Part 3 Why Judaism Rejects Jesus as the Messiah with Rabbi Tovia Singer

[Music] before we began the program young men here walked over to me and asked me about the premillennial dispensationalist church what does that mean so as it turns out the Christian religion is by far the most highly variegated religion in the world we often speak about how how cruel the the language that was used by the Church Fathers regarding the Jews I frequently point to the things that Reformers had expressed about the Jewish people the church fathers had nothing to say positively about the Jews who if you went online and just you can I paid probably $800 for it 30 years ago where you had to actually buy all the works of the Church Fathers and now it's you know you can download it but now you can just go into the writings of the church fathers whether it's I seen Anthony Sancho's father's a post and just look up the word Jew like it's not like one favourable thing there it's all just horrible it's a nightmare it explains how rational people who would otherwise be completely more on their lives would have this view of the Jewish people that is nothing short of it's utterly demonic Luther was completely rational if I had been exposed to that kind of literature all my life I would hate me too but there's one part I didn't mention yet that as it turns out the church fathers had even nastier things to say about fellow Christians as it turns out in a different way with a different type of twist the Church Fathers and reformers said things about other people who we would call Christians that were absolutely outrageous and they generally did not regard them as real Christians today if you said that Mormons are Christians in the presence of an evangelical Christian immediately you'd be correct and be told they are not real Christians there are many Protestants who firmly believe that you were a member of the largest denomination in the Christian religion the Roman Catholic Church so you're not a real Christian it's not just you're not a real Christian the Catholic Church is the seat of the of Satan himself the Pope is the of Babylon as expressed in the book of Revelation some of the differences seem to be trivial but to them it's fundamental faith there's no like we have like a different mini or a different you know this epitome of that but it's all within orthodoxy you know where the eating kid Neos on Pesach or not it's not that it's about who Jesus is and how he emerged and what what person in the in the in the triune Godhead who did he emerge from the emerge from the father from the Holy Spirit people kill each other over that does the Pope have ecumenical authority or not 30 years in war and eight million people dead over that one from 1618 to 1648 Germany was decimated / that you know it was not a bad that's issue someone asked about premillennial dispensationalists so until the 19th century all Christian denominations believed that while at one point in history the Jewish people were the chosen people and God had bestowed unique blessings upon them and they were favored in God's eyes and they were blessed by the Almighty and they will give in the land of Israel but because they had committed the unspeakable crime of deicide of killing God the promises that were originally given to the Jewish people that would convey to the children of Israel was removed and the church was the new Israel the church had replaced the Jewish people it's also this is also for to his covenant theology very popular replacement theology Christians believe this across the board in Augustine's let's say his most important work the City of God which essentially is a defense of Christianity with the charge of if Rome becomes Christian and then it's destroyed in 410 why that very important work in the Western Church in the Latin Church spends a lot of time talking about the fact that the Jews are now rejected by God and there is no hope for them there's no salvation for them outside the cross but as a nation they have lost that covenant now dialing forward to about the Year 1800 a young men John Nelson Darby comes up with a new idea this is impossible God could never destroy the Covenant that he had made with the Jewish people God could never have abrogated it the reason is is should be fairly obvious and that is Tanakh explicitly says that the Covenant that I've made with the children of Israel can never be undone and what I say Tanakh says that explicitly I'm not describing the happy chapters of Genesis 15 16 17 we have the greatest man possibly you ever lived in conversation with the God O God Almighty and promises manifold promises about his descendants are conveyed to him and then it goes on to Isaac and to Jacob I'm not describing those chapters if we look at the worst of times leviticus 20:6 the title huh the blessing and the curse the chapter ends what God says despite your sins because of my mercy I will never allow the children of Israel to be destroyed they will always be a remnant that will be left over lest I violate the promise that I made with you for father the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob Jeremiah points at the celestial bodies Jeremiah chapter 31 so says the Lord who