PARSHAS ZACHOR WHY IS THE EZRAS NOSHIM FULL – CHIYUV OR HIDDUR? Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner

our ladies and par. So let's begin with a short introduction in the mitzvah of there are three separate mitzvah you take a look in the three separate mitzvah of the mitzvah when it comes to the Number one is Ly Tishk not to forget what Malik did. And like we learned in the gar couple of weeks ago is believe. You don't have to say anything. Just don't forget what I'm did. But it also says which we're going to read this to remember. If you're going to tell me to remember what did is also believe. So it has to be. So we have one one um of the mitzvah one mitzvah a separate mitzvah of not to forget what a malik did to remember what a malik did. And the Gomorrah says to remember the is which brings from the that asks maybe they're both but that's clearly we have a not to forget what a Malik did. We have an assay to remember what a Malik did. And then there's a third mitzvah which that mitzvah is of to actually eliminate. So there are three separate mitzvah. Take a look in the mitzvah. That's the mitzvah. That's the Mia and mitzvah t the first one sorry it was going in order which is the believe not to forget. So we have three mitzvah when it comes to this week. The mitzvah that we're going to be shas which mitzvah will be mim which is clearly >> but also >> it's also a positive command which is also making sure that we're not going to be the >> yeah the really you don't have to have aro the whole mime of reading it you just have to make Sure. But you're right. A good point. By by you're also accomplishing not to be. Very good. Very good. We spoke about then when we learned we spoke about when you're being the do you need a minion? Do you need to say that? So that was a whole she for itself when we learned today's focus is going to be this mitzvah that we're going to be tomorrow. Shabas are ladies included? Why should they not be included? Why not? Why not? So the in the mitzvah of which is the mitzvah that we're going to be tomorrow, the mitzvah the as by all mitzvah. So say of it's only for men from it's only for men not why to go with being that ladies are not included in they don't go They don't they do not go to war. So the mitzvah to of is not for ladies. They don't have to come to shul to listen to to they don't have to go to sh to listen to the cre of clear. However, the min argues he has three questions and we're going to slowly and carefully go through the different questions back and forth to be but the asks he begins by saying let's try to think why should why should ladies not be you want to tell me maybe it's a mitzvah that's not what says but maybe it's a mitz say this is not a mitz. It's true it's t once a year but like the says you can listen to whenever you want. We do it we plug it in but you have to do it once a year because if you do it less than once a year you're going to forget. But it's not a dinit is you have to eat matzah. I mean that's but let's say that's a you have to do it then you don't have to do it in a particular time you have to do it once a year. So whenever you get around to it you you list it's not called so is not. So for that that wouldn't potter ladies from listening to the mitzvah says you know why ladies are potter because they don't go to war. I have a gmorra in that ladies do go to war. What's the gra? The garra says that for a mitzvah I think it's a mandal. The garra says goes out to war. So you want to ladies from because they're not applicable. They're not included in the mitzvah of eliminating a Malik because they don't go to war. The Gmorra says they do go to war. >> Maybe they weren't in that war. Maybe this is specific mitzvah for for Malik. So they should they would have to been involved in that war. The war of Malik. >> Why would why would they not be included? >> No. Why? There's a constant war. There's a constant No, there was a war of them. It's a constant war now. And it's a it's a mitzvah. To eliminate our malik is a mitzvah. Just like when we went in terminate was a mitzvah mitzvah and the garra says that a ladies were included in the war. It's a garra. So what is the saying? Ladies are part because of war because they're not number three. Question number three that the men asks that not that ladies they don't go to war. Okay. But which mitzvah are we talking about over here? We began this year today that there are three mitzvah, three separate mitzvah. One is not to forget. One is a mitzvah to remember. Very good. Like what Yankee said that when you remember you also accomplish the mitzvah of not forgetting the not the and then there's a third mitzvah of to eliminate the go to war. So what does one have to do with the other tomorrow and going to be the mitz of nothing to do with? So even if ladies know they don't go to war we're not talking about the mitzvah of going to war now. We're talking about the what mitzvah are we talking about? We're talking about the mitzvah of remembering what Amalik did. >> Maybe the mitzvah that he could get you to go to >> Gavaldic. We'll get to that momentarily that we'll see it's it's a very big tommo if the mitzvah of is literally connected intertwined with going to about we'll get to that momentarily. Very good. one say >> people attribute um um they connect um this with making noise and and taking away the of of Malik not so much as going to actual battle they're talking about just just taking away