PART 2: Rabbi Shais Taub and SoulWords 2021 Livestream Program

Hello everybody welcome welcome back to Soul wordss charity campaign live stream how you doing Rabbi just you know this is a fundraiser so as much as I try to pretend I'm just uh hanging out having a casual conversation with my good friend uh Kim K friend and neighbor con um we're fundraising so I was just a second ago getting a very oh Ty's here tyel we just got do I want a slurpie it wouldn't be very Rabbi like and uh the diet coke is barely Rabbi like in fact I got a comment today that I should keep the diet coke off the table are we wanting on such a thin budget that slurpers is the best we can do for a phone team usually they bring in like izes and like I think they're getting real food uh momentarily so uh I have an incredible offline donation that just came in fact oh you know about it Karen KES okay so I'm going to tell you right now in front of everybody uh KES which is a uh that theb started in honor of in memory of theka has just donated ,000 let me read the donation I mean the dedication um for all the many women and girls you help educate and Inspire in the ways of because it's for the rabbits and it's a an organization that does supports causes that are befitting the spirit of the life of theka so $1,000 from karish just came in and uh oh make sure to add it to the um the podcast team the Inside Out podcast the uh Rifka krinsky and ID shottenstein team $1 thousand thank you Ty amazing wow thank you so that's uh and again you work in many different communities and uh chapters yeah yeah and you've been I've been seeing more stuff come out of um B Rifka high school and like yeah yes I invited someone later to to tell us more about that of the B RIS stuff someone via Zoom I'm not sure exactly time butting yeah yeah and we have some other Zoom guests lined up and lots of other hype and I want to cover some Basics on the campaign did you get any sleep I got some sleep B I got a little sleep last night I have an idea people should know after the campaign finished I mean not the C the campaign's still going on but after the live stream finished so um I still had to finish rambam because even when you're doing a campaign got to finish rum so I had to finish I'm a witness cuz I thought I left my phone here thought he left his phone came back came back and he saw was so anyways go ahead yes K I have an idea yes what's your idea um you were pretty worked up before we we started you got like a thousand calls going on a lot of and I came late relatively and like you know just life could you maybe give us a demonstration of a little I I know I didn't give you any I just thought of it now just a little demonstration there is a lot of pent up anxiety over the last almost two years we're going at yeah um I mean life in general but as if it didn't already have it there like just maybe a little breathing exercise yeah yeah by the way people ask me like uh you know you're deflecting from this no no I'm gonna answer people ask me about like do do it did it did I ever like learn how to breathe like I know there's like breathing coaches and that kind of stuff I never did that but I figured out by trial and error what works for me and um you just breathe in through the nose why I think it's cleaner and until I feel my lungs I can actually feel them stretching and then I hold it maybe a second I don't really think all this stuff when I do it and then I let it out and sort of like cleansing relaxing yeah yeah usually I I I breathe um meaning obviously there's unconscious obviously if I'm alive but like I remember to do any active full breath at the point that I am already really really needing it yeah and um and that's and that's fine but yeah I realized like just how big a deal that is breathing and how about just like one conscious breathing exercise like some intentional breathing exercise like are you feeling any stress no I was but after that last deep breath I think it's all gone it's amazing how simple sometimes it could be yeah it's all good so that's we to a tab uh voice note even if it's like 14 seconds you'll get at least one or two you know what I think we have a clip where you do a few of those the huffing and the puffing I don't know I'm not going to get messy with that all right let's cover there's some really nice donations you're at where are we like at 80% of the way I think we're at 80% but we got to get all the way home and uh you got to bring at home and we have a nice show coming up we have a lot a lot of nice guests and music coming soon and anyway that is all to the credit of Kim K who is not just the what you calling it last night the the the more you do of that the more of a imposter syndrome hangover I have okay for it no problem okay all right Kim did nothing he just rolled in here and he's winging it as he goes no no no no no no no no no I go ahead um okay so you know what I want to do I want to remind everybody that we are in addition to you donating to a very very important cause and all the reasons that you uh appreciate swards and Robbie tab we're also giving away some gifts for a donation of 30 of $360 which is effectively 720 or effectively 720 or you could do it as $30 see I remember last night last night we had a whole thing and was you know what let them do the math or you can do no but I got the math down what do you think I thought about today I have the math down $360 is effectively $72 20 you can do that as a one time $360 charge or you can do $30 recurring as a as a monthly charge and then you get in at the first tier of gifts which is this part I don't remember the beautiful four cups ha the recovery hagada that uh you're whoever donates will be getting the very very first copies of is coming out in a few months you'll have it certainly with before PES and we showed some of the slides and we spoke to nman whose Mastermind behind the project yeah and that's if you do $360 effectively 720 and you can do that by doing one time 360 or you could do recurring 30 a month okay and then I remember before I forget the number the other price point is if you do uh 540 so we're doing multiples of Kai if you do 540 which is effectively 1,080 you could either do it as a 1 time 540 or if you do I think this is right right $45 a month or more recurring I did have those numbers down just saying 45 yeah if you do $45 a month yeah that's 540 and then you get in at the at the next tier which is which gets you I don't remember which gets you this beautiful 7-Eleven kashin Soul words yamaka can we see this it looks like a 7-Eleven logo but it's not because instead of 11 it says so it says all seven they're precious Seventh Generation can I just take this one and all right yeah you could yes I'll let we don't have to put it into the okay looks good on you yeah it matches the jacket thank you okay um we also have some other gifts but we're going to get to those later I may yeah um you put out a survey uh about two weeks ago and there was some great results we read a few of them last night but I wanted to go into um a few of them that I chose um sham might please cue testimonials all right I'm messaging you and saying it at the same time and I would like to yeah we'll put a few on the screen and just you know as a reminder of the vital work that you do and uh things cost money you know we had a beautiful campaign last year and today we are sitting in the studio which we built with the campaign money so you see see the fruits of your labor yeah and uh I mean you're getting a glimpse into it but this means that you'll be able to be Distributing Rich content all over the world to people who benefit it benefit from it in so many different ways and this is just a sample of some of those tyel what's it you yeah it's a different embed link from yesterday because a different they have to update it oh you have to update it where are you uh I think you on charity on the charity oh on the charity okay got go k please cover for me for a minute we're going to do the testimonials so in the meantime you'll take care of that I see I wear any hats go ahead by the way behind me you see these beautiful records these are covers but these are original LPs and um I I brought them here and I said yesterday that for uh any donation for um $360 effective 720 or more uh for up to three if you just write in the comment of the donation um the first three that count come in I'll going to send you uh one of those records okay let's just see how many committed and audio files there are watching us okay let's do some testimonials huh yeah while I'm changing the the link go ahead no no they're going to put it on the screen sham we oh here we go it's my inspiration of the week and given over in a way that keeps me focused and interested the entire class enough so that I often repeat them to other people this is from SG and Long Island are local thank you very much wow all right let's keep scrolling through Rabbi tab shares extremely lofty and deep Concepts without dumbing them down he does it in a way that it comes through as clear and relevant and he gives it over in a concise and interesting way the this comes from RG New Jersey thank you by the way we see the scrolling donations on the bottom there was a technical issue last night uh that it was just doing the sum of the same ones over and over but uh we we will we will make we figured it out you everyone will be seeing across the screen and thank you very much sh and his team Isel grimberg and the people at charity okay let's go your classes are clear and fun to watch and now I'm taking the parenting course and it's changing everything I knew about parenting EK Staten Island New York all right wow it's too bad you're doing this you won't be able to hear your own praise probably better better that way right probably better I don't hear my praise yeah less of a impostor syndrome hangover tomorrow I'm updating the link to the charity page so that it shows tonight's uh YouTube instead of last night because that's where to watch it some people if they're watching our they're on YouTube direct but if you go to charity.com rst that's where everything is going to be all right uh let's go back meantime we have Shalom and mushka $100 all right Rabbi Tab and soul wordss have been mic my learning and taught me invaluable insights to practical situations I have rabie tab's voice in my mind when I am not sure what to do so grateful ds5 Towns New York so that would be uh ww RTD what would Rie toab do okay I'm back oh you're back yeah all right apparently the link has been updated by the way it was correct on Co and again I want to thank Co Miker because um she did an incredible job updating the pictures she took uh some of our guests and like put it out you know made it she Hypes you up she Hypes up yeah thank you she does a great job with that see you all she's the master of that she knows how to do that yeah let's do a few more testimonials could we go um let's go back uh I first started watching Robbie tab's weekly paraa classes and this past year when I finally committed to reading the daily Tanya portions I started watching the Tanya classes on Soul words the Tanya classes more than anything else opened my eyes to see what I had been but I'd long been missing FN mobile Alaska or Alabama what's Al Alabama Alabama Alabama There's a wow it already a pretty incredible golf like all over the all over the country last night we had Cologne Germany yeah and um I'm noticing a trend in some of these when I was reading them things like realistic practical applicable you know um and that's something that's uh that's important all right let's continue let's do a few more original profound content that I enjoy sharing with my community here in my schas anytime I want to approach an important subject I look on your website for Content wow and it's nice to hear that more people and this is from France so um the ah you said this is from and I saw you get intimidated like France I'm not going to even bother okay okay no problem I would way thanks for doing that well no because I would embarrass you about something I think is truly embarrassing I also would not have attempted to pronounce that city name right okay and you actually got an education unlike me yeah okay now we're going to go down a trauma Circle about laich education system okay you ask for it okay anyways go ahead I'm very very successfully educ well illiterate in three different languages thank you okay um oh let's do more testimonials we're running a campaign original profound well we did that one your classes got me through and by the way never mind you got your classes got me through a few rough patches especially youran and Shabah classes I would listen almost every day WS wow well they speaking of the sh classes for just for a second um so today I saw one of our matchers getsy Fel and we mentioned last night getsy andisa fellig because uh I think we mentioned last night we were sending condolences to their to their family so he was uh in town unfortunately for the funeral of his grandmother but I got to see him today and bashem when he he tuned in last night for a few minutes and he got to have some Nas he heard when we were inter interviewing Dimitri Dimitri Sala so we were talking to Demitri and he was saying how he's known me for a while and our paths had crossed at a a few different places but then he started learning with me recently online he was learning sh and then he got the book and I said to him yeah theu Fel edition of sh and gy who is the sponsor of the Fel Edition had F got to hear that line and I felt good that he got from that because he doesn't just support uh Soul words he supports lots of good stuff yeah anyways that's good timing you know Hashem has good timing good timing we did that joke last night what's the most ask me what's the most important part ask me what's the most important part of telling a joke you give away the joke now what's the most important part timing you know what um when you tell a joke to a a um a bus driver they laugh three times yeah once when you tell it once when you explain it and then once later when they understand it I don't know why I use bus driver that's not nice they're some of the best people some of my best friends are bus drivers yeah and uh when you tell a joke to a policemen they also laugh no they only laugh once because once when you tell it and then they don't even let you explain yourself oh okay policeman doesn't let you explain yourself yes okay it's a all right it's an old yish thing and I'm messing it up when you tell um a Jew a joke they don't laugh at all because before you're finished they say no you're saying it wrong you're saying it wrong right and various other okay can keep going right we're going to do we're going to dissect some jokes and we're the Frog we did some last night we're going to do some more yeah I hope so and uh we're going to make it very unfunny because joking is no joking matter joking is serious matter yes okay you know what I oh we also have some paradoxes and you know someone wrote once you know life is way too important to take Serious seriously it's life is one thing that's way too important for us to be taking it seriously Paradox like that yeah okay and more of those coming okay are we doing more testimonials you know what we're going to come back to doing more testimonials shami please make sure you remember where we we're up to in the testimonials speaking of paradoxes yes people think this is just funny business it's not it's not and it's actually something very related to what we're doing right now which is a campaign and we encourage everyone to continue going we still have about 20% to go and uh the time is going and uh who knows I think we may have a bonus round but in the meantime we need to reach our goal please help us and um everything you're giving is double is doubled is doubled shamai can you cue up clip 11 CU I think we were like a little all over the place yesterday there was so many things going on and I don't know if I explained properly the importance of the idea of the truth and paradoxes and I thought of this clip which I wanted to play anyway does a good job of demonstrating the truth and paradoxes the truth and paradoxes clip 11 clip 11 I'm just repeating what you said and uh as soon as I start seeing it this is oh here we go this story I'll tell quickly about a yid who was in uh the Sinai desert in the Israel Air Force it was porm he didn't even know it was porm and he got a a this moved him deeply and this started his path of CHA and it was eventually like many Israelis when they leave and they go they become more religious he ended up in Chicago Mas brought him to and he met the rebba and the rebba asked him a question how come everything yish K puts the emphasis on the right side when it comes to the heart which is such a vital organ Hashem seemingly put it on the wrong side he put it on the left side let it be like the brain that's in the center or if it has to be off center to off to one side of the other put it on the right why put it on the left this guy couldn't answer the question so the debba said but the whole purpose of the heart is emotions and emotions aren't for yourself they're for others so when you face another Jew and is your heart is on the right on the other Jews right so his whole Awakening to yish kite was when he was a receiver he got a gift that flipped it now you got to become a giver now you have to give the gift not just because you know one good turn deserves another now now it's you know now you got to step up but because that's how you were designed you were made your heart was placed on the other guy's right side when are we healthy when are we functioning according to our design when we're giving so don't give me this business that I'll do everything else but the AAS Isel part the whole purpose of it is to share it with somebody else or perhaps you could say it like this and I think everyone here knows this and I think it's something we try to teach our children and I hope it's something we try to teach every Jew that we meet that when it comes down to it the only Yiddish kite that you really have is whatever Yiddish kite you are actively giving away that was a good clip yeah I think it was so app propo and of of all to the paradoxes and of all true paradoxes well it seems like every time you stumble on one it's like well this one seems to be the most true this one is even more true and I'm I have a let me run this tell me what you think the reason that they all seem to be the most true yeah is because really all truths are centered and culminate from really one universal truth yes that's true and if you notice what is so interesting about true paradoxes right versus contradictions is that um there's there's it's not a resolution it's the synthesis the okay there you go again it's when two things synthesis of yeah of two things that are seemingly right right so is it perhaps that there's one ultimate