created the Sun and the Sun to illuminate the day the stars in the moon the night if these laws shall pass before me if the foundations of the earth can be measured so will I cast off the seed of Jacob that's only physical for me a nation before me it cannot happen Darby who also had a great interest in Hebrew and so on he concludes that this is a huge mistake and that in fact the God's covenant with the children of Israel has never been abrogated it cannot be abrogated and there are in fact two covenants in the world God has a covenant with a spiritual Israel the church and a second covenant with a physical Israel and it can never be undone moreover the Land of Israel belongs to one people that's the nation of Israel no other and it came to the United States with a that message Cyrus Scofield a lawmaker from Kansas wrote a very important cut to this day a very important commentary on the Bible called the Scofield Bible it was published in the early 20th century by World War two I believe it's sold in the order of somewhere about four million copies that's staggering this idea that God is always working through the Jewish people whose vital and spread throughout the United States like wildfire people preachers like moody after who may a Bible College is named and others just spread this message and it was received very very well and a footnote here premillennial dispensationalism means a lot more what I've described but that's the only part that's germane to this evening's presentation that view also holds that throughout history there have bit God has used different dispensations in his salvation plan with mankind dispensation in this case means a an economy itself a salvific economy Christians argue really argue over how many they were but again that's really that's not germane to this evening's presentation what you do want to know is that today it is of these evangelical Christians who belong to the dispensationalists Church whether it's charismatic or Baptists these are the people who are deeply committed to converting each and every one of you to the church they have a great love for Israel when they say they love Israel they're not making that up they're very happy to use that love for Israel to get you to figure out that they're different than all the other questions you know about and they also believe that the Jew has to be brought to the cross and without the cross the Jew is damned has no salvation moreover they believe based on a passage in Matthew 23 the chapter which begins with the Pharisees and scribes sit in the seat of Moses whatever they bid you you must do whoever wrote this book he's a highly literate Christian and he was using the language of theater theater means live performance this may seem strange to you but theater is a is an art that was invented in the city-state of Athens 2,500 years ago Chinese have theater but it's all from Greece Jews feeder was completely puzzle was come as you could imagine the idea a broad wave was not something that hazael were interested in this was utterly Greek utterly antithetical to anything Jewish and the language of Matthew 23 the even the words like you hypocrites and vipers of the the word hypocrite to Greek word will anyone know what the word hypocrite means milt has no negative connotation convention just changed the word hypocrite simply means a play actor Jews did not use that kind of language that's the language of Broadway that's the language of the theatre the greco-roman theatre the word theatre another Greek word means what to see the language of whitewashing although that's all theatrical language whoever wrote wrote these Gospels firmly ensconced in Broadway in Biblical Hebrew we don't even have a word for hypocrite there's no straight word for it you use a few words or you can use a a word that became it but that we don't have that that's utterly Greek and that's the language being conveyed the chapter wrapped itself up with these words Jesus we are told is speaking to a Jewish audience and he says I will not return unless you say blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord because Jesus was speaking to a Jewish audience the church came to understand that statements mean the following that Jesus cannot make a second coming unless the Jewish people in mass accept the cross who converted to Christianity and throughout history the church has always placed an emphasis for a number of reasons this is not the only one to make sure that the Jews accept the cross so that Jesus could make a second coming you ladies and gentlemen holding up the show eschatological role in triggering the second coming of Jesus and that's why the Messianic movement as it's iteration as you see it today was developed shortly after the 67 war not long after you slain was liberated by the Israeli army in June of 1967 the Messianic movement can be fully developed at the early 70s Jews for Jesus incorporates itself in February in 1973 they believed Jesus second comings imminent Jerusalem as the hands of the Jews Christ has to come again and Yuet to come to the cross it's really that simple as far as they're concerned if you believe in Jesus you are saved and if you don't believe in him you are going