Peretz Eichler interview with Rabbi Abenson

good day everybody this is parents bi close Straight Talk America news and as we look around the world we know that there's a lot of problems in education with raising our kids keeping our adults happy there are a lot of problems in the world that have to do that stem from the educational system the world at large and in particular and our community we know that there are rising problems problems that have reared their heads and that a lot of times have been ignored but you cannot ignore the consequences of these problems as evidenced by an article last week that appeared on the scoop in which a mother responded by talking about the the horrendous death of one of her children which she did not in any small way diminish the responsibility of what took place during the education of her youngster and the inability of the system to deal with his own individual needs and to break out of the mold so that he would be able to get the education that he needed and then when he didn't it just led to problems which mushroomed and then manifest themselves through an overdose now you can't blame a an educational system for a child taking overdose but we can blame the system that ignores the scope and breadth of the various needs of individuals and not trying to make a child fit the mold if it doesn't work and look for an alternative system we try to make a child rather than break the child and that problem has been addressed by educators worldwide but in particular there is an educational consultant in Montreal his name is rabbi david Abramson and he himself has now been a consultant to many to minions educational institutions into parents and individuals who realize that something has to be done that you have to deal with the problem first of all acknowledge that there's a problem and then address the problem by applying real-world solutions Robinson is a respected educator around the world and has recently really been publicized because of the wonderful work that he's doing and addressing the problem head-on and providing solutions Robinson thank you very much for joining us well let me ask you out of the starting gate what is it that prompted you to start taking on these issues that that you felt that not enough was being done first of all let's let's define the issue what do you see the core problems facing us in the in the Jewish world at large in terms of how we're educating our kids and can we say that the system at large is not really meeting up to what what it needs to do can we say that in some degree that it is failing as much as it is succeeding I would like to say that the link or which you really have to work on is it might surprise people who are listening I like to be I'll go to the extreme it's not the internet it's really the aleph bais the other phase unfortunately is not being addressed we really should make an ass-kisser to bring back the traditional way of teaching Ella based what do you mean a tradition whoa what do you mean by the tradition wave the Alpha is how is the our phase in in other than metaphorical terms you're saying talking about the literal way that the holidays being taught that's a pretty powerful statement can you tell me what you mean by that comets Alice all full stop we don't need to confuse the children make a lot base complicated it's in some cases but I'm dealing with children even students she's going over the other face with them they look at the this one boy was fing out of bays and he turns it turned his face to his cuffs on his hands arm so we're looking at that for because my Maura told me remember the cuffs you look at your arm you see so what's happening with the boys wheat we put a lot of emphasis of abstract information sonic sounds etc and all this type of things so it confuses a child she doesn't get a strong basis for the olive base that's one thing and the other thing is a lot of institutions the literacy institutions like having confiserie been teaching Nala pays for the warrant etc that's great but they really have to check before they bring them in if they know how to pronounce the letters correctly and many many cases well always ashkenazi boys finish the boys have next up ever because the rebane were teaching them their way but really sent to be the other way so this has to be addressed because if the homeless children not enjoying the learning is the fact is that they don't get the clarity the simplicity other Alice based clear the mind of a young age well then that's certainly a vitally important but how does that then develop into into other problems which caused even more complicated set of issues ah so what happens with the boys so children or girls do not receive the proper foundation of the holidays and which happens many times around the world they go to the next stage before they know the other base that taught the valves we produce right but they don't know the letters probably to register the valves puppets put them both together and then before they even a lot of those probably start reading and then the problem of that is they start reading in syllables but they can't read probably has done the letters properly and even if they do know the letters they don't know it well enough to be able to put the letters together and then timely start reading they start reading in a silver format opposed to whole word reading and if we don't build up a strategy for vocab we bank in their mind to be able to translate so the time when it comes to nine or ten could be reading syllables without translation skills and therefore they don't really understand the text for the reading compounding well how would you propose the changes i mean you're talking about a revolutionary upheaval within within the school system so where are you storing only thing to go back how it used to be if we can only put this back in to the system we don't need extra schools we have to train the teachers properly how to teach the other phase in a clear concise manner and that will solve most problems in the reading ok so you talking about reading now are you already instituting this idea are you making any headway and getting into any major issues and running around the country around the world that's a very good question because the program is very very powerful I have to tread very carefully in my program because most schools as you know all schools are doing great and therefore if they feel if somebody comes in to tell them to upgrade the actual olive based system in the school that shows incompetents on the wider spectrum of the school which is very hard sometimes to get in into the school because of that but that's why I mention the beginning with the robot and have to get together and make it tremendous Asifa to get the other page we have to work on the other face to make sure the kids no dollar basis for legal even further they can't teach you one cannot teach any vowels anything till the boys know the other base slowly now what I mean my flu of me it doesn't mean that it takes in a minute Attila to say the other base they have to be fluent seconds be able to the elevation without any hesitation it should become effortless and I guarantee you for my years of my track record it because many many years if you work on this a lot of product a simple a lot of problem children later on in life who decreased drastically that would include medication everything you name