I will tell you
that I've received numerous calls and
emails from Catholic schools throughout
the state um from leaders of the Muslim
Community who are equally as concerned
uh from Christian Schools as well um as
well as from a number of private schools
which are not religiously
based um I think everyone recognizes
that targets are any religious group it
doesn't matter which one it is really um
so the uh the support has been
significant support has been very
positive I'm hoping that in addition to
sending thank you notes to my legislator
of office that people would also find
out who their local legislators are and
to make sure to call them and to tell
them that this bill is important it's a
small sum of money $25 per child is is
is nothing but it could make all the
difference and it could be the motivator
to have our Yas as well as all of our
other religious schools throughout the
state uh take the necessary steps to
ensure protection of our children
speaking of the legislator's assembly
and can you tell us who some of your
colleagues in arms to promote the bill
might be people that have already told
you that they are you know ready willing
and able to uh to support this as it as
it comes to the floor well we've had
phans from any number of legislators and
you'll forgive me if I don't remember
yeah of course I just mean both I
presume both sides of the aisle Senator
singer certainly I'm sure is very
favorably disposed to the bill I'm sure
that is something new Ral and it's
something new ke both representing uh
Lakewood um I'm sure that they could all
benefit from calls from the from the
tore um and I'm sure that with any
number of calls if they're not already
firmly behind the bill they will be um
the bill is also being sponsored in the
Senate by Senator Beach of Cherry Hill
Cherry Hill has both a conservative as
well as an orthodox uh Yesa deso um is
very generous in kind of him to be
sponsoring the bill there um I think the
uh I think we need to recognize number
one that we are the
minority um as many of your listeners
might know I'm the first Orthodox member
of the legislature in the state's
history unfortunately NM there'll be
many many others to follow but we need
friends throughout the state we need to
make sure that our own representatives
are supportive uh we need to make sure
that they're aware of our concern um and
understand that this is an
extraordinarily important bill um and
could Well define whether we'll vote for
them or vote against them come November
they need to understand that this is
extraordinarily consequential to us well
speaking of being supportive assemblyman
um we understand that there has been a
um a call for people to actually come
out and show up at the at the State
House in show of that support
is that really important and why do you
think it is well I I believe such a call
came out from a
good I'm certainly welcome the call I
think it will be very instructive and
very helpful to the members of the
committee both Democrat as well as
Republican uh to see the outpouring of
support uh people speaking uh in the uh
session they will be allowed to uh to
speak on the bill um their remarks
should be brief the remark should be uh
laser focused uh but to let those
legislators know who are sitting in
judgment uh that the bill is extremely
important so I certainly welcome the
support of a good welcome the support of
of the Orthodox Union the Catholic
conference any and every group that will
help uh that will help our legislators
throughout the state be motivated to
support the bill um not only to vote for
the bill in committee but to vote for
the bill in session and also uh
specifically with our Republican
colleagues and friends for them to share
with the governor's office how important
it is that this bill be passed and
receive the governor's support
ultimately when it goes to his desk
you'll excuse my navity but it doesn't
seem like this smacks in any manner
shape or form of anything really
political I would think that there would
be total accordance from both sides of
the aisle do you anticipate any
opposition for this at
all I anticipate opposition in one area
specifically um we're talking as we
discussed parrots of somewhere between
3.7 to 4.1 or $4.2 million ah money that
it comes down to the money so often
right there's so many things that all of
us would love to do but we can't do
because we're restricted by the
financial consequence and that is
certainly the same with the state um the
state in so many areas has run out of
money or is running out of money uh
tremendous priorities of the state are
not being met in any number of areas
from transportation to higher education
to K through 12 Etc I would think it'd
be a lot more important than let's say
planting uh lies or or daffodils on the
Garden State Parkway I mean think well I
don't know how many lilies or daffodils
we're planting on the Garden State
Parkway but what ever planting is going
on is coming out of another budget um
that is paid for primarily from tolls
that could not go for something
else um so this is well would have to be
Transportation related to declare um the
bottom line is we need to understand
that the money is just not floating it's
somewhere we need to find it but in many
cases it means the 4 million give or
take that we're talking about for this
expenditure is 4 million less less than
something else is receiving right now so
for those members of the legislature who
treat their jobs seriously and most if
not all do um the financial consequences
one which they need to take into
consideration but as I tell people on so
many other items it's not your job to
figure out how to balance the budget but
it is your job to let your legislators
know to let your friends and neighbors
know so that they'll let their
legislators know that a bill like this
is extraordinarily important to the
community to the growth of the community
to the strengthening of the community
both today and in the future God willing
um so it's not for you to figure out
where that 4 million is coming from
that's my problem um but it is for us to
push this bill and so many others that
have direct consequence to the people I
guess in the words of uh the Great Rabbi
shiman Rafal h z who said that part of
our job is to plant seeds into the soil
of the future yet unborn and that future
certainly is comprised of the the future
of our our children who as as you have
said are our most precious commodity and
Our obligation to uh make to to protect
G I want to thank you very much we'll be
looking forward to uh seeing how the
introduction to the bill goes on
Thursday we'll be following that and
staying in touch with you I want to
thank you for your support for
everything that uh is important to not
only the Jewish Community but to every
constituent in the state of New Jersey
and somebody who um we feel uh is
representing our community as well as
the other constituencies of the state of
New Jersey and the Great County where
pic is located as well but we want to
thank you very much and wish you success
let Loa on Thursday and um thank you for
joining us here on Straight Talk America
on TLS you're very to me it's been a
very real pleasure thank you
parents all right ladies and gentlemen
this is parents B Straight Talk America
here on TLS that was assemblyman Gary
Sher we'll be back with more as that
bill progresses