to hell there is no salvation outside the cross if you're not covered in the blood you are spiritually lost you're dead you could try with all your Commandments and putting on your phylacteries every day and do your Sabbath thing but you know one can keep the Lord no one can if you could you wouldn't need Christ read Romans chapter three Romans is the constitution of the New Testament there is no salvation outside of that cross oh yes the law came through Moses but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ the law is just a mirror just to look into it to see how dirty your face is then you know that you're convicted you're a sinner it's a taskmaster then the chases you to the cross to cavalry are you willing to accept Christ in your life today if what I'm saying seems foreign to you then you have lived in a very isolated world this is standard fare this is not some extreme Appalachian steak handling denomination there's a standard in fact the Roman Catholic Church very much into ever all of this sort of things they become so liberal in recent years particularly since Vatican 2 catholics just not that from anymore so they're not into that or then also not into having 11 children it just it all changed the church's position is that if you don't accept Jesus as your Savior Lois you're going to hell the fact as far as God is concerned that's all that matters you can be a good person but if you don't accept Jesus in your life you're gonna go to hell forever in the late 1950s Israeli Mossad agents we're looking for the Most Wanted Nazi criminals and by accident stumbled upon the architect of the final solution in Argentina sheer accident this kid was dating someone else and the word got out his name anybody had of actually knew much she was a very he was captured and brought to Eretz a swirl to stand trial for crimes against humanity it was a spectacular event he was found guilty of these crimes the prosecutor in the case anybody somebody said housing very good Gideon Hausner is the very important work justice in Jerusalem really good reading a few days before he's executed I ask many requests a Dutch confessor and although the the condition the millions that he murdered were not afforded a rabbi to sit in front of him to say V Dewey State of Israel obliged just two days before he's executed he is said to have accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior in Christian theology if his conversion was sincere when Icahn was hung executed he immediately went to heaven and the millions that he murdered after all they didn't believe in Jesus they went to hell now that but I just shared with you has to be one of the most disturbing anecdotes that I can possibly convey it very well conveys to you in a rarefied form of how clear this theology is there is no salvation outside of the cross without the cross you're lost mark 16:16 if you believe within you're baptized you save if you believe it's not your damned second Thessalonians chapter 1 verse 8 describes an eternal lake of fire they'll consume those who don't accept Jesus as the Lord to save it's really that clear there are no there are no liberal Christians in the New Testament ok there's no Hillary Clinton like high church Episcopalians who are writing in the New Testament very conservative this is what's being here there's no liberals in there I see that for a reason because liberal Christians don't hold to that so naturally I don't know about you but we all want to do the right thing I don't want to go to Al we spend a lot more time being dead than alive you want to get that part of your career right so we have to ask a very simple question throughout the entire corpus of the Jewish Scriptures on all of Tanakh I mean this is the most important Mitzvah evita if you eat a cockroach you violate a handful of negative Commandments if you cross a dress there are a few assumed associated with that if you hurt a convert you really have a big problem on your hands now you have 26 violations in entirety so Christian is seeing eating cockroaches we have a quite a few passages throughout to knock describing them so I want to ask this question if this is God's entire salvation program it rests on this point how many times throughout the entire corpus of Tanakh the Hebrew Scriptures faith it's fairly large that you know the Jewish scripture is about twenty three and a half thousand passages it's enormous in contrast the New Testaments small it's like seven thousand verses this is the question that every Christian would agree is central throughout the entire corpus of the Jewish Scriptures how many times do we find them in the mitzvot that go something like this when Messiah comes when the Messiah comes well you don't wanna go to hell I don't want to go to hell how many times does it say somewhere that when Messiah comes make sure that you accept him and you don't reject him if after all everything comes down to them before you reach for the answer on that question why would every Christian agree that it is axiomatic that we would only look at the Jewish Scriptures for the answer to the question anyone tell me why would it that's it means it's in God's view Christianity holds that everything comes down to