what we do psychologists psychiatrists and all the boys go to etc what you won't need any of that special need to cut down the money the financial aspect of the school year are sponsoring Laden holiday today nowadays a lot of children go to remediation I'll be cut down drastically the children will be able to talk properly dollar space now we're not discussing it at the mall that's one aspect well we're not discussing all the teachers clear or not that's another aspect but this is one aspect we need to be addressed have you seen in your personal experience the program which you're putting forth have you implemented it in any degree either on an individual or institutional basis where you've been able to measure track this type of success I presume that if you're talking about it that this is not purely theoretical or experimental that you've taken your idea now which I'm sure has been validated by by proper tour authorities but but have you actually implemented it in any manner shape or form with other individuals or within the school system yeah so if you my track record in phenomenal if you check on my website share atomic calm and you see a lot of there's a number of referrals there again an engine to about the school system right the school system it is very difficult for institutions to admit they have issues with with the system that's the biggest issue we have in the school system and therefore a lot of what I do i do on a private basis not relating to the school / safe schools were interested I go into an a private basis but it's very it's very dimension to dimension just before the school's happens that's why I mention see that we should really have to rub on them on this like we have with internet the schools will do anything too much with internet so the bottom got together yeah now we have to work on instance all the schools got together and and put these ideas into school not not not once a lot of interest in the school or house or whatever etc we have the Robottom on our generation really have to get together and to emphasize the importance the other space the Vilna gone would stand up for his rebbe who taught in the other place as the saying goes not another a bottom only the rebbe who taught him the other day she said because he said if I if I will have to really taught me problem i'll update the wouldn't be where I am today so this has to get dressed there certainly it does but be going beyond the ala phase which is the foundation of everything you also talked about a concept called the Box child how we kind of box our children into a certain category can you describe that to me what what you mean by a box child in that philosophy of education and what needs to be done counselor i titled the box art which went viral in the lake would scoop it around the world this is a major issue which we have in our system today and that it's a shamanic says a padharo a child has the part of course his ability Nora I'll be dark and culture deserted their methodology right unfortunately because the goddess etc we in our school system unfortunately have taken a lot of non-jewish philosophy in teaching hebrew subjects and and that's a big problem because it's it's not a similar time going teach third children and we teach orchard which is completely different but no and in the glacial world they have they only look at the top boys who get the best marks how'd you pass any exam I bet other going work you do the same thing the childhood fear the hunter sent it is not that hundred percent child but she only is not worth anything which is not true in juniors and every child has potential so we have to read structure on the thought process and teaching our children we have before we have to go back to the mysterious of how to teach RB de hoy not the IRB dark m which would create a much better environment for our children which I did mention in my in my article that if I believe if Alicia Feinstein mushy Shapiro religious Angela Bob McClure will be our generation I believe they will be in the rehab today because it'll brilliant kids brilliant minds and he was all privately they couldn't deal with him in a classroom setting and I know somebody in particularly a number of people come to me over the years I Cara the ones in which community is there's a boy who the genius like them he's 14 years old no chef and he's medicated because he can't interest a camp into the box and therefore this boy needs to be stretched more and that's the problem we have we have directly we have to really consider we're still like you from the unfold from the Holocaust we lost a lot of tradition of teaching from the Holocaust which is in my previous articles I read I bro I wrote about that too so what would you like to see done at this juncture in terms of both individuals and families people that might be listening to this to be able to remedy the problem at least within the context of their own family if you're not going to be able to start the revolution all over the place in institutions maybe you have to start at grassroots when you're certainly getting a response from people on a grassroots level well what do you think parents who are running into this problem in countering and now and perhaps being frustrated by not being able to have the the school respond on the weather like what should a parent who finds himself in that type of quandary do that's a very good question what should they do well really should try the very best to find out if the child's happy in school if it's not happening school right we have to find out what reasons why is not happy in school most times I found while the children not have been school because the skills are lacking right there for the update we have to adjust that if they want they can come to us and we can rearrange things for the top of the mountain certain aspects in and up and study and get a child back on the track right but really what they it's really going to view the parents if they want to make a revolution in this sense they have to get together and the Gaza mention to have two meses many times over we have to make it an a/c far to the importance of this and the schools have to get together to appreciate this with but we have to do it with the robot we can't do without devoin and also the people is fun the schools without that it's not going to work in a large scale and on a private scale it can be done well we'll be looking forward to hearing about more how this is going to start taking shape and taking place and not even getting a large-scale reaction from people as evidence for we saw on the scoop last week and I'm sure you getting more of it we'd like to hear more about it people would like to get more information contact you can you give us your contact information Robinson yes sorry yeah so my website is Charlotte omelet calm my email is Ableton dot crea que are iah gmail com and if they would like to contact me my phone numbers free phone number is 1 877 Anton word that's four to eight to five six eight all right rabbi dovid edmondson thank you very much for joining us here on the lake with schoolin straight talk america we hope that you'll have a lot of huts locker much success in helping as many children families as possible that will fortify the next door by getting the proper education the foundations the olive face as you say both literally and figuratively thanks very much for joining us Thank You Bobby