truth there's one ultimate paradoxical truth and from there lends all these others and is that one universal yes and you know what the ultimate one Paradox from from whence all other paradoxes emanate you know what it is the Paradox that there's only Hashem And yet when is Hashem most himself when he's in a relationship with us that's the ultimate Paradox so there's M and there's Bim there's there's nothing but Hashem and there's he wants a Dwelling Place in the lowest Realms that's the Paradox and all other the tension of that Paradox is the source from when all other paradoxes emate Torah itself is a paradox you know my great great great great great great grandfather the magala mukes said that Mosa Mosa is the name of Moses the lawgiver M Moses the one received Torah at Sinai so he says that m is theis is the acronym sh the disputes between shamai and hel in other words the fact that you have um different opinions in TOA it's not a bug it's a feature so a lot of people make jokes about well the Jews they can never make up their minds two Jews three opinions but if you want to understand it if you if you want to be if you want to have contempt toward it it's easy to to make jokes but if you want to understand it uh think about it like this hashem's wisdom is infinite our minds are finite the only way for a finite vessel to grasp an infinite truth is through Paradox by something that is transcendent of being limited or categorized to one thing or another by definition the truth has to be bigger than one finite perspective and that's why truth is grasped through makus m shamay hillo through the through the U the tension of what you call the synthesis the thesis antithesis synthesis and uh you know I'll I'll add something that the anle of the Malala Muk the shle elim ever heard of that before the anle of the magala the shim he's an a he's a relatively recent from the five towns from the five see I told you this before you figured it out so yeah my my my safer which I have yet to have written is called the shim anyways um the G says which means that when there's a a dispute between the sages so these and these are the words of the Living God meaning to say they're both legitimate they're both valid perspectives so the anle of the Malala the shim says if you have both if you have Divergent opinions then then you have the words of the Living God if you only have one perspective you don't have the full picture yet it's now you have so and what is it if this is so Central and so it's like has that's at the core of this whole deal it seems and yet at the same time there seems to be a discomfort with that like the story of the guy who was looking for what a three armed Rabbi no no he was looking for the opposite he was well maybe that's the Paradox oh he was looking for a one-armed RAB oh I even in my head I figured even more more more add more why not wow and why not forearmed for a fraudi and slip okay no so what was the story we really don't like jokes to be told well around here no no we we despise J start with the punchline so I the punch line for this is well the one I have right now every time I ask him something he says an answer and the second later he says but on the other hand right yeah and I'll do and so a fellow calls up a local Rabbi says um synagogue I'm looking for a one-armed Rabbi a one-armed Rabbi why would you want that anyway exactly so moving right along would what is it I'm going just going to go ahead and read some and by the way in case there's a whole mix of this but I wanted to from Cuts there was a lot of uh beautifully true Paradox that came out and a famous one is um from where from Kut you said like like like theut yeah yeah yeah I mean the the rebas are full of beautiful all right no I didn't know yeah this one's famous um my grandfather would often say it a lot and this but um there is nothing quite as crooked I'm there's nothing quite as straight as a crooked ladder H right there's nothing quite as straight as a crooked ladder meaning you want the ladder to be crooked it has to lean against something yeah and that's actually straight if it would be straight it would actually be crooked yeah your grandfather used to say that no it's the it's from cus and they would say there's nothing quite as uh crooked as a sharp word sharp like straight you know straight talk right and there is nothing more whole than a broken heart oo that's that's a deep one and he also said something you were speaking about before about the heart in the video so he said video was five minutes ago I don't think people stay on YouTube that long we I think I would like to think that people more and more want long form content and I hope and I hope they donate by the way because we're also running a campaign in between this so for those who just tuned in 2 minutes ago where are we at I don't know I said we're going to take every time we hit another 10 grand and we're at 146 146 so what that's 81% is that really you make that up you didn't make that up no actually Char does it for me oh okay have to trust my m so the kutka once said my gosh M oh yeah you say it well this is a kutka thing I believe so yeah anything that sounds really really wise in I usually but that's any rather I think it is yeah that my my no no no is it well there's a similar about but uh the idea is that my Rus is your GM my spirituality is your materiality in other words that if you let's say I I have a a piece of cake if I eat the piece of cake okay so it's it's a material thing I mean maybe I could use it out later to to fuel some type of spiritual Endeavor but immediately right now it's just a material thing but if I take that piece of cake and I give it to you to feed you so in my providing for your material needs I have done something spiritually I've provided for my spiritual needs so your material needs are my spiritual needs I eat the bread it's just material I give you the bread that you eat it right but then you got to give it back to me cuz you also right have spiritual needs and I will just trade the piece of bread back and forth and so he saying like if you really care about Ras you'll tend to that other person's gmas right and you care about your own gmas you take care of your meaning that's that's on your right but so often you know it could be easier the other way around you know what a paradox what a par you know what here here I'm going to give you a few yeah and then well I'll do a few we'll go back and forth back and forth okay until we have someone a guess coming this is serious talk show here I got index cards we're doing for real um oh here's one about paradoxes okay I love that right okay a story about a story a paradox about a paradox the contradictions in my life drive me crazy but for some reason the paradoxes don't bother me a bit right and that's assuming that Paradox and contradiction are synonymous so therefore right because that no that statement is only a paradox if you say a paradox and and a contradiction the same thing because if they're different then it makes sense what he's saying yes but it's speaking to the point of what we spoke about yesterday which is the the disparity almost complete opposite of contradiction versus Paradox right and just to be clear there's another two words that sometimes people conflate and by the way since I didn't really get much of an education I do something now and this is why I'm great F I didn't get an education because if I did I might assume that I know grammar but I know that I don't and when I come across words even words that I think I do I know like I and I just once in a while I just Google definition and it has been such a GameChanger in my life because the amount of associations that I have with words and that Association and how that impacts me is incredible so doing that once in a while so some people confuse okay oxymoron that's just more of a technical term right but contradiction and Paradox is a big one and also hypocrite hypocrite hypocrite sometimes is and that's a whole another thing so here's one about hypocrisy yeah you I have it oh okay go my take turn I have the hypocrisy one yeah you go oh that was El lead you knew which card I had I knew there was one in there I wasn't sure there's more than one go okay here it is there's a paradox about hypocrisy your annoying habits make it imp possible hold on let me say it your annoying habits make it impossible for me to love you [Laughter] unconditionally oh and you know what we're going to do some funny ones mixed with some very serious ones that are also very funny and the truer that is usually the funnier it is but um in that case I guess we'll do a mix all right you know I said this one actually just before here's another one I think I'll procrastinate now and get it over with that's great for you Story of My Life go ahead all right this is another hypocrisy one you just look like the kind of guy who would judge a book by its cover it's true speaking of covers of books four cups I got it I'm going to judge from this one that it's a pretty good book it's a fantastic book and it could be yours for $36 no no $30 monthly or $360 right now which would be effectively $720 complicating people let's go to a paradox about Freud that will certainly you know bring it back down huh yeah we told the great Freud jokes last night oh yeah and a Freud story that story I me yeah yeah and a joke here's one you like it Freud asserted Neurosis is the inability to cope with ambiguity and the research is so bloody and conclusive right okay it's ambiguous okay most of Freud theories huh yeah okay I'm going to skip this one because it's similar because it's similar to another one because it's very similar to another I'm giving you quite a bit of I'm I'm giving you quite a bit more unconditional love than you deserve that was similar to another one I already said okay I can I do another one yeah yeah yeah you okay all right I haven't seen these yet so I'm really trusting don't sensor I I I'm not censored you censor you pre- censored them okay fine I don't go around worry woring about how other people see me wouldn't look good you know what actually you remind me right here there's a I remember Med Mar sh Masia remember him sure okay last year we did a song used to sing that's right and last night I saw a donation from Miriam Goldberg I believe his daughter wow wow okay so okay Lov did donation from uh from The Goldberg so we're going to tell M moro's story so he told story to faan I don't know if this is a real story or it's a true story you know it's one but he's he's exp Mak he was making a point he was saying I was sitting at a and they served mar mar ice cream right now you have to understand something the life of aafia you have to control yourself you don't indulge yourself so you serve you serve ice cream it's like who eats ice cream it's such such so inherently indulgent so he um he said I am going to uh conquer my TAA now for for the sake of the story I have to use two Hebrew words uh one is TAA uh TAA meaning lost or or desire so he says I have to conquer my TAA and he pushed away the ice cream amand Marza says I pushed away the ice cream because I'm not going to give into my TAA second later he says ooh the Yahara he's so cloud Aug because what did he do thear knows I'm my real issue is not TAA it's not lust and desire my real problem like my real character defect is Gaa Gaa means arrogance so he says the yahar the evil inclination knows I my real problem is GAA I'm arrogant I care about what people think of me and the reason I pushed away the ice cream is cu it's not aast it's not appropriate wouldn't look good that's why you reminded me from this card it wouldn't look good it wouldn't look good that Rand marov is publicly eating ice cream so that's why I push it away you know what D give it here and he takes it back says I'm gonna eat it I'm dka I'm gonna eat it right here in front of everyone they should I should just show them I'm getting over my arrogance he's about to make a he's so smart because he realized my issue is not GAA my issue is TAA it's the lost but he he knows he can't just get me to do something to be indulgent so he tells me it's a thing that you're going to conquer your GAA you're going to conquer your arrogance by publicly eating the ice cream but it's just because he knows he wants me to indulge myself with the the pleasure of eating the ice cream that that pushes it away he says oh this he's so smart and he goes back and forth and back and for you got to know the telling of it though he he he he knew how to tell a story he he was an artist he he goes back and forth like 10 different times oh is it is it the TAA no no no no it's the GAA no no no no it's it's it's not the ga it's it's the TAA and he says so I went back and forth and I'm trying to figure out I remember the punch line what's gonna win what's going to predominate the the lost the Indulgence or the guy of the arrogance and you know what happened by the time I figured it out the ice cream had melted can't get a like that that story is so perfect everything about that story is perfect yeah yeah yeah you know when I said we sang a song in his honor that one that he would sing at for braans what was the song the song has it's very cute song It's a Year song and it goes I'll just do it very quick it's a question and answer but there's no answer so it's but it's that sort of dialogue that's right so it's I'm not going to do it but the remember maybe when Ellie Marcus shows up he'll accompany you it would be yeah it's a very yeah and yeah um but that's it it's a dialogue without any content so just it's very circular circular but you remind me the theid who shabas afternoon he someone observed him like after doing and he's like there was already a kdes faan and he was like tussling with his Talis and he someone over her mummering to himself he goes no okay okay and he wasn't he was talking toara who was bugging him because he wanted to likeing in peace as should translat he was say Okay F I'll feed you but then leave me alone you know so um that's great that's great I and I I think when I go shopping with my wife sometimes and the donuts and stuff are calling yeah and I notice that if I try like oh just don't look and like fight through it sometimes I I'll go back but I did did this thing I stand in front of the donuts or what have you and I look at it I think about it I imagine and then all of a sudden I was like all right I don't need that I know I know what that's like I've been there I've eaten Donuts before it works for me okay CU it's more all right let's do more do another one okay here's one if it bothers you so much that I'm being a marter my I just read you can't say that one cuz of that word no I'll I'll it's very it's very good you know who we should have you know who should we give this line to you know who I want to get to say this what this joke you know which Rabbi I really like great videos tovia singer the anti-missionary yeah you think he'd be good for codependency too no I think no this line this line would be a good joke L listen to this joke if it bothers you so much that I'm being a martyr why don't you just crucify me that was good it would be it would be funnier if I didn't know well if we all didn't know people who pretty much said that okay um I think all of these uh lines are yeah realistic we know people who could have said it and I you know what I want to talk you know life may be terribly hard and very lonely but at the very least we're living longer these days tell me the jewi that reminds you of you knew where I was going cat skills no Helm it's Helm joke we do the helm joke two guys in and one says he says uh you know battle judging from how difficult life is sometimes I think it would be better to have never been born MH he says schm that's true but how many guys do you know who are actually that lucky one out of a thousand I love that how many guys you know who were never born you know what are my notes on this joke what does it say yeah so all comes from the same place so the catull one is oh my God the food is terrible here and the portions are so small that's right so all right let's do another you go go do another one okay I'm learning how to be less codependent and it's for your own good that's funny that's the only way I could get myself to like sort of not rescue someone what's the last thing of codependencies before he dies somebody else's life flashes before his eyes but is that is sometimes the only way to like start some I'm talking about to start myself off on not codependent trying to save the world is to like find out that I'm actually not going to do good for the person I'm going to save and it's like you know what we have a good one about that actually you may be H you may have it but uh another um okay maybe about another hypocrisy one about compassion oh actually I have a a good one you know if you were just a little bit different you wouldn't have to change at all that's good okay okay we're finishing these what would oh we have a very special guest we're going to break for our guest okay fine so over zoom and I want to continue where we left off let's these these were finished these were done finished give me that trash pile all right let's admit Our Guest you don't know who it is yet but I don't know anything I really don't know anything that you planned tell me about it okay just going along with the ride we're uh we're going to zoom we didn't even play the the hypocrit the Paradox intro okay next time I'm going do one second what's going on on here shamai oh okay all right she while she's going there I'm going to read a few names okay here we go by the way we have mailbag stuff coming up we got where we at we're at 84% 84% all right here's some yeah look at that the first thing I see I see a krinsky on the screen that just donated Shaya krinsky and riy From the Inside Out podcast 360 and the minute ago are we on we have oh okay our guest is getting their video connected we have Isaac meller $72 ra Salinger $108 Robbie TB thank you thank you Robie tal from the bottom of my heart Anonymous $144 oh our friend m khanan pure souls in pain $72 is that talking about us probably us we're just all human beings okay Human Condition You know the Jews are like everybody else only more so there is a good one yes yeah oh we have our guest I believe yes she just has to unmute herself oh there you go okay oh wow okay I see somebody okay hello hello hello oh can you go into uh landscape uh oh okay there you go is that better yes RI krinsky who's leading one of the teams the From the Inside Out podcast team last night we had David andita shottenstein it is your co-host on the extremely popular extremely popular From the Inside Out podcast anyways I I'm thankful sorry go ahead no I I don't want to take over I asked Rifka to come on um because I saw the I saw her team and they they're they're killing it I I mean that uh if they aren't at their goal already they're certainly close to it I