if you believe in Jesus you're saved and if you don't believe in him you damned and it's the same God it's not like a different deity north of the Old Testament there was a heresy that believed that they call heresy the márcia Knights from the second century a fairly successful heresy of the church actually believe that it's wholly incompatible there's no way the god of the Old Testament could be the author of the god of the New Testament they were just couldn't be and they were right it was a very popular era see people like Tertullian became famous as a result of fighting that heresy which had seized Rome they utterly incompatible even Christians would agree that the only place to look for this is the Jewish problem why is it only the Jewish Scriptures that could be the source of this sort of information right right right so what's that right brilliant same essential thing and that is the the Christian Bible is quoting from the Jewish Bible a lot he mentioned Matthew there are 11 fulfillment citations alone more than 200 quotes from tonight in 2nd Timothy 3:16 when it says all Scripture is useful for teaching there the only scripture that existed was the Jewish Scriptures let me say this in a way that's not politically correct sometimes when you want the truth yes may not be politically correct right something abyss bothers you something hurts you something slurps you whatever you go to the doctor right something's bothering you're not feeling wrong so a doctor will ask you to do things that if anyone else would ask you you would call the police immediately I will allow ourselves to be humiliated by such a thing we people lay down line I want the doctor state with the table examining table they have a with the paper down there right like a deli paper you feel like a pastrami sandwich as a coast Lord should be a kugel over there and then you pay him to knock at the end why why do we do that whatever sure whatever you want if something is bothering us is something possible Khalil is not right we just want to make sure that we have a good doctor who's able to assess the problem and diagnose didn't figure out exactly what needs to be done and hopefully the mouse would just take this one white bill once in your life and you're fine we hope that's what happens but we just wanted to get it right no matter what happened just figure it out back so I can continue on with my life there's there were certain axioms and postulates that all Christians would agree to one of them is the following the Christian Bible cannot be true and the Jewish Bible false that is impossible I want to say that again all Christians would agree that the Christian Bible cannot be true and the Jewish Bible false however the Jewish Bible could be true and the Christian Bible could be completely false okay so with Judaism and Christianity I'm using these words Judaism and Christianity and probably sound that's good let's just use simple terms even though in the Christian Bible that would not be the conventional terms Christians we didn't refer to themselves as Christians in the Christian Bible we have three reference to Christians in the New Testament none of them are expressed by Christians but that's just convention Methodists didn't call themselves that other people didn't they adopted the name and Quakers was not a neighbor they adopted others didn't they adopted sure we'll go with that and it was fine and we didn't come up with the word Orthodox for Judaism a German guy did and we said fine we'll go with that so we're using conventional simple language so there's there's nothing nothing ambiguous here so therefore we would only look in the Jewish Scriptures for the answer to that critical question how are we supposed to live our lives what does God want for us how many times throughout the entire Tanakh throughout 24 39 books depending on how you cut them do we have this warning look when Messiah comes make sure that you accept him and you don't reject him because that would be the most important thing better get that one right how many times do we find that in tonight zero doesn't exist not even once there's not one place in tonight where it says that when the Messiah comes make sure you accept him and you don't reject him even in the passages that Christians claim are referring to Jesus in the Jewish Scriptures none of them say that according to them in the most famous Isaiah 50 feet Daniel all the stand fair stuff according to them it doesn't say there that if you believe in Jesus you're saved and if you don't you're lost you don't have that what I'd like to do for a moment is we from the moment I got up here I've been unambiguously talking about the Christian religion it's history church and doctrines but if we couldn't sort of put that a set that aside we tagged it Christianity needs Judaism we don't need Christianity why in fact doesn't there say in some passage in Tanakh that when the Messiah comes it would be a very good thing to accept him and it would be a very bad idea to reject him because I would think would really be a nightmare if you reject them don't we have a passage in tonight that wouldn't talk about Messiah doesn't it say that look when he comes it's really important