Parshas Vayakhel: “Electricity” Heavenly Fire - Practical Applications Part 2

this Tower class is brought to you by torahanytime.com ended regarding uh the issue of electricity that we began Wednesday night uh really we cannot say with all honesty we're going to complete the issue it's uh very very vast exhaustive issue we're just going to address one last Point Let's just summarize very briefly give you the executive summary um so to be able to get right into it on um on Wednesday we learned that when electricity came out there are those who are inclined to say perhaps it should be permitted and that namely the Martian the marcham wanted to say based on uh three reasons two of them will mention right now that perhaps electricity even in an incandescent bulb which uh Mr zulkin I called him a few times on Wednesday he explained to me in very clear terms how I could say it over uh hopefully I did it some justice but um the marsham wanted to say why um why perhaps electricity should be permitted number one he said well they didn't have electricity in the mishkan and number two it's not really considered fire because it doesn't actually consume and we address both of these issues from the malama La Jolla and the city as they're number one the fact that it's not in the mishkan so we so we said an amazing siddish that of all the Llama test malachas there's only one molecular Torah specifically talks about and that is which comes to say the if it's not similar to the mishkan you still can't do it that's why the Torah says it explicitly like savaresh that was Advanced by the titular and he says Frank said the same thing and what about the fact that it doesn't burn and consume says it doesn't consume try putting your paper on an electric stove right and you'll see electric oven you'll see how quickly it could burn well if the Kit's not a real fire it doesn't consume stick a fork into the outlet you'll see if it can make a real fire and the only reason it's not consuming is only because of indirect uh atmospheric conditions in other words there's no Oxygen there it's a vacuum right so Mr Zucker explains to me that really the incandescent bulb the filaments is actually hotter than the oven because it's white hot and uh fine but any event it doesn't consume so Sicily as it says in fact it does have the properties of fire it doesn't consume it would be consuming the ability to to burn something orange to burn it can burn and they even said oh what they even said that actually you know they make the case the filament does get slightly burnt that's why eventually it goes out after at least let me talk okay we're just reviewing please that's why eventually after fifteen thousand to twenty thousand hours it goes out you know that's debatable whether it actually consumes or some kind of uh um because of the stress you explained to me of of the light bulb being turned on and off Heating and Cooling that's why it starts to malfunction in any event the consensus of the post-skin is it is Ace now if it is Ace can you do it on YouTube well we know on yums if you're now to start a new Fire on YouTube so you say oh maybe you're not starting a new fire because the electrical current was always there you're just extending it so we said no an electric current by itself is not a fire it's only the incandescent bulb that's a fire and to start it on YouTube probably would be in a sudra bun and a mylet however there are those who made the case that what it's only a grandma it's only a grandma said the following lambdos which is very clear and very important that since the moment you complete the circuit the electric current is waiting right there and goes the second you complete the circuit that's not a grandma but that's an Asia therefore on Shabbos it would be initial director and onion is that was Wednesday sure in a nutshell what we would like to discuss today first I want to tell you a story you know we mentioned the Martian if you read the chuvasana you'll see a lot of things he writes different things that came to him in dreams give me so I have over here a story that Roshan the maggot from you was the grandson of the marsham marsham was remember his name was the magazine was his grandson he writes that he was looking over the notes of his Veda right you know the books the maggots them you know Throne right his grandfather wrote on a letter wrote on a note a paladica dream that he had when he served as RAV in barjan one Friday night but and it was written there the following that he had a dream he was in the basement and they saw in the bedroom he saw in the bezel that there was a young kylo guy in his community that was being judged by the bezen shomala for having been makalo Shabbos oh that this guy was Mahal Chavez and the Marshawn was watching how the best enchilal issued a decree that this guy is so he wakes up in the morning he's very scared he startled he doesn't know should he tell the guy should he not tell the guy about the dream so he decides he's gonna make the following Simmon if this average or this color guy comes over to him after the davening to talk and learning he'll let him know about his dream sure enough the diamond's over everybody's going home and the marsham is sitting there to learn extra he's learning and the color guy comes over to the marsham and he gives the mashama Good Shabbos and says do you have a minute I want to talk to you about something the color guy begins to burst out into better tears he said Rebel last night it was Friday and I was learning the Eon Wrath Arab Shabbos and how they used to learn you know 150 years ago they used to think smoking was healthy then it right so you still they learned with the cigarettes and he got involved in the sugya and the skia comes and he's still he really looks at the clock says he's still smoking he's so depressed he's so he doesn't know what to do he's beside himself he's Michael Shabbos what to do I had a dream last night so then because he starts crying more more burst down to Bitter tears says what should I do how should I do chuva smashem gave him the program for truva the prescription for chuva and Lamesa person lived for a long life but back to the ranch back to the fire over here I don't know I wasn't there he got caught up in the studio blindness I don't know today we're going to discuss another