want to mention something by the way that I noticed one of the donations from uh the team that we're speaking about right now which is again the From the Inside Out podcast team RI Go's on two teams she really on two team well no I'm I'm on one team she's on one team podcast the the From the Inside Out podcast but I just want to mention a specific donation there was a donation that came in from and ster gutnik yes did I say everything correct yeah and um they should continue to see see they should continue to see the Fulfillment of the Reb bras in their lives beas andas amen amen amen thank you very much yes so I asked to come speak a little bit about you know her involvement with with uh with you through through the Inside Out podcast and I also asked for for to come on and that's why I mentioned the other uh because um she said she would uh maybe share a few words about your parenting course and I wanted to get like someone where where did we where did we lose Rifka oh there she is could we go back on the screen sorry I'm right here oh there you are you're on the screen okay so Rifka please take it away okay well shall I start they're all these are all things I why you tell us maybe the first time you uh encountered Robie to or where that started so where it all started um is actually I was visiting my daughter in seminary and uh there was a a mother daughter class and that was where I first met Rabbi tab because he was living in Pittsburgh the Seminary was in Pittsburgh Seminary um soar of the Arts and my girls always taught always told me that Rabbi tab is one of their favorite teachers and he inspires them so much so I was very excited about joining this class and I want to just interrupt to tell you both of the daughters the krska girls who I taught got married this year mil yes you actually taught three of my daughters three of your daughters oh we got to make another that's right okay amem amen and by your children too amen so so um I listened to this class and I hadn't heard a deep sheer like that in a while um probably because I wasn't I wasn't uh looking for it enough but there I was it was right in front of me Hashem put me in front of this class with my daughter and I it made me feel like I wanted to go back to Seminary again and tap into that very deep uh place and be inspir feel inspired byus and its deep teachings and Rabbi tab did that for me in that class and it kind of just you know planted a seed in my mind and and then a Slater I guess it got me thinking about things um I'm a health coach and I wanted to make um my coaching practice a more meaningful I wanted to bring kasus into the picture and you know anything that's authentic and real can be applied to kasus like rer says and so I called him and asked him that he was the person I thought of because I loved this one class so much and asked him if he would spend a little bit of time with me talking to me I shared with him my Approach and he gave me some great um applications to kasus and he spent an hour with me on the phone and at the end of it I said so what can what can I do for you you spent so much time with me on the phone I was actually shocked that uh he spent so much time with me giving me so many deep thoughts and he said nothing and I was so um touched by that and I started listening to his weekly pass and one thing led to another the next thing I knew I was a team player this is my third time being his team player and it led to me learning a whole lot more and finding um meaning and all areas of my life where I was feeling a little bit lost at some points now I feel found and continue to tap into that place amazing bashem that's great you you want to know and you're mentioning like I I remember when you called me and you said that you need you wanted you wanted to incorporate some cidus into what you're doing with health coaching and and you're saying you're surprised that I spent the time with you but I think I told you at the time I'm almost certain I remember telling you but if I didn't tell you the time I I'll say now a lot of people know that Soul words is you know they know Soul words but actually um soul wordss is a DBA it's doing business as the name of my actual organization is called kabad Leadership Institute kabad because it's all about the Reb's approach kabad is changing people through educating them and helping them think differently but it's called Leadership Institute because really the way that I see what I do is to empower leaders now leaders don't have to be you know Mayors and governors and uh CEOs a leader could be a mother in her home as a leader uh a school teacher in in in their classroom is a is a is a leader uh everyone is is a leader in some capacity and I really see that as a big part of my SCH is when I feel like somebody is going to take a message and they're going to teach it to other people I to me I see that as time well spent so if I'm going to say something to somebody who's influential somebody who has a platform and then they're going to take that and run with it to me that was a smart use of my time so in fact I might even say it's a little bit selfish because instead of talking to a thousand people for for even if I speak to them each for a minute that's a thousand minutes instead talk to one person for 60 Minutes who's going to spread that out to the equivalent of 10,000 minutes and that's that's what I feel I I did and that's what I what I try to do so um yeah yeah yeah it's it's very meaningful to be able to share cus and um its teachings to my clients through healthy living and I really thank you for um putting me on that path it's uh and that led and that and that led to our podcast to and we share a lot of your teachings pretty much in at say every conversation and even when we do interviews you've got so many great quotes like um people don't care what you what you people don't people care what you know until they know that you care I mean many quotes we just even did our last interview with Rifka Goldstein and uh somehow we shared one of your quotes it was situations are controll to Hashem the one area where Hashem gives us control is in our thoughts so wherever you are you are for sure in the right place you may not just be thinking about it in the right way we shared that quote every episode somehow you come up okay yeah um but I I do you mentioned Ed and David and I do want to say um as far as our podcast goes that I could not do it without my podcast partner and we are a real team and I thank Hashem for for guiding me to to AA and and to you as well and and I would would just offer some commentary not that anyone's asking for my social commentary but I believe the success of your podcast is because there is so muchus in what you do not that necessarily it's branded that way which is probably wise that it's not that's not like the the label that someone sees but there's so much Sidis in what you guys are doing and I think that's what the world's hungry for and that's part of the popularity so I'm uh I'm glad to have some hand in that you absolutely do and I couldn't agree more to the than you so much for coming on thanks for uh the page and all the your influence we really see uh the results coming in and for all the vital work you do on the podcast I've enjoyed I've enjoyed many of those episodes by the way I do listen to the podcast with yeah I loved it I'm so glad thank you thank you for tuning in and I do want to say that I did love Rabbi your your parenting course this uh past year it has done so much for me as a mother and I want to thank you for that as well and and that connects to what I was talking about before about leadership um who are the primary leaders in the most important unit of any society parents because they lead the home and the home is the most important unit of of any culture of Any Nation so empowering parents empowering mothers and fathers to be leaders in their home to me that is again time well spent and it's a good way to focus my energies so the parenting uh the parenting webinar is really all part of that and I should mentioned as long as we're talking about the parenting webinar uh le' and Basi shamov from uh West Bloomfield Michigan from the Friendship Circle the original Friendship Circle they're the ones who came up with the vision of the parenting webinar and they pushed it through and they invested in the the development of it and it's become barem it's just really growing and it'll continue to grow amen amen I it it's something I would never want you to give this up because I know how much it's done for my life um as a mother of my CH of my children older children and younger children and I know all the women that I've been doing this parenting course with feel the same way because uh it's evident on the chat and I've heard from a lot of them personally um it's really so empowering and Soulful and who doesn't want to be a Soulful parent who doesn't want to connect to the child soul to soul that's right and that's what this parenting course does yeah it's been well received so yes hasem so may it continue to go from strength to strength it's an honor to be a part of your campaign amen thank you thank you so much for all your help and for the getting the word out and being a a real uh champion of this cause it's a pleasure and thank you for everything you're welcome thank you wow that was nice yeah we got another uh well a few different people lined uping but I want to a few donations I wanted to mention and ask you about wow we got a beautiful one from um Mitchell and Karen uh yeah good friends yeah and fish and Tamar pezner locally ,600 keep up all the great work W and rifa Jacobson $3,600 through the Inside Out podcast continue ATA Mushi and sty fogelman uh $2,400 mendle and ra ri is it RI or RI RI I'm sorry RI uh Simons that's Los Angeles oh oh great I'm assuming $22,400 this is wow nice you spoke there with Ellie Nash right yes I did yes yes I remember that okay and we have Anonymous and appreciation for rabie tal from a weekly listener $2,400 and uh the Christian f it's not CH the Kirin family good $2,160 in honor of a Fram Lev Adler of blessed memory and Robinson the guard of blessed memory and then we have the uh dman fund the dman family $220 um anonimous you know do you have the tiny CDs there yes just grab that because we spoke about it last night about the mapping the Tanya 3H hour CD box set and that was also from the what's the name of the foundation yman casset fund yeahman Cass fund I believe was also uh behind this was was an early project of mine yeah and I'm I'm mentioning some of the bigger donations uh but I because I I just clicked it let's let you see but every donation not just counts and I know that's a cliche um but but but it's meaningful and we spoke about that yesterday because uh it means a lot for Robie tal to know that people are actually receiving his work and benefiting from his work and and noticing and appreciating because when you're working in a virtual world which today more and more is uh where we're at it's hard to know who's telecommuting fax machines everything okay um can we do a joke and then we got some really cool stuff going on um I want to do a joke um uh shamai um could we get uh clip number two for a joke no that's mail bag you know what let's do the mailbag go ahead uh clip two let's do mailbag we said we would take people's questions we have a few questions okay and we got a bunch of questions I picked a few that I want to do tonight if we have time no it's going to come on in a [Music] [Applause] [Music] second it's very important to do that it creates hype it creates uh something so here's a question all right we did one um we did one question last night another one yeah okay no that's not the one I wanted to do one second okay um okay not a question not a question I would be happy to hear Robbie tabb's outlook on having patience it's more of a comment really but I think it is a question think we have time for that one oh very good very very good wow okay no but can I really answer it seriously because somebody wrote it in and you know they could be listening right now and we want to give them took time we should respect the fact that they they wrote it so it's not a question but they would like to hear my perspective I'm having on having patience so my perspective on having patience is is like this um here's what I understand I understand that you know this's expression time takes time time takes time yeah which is sort of a truism of course time takes time but what that means is you have to respect the process um we talk aboutus this concept called pus which means literally translated pemus means inwardness but doesn't mean what it sounds like you know you hear inwardness you think it means like being like an introvert or something like that inwardness means um the opposite of superficiality superficiality means a change that is fleeting because it doesn't really affect you deeply you know like you get all hyped up you get excited you get inspired and you make a change and then it's shortlived so that's that's Kus um and that's even when it's sincere it's the person didn't want to be a you know there's there's a more brute expression of Kus where the person's deliberately being a faker and they're trying to fool people but I'm even talking about somebody who's sincere and they want to really change but it's not really uh mentally and emotionally integrated it's just uh excitement excitement isn't a real genuine emotion it's just uh a sensation of something so it it it dwindles easy come easy go pemus is real change real change and and real change requires that we go through a process and there's no shortcut to that process you know the the Tanya on the very uh front page the title page of the Tanya says that the whole book is based on explaining a scriptural verse it says uh this matter meaning Torah observance is very close to you very close to you and uh that sounds like sort of a almost outlandish assertion it's very close to you like like it's such a slam dunk it's so easy for everybody so the ALB acknowledges that that may not have been everyone's experience and he says that the purpose of the book is Lao to explain how it is close to you and then he says and sometimes people explain that that means that he's going to outline a path to Torah observance that is long and short um or sometimes they say that it's an explanation which is both long and short but they're really the same thing the explanation and the path itself either way you have this Paradox of long and short what is long and short long and short means it's going to take time it's not overnight but and that's why it's long but it's effective it leads to permanent change and in that respect it's short so the question was my perspective on patience my perspective on patience is this to sit around and do nothing that clearly is not uh what we're saying we're saying have patience have patience no we don't mean sit around and do nothing when we say have patience what we mean is engage in the process but realize that the growth for today may be relatively small may be relatively small growth today but if you're engaged in a process and you don't jump ship and leave that process abandon that process when it gets difficult or boring or whatever because it does get boring because the nature of growth that's pemus it is it to be quite Frank it can become you know sort of uh old what do they call old hat it can become uh boring so but if you commit to it and you say you know a little change every day a little growth every day uh my reactivity to the things that set me off is still there but it's a little bit less today than it was yesterday uh yeah I'm still bothered by a lot of things that I wish I I I I weren't bothered by but I'm a little less bothered by them today than I was yesterday so patience means that as long as the process is ongoing as long as there's a commitment to remain engaged in the process let it work itself out let things take their course that's patience understand that anything that's worthwhile is a process and by the way this is I'm not saying this to be like a fundraising pitch I'm saying it because it's on my mind because I'm thinking about the fact this is our third fundraiser this fundraising has been a process because you know like last night we had the shottenstein on and I and I said how they before I even did my first campaign they sponsored that I should make my first website my first website was frankly it was I mean uh it was professional but it wasn't like what we have now and and that was like the first thing and then a year lat after I built up an audience because I had that website so then we did our first campaign and after the first campaign and then we redid the website and made the whole beautiful website and then we did a second campaign and then we were able to build the studio so and and now I'm already thinking but well next year I want to have uh Retreats and shabbaton and I have all these these Visions for what I want soul wordss to be and you know in Theory why can't we be there already and I understand though it's a process and part of the process I I mean to be quite Frank this this live stream it's hard work it's hard work and uh asking people for money is hard work but I realize that it's all part of the process it's necessary you can't just have a vision of here's a message that I would like thousands of people to be on board with okay that's that's that's nice that you want that but there has to be a path there has to be a way for that to happen and what do we do what do we do quite frankly what's the process day by day record another class make another clip send out another WhatsApp broadcast post another YouTube video another Torah anytime do another speaking engagement teach another class and cumulatively you see you see the cumulative effect is that we have this virtual community we have thousands of people who are being affected in some way or another by the work here at Soul words and we have hundreds of people who are voting with their feet they're coming out not physically but virtually to to show up and to make a contribution and to write a to write a dedication which I really appreciate I like those dedications it's very encouraging at any rate but the question was about patience and I ended up talking about my own person I'm running out of that you're running out of patience okay take it away but wait yeah you're slow and steady wins the race that's yeah that's way to reduce it to a cliche clich a Hallmark card exactly but it's true that's why cliches are cliches because they're so true there's a reason it works that's right I'm a sucker for a hallmart card and one you don't see those stores anymore in the malls you don't even see malls anymore you don't see malls yeah it's true what we have the hag here by the way which anyone who donates at $360 or $36 a month you get the first uh no it's $30 a month which is $360 a year which is effectively $720 for the campaign right you get the uh four cups recovery hagada the reason I thought of the hag was you want to read this text by the way just to interrupt you see who it is and what they wrote oh I saw the I was going to read the donations before um this one or the last message the last message wow you're almost there barem all caps who's it from your fan oh thank you that's from D and we saw her donation just before wow oh you did yeah she donated just I meant to read it before but um yeah thank you Rishi D and and last year Rishi ran the whole phone call center because we were in Crown Heights this year we did it all here five we should mention I'm sorry I didn't mention it earlier we do have some volunteers here led by your daughter tyel yes and um I don't want to misdo the names but I do know that my brother-in-law m goritzki is here making calls I recruited him oh he's here already yeah not only do I volunteer myself I volunteer other people your whole family your in-laws even that's like it's another level yeah thank you Mendy and oh no maybe we'll get them to come on he's a funny fell um and uh and there's two other fell I'm going to get their names I I forgot them um but thank you and yeah so Rishi donated earlier and uh I saw the message of for the man who brought sh into the masses including me rishid D $400 oh that's so nice yeah wow and I want to so oh I was saying about the hagada because I think this is a question that people have sometimes you know we spoke about paradoxes yeah right and then there's also truisms right yeah which is more like and sometimes redundancies right yeah like time takes time like what does that yeah what's up with that or first things first right of course or um what's the Kish in that everyone knows the first things are first right and and then there's also like a dualism you can have something like um the long short way thing where you know the or um or something like okay this is a cliche but I was thinking something else something like there's times for just do it and there's times for slow and steady wins the race right I mean I could you imagine if Nike sponsor jerseys for or athletes with slow and steady R of race like they sponsored the marathon with that slogan yeah so but does that mean that it's inherently not true or just means that when you're in a race that wouldn't really be the time for that everything has its context but somehow sometimes there's like a lack some we think that there's we get caught up in like is there a mistake here you had this we mention mentioned yesterday this 5H hour marathon uh with yessi Jacobson and you said there's a part two coming yeah met um and it was about Yol Khan yeah and his his impact on how we learned this and he spoke a lot about what if there's maybe one of the most famous quotes when everyone says Yan is yeah and which people would take as like dismissive want I didn't want to answer which means like depends what we're talking in context of what context matters people ask a question you would say what depends what what's the context right and people will say Ah that's not really but that is the truest answer because I think that's all the problem you know last night we were speaking about things and ideas anyone who didn't hear that you can go back to last night's recording it's only four and a half hours just watch it until you get to the things and ideas part remember we're talking about we're talking about things and ideas about the idea that uh a thing is sort of limited to physical space so it can only be in one place at a time it can only if if it's one way it can't be the other way because that's sort of the inherent limitations of space and time um you know if it's black it's not white if it's tall it's not short but ideas by definition are fluid and ideas are characterized by the context in which they're placed so if you want to understand an idea properly you have to understand the the the relative quality of every of every idea I mean you know can I give an example that might sound really technical but I'm sure there's like two people out there who will enjoy this and then we'll get back to some more light stuff okay I give you an example in Tanya mentioned Tanya before and there's the Tanya 3-hour CD is sponsored by the fund okay but but anyways in Tanya he says that there's something called where which are the uh the Soul's Powers the capacities the potentials potential for uh cognition potential for uh emotions and he calls that the the the essence of the Soul as opposed to what as opposed to the the the the clothing or the manifestations or the outer Expressions so he says in Tanya don't Focus so much on the on the Mish on your internal makeup because that's very hard to change you can't force yourself to change what you like and dislike but focus on the focus on the outer expressions and you can choose behaviors you can do something you don't like if it's the right thing to do do it even if you don't like it okay so that's he says in t but then in which is also a safer from from the AL my of the AL so he says that that the the neish is beyond any shape not just physical shape but any description even the even the the conceptual idea or map of so the soul itself cannot be described the essence of the Soul cannot be described even by the 10 Soul Powers he says oh and this that Tanya because the was the author of T say and this that in Tanya I said that this the sole powers are he said that was relative to the subject of Tanya because in Tanya we're speaking about focusing on behaviors which are outer as opposed to the inner uh qualities and characteristics which which are much harder to change so in in relative to the discussion of tan which is about behavioral Perfection we we call the soul Powers Mish but if you want to have a larger discussion about the soul itself no even the soul Powers cannot be called the essence of the Soul because it's already descriptive and the essence of the Soul would transcend description okay anyways back to the fun that was fun that was fun in a certain way it was true Rel in context but wh why is it and this is more of a comment really I'm not really asking but yeah it's it's kind of sad and that's why I and I know many others appreciate your work is your ability to to deal in the world of nuance and sadly there is a lot out there that is lacking that in in the religious World in religious commentary I'll just leave it at that um and uh and it's it's sad because it's almost like if you believe then you can handle Nuance it's like like if you confident in something you're usually able to handle Nuance about it but if you're not then you're very uncomfortable with it and very dogmatic and there's only one way like people who are confident themselves can like change it up or people who aren't like it's my way or the highway and it it's it is sad because um like it it it shows itself for what it is um and it's it's it's almost heretical like if if you can't trying to fit God into a box of limited dogma of like it's got to be very Tech a thing it's a thingify Theif and that that's why you know I think if you want to go down this route I mean it's a very like but sometimes I think a helpful idea when I try to have this conversation with people I say listen there's a difference between hash and it's actually related to the T today that we were learning about about the the power of Hal because H is dealing with actual objects things is rigid in that sense of there's a there is a there's a right way to do something okay because Hal is talking about the world of things it's talking about how how big does a cup have to be to use it to wash okay and in that area of T we do need clear delineated descriptions I have to know what what what's a kosha Suka I have to know what are kosas but when it comes to ideas ideas not only are they too big to be contained by one perspective like we were talking about earlier the truer the idea the more Paradox the more more Nuance it's going to be capable of encompassing do a thing I'm just typing so much okay no I I want to ask you something yes is you don't have to make up a question no no I do I do have it's more of a comment really so there's a speaking of paradx there's a paradox say you know if it's spiritual it's practical how do you want if you want to know if something's spiritual you ask yourself is a practical right and even that seems like right it's um so everything has to come down to the lowest point I don't mean that in low it in reference but in the most practical sense it has to and yet if you don't appreciate the abstract if you're stuck in the Practical then you probably won't get it right because you're not starting fromp Von said and I'm specifically quoting the Von come on in wait someone's at the door but I'm going to finish the Von quote while you're letting in whoever is here who's here W who Ellie Marcus is in the studio I was just telling what the villon said he said what's that to say about him what are you trying to say this is Everything's Relative it's all context vagon said that somebody who will learn the so the mystical esoteric secrets of the T will also understand remes and dush the more literal levels however one who does not learn so then even he will not understand so in order to have a practical understanding of things this is what I'm reiterating what we saying in order to have a practical understanding of things you have to have an abstract understanding of things if you have an appreciation of the spiritual this is what will give you the ability to function within the material anyway Ellie Marcus is here why are we talking when we have world famous singing talent and piano play Talent musical Talent does he have a mic hey yes oh wow okay back in the studio this is great we have a special guest coming on in five minutes so if we can go right into are you ready just walk put them to work right away before our guest comes on can we say that's a beautiful beautiful jacket beautiful D it's hard to come by the wow fly that's why they pay me the big bucks you know all right what what are we doing should we do uh can we you can we you uh how about a niggan any niggan with a nigan start with a niggan you know it's uh it's still y m y so um it's only a handful of nunim from uh from the mbas era we had the capellia which was saying yesterday did you talk about P we didn't no we didn't touch that okay um and then most people associate with but really is also because the uh yeah the relationship with with because the tum of the day the daily portion of tum for yud KV is uh is chapter pericon he where you have the actual capital of T where it's from uh we have time for yeah I think we do it yeah let's pick a good key let's [Laughter] [Music] go make it [Music] only keep [Music] you it's more piano in the [Music] monitor oh [Music] you [Music] name [Music] little too much in the [Music] monitor [Music] we [Music] for [Music] me [Music] for [Music] foree [Music] fore Shaka wow thank you how's that for a paradox by the way no warmup you just walked right in took off his coat boom straight him from the cold p b oh pom is a paradox shom is a paradox we have a very special guest here okay um could we go to zoom shamai Our Guest is in the room already should be seeing on the screen oh Ellie could you go to oh I gave it away landscape could you oh look look who's there wait we need you're on mute you're on mute just one second I'm not on mute on my side oh there you go there actually but the phone didn't come through yet it didn't uh fully go to landscape you're on is your orientation locked oh there we go all right keep it on let me get even a little more lights over here so that's this is my studio R you like it oh you have a studio you know what go back go back to H vertical mode that's good okay here we go yeah it's good we see him we see Al Ellen Ash our friend our supporter one of our matchers here we are so here we are again here we are I want you know the other day I did a video for uh this Global giving day thing I've been working on and um I guess the camera was up like this and my father s m like that video did you have a yamon because you really should have and so just want to make sure pops if you're watching I'm proudly wearing my yaka everything's about angles gotta get the right angle right that's true angles angels remember the first like Zoom era the first like two months of Co with the zooms and like the Baby Boomers straight up the look or the chin the chin you go lay down the chin look and then everyone was doing it but like a by then everyone just gave up like in the recovery meetings I go to for a while they had to make a rule like no being on zoom in dead show some respect sit up sry stop coming yeah yeah it's not going all a sudden everyone finds everything triggering H I like all all all the little snowflakes come out of the woodwork you know that mug you have there the color of it you know when my dad would beat me he would often have a gray mug on his desk like okay dude okay different meeting but similar problems you know we last night we had uh David Nita shatenstein on who were talking about being matchers also matchers um and they were talking about how they got started with soul wordss and David said something it was very like I took it as a big compliment he Saidi like winners like in business I like winners and in my in my giving I like winners I that made me feel very very good that he feels that that's nice yeah bar yeah that's nice yeah Chase can I share a story from last year when we did this uh same thing yeah please okay so it was it was my shavas last year it was 12:30 or so at night I didn't get Prime Time like I get this like I I feel special like I'm like the uh like 60 Minutes time slot yeah right so last year you delegated me to uh 12:30 you didn't know how I would perform but apparently I did well I got you're ready for prime time now and this is without you even knowing the story or maybe you know the story but some people listening may not so I got on at 12:30 and I was sure no one was watching I was sure who's watching a live stream at 12:30 on a on a Mist so we spoke we speaking freely you outed me about learning from time to time and on it I dropped something about a talk I gave on addiction to pornography and I saw I can't see you now because you're very distant but I saw your face drop and it's like oh man did Ellie really have to come on here to my live stream to talk about addiction of pornography he couldn't couldn't find another place and here I am doing it again I saw your face and so I saw your face and I'm like like I don't know May made a mistake no I didn't think too long I just it's what came out I didn't I wasn't planning on it it just the conversation that came out two days later I get an email from someone um it's very clear that the email was made specifically for this purpose okay it was like the email I don't I don't want to say it just in case he uses the email for anything else now but it was something like um asking for help gmail.com that kind of thing exactly I I get those all the time yeah yeah yes yeah so the guy doesn't mention his name and he says hey I happen to be um on R Chase's live stream and this guy shows up and next thing he's talking about sport addiction I'm like what what's going on here and he's like I'm a I'm a rabbi in such and such a place and I struggle with this problem I've never spoken to anyone about it and when I heard you talking I said I saw you talking about it comfortably it's an issue I have maybe we can maybe you can help so I said sure I'd be glad to and I think this is a great first step because I tell everyone who's struggling with it is that this disease lives in shame and leaves in lives in secrecy so you're taken the great first step by emailing me even though it's Anonymous it's still a better step than not sending an email and why don't we get on the phone so he said great but I can't I'm not telling you my name I said I don't need a name what do I need a name for so we spoke and I don't remember exactly how the conversation went but every month or two after the campaign rubet I got an email from him updating me on the status and how he's doing eventually he communicated with his wife with his in-laws with his family and then a couple of months ago believe it or not I got an email from his real address oh so a very a very fine guy who is struggling and I'm that's I'll tell you that's how I knew we were doing something good and supporting the campaign is good came from good so I'm glad to be back here at more prime time slot and uh if someone struggles strg with this only this is not for uh for uh this is not for um donations but if someone's struggling in this way my email address is @gmail.com you're free to use it to share any of these things and I'll be glad to uh to respond to it and even if it's another issue I'm very happy to support if there's a secret I I I believe Secrets kill people so I've a lot of people have felt comfortable a lot of people have felt comfortable sharing their secret with me and I'm proud that this person who heard us for the first time last year Chase shared that secret with me and he's in a much better place today that's did you know this story um you know I think right after you told me that somebody reached out to you but I didn't know that it developed into a relationship and I and I I'm positive I didn't know that he told you his real identity and so I didn't keep you up to date yeah yeah what do you think of what do you think of it like you say good comes from good and here's how I look at it by the way it didn't bother me that you spoke about it I mean you look if if if you were just trying to think of something shocking to say it would bother me but if you were speaking from the heart and you're speaking because it's something that's important to you something that's real then no no harm can come from that and like you say Secrets kill people so to to to suppress something because um because of Shame is uh you know it's interesting I spoke to just a little side point I'll get back to to what I'm saying here but I spoke to I have a group of masim and I won't say I don't think it's a secret again you know we don't want to have secrets but I don't have permission I I some things are private some I was about to ask you Ellie before you came on we were talking about the diff the nuance and and the differences when context and the when I was in yiva with you the 2003 there was the first time someone challenged a very binary black white way of thinking that I at the time was 15 I had and I would we would have long conversations and was the F like I started to like being able to handle Nuance I told you this before it was very think yeah and that's really what thinking is but you once gave a very nice I mean it's it's out there but you you you phrased it very well and you posted it like on social media a few years ago just very simple introduction to