not to reject him do you think that's that's not important we have very famously many passages has warned us about accepting the words of an avi MS of a true prophet I'm thinking about Deuteronomy 18 verse 18 and 19 are you where it says if he fulfills the standards set forth both in Deuteronomy 13 and 18 he doesn't change the message and he can do miracles you must follow him and if you don't are required of you the precedent is there why doesn't it say anywhere in the Jewish Scriptures according to us that when Messiah comes make sure that you accept him and you don't reject him yes Ta'ala right the reason very good is because that is the central feature of the Messianic age when he comes everyone will know the world will know because the knowledge of God will cover the world as the water cover the sea Isaiah chapter 11 verse 9 all the nations will go back to a period before the Tower of Babel and rather they have multiple speeches multiple language they will all speak in one cure speech say Fania Zephaniah chapter 3 verse 9 and Jeremiah tells us that in those days no one is gonna have to teach his neighbor about God for they will all know him from the least of them to the grace declares Lord the universal knowledge of God is the central event that will occur when Messiah comes and the role of the Messiah is to be the good Lord or to be the receiver to be the nothing we've meaning to be the heir to the throne of King David and to give her heart to the world to rebuke the nation's and to get them to get the nation's to do Tuva so that head of design will come forth the law in fact throughout tonight the Messiah is described it's all it said about him that the spirit of our Shem will rest upon him and he will judge among the nations among his people he won't judge like everybody else were the side of his eyes but only the Kaurava will put on him a roof the hell BL didn't see what is right and what's wrong and the world will change the way that behave as a result of ISM in fact there's nothing about him doing miracles I am NOT suggesting that Michelle will not do miracles perhaps he will there's not one word about Antonov this above the right does eternity Testament because although Christians and Jews we're using the same words Messiah Messiah we mean something completely different and that's what's very dangerous because we you both used the word Messiah we think Oh Christian thinking can we think he hasn't come yet is just questioning it's totally different in the Christian Bible Jesus is a miracle worker he's healing in Luke chapter 4 verse 16 17 18 we are told that Jesus goes into a synagogue on Shabbos in Nazareth he's called up to read the half-term Isaiah chapter 61 preaching the good news for the world to release those that are held captive and then Luke is in the words to give sight to the blind it isn't in the original text of Isaiah 61 interpolates a magic man because it's very striking that there's nothing about him doing magic there's nothing about him pick a card it in John not only is he doing miracles all over the place but he's saying from these miracles you can know Jesus in the New Testament is something that enters you by eating his body and drinking his blood if that bothers you that's not an outlier theology that appears in the earliest Christian writings that survived first Corinthians chapter 11 24 through 26 tells us about this supper take the bread this is the body of Christ Christ will then dwell in you then Christ will be you will be in Christ Matthew 26 mark 14 Luke 22 John 6 52 through 56 take this bread this is my body eat it take this wine drink of this is my blood is be given for you that's ritual cannibalism if it said anywhere in tonight that we're supposed to eat the body and drink the blood of Messiah I'd be in church right now and so would you we're not crazy these ideas are so odious is so antithetical to anything found tonight we're eating the body of a human being a dream his blood is opposed by the prophets of Israel that's why this term in Christ I know people here term in Christ he's at least Christ dwells in you our union Christ that phrase appears in the Christian Bible seventy six times it never appears in Tanakh almost all of them is Paul Paul is the author of this he introduces this Greek idea the the ritual cannibalism of course sounds hideous at first grab I want you to sort of would take a look at it for a moment a little bit closer the the ritual cannibalism there's something behind it and the idea is in fact I I spent five years in Indonesia on on its largest island I'm talking geographically not population wise a Papua huge place like like an Alaska deal it's just huge not a huge population but humongous but there are a lot of old tribes up in the mountains and they practiced cannibalism there I ain't myself why are they doing that because they're hungry and they were looking for Epis the site of Grandma I mean what what is what is happening so it's theological the belief about ritual cannibalism is listen carefully if I eat the body of the man I will then acquire his powers Christ dwells inside of you if you eat his body and drink his blood well what I want to do is sort of distill this for you but also