their influence and then make making noise and hacking and clucking they consider that >> so you're asking that for >> it's like when you hear people bang >> right >> they're taking away his they're they're like embarrassing him or >> so so what what's your question So then lady that's the >> so he's saying that even is also going to it could be but the mitzvah even if that's what people do and that's the of the mitzvah right that's true but from the mitzvah is to kill so that so just to sum up the three questions we're going to move along now we're going to get back to this se third the the first points out that it's not a mit are so they should be and even if they're not we're not talking about going to war we're talking about going to and shabas morning and listening to the to the why should ladies not be so concludes that ladies are so so far we have the says ladies are part of says, "Ladies, I'm just in the last kasha of the asked that what does it have to do with going to war? Tomorrow's mitzvah is a mitzvah of remembering what a malik did and actually elaborates on that. says that has nothing to do with going to war because the mitzvah mitzvah are going to be even and even if there's no more there's still going to be a mitzvah of to remember. So you see you see that there's a bit of z that's not attached to the mitzvah of so why taka why taka we're going to have to remember what what a malik did why what's the if you learn like you mentioned before that remember what they did you should get so worked up to eliminate a mo we understand to remember why should we stam stam hold the resentment why should we remember what did even that there's no more to to to kill them out. So in Mishn the the brings from the and he says the reason this is a little bit important even for tomorrow when we the mitzvah of remember what they did why should we remember we're going to see soon that is pretty clear the we'll get back to it shortly but he says you know why you should remember you know why you should remember what a malik did not because what they did that they they came and they made trouble but you should remember why am Clius ro was it's because of the and because of the that's why they came and that should be chuva that's what he explains just to understand why these this mitzvah of why why learn to remember maybe you should go and kill them out but even there'll be no more and even Now how he says that you can't be m the mitzvah of mak still these a mitzvah of remembering what's the mitzvah the mitzvah is to remember what a mo did why they did it you know why they came they came because we were we should do chuva should coming out here. Let's go back just for a minute to the second question and then we'll continue on to we'll go through all the questions. The second question was of the that you know we'll already holding the third question and was well what was the third question that has nothing to do with the mitzvah of by itself and even proved it says you're not going to be but In many quite a few, it's pretty clear that the mitzvah of is actually yes to come. Yes to Makia. If you take a look in the Rambam and say Ramitz as well as the Rambad, it's pretty clear how the Ramb explains the mitzvah of day the Ram say also you'll see inside the few lines the obviously they'll read the Just in the by reading it, by saying it. In other words, the should get us so worked up that we're going to want to go and be go with today. >> What' you say? >> Why do we do it today? That's a good question. That's a good sh I'll tell you why we do it today. Because that's for sure. That is for sure that these are of even if you can't do it. The Torah tells us to remember. But if the reason why we have this is so that that's why we do it today even though we can't do it. We can get to it. Let's say I think that's clear 100% even if you can't go but you still the separate also is but it's the same thing as is the same thing one is alive one's one is one is believe you should remember which means you to remember you come to and we spoke about this that is it say you tell your kids but also you should tell your kids what what did and that and that is it should cause us >> what you say 300 that's not doing we still have to do >> so very good So what the saying really that's the back and forth and the says listen it's a separate mitzvah I agree and therefore even that we can't be and is to comely we have something stopping us but we're still we're clearly however ladies that they're not so even this mitzvah If the whole mitzvah was ladies are not included even in the midst of the say even if it's connected but the mitzvah it's actually says it's not connected he says but what does mean to say even tak was showing it is combined but these a separate mitzvah of and that separate mitzvah ladies Just on the note, if it's one mitzvah, if it's two mitzvah, of course it's two mitzvah counted as two mitzvah, but if it's combined, which means that the zak is to m it's interesting to note in inhogamy theam used to announce either him or the gab and the shul before the mitzvah tomorrow, which more or less every they announced the mitzvah. But what he used to announce was is to have in mind. So the asks what are you announcing about? What are you mix? It's a separate mitzvah. We're talking about the mids of not but what we're saying even it's a little because even is to get to okay so the last of the which he asks that it's two separate