the difference between private and secret yes so this what I'm about to tell you is I don't even know if it's private but I'm not at I I don't want to assume something is public so should we say the difference because some people are going to be stuck on that oh yeah okay fine go ahead yeah elaborate yeah I just don't want to lose the train of thought yeah go ahead okay so private is something we share with specific people they're actually opposites private is something we share with specific people sometimes it's ourself but this is private we share it only with specific people secrets are things that you keep from certain people so notice a secret you may be comfortable talking to a stranger on the subway about it but you won't be comfortable telling your wife about that thing because the secrets about who we're keeping it who we keeping what from and private is about who we're sharing what with that's right exactly the opposite right and therefore some something that's private can create a connection because you're choosing sh it whereas something that's secr is by definition a destruction of an intimate Bond because it's right so something you're hiding by so not only is it not Nuance they're completely different things they're exactly the Opposites private and secret is exactly the opposite contradictive versus a paradox meaning to say it actually is a contradiction not something where the yeah so what I was about to tell you I have a group I so so it's not a secret and it may not even be private but you have to be careful uh when you're involving other people what you share so but I'll tell you I have a group of guys who are all masim in yeshivas and I think that you had a little hand in this I don't know how how much you realize you had a hand in this you know that after I spoke to a certain group I think I called you and I told you I was a little bit frustrated do you remember that I remember this okay and the good that came from it is that a small group of them said you know what let's continue the discussion and we have a group every month we get together on Zoom these are in mainstream means like it's hard to describe it as someone who's not privy to like theic inside baseball but the teachers ofic teachings they're not just teachers they're meant to be mentors and and uh and guides so we we we meet every month and we talk about things that are GNA help us teaches in scho gues in schools in in the schools right so last session and actually um I was just earlier today I saw another friend of ours a mutual friend and another matcher I saw getsy felig today and I mentioned this to him as well because he's also so um he he he actually said to me a line which I said to this group he said you know the Mas sit and they and they talk about ice cream oh don't eat ice cream and right he says I didn't understand what's what what's this this monster called ice cream I didn't find I didn't find out till it was too late you know what what are they why didn't they talk straight why didn't they just talk straight so what this was one of the lines that I said but I spoke to them I said you know sometimes you know there's something called U you know speaking politely you know you don't have to purposely say something for shock value God forbid but when you have to explain something explain it and the fact that something needs to be explained and you're refusing to say it clearly itself creates shame around it and I told them that when it comes to certain struggles it's very often if you want to talk about spiritual destruction if you want to talk about something that can really derail somebody it's not not so much the act itself as it is the shame around it which compounds the act and then becomes this whole this whole other uh identity secret to use the the word the distinction you're using before and so we were speaking about being a safe place for young men to be able to share their struggles in a non-judgmental way to actually get the spirit ual help that the Masia is there to to provide so you're making an interesting point I want to make sure I understand this what you're saying is is that an effort to be polite the mashia not only is not doing a service to the issue he's furthering the exact issue that's holding the person back from getting help healing it right by by describing it in a way that canotes shame right because if it weren't so shameful then why are we dancing around say the word right we just say right there are a few ideas that um every single spony I open about the fact that I'm in recovery which means I have spones some are Jewish some are non-jewish but every single spon that I've had I think I've shared this idea with um and you I may need your help with the Hebrew words I tell there's a prayer I think we say it um said a few times I think in Marv and maybe in krishma and it says um to to remove the SAT from before me and from from in front of me and from behind me right yeah yeah in the yeah the very end of yeah what's the words give me a sither we we'll give me the big sither right here this one of my we'll do it correct so keep a sit here in case we have real Scholars such as yourself and then we can people don't realize people don't realize telling you I have very people are going to think I'm joking they don't realize that most of the discussions we have well a lot of discussions we have about fundraising because you've been a big um influence of my life in that area not just as a giver but coaching me and motivating me but most of our discussions of are of a spiritual nature and we talk aboutus and we talk about SAS and all that kind of stuff um sorry okay so right here we have in the hash this is at the end of the the uh blessings after the shma we say uh please keep Ellie on as long as Ellie stay on as long as you can because since you came on I'm just getting they're flying on the screen I don't know what's going on the rate we went up like like 200% in the rate of donations coming in just good luck I turned off the noise but the cash register has been flying right oh nice okay so we say V so that's talking about removing different things from us like enemies and pestilence and the sword meaning violence and famine but then we say you should remove the suan usually in English translated Satan but it means the adversary the adversary or the accusing Angel remove it mil from in front of me and from actually it's I should say it's plural from in front of us milu remove the adversary or accusing angel milu from in front of us and from behind us behind us and what was taught to me is that this one right so the one in front of us is the one that's enticing us and saying hey why don't you check out this flashy object or this new website or something else and the one behind be the one behind is the shame it's one who says oh now look what you did so if you that you're not you're not worthy of this and you're not worthy of that and you're a terrible person and so on and so forth and that's the shame and the way it was taught to me I think May was a rebel or something who said this is that the first one I can deal with the second one is the one that uh the one in front of us can be dealt with it's the one behind us that creates a real destruction and that's been my experience with uh with recovery as well exactly what you're saying is that the shame that sets in that's the prison the lock on the door the like all of that yes because people can get encouraged and enticed to do something and then afterwards they say okay I don't want to do that again it doesn't feel right but when there's a shame and they feel like a bad person they can't talk about it then the mind starts spinning on it and it's very difficult to get out of that prison without speaking to someone so if someone needs to asking for help asking for help 977 is probably available at gmail.com you can make the email address an email me or you can use your name whichever one and happy to be the uh oh you're making up an email address for people like you're saying yes if they need it 977 saying there's 976 people already who did it then uhhuh okay all right join the club just say that you're you're asking for a friend you're asking for a friend yeah asking for a friend fam story of the yeah but that that that's that's not a secret any Everyone Knows by the way one of the things since we're talking about that and talking about stories of of of Rim um one of the things that I mentioned to these Mas uh is that in bosani the Reb's first M so the Reb tells different stories of the about their about their love of fellow Jews and each story is a different type of a story like the alterb story is about on in the middle of yipper taking care of a a woman who had just given birth and chopping wood and preparing a fire and that type of self-sacrifice but the story of the mitler reban it's interesting because today y today was Y is the Y of the MIT the MIT was the son of the the Al and he went free from prison today so the mit's story of his love for a fellow Jew is that and the way that EBA describes the story is that a younger man came into a young man was in a private audience with the m and he complained about one of the things that young people often complain about meaning a spiritual struggle and the Reb didn't say exact but not because the shame of it because being polite you don't have to spell out but that what I well what I was pointing out is the normalization of it that EBA said he complained about one of those things the young people complain about in other words don't make it seem like you're the only guy who ever had this issue what are you talking about this is a thing that young people complain about and maybe not only young people but this is a thing it's a thing and then the rest of the story is the MBA showed him he rolled up his sleeve and he showed him how it physically affected him and made him weak so one of this one of the the MH was saying like you know what do you do with that story because it makes it seem like oh you're not only you're you're so bad but you're like you're hurting the Reb I said that's not the point of that story the point of that story is even somebody who felt that bad that DEA was showing him I'm with you to the point where we're in this together we're going through this together so you think you've disconnected yourself from everything holy no quite to the contrary we're you haven't separated yourself from me and I'm with you so I told them they have to they have to make that message loud and clear that you haven't separated yourself from anything and you haven't changed who you are and you haven't change your identity but uh I think it's something that well I got to tell you when when when you speak about things like this there is a trickle down effect and I think it affects lots of different places including yeshivas for the good I tell you one of the most important things I've learned from you and I learned this before I met you I learned this I think in in the in the first book I read which is the way we metant God of our understanding about addiction uh was that the drive I'm trying of think how you said it but the drive for addiction which really is is this your line because I think I quoted in your name but I wasn't sure the other day that an addict is like everyone else only more so is that your line okay so it's interesting you say that because like 20 minutes before you came on I said toim I said you know the Jews are like everybody else only more so where where did I get that from I got it from Leo rasten I think from like the introduction to joys of Yiddish or something so he said like an old saying the Jews are like everybody else only more so so I took that and I repackaged it and I said that addiction is an exaggeration of The Human Condition right and therefore you could say that an addict is like everybody else only more so only more so yeah you know what they say all all all wisdom is plagiarized only stupidity is original thank you so yeah I sort of I could take I take credit as theist yeah so well was it oh so what you said was in the book that the drive for whatever it is alcohol I think you're thinking speaking specifically about alcohol is coming from a very good place like it's a misguided drive and actually a few years ago I heard someone who was uh I think a boy from Williamsburg who had a heroin addiction or something something else delivered a poem at prob mayor kesler's um Retreat and he he said something that sound it was beautiful poem brought tears to my eyes when he said it and he said God when I put that needle in I was aiming for you I missed my Mark and I thought of uh I thought of I I I thought of that line when I heard was I read when I read your book the first time I was steeped in my own shame around addiction the reason I'm so passionate about it is because that was a door that I had to break out of and I remember reading your book and hearing it specifically from a rabbi in those terms and say hey that drive that you had so much shame for me I first meaning the first way of getting around it was okay the I don't have to take the Jewish message so seriously and that's the way I'll get out of the shame but Judaism definitely had something shameful to teach me there and let me break free of that and when I read your book was the first one I said I the first time I saw a rabbi paint these same ideas that were helping me in a Jewish terminology and saying the words that that drive that's finding these Avenues to express itself through alcohol or through pornography or through other drugs or or otherwise is actually a deeply spiritual drive it's a drive to connect to I I think what you said in the book was to connect to Hashem to that spiritual completion that someone is looking for that spiritual connection that someone is looking for that's finding a uh a misguided Avenue to express itself yeah and I stole this from that that idea that that addiction is an attempt to get close to God I got that from Carl Jung from the Yung letter to Bill W and then it comes out that Carl y said in an interview really all of my ideas can be found in the teachings of the mag of mezri how Yung said this yeah yeah so the plagiarism you see the cycle of plagiar but it takes us right back to the maged so right right which is uh okay like the story you told me about the uh the guy who goes to some town to dig something up and find out it's under his own stove yeah famous uh story we all come back right sometimes it it takes hearing it from I mean no one opened up a safer mag Asin necessarily saw that right it it took going through that process right but Chase I didn't want to take away from the um meaning the fact that you took it from Carl Young and repeated it it's different when it comes from a rabbi like you understand the yeah it's important yeah of course it's different when it comes from a rabbi and you know I got harass Rec can't destroy the Jewish car can't get rid of the correct so I got harassed recently when I would started talking about trauma so it wasn't bad enough that I spoke about addiction now I spoke about trauma and somebody came to me they said you're the and which is something I'm deeply proud of I I am a and they said you're theb maybe you're going to argue and maybe you even convince me that trauma needs to be spoken about and needs to be spoken about in our circles and the Jewish people need to hear it but why does the have to be the one speaking about it now I'll tell you what I answered and I said there are many different reasons why I believe that not only uh it's okay for me to speak about it but ultimately it's unavoidable that I speak about it and one of them which I hope you'll understand is that if anyone even one person has trauma because they were talking about the subject of trauma has trauma that involves or is associated with someone who looks like me then the beginning of their healing is going to have to involve hearing something compassionate from someone who looks like me exactly thank you Chase I'll tell you something from critics because I know that we' had these conversations and any person who's passionate is also very sensitive to critics and criticism it's like it goes with the territory that's true it goes with the ter it goes to territory I was speaking to to a guy who's you know one of the few people you meet who like what you see is what you get like what he says on the outside is what he feels on the inside and I see how painful like rejection is like anytime he brings up an idea and how it if it's not responded to appropriately it breaks him completely and I said it's I was telling him it's actually a good thing like he sees other people who aren't so sensitive some people are talking and it's just like it's an idea that came from their tongue and came out so what's being rejected is like you know right how personal could I take it yeah or it's a mask it's not them but other people speak from the depths of their soul and then when it when that those words come out and that's rejected it feels like you rejecting my soul so I know is you know you're very passionate person and you're passionate about the subjects that you teach and I guess that also goes along with being sensitive to certain criticism but what I found um especially being involved in some hot button issues in uh in kabad world is that often times our biggest critics can become our biggest fans yeah it's like what they told us on you know when you go to a guy and you say do you want to put on you want put on and he's like I don't know whatever but when the guy says get the you know start yelling at you about it then okay this is my guy I got to work him but this guy is going to be my biggest because he's passionate about my cause so those critics who are talking about trauma God willing we'll get them on board do we see his name in the donation we see his name in the donation there's there's like a ticker scrolling by by the way shamai re refresh the ticker I saw the same names come by a bunch of times shamai you got to refresh the ticker over there I'm seeing the same names coming by you hear me refresh you keep refreshing okay refresh it again and was no I don't see any of the critics yet but God willing God willing okay I I'll reach out to them that's my uh La stay on WE until we hit I think I think his email is asking for a friend 523 so I do have a question for you R Chase yeah because um because I'm spending a lot of time energy and energy on this um kabad Global giving Day by the way do a proper pitch talk about it it's amazing okay soab Global giving day in essence um is bringing together as many kabad organizations not just but as many kabad organizations as possible to do a campaign during the month of December the official launch date of December 8th but it can go through the month of December and our main focus is twofold is a organizations which have never done a campaign before s of Chas would have been in this category only two or