bring it down bring down the vine because at first glance I could see that you're wincing like this is horrible but I wanted to show you that there's a method to it the method is that Christ Wells inside of you are you in Christ I am you know what does that meaning there's nothing there's there's nothing remotely resembling that and there's just nothing people frequently think that the problem we have with the Christian Bible is that it just doesn't match tonight if I need cash so I have a checkbook and I just need a couple thousand shekels so are you you know tomorrow go to Bank Leumi you write a check tears I haven't done this by presume that's how it works in America that definitely had worked you needed cash you took a check you wrote it to yourself and you showed your aidid newsy but then the teller would do something she would go back to your signature card that you signed when you first open the account and looked at the signature that's on the check now and compared to the sanctuary and if they don't match so throw you out the door we're not talking about that these ideas are odious or opposed by the Jewish because no one could die for anyone else with spins Ezekiel chapter 18 and I share my coffee borhu the Holy One blessed be his name says is it my desire at all to punish the wicked is it not rather than return from a sinful ways that he may live we hear these words in Christ Christ dwells in you take in his body drink his blood Christ will then dwell in you and you will then be able to duplicate the miracles as we see at the end of the Gospels and in the book of Acts and what we find tonight who is the Messiah the good Lord or the giant of the generation the one who inspires the nation's to do true though then not see dovid he's called Ezekiel 37 24 and 25 and as a result of his a hostile call you're all be keeping the mitzvahs the nation's will put away their swords in their spears and turn into plowshares and pruning hooks Lisa Gallo hello Yuma duodenal confirmation will not lift up sword against nation neither will they learn of war any more of one last point I'm going to take your questions Maimonides the Rambam of blessed memory in his magnum opus 214 volume work Mishnah torah yatta kazakh on all of jewish law in the section it's called the laws of kings and their wars the very end addresses Christianity and what its purpose is because as it turns out very striking that prior to the destruction the Second Temple the the religions that occupy the Levant and Beyond were very dissimilar to Judaism which is very different than us and as it turns out the religions that would follow the destruction the Second Temple when not only similar to Judaism but built their foundation on Judaism but they held that because of a certain Savior a prophet demigod or whatever there's been some changes and that is that yes there's a basic concept of one God but now we we have a savior that tells you if you don't have to keep the commandments anymore but at one time you did why is that why does that happen after the destruction of the second temple one might think of something like event like this should have been could have happened during the days of Solomon could have too bad should have could have happen in days of Ischia oh what a great king that was but it didn't it happened only if the destruction of the second temple once the second temple was destroyed the potential for Messiah was launched was triggered it can now happen we are told well to knock that when Michelle comes the nations will immediately recognize their error and the ten of them will turn to a single Jew and say take us with you now we've heard God is with you when Gentiles will come to you and say surely we've inherited lies in vanity where there's no truth how could a man make them to himself God's when the entire Jeremih 16 1920 famous passages with the game with the nations of the world go I realized you're right and now I get it all that could only happen if the religions that filled the world with Judy's and base religions with a default baseline was Judaism every Christian would concede if pressed if you're wrong about Jesus if Jesus is not the Messiah if Christian teachings are wrong who then has the truth it would default to the Jewish people and therefore when Messiah comes over who would have believed our report and look to whom the are middle or has been revealed one thing the nations could not have and that Shabbos Shabbos were told in Exodus 31 his Baney who vain bnei yisrael Shabbos only to Nicosia Buerkle and closer moves Christianity to Sunday Islam to Friday Shabbos is set aside just for the children of Israel how foolish is the Jew you have Shabbos and you open up a newspaper full this Jew how could he where who changes the foundation of the world it's the reason why Christianity should move to Sunday there's the reason but that's not a real reason it's almost amazingly stupid because they know it's Saturday you know it says oh see we all moan forever and ever I changed it why because God was setting aside the Shabbos just for you the clock is wrong well you're married to see the coming of the true worship I'm Harry Manning quickly and our time thank you for having me [Music]