mitzvah we see it's questionable is it one mitzvah one mitzvah means combined they're not one mitzvah Now we'll go back to to the before going to the second kasha of the to try to be of that kasha. The binan the binyan asks goes on this kasha of which was the second kasha. He asks another says, "What do you tell me?" Right? That was the second of the and therefore they should be asks a different he says you know could be but why should they not be included in the war to help out? Not so much that they should be in the office and they should package the food. He says they should read zer that that should get them worked up to remember what did which then able them to help out of the how what was the mice of purim Esther was a part of the nest a lady and she was part of the nest she may have not gone into mama with a sword but she was part of the mama she was part of the nest so why shouldn't ladies read z to get worked up maybe they're not going to go mama with clay a Zion but they'll be part of it. The nest of Kaneka also was the nest of Kaneka by Yhodus was also a lady. So that's what he asks that the second of the that asks the the second he's asking even if you're going to say that the should still be he also goes like the just real quickly he brings the rush which we spoke about then also the rush on Gomorrah that says that was Mash because of you. So the garra says mitzvah and the rash says you know what the mitzvah is the mitzvah was for zer we brought this if you need a minion you don't need a minion because he was bash is ever it seems like you need a minion the says wait a second why did he have to be masher is evid if ladies and e is the same equivalent to if they're and so why do they have to even without the as So should have a a ladies are not part of mitzvah. >> What do you mean to say? >> And it's not fully part of the same mitzvah. >> Why? If they have mitzvah. So if a lady has the mitzvah, so they also have the mitzvah. >> Not part of He still needs >> he still what? It's only for for when he comes >> that's to get mitzvah but he's he has all the deos what why not he is very good that's what he says why it's not cuz I found that they are found they are it happens to just be that they're not I mean you can't include them in a minion maybe that's what you meant you can't include them in So we have like this very clear we have the says ladies are from the says that ladies are and the bin goes as well that ladies are on this that we said that that and we see we have a kasha that the garra says that they are mama The says that ladies, you know why they're not included in this mitzvah is a mitzvah. What's the mitzvah say? Why is it why is Mrs. So he says because if it comes shabas and you see anal you don't kill an you don't kill on chabas you don't kill on chabas you lost the opportunity if you found an only on chabas >> what says other you can >> yes I don't know maybe I don't know we have to learn separately but one thing is clear it says before we conclude and we make a of all the different we see these if ladies are in the mitzvah of the says they're not the say they're these The third sad the marel disc says I agree that whether if you want to say for whatever reason the if you say the reason is but just like purim we see the ladies and so too in also that however However, then it'll only be says that of in any case let's say wherever you want to use it anyways but is only so ladies or a third either they're not only so let's be makum over here we had some kashes but just to conclude A clear takeaway. If ladies in the midst of par the of the held at ladies theamifer it's an stuck in a baritzvah theam says that ladies are incious and he says that it's different than cre ladies are not The bin which we mentioned before say that ladies but says who holds that lady's a potter but we said ready from the say that lady is a potter in it's a you want to call it a completely nothing to do with this. It's a whole different shu. He speaks about a shila that they wanted to expand the nashim. They wanted to take away from the shul and make the shul smaller and the nashim for the ladies bigger. So he speaks about the mitzvah in the whole cha whole cha but he goes through different mitzvah that are only relevant for men and therefore maybe less ladies come. are less relevant to have a bigger assh and middle of the he says is only for men not for ladies. So maybe it's pretty he said clearly not ladies and also the from readers and he says it never it never was. It never was. The ladies go also the ladies don't go. So we have over here but it is interesting to note I'll quote a few call it more recent that seem to say that the min is yet to go everybody should do whatever their is and for sure if ladies that don't go is 100% yes it's not avid it's the clear he says the he says it's not good. In other words, you have to know do it but it's the chuva is on a side note handles about taking out a safe just for ladies. He doesn't like that. But in the truth he says the ladies go they bring inu that the stipler sent his daughters even the little kids the girls to go listen to to listen to even when they were young to listen to it's brought that Feinstein said that the ladies should go also that nshim should be mahad his rabbit used to go But to know that these are clear if they're not either why they not be but not either because the or maybe because it's a shama have a wonderful shabas. >> Why do we make a brahma?