three years ago you got me out of that category and and you're part of the inspiration for the campaign because those one-on-one conversations that we had and I had with others to encourage them to do a campaign and I see the power of it I said how can I how can I multiply that by hundreds of people because I don't know all of these people and I'll tell you something amazing mha Kean has a kabad house in um one and a half miles away from my office I didn't know this until Friday he's very close to my office so I don't know him I don't know him personally I've heard His Name a couple times and you know um maybe we've spoken but I'm not involved with this organization anyway he just want a grant from Kad global giving day which I'm I'm going a little bit in circles but he won a grand for kabad Global giving day he was on schas for 20 years and he never did a crowdfunding campaign wow 20 years never did a crowdfunding campaign so what I'm what we're trying to do with this is encourage as many organizations as possible who've never done a campaign to do one or organizations which are doing one to be a part of a large campaign and hopefully energize them to stretch themselves a little bit more because these stretches for example if your goal today was 150 we would have a completely different energy in these conversations you would not have you we would not be trying to get 180 you would not and you likely would not get 180 that goal that's set is so important those stretch goals and then having the energy of myself the many other people who've participated in this campaign the teams it changes the dynamic completely and hopefully we can help many more organizations to to raise to raise money so last year we did a test for kabad Global giving day and 145 or so organizations joined and uh raised about $16 million so this year we said let's do it right so we brought a lot of donors on board de Shelton is is is involved gety felig mentioned George Roar is involved and rman foundation and many others and we put a pool together of money basically paying people to raise money right just saying there's a pot of there's there's a pot of gold in your community and we're going to give you some money or incentives to be a part of this um this this campaign obviously our main incentive is for organizations which have never done a campaign but everyone is welcome to everyone is welcome to join we actually have a specific Grant going on now for organizations have never done a campaign $100,000 earmarked to those organizations and they could apply MAA kman woned $10,000 Grant like that if I'm speaking too quickly kabad globalgiving day.com you can find everything anyway what I want to ask you about is to put yourself in the mindset you were three years ago when we were having these conversations or even two months ago when you were saying I don't know I have the energy to do another campaign takes a lot of energy year yeah yeah yes I was questioning yeah but now right now where you are now sitting sitting where you are now the money you've raised but even more than the money you've raised the hundreds of people who have come out and I I saw some of the notes people are saying like how much it means the you know what you do and the just nice little notes often times people put when they give a $200 donation the $300 donation how much your efforts your work means to them what do what does that do what is that like when you're sitting there now do you still doubt the the work that you put in so actually I was mentioning to Kim last night I told him about the the Alfred Noble story you know the guy uh who who started the Nobel Prize so the story of how he started it is he was wrongly reported dead and the the newspaper wrote his obituary so they wrote Alfred Noble the inventor of dynamite has died and he says well hold on a second this is how I'm going down in history history is the guy invented dynamite to something that destroys people I got to change my legacy so we started the Nobel Prize and now anyone Amazing Story right okay so here's the thing rarely do you get an opportunity in your lifetime to hear your obituary if you do a campaign what happens is you put yourself out there it's a vulnerable position to be in you say basically who likes what I'm doing who cares about it who wants to see it go further enough to actually invest but what happens is you get to find out that what you're doing is actually affecting people you get to see a glimpse of who it's affecting you get to see those names you get to see those comments the comments to me are gold that's why even if somebody donates $2 the fact that they took time they they entered into the credit card they wrote a little comment by the way we just hit 160,000 oh amazing excellent so uh for those who don't know shase and I can speak for hours we can do this I know but we have we have a bunch of people lined up there's someone waiting outside on the but I want you to stay but regarding the pitch here to anyone who's in the public sphere and has touched a lot of people or or or isn't sure I think that's more pertinent you're not even sure how many people have I affected in what way have I affected them How Deeply have I affected them do a campaign you'll find out you'll find out and and there's nothing more in my experience there's nothing that I've done that has been more um reassuring of you're doing good keep doing don't stop do more that's how that's how I feel after every campaign don't stop do more do more and more and more the fact that hundreds of people come out to support what you're doing when often times especially now in today's world it's so virtual you could be sitting in front of you know it's not like you're getting an audience half the time that you can see the the their faces nodding you're talking into a camera so when you have an event like this but you touched on something which I've never heard someone say before and I've had a lot of conversations with people about campaign so I'm going to have to ask you to explain what you meant you said that there's something vulnerable about doing the campaign you find out who supports who doesn't so is when you're saying that is that more vulnerable than when you reach out to a donor for donation I me because you have to raise money in any case so is there something about the campaign that's more vulnerable than a regular ask yeah I mean this goes back to what to what what's private and what's a secret he say something private is something you you choose to share with somebody so if I call Ellie Nash who I know as a friend I know you care about me I know you know what I do and I share with you that I have a budget and I'm trying to reach it okay so I I know that's safe I know that's safe I tell the whole world I'm trying to raise money oh that's how much you think you need right it's it's a vulnerable thing so I'm sharing something with more people right and then I guess right suppose that the campaign flopped and you didn't hit the goal it would be world right I'm trying to dig into the I'm trying to dig into like the vulnerable means there's a risk right so the risk is that the campaign me the risk is just telling people even if it's successful you know it's a oh just going out there and saying that I think I'm worthy of $180,000 campaign exactly right okay interesting but but then there's also the additional risk that if it if you did not get the support from people right then it' be like oh wow people really don't care what I'm doing yeah so that's very that's very so so what would your message be to to somebody who's afraid of taking the plunge this the first Chase how many times I spoken to people about this I heard I'm I'm not sure if it'll work for me I haven't gotten around to it the fees are too much it's too complic at the technology I've heard all of these things yeah but I've never heard someone say this course it's emotionally vulner putting myself vulnerability in doing a campaign doing a public campaign absolutely that's why I encourage that you work with somebody who understands the landscape somebody who knows what's a realistic goal and can push you just to drop Beyond because obviously you don't want to your first time out especially do something that is totally you know out of the out of the realm but uh if you you know charity has always worked very well with me to give me good goals and give me good uh a timeline as far as you know who have have you called your mid-tier people yet have you called you know have you gotten to the point where you have uh the the every everyone who gave last year $180 have you called them and that kind of stuff so I would say if you have a team on your side who's giving you the the the vessels to do it responsibly and realistically then it's definitely worth the the vulnerability it's worth the emotional risk so what was the the so the first year what was your goal I think it was 120 maybe 120 and that was 60 and 60 60 in mattress and 60 I don't remember the breakdown how how we yeah maybe maybe it was and it went to 150 it went to bonus rounds it went to 150 and the second year I think we went straight for 150 maybe we went for 180 and we hit 200 I think last year last year we hit 200 yeah I think we're going to do it again this year thinks we're GNA hit 200 this year yeah no we're we're we're ,000 away and we have someone special here is going to take us all the way home he's very popular here in the five towns neighborhood Ellie maybe tell M the charity whoever tell the charity people to get someone on board to help people with their impostor syndrome and that would mean it's not just about the technicality sh maybe you should consult them on I'm saying if people are afraid of like oh my putting myself out there you want them to do a campaign it's not just it's almost as if everything starts in the emotional Department you got to get people together way people don't really have a practical issue with it they figure out a practical issue with it because they have an emotional resistance whatever the emotional problem there's a practical every practical problem has an emotional solution and reverse right yeah we'll find a problem with you got but so with that risk also it's it makes sense what you're saying because it's because of that risk Right comes the potential reward where all of a sudden you're seeing these messages from people which are telling you your work is so meaningful yeah no risk no reward right so that risk is that I may find out that no one cares about me and the reward is that I may find out that a lot of people care about me that's right and if you have a a good solid team in your corner the the odds of you finding out who actually cares about you is much higher that's correct right if you shot for a $200,000 goal the first year and you only hit 120 or only hit right then you'd feel like hey I put out to the world that I'm worth 200,000 in a crowdfunding campaign and I only came in at 120 so that the expertise is not a a small part of the the equation right yeah that's why you got to have a team very very enlightening for me very very enlightening and if you have anybody who's facing that emotional piece of the puzzle and like uh not sure how to work through it just like you put out your uh email and said anyone want wants to talk to you can email you could you could email Rabbi soulwords dorg I mean anyone can it's a public it's public everyone knows my email address anyways but I'm saying if you're a rabbi or if you're in the public sphere in any way and you're not sure if you should take that risk um putting yourself out there and saying do I have a community that thinks that what I'm doing is worth x amount of dollars so email me at Rabbi souls. org got it do you see this as something that's um like an important part of your organization's budget every year going forward you mean is a a crowdfunding I'm sure technology will change over time maybe one day we'll be sitting with VR headsets and whatever else but some form of uh crowd funing campaign do I Rely to be able you see this as 100% lights on in the studio 100% because I'll tell you what it's done uh I and I've spoken about this a few times uh since we started last night but I'll I'll repeat this the way I first started is I got I think I don't know it's not it's not secret what I think David gave me $10,000 to make my first website before before a campaign I couldn't do anything without without a website because I didn't even have a way of I was giving away my content to everyone else's platform for 15 years 15 years of running around you know publicly speaking and making videos but I didn't have my own platform so I needed to have my own platform to start to actually I had no database I had nothing I didn't even know who my people are so David said here's 10K get started after I did that then okay now I have a database I have some names I have some emails so we do we did our first campaign after the campaign we said oh now make a real website we spent real money we got spot light then we made a real gorgeous state-of-the-art website okay then we made a bigger campaign oh we built the studio you're looking at this is what this these are the fruits of last year so you're saying is it part of my budget yeah because I'm expanding every year and I'm expanding every year because of the campaign so when you Tamp into the energy that's out there from your from your audience you get into a positive Loop where you can keep doing more you keep building keep going to the next level the whole thing is right it's a beautiful virtuous cycle that's created yeah yeah well thank you Ellie could you show everyone your yamaka it's uh on it it's on the right head it's made by IAS so is this one so is this one so is this one this is also I I have the sole words yamaka we're giving to donors who give at the level can't really see it 540 and over Chase if if if we succeeded just in getting donations from the people we gave shout outs to during this iipa Spotlight charity who else do we need D already gave D is a legend by the way amount of organizations this guy helps is incredible yeah Legends so he's so he's already taken care of who else that we mentioned in this I don't know you want to Target some people Carl Young Carl Young Carl Young The Young State the mag I'm sure they have some Royal b or something the mag the mag is already mag promised so that we have that's our biggest donation the biggest donation there you go all right chase a pleasure chatting as well thank you always fun always fun and meaningful take care much success hopefully we can Empower hopefully we can Empower many others the people who on the fence come on join on board it's going to be a beautiful month December it's the uh a lot of money is raised during that that time so please reach out if anyone has any questions kabad giving day at charity.com or support at charity.com ask about the campaign help more people join Shas you asked me if I think you should join right yeah I did I asked you yeah right and I encourage you not to so yeah I I thought that a lot of your supporters were part of the um would would be solicited by other kabad houses also but I don't think that's the case most kabad houses hopefully they get support from their local communities yeah but I'm not saying it's for everyone but if it is for you and you're on the fence Jump On In we want you on board thank you Ellie thanks for everything you do thank you for the work you do thank you thank you thank you for your friendship your support we have a special guest in the studio he been uh patiently waiting uh and I think he's going to take us over the top I hear he's a very very popular man in these parts of town so you got your work cut out for you there's a heavy uh a lot of friedmans a lot of Marcus freedman's Gordon to me they're all sort of one can we get a Gordon nigan how about a little duckshit a duck nigan to introduce our next guest [Music] huh [Music] okay put me on the spot here how you doing y yes are you on put put y on the screen and Gordon sh you're the first guest who came actually to the studio I see that because you're local Five Towns yes yes so uh thank you for joining us pleasure big believer in the cause so uh we're trying to raise money all everything's good yes okay fine this is very unnatural setting for me yeah yeah yeah but you're a public figure you write every week you're outspoken I feel very comfortable behind a computer screen and a keyboard that's where I belong uh my brother who people know Naki is more Gordon is more the uh puts his face out there yeah he's been trying to get me to record a minute for a few years oh really haven't beat I got your face out there before yeah so what's going on good I see that uh we're doing pretty good I haven't been able to check the numbers I haven't yeah how's how are the numbers 92% 92% 92% okay all right this a very beautiful space over here you got everything here has like a uh deeper meaning yeah I mean it was just looking at the niik um cover I'm not such a I'm not so familiar with the nikak albums per se but the uh the the art on the on the cover is a very meaningful piece which one oh this one is that a cover yeah yeah is that the Handel it looks like a hand labor yeah it's it's hanging in my parents home oh really yes my my grandfather my grandparents had it in their home for many years oh that same painting the original yeah the original yeah yeah I don't know if anyone knows who who he is so tell you tell them your credentials five times us times's title editor yeah publisher what's give me your proper title associate editor associate editor sales manager sales manager and outspoken uh journalist journalist yes yes and uh just trying to write on the coiles of my my my grandfather and my my father your grandfather was an illustrious kabad journalist in America he wrote for the algam wrot for yeah yeah yeah and your name Gord your great grandfather of course trying to make something of myself like the maget said to his mother start a new year from me so we're trying to make money over here yeah yeah you want to tell it you want to tell anyone uh I don't know something about Saka about supporting harb got anything for us on little yeah yeah sure so you know what there's a lot of people on the on the internet uh teaching Tyra um and the truth is it's it's a um it's an Endeavor that that could go on on and on but there's something about about you that I think is uh uniquely uh suited for this for this thing because I I don't know if you if you remember but we we I we don't know each other all that long how long you live here in the five towns few years the first time I met you was not even in the five towns where do we oh at a retreat by by by eisenach was that the first time I think the first time I met you was in Conneticut at a Hanukah Retreat it was like seven eight years ago that's true that's true yeah and we learned a Myer together that's true yeah but then subsequently you moved here um I think we met I think maybe it was could have been around that time um and it seems at the time that you had a difficult you had a difficulty wrapping your your brain around promoting yourself in this in this in this way we were talking about before about pemus okay it's tough you know pemus you know mon P yeah so promotion is like it feels fake yeah right superficial yeah so you had to like transcend that that part of yourself I had to figure out how it fits into the pemus you know I was thinking that a lot of what you're doing um taking these deep ideas and like reducing them into like few minute uh you know excerpts it's sort of almost like on a on a small level what the Abisha did in creating the world it's taking these great ideas you know a lot of times people think it's a little bit like you said fake or superficial because you're taking like really deep ideas and you're stripping them down and people who really you know have the patience and the presence of mind to uh to sit and learn tyam kind of feel like like it's like a a cheap way out right but um when you're doing it like you're doing it which is LMA which is just to get the message out um I mean it's essentially it's a right you know I don't know if you I don't know if you're I think that by the is credited as being of the cyers space right but if you if you count all the people that are on the worldwide web do or now Instagram doing what what he started doing I guess your all sub of what he started but um what I was getting at was a lot of people are are operating on on Instagram not even in Tyra in many different they're all involved in self-promotion right and for you it's not about self-promotion it's more about getting a message out so I feel like once you you know I saw I saw an idea recently um from schach um writes has a book out um book outat put out a book On's teachings on KH called the soul of so he um he has an idea there they says that when it came to eating from theas um it was Frau to failure from the beginning because of the way perceived the the the says she was measuring she was reflecting on the tree in the sense of whether it was good or whether if it wasn't good you know anybody who's like projecting their own thoughts or their own feelings on a certain Endeavor is fra to failure from the get-go um there are certain things like the internet that if you're promoting yourself then it's you're already you know behind the eightball the internet is such a big medium it's such a big way of getting a message out that if you're to spoil in any way from The Medium from the from the from the that tool that's getting the message out then you're going to get lost in that in that maze in that quagar um you know so I think with you because you had that that that that um apprehension because you were afraid of you know plunging yourself into that thing you you knew what it represent you were really doing it because of the message not because not not to get your face on on the internet not get not to have more people know you and even this it's a camp this is a campaign obviously you're looking to raise raise to raise a certain amount of money yeah but at the end of the day it's all to further your not your influence as a personality but your influence in in making a difference in people's lives to get the message out there get the message out that's right you know what they say we're doing paradoxes so I mean humility is one of the best ways to improve your bottom line yeah so actually that was an interesting I I I was listening before um you know it's funny it reminds me of a story um my brother-in-law is uh lives in CR High he's barl Hassan is married to a stock uh Benji Stock's daughter so yeah his um my my sister-in-law uh shy stock her grandfather was uh shimi stack yeah everyone know shimi stock from so there's actually a humorous uh video of shimi Stack uh on online you could you could find it on on YouTube or Google where he says that he was by a certain for bringing another reab and he says that he was listening to the rabba speak he says he's not sure why he was listening but but he happened to have been there you know but I was listening before and you were talking about um Paradox right so it's interesting there's a there's a very famous Torah from of brv and on the on the it says so normally we look we think of as a question that they're asking each other where is the place of your glory interprets it much deeper he says that anytime a person reaches a situation in life where he's forced or he's compelled to ask a that's become you know that's that's any anytime you're in a real religious experience God because he's infinite then then it's it's it's almost like an oxymoron but the nature of infinity is not to have one side or another side it's it's it's all it's all inclusive it's all encompassing so then that that that when when when a when a limited finite person enters into a space of infinity they they're compelled to have to ask the question of a right when you think you found it you have it when you're still looking then you may be close you remind me of another the a there's a right so literally it was if I go up in the heavens you're speaking to there you are there right if I make my bed down in the pit the grave here you are so how do what do they explain that if I go up in heaven like I think I'm spiritually flying so high sh there there not here somewhere else I haven't gotten to it but if I know I'm in the pits Kaka here you are you're right here here Ellie Marcus tickling the ivories over here are you is that that's like a perfect musical uh segue right you know this one Ellie W of course I of course I know it it's a goto for soul [Music] words [Music] that's the that's the N we have a bunch of dedications to but this was good I think our only uh guest Five Towns is the guest well no person in person inside inside okay pleasure my pleasure you inaugurated you're doing amazing work and um they should give you the presence of M the wherewith the material means Amen to to to grow and to continue reaching and touching people's lives in a very deep way amen thank you you look different than your what picture very good it's a good look amazing ah do there you go now you got it good friend with your great uncle [Music] Gordon be very Rishi we spoke about rishy di okay we are we are well on our way we are at 94% 94% so um I feel very confident we have some time let's go to some music huh I I I uh people like the yish I thought we'd do another something in Yiddish okay and we are what are you laughing a donation just came in for $36 from my shapin cats oh that's excellent that's uh yeah okay yeah you don't want me to say who that is it's okay all right only cause I care for the cause I'm like I think people would love to know who that is but thank you mhaus MP you're you're one of the sweetest people in my life uh assuming it's the right Misha Pinas either way okay let's do something yish let's do something happy um so I guess we could still do something happy even if it's y yish they do some happy stuff right oh how's that for a paradox a happy Gish song well I gave two could you Ellie you got two uh Paradox cards this one this one really cracked me up because it's so true those guys they're having way too much fun in there and they not their job shamai we got the camera on Ellie oh the camera's turned the other direction it's okay okay uh if only I had a little less potential I could achieve more of my goals that's that is so true in a very interesting way um there's a lot of work you need to do on yourself before you can realize you're fine just the way you are oh that's heavy that's heavy heavy yes yes all right Could you um Robie that that door should be closed cuz we're getting the monitor the audio from the other monitor and all right let's go all right um oh where's that L we have a happy yish song It's a song it's very appropo of a charity campaign yes and it's called right I think I left uh find a nice piano sound [Music] here so let's each do one and we'll go to the other right okay are you start all right I'm going to do make some some modulations in the middle mix it [Music] up [Music] the [Music] part [Music] I [Music] about [Music] where we have to mitz mitz say [Music] you got to support Soul [Music] words I just changed it s PES that's weird huh I thought you skipped no I know know you could you could improvise all of [Music] these [Music] for for you got one [Music] more [Music] my [Music] oh thanks Ellie all right should we go right into another something you it's our first duet yeah another duet we do another yish duet I think there's still some people putting their kids to said how about aabi yes this is this is one of my this is a real favorite of mine actually um actually remember who uh originally told me about this song who was that was Basha denim oh basa shout out to denimes the den beams yes yes I sang this with kii down by my friend he loves this song also it's very popular in their house the family one of the best people in the world I mean yeah the best was just there for uh for some ter [Music] okay [Music] so this is a uh a poem that's set to music written by itk manger and it is a dialogue between a mother and child child wants to break free of the the shackles of the home wants to fly and become its own and in this case the in the metaphor that the child is a bird uh but the mother's looking after the child's welfare but in the process kind of keeps him or her could be anyone um inhibits his ability to fly sometimes love will do that that's what they say if you love something you Let It Go all right you want to start all right we and vague we vague [Music] for [Music] for [Music] y [Music] for [Music] sh it's still you you got it you got it you got [Music] it [Music] for [Music] am yes that is vague thank you thank you Rabbi to what that way if you guys want any make some requests make a donation how request well you said it I got get in trouble every time I do one of these things we do we'll do a 100 bucks $100 donations effective 200 effective 200 effective 200 and we'll do a short song well we give a few bars cuz otherwise yeah a few bars 100 bucks only gives you yeah $500 will get you a full song okay $500 effective a th000 gets you a full song full song of your choice remind me of granted I know it what if they do American Pie you got nine minutes there was a there was a cousin Richard Tucker ruen Tucker right so I think he was brother-in-law brother-in-law of Jan Pierce were they married to Sisters is that that's a story so Jan Pierce and ruin Tucker Richard Tucker they were like in they were sort of like in competition where was Richard Tucker kin good question where Easton Parkway the Jewish Center that did not know so the story is that that Richard Tucker goes to a grocery store and he checks out and he didn't have cash on him so he wanted to pay with a check this is in the old days when he used to pay with a check no one had credit cards right so he pulls out a check and he says I want to write a check now I don't know if you guys remember this but if you write a check you have to have ID because who says you're the person on the check so they said uh you need ID he says I don't have ID they said okay I have a simple way for you to verif ify who you are it says Richard Tucker on the check sing a couple lines and then we'll know that it's you then it'll verify you're Richard Tucker and the price for the grocery is like you know $10 or whatever he says if I sing a couple lines for $10 I'm not Richard duck that's great so Ellie Marcus says $100 effective 200 will get you a couple lines from a song $500 a th000 effective we'll get you a whole song Come On even in this day and age where are you going score a couple lines for 100 bucks we'll do that for soul words stop it I just why because it's a recovery podcast all right let's um all right the we're doing we're doing uh songs your request you got to pay though can I you know that we're at 95% that's what I heard ni and by the way I was upstairs and your schagger meny he's like well in one more percent we'll be at Z and n that's great that's great and I want to mention uh yeah my brother-in-law M's making phone calls upstairs and also um uh Kim Rosen SW they've been here all day making phone calls and yab rabi thank you all together with tyel are are plugging away out the phon so if you get a phone call don't be too surprised and please help us go right over the top I think I noticed some of my daughters making calls that's beautiful yeah yeah and and can we can we try to get one of your daughters on on oh they're more they're more camera shy than maybe eser can tell a joke cuz if I doubt she'll go maybe next year Robie tab's daughters tell jokes better than he does yes and when I say better I mean worse worse but that's better but that's better yeah that's what we go for my wife says is one thing that is the worse it is the better it is and that's dad jokes but the same thing applies uh with this um and oh I want to do can we play the Paradox video please uh play uh uh video four so we're going to forget to get these I I think they they're too good until someone comes on Zoom until we have a song dedication but we do have a bunch of other things to do that's not that's oh do you still have another one Ellie uh how's about this one I'm out we we're going to jump between like problem and solution you know just go back and forth back and forth here I got you a few um surrender to win and like we saw before you gotta it's a true parad you got to give it away if you want to keep it yeah and how about the whole powerless power thing like why why does that always trip people up right somehow you want to talk about it quick quick 30 second version yeah why powerlessness is powerfulness yeah because ultimately there's only one power and that is Hashem and when you rely on your own power you're actually an impediment you're actually getting in your own way so when you realize that you are ultimately powerless then you become an open transparent conduit to something that is ultimately powerful that's it 30 seconds nice and that reminds me about the I wanted to ask you about the hagada the four cups recover which by the way can be yours for a donation of $360 or you how it breaks down $30 a month uh which is three which is SE want to know that really $30 a month is an effective $720 donation $45 a month is an effect of $1,080 donation so that first one will get you the I'm I'm actually learning it by the time we're done tonight I'll I'll know these things if you do $30 a month or you do three $360 at once what the heck what I see a bunch of balloons could we uh could you put the charity screen I don't know what just happened um could you play the the the tote music I don't know what just happened we went from 95 go jump [Music] la [Music] la got a one what happened Ellie and sand just dropped an easy $7,200 whoa yeah whoa Ellie and N Sanderson just dropped an effective $7,200 on the campaign brought us over our goal and into our bonus round we're in bonus round folks that is amazing wow wow that nice totally unexpected that was wild and I'm not now I'm seeing a bunch of bonus matches popping on the screen the toak brothers I see I had them ready in case this happened I was hoping would happen and that there's a hdha there do you have it written there it's flying I got bonus matcher I'm reading order Ellie melik well it's going it goes uh Ellie melik and Toby tabak Lil nishas Elio benman and and KH B and his brother they're twins M tabak should also be there jumping back and forth you could see jumping back and forth I can see between both of them so okay I got to I'll pull it up yeah so there's Ali Andi yes Ali and Mishi and the same dedication because for their parents alal Ali and Toby And Mishi and kri tabak yes that is correct those are our bonus matches and then um wow who's Ali and Sanderson friends of yours there's nothing more Awkward than asking a man who are the people just okay fine where do you where do you get your material by the way I just uh whatever it's just very nice and surprising it's beautiful okay it definely major major charity faux that is yeah okay but we're in bonus rounds yesterday I had a big okay let's go let's let's go to bonus round let's let's let's get crazy we're in the bonus round K we're in the bonus round the toac brothers have the bonus round the what $284 into the bonus round W so so here's the thing about bonus round we're well into the bonus round what is the bonus wait a minute so that means if you have bonus matchers that it's even though it's in bonus round it's still being doubled yes that's the point the topic brothers are doubling us for another I think for another 10K so we're going to 200,000 with with hashem's help w wow okay so all right we're in bonus round tell the people on the phones because that adds a level of hype by the way you still get the gifts so that means we're still giving away the hagas the recovery AAS we're giving away this beautiful soord zakas and you can see that all um well we've said it enough um I would love to do another song but quick first I was going to ask you about this the recovery we talked about Nuance we talked about appreciating context yeah and this so we have you smz on the one hand is that ice cream what do you have [Laughter] there all together as what yeah yeah so you got to find God you can't just look for the botle you gotta go go straight the looking for the god at the bottom of the bottle we that's it oh that's a call back okay fine what were we talking about oh so I'm asking I'm really kind of thrown for a loop I really wasn't expecting yeah no cuz I you're like oh there's a bunch of balloons on my laptop I wasn't sure if you were having a moment or something because remember the other last night you like have a little bit of brain freeze no because of the the you were trying to read the the names the names and you didn't realize every time a new donation come comes in it would like refresh it so I I see I saw you were like having and I was worrying maybe like well it's not that outlandish of thought then you're like oh there's a bunch of balloons on my laptop oh no I'm going to have to to finish this thing on my own would you do that for me would you take me in if I needed to yes sure you put on a white coat yeah okay what are we talking okay okay I'm trying to ask you a question there keep coming in yeah the did anyone sponsor dedication for a song yet from Ellie Marcus let TR Marcus The Impossible Dream the we spoke about like just do it versus slow and steady yeah and we spoke about how sometimes you have to slowly and steady appreciate progress in achieving a certain personal goal versus like why am I not there already and appreciating that time takes time and we learned the mimer once amongst many things you do you do great text I'm usually I'm allergic to text based learning immediate can I can I guess something because I know we learned a mimer in my house once p no no no not P with a different mimer but but the M that I remember that you learned which was on Soul words was a PES Shany mimer you know where I'm going I was very I was blown away because you're like I listen to the it was two or three hours text based and you said I listen to the whole thing I was so that was one of my I want to tell you something my one of my Great accomplishments to get a Yeshiva B to learn a mimer I think I learned that mimer with you uh did we learn that yeah we learned it together oh my goodness oh that's right right after cor you know after the co pandemic my yeah is Marcus gonna come out that's his brother we learned we learned a bunch of together and I learned yeah okay yeah not know that I remember people by what I learned with them that's how I remember TT he wants he's ready to come on said come at 10 got a shout out last night from Demitri yeah he got to meet you turned on to sh right so quickly let's talk about why what what the Rel is because the so again we're talking about this Duality right so do you run away do you jump away from a crisis or do you take it one step at a time how does one know if this is a time to be running or a time to be gently working on progress how often do you hear someone who's like in a crisis and saying well I got to take it what was the procrastination uh stop I think I'm going to stop stop procr inating no I think I'm going to procrastinate and just get it over no I think I'll procrastinate now and get it over that's what it was right yeah yeah so the PES was about P the first Exodus I mean the actual Exodus leaving Egypt was Crisis I mean you're in Egypt you gota Egypt's not a good place you got to get out of there so and PES means jumping do so you got to jump out of there because you're your hair's on fire you got to get out of there and then there's a p a month later when you're safe already you're not in Egypt there's no Taskmaster standing over you so what are you jumping from so the question is I remember we had this discussion everyone knows what is it that like uh pain is the Touchstone of all spiritual growth that when your life is falling apart all of a sudden you dig deep and you find that you're capable of all types of stuff but what about when there's the uh the comfort of life's getting better and I'm not in crisis and you you were saying to me actually I remember that chabas it was Utes kli we spent the chabas together in Miami Beach you and I with Ellie Nash with Ellie Nash who was one of our guests here and one of our matchers and we were talking about falling victim to the the or if you would put it maybe you would say the occupational hazard of of of uh of healing is then you start associating growth with problems all yeah all my dysfunction made me right because at first you resent your dysfunction but then you hold on a second made me who I am and makes me sensitive to others and makes me more Purpose Driven and then you start to get like addicted to the dysfunction you say hold on a second if if I actually become I don't know stable then where will my spiritual growth Go kid in other words is it possible to remain spiritually driven if if you don't have the fire of dysfunction burning under your feet and the answer is you're hesitating no I was taking a Shas to deep breath before saying something profound oh okay you got it down by the way you know one time I wasn't a there was a Badin he came to uh to satmer on P and he was doing a of of the and he imitated his t during davening had certain movements he would do and he would Davin and so this bad was imitating and the satarov was crying so afterwards the bad came to ask M he was you know you know he was afraid that he offended the sov so he said I'm sorry for you know the bad and sov says you don't understand I saw you imitating the way I DAV and it was uncanny it was perfect you did it perfectly so I started to search Within Myself if you're able to do it perfectly as an act I question myself am I doing it as an act oh so if you're able to do my deep side before I didn't mean to do it that way as you asked I I caught I was like well that's the um but yeah what did they um no I'm not going to get that quote right but but are you able to grow when life is stable oh so I was going to say what do you say to that I would say if you think you've experienced change as a result of Crisis you have no idea what type of change can come the the gulf the maybe infinite Gulf between that and change from a place of choice and a place of growth and I I don't know if I'll get it right but I read somewhere Something Beautiful the um yeah it's it's it's non there's no end to it one of the insipid questions that people ask people say there are no bad questions it's not true there are bad questions um doesn't mean the person's bad or foolish for asking a foolish question but some questions are foolish I've asked foolish questions and when I learned they were foolish I stopped asking them one of the anciant questions that people ask about Messiah they say Well when the world will be perfect won't we be bored won't we be bored what what you're you're supposing that Perfection is finite see that's a gus framework that we fixed the problem now we're done once we fix the problem now we have infinite layers of the solution to explore so no we're not going to be bored that's it's a Gess way of thinking mhia comes will be very very excited very interested we be knowing the infinite which is an endless process so like you're saying if you think that spiritual growth um can be facilitated by crisis you're right but you haven't seen the kind of incomparably Greater spiritual growth even that can be precipitated by getting beyond the crisis and what about when um sort of like the push to get to 180 that like that's a push right and then you get to bonus rounds like we already got our goal and yet that could be a greater push yeah but you know what else what cuz I'm going to take it right back to the problem cuz that's what I like to do but I think greater than the impulse or the the temptation of staying stuck in a problem the even greater than that is the resistance to living in the solution once you're not in a crisis I made that sound more complicated than it is yeah that was complicated okay once the problem subsides right you're in msah stage so to speak you know to work on oneself once they're in that point and not manufacturing a new problem in many ways that instinct to do that is even stronger than the Instinct of staying in the problem to begin with does that make sense yeah to find problems where there aren't any yeah it's true meaning the discomfort of things being okay is sometimes more comfortable and more attractive than than the original problem that you then that you resolved yeah true what are you trying to say we you the guy who comes home tells his wife you know what happened the rabbi he gave a speech after doing and he okay you're not going to believe this he said that this this is a guy mesiah coming and he's going to take us all to Israel she's like oh my God what how's that for timing we just finally paid off for the milk cow and we finally fixed the the leak in the roof and now this Masia guys you know what y we have a big abish there he's helped us in many many scrapes in the past I'm sure he'll come through and help us from this guy too they saved us from H he saved us from uh whatever he'll save us from from this mesiah too yeah he'll give us another problem too yeah yeah the GS mentality yeah so what's going on like we ran out of programming the goal no we actually we have Ellie Ellie we got a donation uh dedication what was the dedication you got a dedication oh my friend it's a different can I read a few beautiful dedications that came in it's a different ber donated and he asked for Russian kiss mandlin Ellie um okay I'm to read read some dedications while we're stalling for Ellie to get back Ellie do you know r k mandlin course but how much did he sponsor so he asked for the full song but I don't he gave but it's 200 effective so that's really only a few bars but it's my friend could we push it I don't know he's your friend I don't know are you good for the other 300 you know what I I'll sing as much of the songs of the lyrics I know if I if I somehow remember you know what fine iic I'm going to do the full song and match okay you could go I'll do it right now I'll I'll pay for the other half that's other half it's 300 what' you say 500 an effective 500 could you do the math for me math guy and you put it effective I'll put in the I remember what we said the full song I think he said 500 so I'll come up with the other whatever it is [Music] make sure I know how to play it so I go into it he'll come back to [Music] you why do you start singing it and will catch up with [Music] you [Music] SE seal is for hand [Music] those in Z in [Music] for their [Music] thank you yes thank you wow okay I'm going to put it in but let's read a few more dedications oh we are oh the other half okay there is one more stanza it's like just gave another 50 okay um yeah I wasn't not familiar with that you know that russan mandolin was mentioned in the the reab mentioned this song well he the reab mentioned the my mother pointed this out to me the rebit mentioned the it's in a video um this song is based on an older Yiddish folk lullabi called um y TI is the best and then they made this one later but I think the next stanza he's talking about there little K oh in those little M K it's similar to the other one [Music] yeah yeah similar to the but I think we missed one part right at the end it [Music] goes [Music] so the song the rabbit was said in why is the to close that door door um what it was well [Music] I'm forgetting the best something to that effect it's not as melodic but it's it's very old and the t is the best of SL that's okay we're going to read more uh you want other songs tell those guys this the echo is coming through okay we got more donations coming through uh another small token of appreciation bonus round from a newest fan in pic schlomo oh I think that's our friend who came Thursday night guy came Thursday night that's right a guy came all the way from Bic New Jersey for the Thursday night Charing class what's read his name don't do that to me it's a hard one uh maray that's not hard Mar okay I'm sorry we met Thursday night Misha Shiner $200 thank you for all that you do and teach and uh Anonymous for your Spotify and amazing Soul Maps course you're on Spotify too yeah oh great you any okay um we have can I ask you something by the way yeah CU I we watched a few Clips what's up with your tie selection is it also like the glasses is is it a mood thing and of all the things you know you gave me a hard time when we were trying to clean this place up you had like 30 ties there uh is it a mood thing what what's going on you saying one I wear different ties can we get slacking I want to get a I want to get a zoom in on your tie so first of all you have to understand something uh you want me to go like behind the scenes and yeah give us an insight into the the world of okay so you have to understand first of all that I have a a 20in neck when you when I buy a shirt yeah at Le just I see perked up yeah wow yeah that's a yeah you know what your neck size is Ellie uh no no definitely not 20 not 20 okay okay I want you to share the story but also with someone who's going to be joining us on Zoom okay oh someone's on Zoom continue continue sharing yes talking about the ties continue talking about the ties I'm saying we're going to have a guest who join us in the middle of the story but don't stop 20 in neck so basically regular ties end up what happens is oh you know this Happ that the the short end ends up being like this because right so I actually have to buy extra long ties there's EXT yeah I buy extra long ties so what you saw are you a big and tall shop guy big and tall shop guy so what you saw Kim were a bunch of ties that are regular size ties that I can't they're in the other room I could get them right now wait you you attach two ties together no I buy long ties but what you saw were a pile of ties that I can't wear because they're regular size ties so they were sitting around but those are my old ties that are regular sized and now they're out of circulation just because I I discovered long ties I'm like I'm not going back to having the short end be like that so you were one of those guys with the tie coming up to like here for a long time no I never did that but the short the back part would be very short that's gets annoying which gets annoying right well if you know we I would love to show off some of your ties you want to see some of the ties I mean I I don't wear these ties I have to I have to have a word with these sound guys anyway your ties they on you know where they are they're in the other room okay so I'll talk about something while you're waiting for how's it going Ellie fantastic I'm having a wonderful time here well yeah we're having fun get to practice some uh piano playing it's uh yeah I always enjoy your piano playing thank you remember we did K do Tavis together a few years ago played the piano I never told you the story no what oh my goodness this is a this is a Pearson the Pearson R okay let's hear it my sister comes over uh shabas afternoon Kus is incredible story why isn't Our Guest done yet and hold on wait for the story wait for the story you got to hear this well I think my sister my sister says I met this guy last night at somebody's house Friday night chabas and he says uh your brother saved my life your sister said a guy said your brother well she has a lot of brothers well referring to me but he said you yeah he was in the hospital with covid in Israel he said he couldn't do anything he couldn't eat he couldn't drink he couldn't put on fill in nothing the only thing he could do was hold his phone to his ear and he listened to the nunim that I played at thatav for bring and he said that's what it kept me alive and I just met him about a week ago on Crown Heights we met at uh it was it was very very incredible so because of because of that initiative and uh all the just and then I I I uh the guy who uploaded them to YouTube I didn't we didn't upload it to YouTube that's correct some guy went yeah and he ripped out the songs from the it was like a three and a half hour of he ripped out the songs he uploaded without our permission but I I was I said honestly we we talked about that we we talked about it like should we like report it to like no it's like I know but I know who it is I happen to know him oh you know who uploaded it I no I was fine with it that he did it yeah and so to his credit as well so he also saved the life he gets the assist absolutely absolutely it's just a where's our Zoom guest what's going on Zoom guest is zoom guest is zoom guest is here wait wait before I want do you know about this tie Obsession of rabie tab I you know when I when I tuned in I was wondering which mimer would he be in middle of teaching and turned out to be the time himer which I hadn't learned before I couldn't even get all of them I just took a little a few of them so were you saying these you you I have worn all of these at different times but I don't wear these anymore because they're they're regular siiz ties they're not short ties for me they're short but for a normal person they're regular so I don't wear them they're too short for can I do another one of my annoying uh things if it'll make us money you can okay let's find out who is like that much of a fan that would donate okay let's let's be practical um we're still matching right where we at yeah we're still matching we're still matching bonus round matching where are we at Let's see we have another official to the to the live stream officially 40 minutes but we can go longer if it need be and we're at 183,000 okay so we need whatever we need a lot so um a donation of $100 effective 200 and write tie and you're going to get one of these ties I'm not going to there's too many random colors there's absolutely no sequins it's as if the person who bought this knew nothing about fashion so I I can't say what as if so I I you'll get a tie and you'll be able to wear a tie that you could say you know whose tie this is this is Shay tab's tie it's a ation piece definitely a good starter some circles yeah at some sort of party or I don't know uh okay $100 effective 200 you write TI in the dedication and you'll get a you get a tie K Marcus you got name dropped last night what happened we had Dimitri on and he starts talking about shaben and he said he wanted to learn shaben and he told you and you hooked them up with my classes true story yeah true story story and and and he's not the only one he's just the only one who's been on on your uh on your fundraiser who's told you about it but so many people benefiting from that awesome class what was I missed Ellie's story sorry to make him repeat it but what was the hear Ellie I can't for some reason I'm I'm off uh it's okay stage two um our sister n was at a uh was at a chabas meal um and she met a uh a gentleman from Israel uh originally from France and he was very sick with covid in the hospital for for two or two weeks or so time out time out time out I can't hear you you can't hear me I can't hear you I can't hear for some reason you're cutting out for some reason you're cutting out I'll have to get the story from you on WhatsApp okay but I want to tell shase I want to tell you something behind me I'm looking at these pictures behind me that just happened to be behind me literally just happened to be behind me one of them is a picture of my wife and I outside the mbis Cav and yince there a few years ago that's that's the that one and then there's another picture here where the one right next to it is T shinon Al when there EBA gave a dollar to all the counselors who were going to Ukraine and to Russia it was actually still Russia when we left when we while we were still there it became an independent country um it was August August 19 1991 that was the famous coup it was also the riots and Crown Heights but um ad gave us each a dollar he said and um and why am I mentioning that because the day we were go we were taking the camp toan to the midis C on that day was the coup I remember sitting on the bus in Kiev and they were announcing on the radio so we're listening to Russian radio in the bus with the kids who the new government was okay so the government had been overthrown wait at this point you understood Russian enough to get that uhuh and I was sitting there looking at the kids and some of the parents were joining for the trip and I was just amazed at how like nonchalant they were about this like they their government was just overthrown by a military coup and everybody's just sitting there and I looked at them I said aren't shouldn't you guys be freaking out