aspect of electricity not the Asia aspect this is the aspect is it's a very new Innovative aspect and this is a famous in look at number 18 in Simon ice Tess now the truth is to be able to do this again properly you need to get into machikas the rambam and the rivid which we'll mention very briefly and that is the ramdam shita is that when you heat up iron at to the point where the iron glows that's a fire even though you'll say but the iron isn't burning is it is it not the iron isn't burning remind me I have to ask you something after the iron isn't burning the rambam says that's havara that's havara the private learns it's not fire it's visual it's cooking so you're heating up a piece of metal until it becomes red hot white hot the rambam learns is havara derived now that is very important because the filament is almost precisely that where you're heating up piece of metal until it becomes white hot that's why many posts said it was Ace because maybe it's not burning but you see from the Rama it may not have to burn just heating up fine but we're not getting into that today what we're getting into ish the paragraph that begins um all right yes but that that's on page number five says yes [Music] using electricity is I believe that tikkon Mana is a subcategory of macabo patish we know one of the malachas and chabases if you have an item that needs one final blow to uh to set it into a completion the final blow of something is Macaba patish so use turning on electrical Appliance now we're not talking about the incandescent bulb because everybody as well they don't make the entity I went to the store on Wednesday to buy an incandescent bulb I wanted a show I was able to go it's not obsolete but basically very hard to find it money away because you're allowing it to have the final touch to work Liz rhymes for it to have the electrical current always so in other words you have a a blender you have a fan so it's a fan a fan is a pole with a battery in it with two things that right with two what what two blades it's missing something what's it missing the operative quality the electrical current accessing or activating electric current is the final blow that gives the product its final touch that's tick on Monas that no not yet not yet no that's to the mark of the patches in other words the clear is 99 working but it's missing one critical ingredient so it's a matter of refer to be effective yeah the first time now look look who he says more than that maybe it's not just macular patches but Karo you've had davar this is it could be you're building something what do you know about building something yeah what am I building basically I'm making a quinoa making a vessel is Binion now there's a rule ain't Binion by Calum which means if you build something on a clean that's not Binion I'm not building something on a clay I'm building the clay what do you mean I'm building the clay but I thought it was 99 functional no I'll make the case it was zero percent functional you have a stick with two blades what percent is working right now without pressing the button zero it's worthless you have a blender with two blades what are you gonna do it's a hat oh 99 well what are you gonna do you're gonna come into that it's a newborn soleno you know Paint It Black it's a new hat it's worthless you turn it on it's alive you built it it's not in other words there's no Binion but Caleb if you put a put a shotgun a clue there's no Binion in Caleb but if you make the clear that's minion an electric appliance without a current is dead like a doorknob dead like a cucumber and death like a cucumber also it's it's nothing you gave it life but kosher King Khan set up so you'll say maybe you make the case but no maybe it's something without listen to this but if it's a clear that's plugged into the wall you ready for this so you want to say if I press the button on my handheld fan that's not Binion but what if I plug the fan into the wall now it's connected to the carca that's not Binion but Caleb that's Binion bakaka that is minion anything attached to a house is that if a painting falls off the wall and Shabbos you can't put it back up why it's Binion bakarca it's attached to the house the house is attached to the wall to the ground says all the wires attached to the house it's like building and something attached to the ground being countries this the rule of there's no building in Caleb doesn't apply it's like it's attached by Nissan Binion mystera you flick on the switch well before flicking on the switch you plug it in that's minion you unplug it that's stera it's plugging it in his opinion I don't have to turn it on well also I would say he's saying if you flick the switch what you're doing is you are building something in other words why building something your light bulb is not working you're you're a ceiling fan is not working by flicking the switch you are adding a part to something right adding a part to something attached to the ground to make it work is didn't you so you're adding a path to something attached to the ground to make it work as opinion now because in the final paragraph invokes a very interesting halacha of why Binion or macabrepatish would apply in this case you'll say what do you mean how could it be Binion I'm not adding anything everything was there already so he says this is similar to winding a watch where the kayadam says you can't wind the watch on Shabbos because it's tick on Mana what do you mean take on Mana I'm not fixing anything it's not broken but you're adding an element an ingredient that makes it functional adding an ingredient to something that makes it functional is the same thing over here adding an ingredient to something that makes it functional is ticon Mana now one of the most critical analysis of this was mentioned Wednesday Fair on electricity called where he addresses this also in the chulus he analyzes this sack of very carefully to the point where wrote two letters wrote back two letters and prints both of these letters in the introduction to chuva yud alefense is trying to explain his opinion of why he believes okay there are a number of elements here number one adding the electrical current is tikkon Mana in other words you're adding an ingredient to make something functional number two Binion why Binion because it's not Binion be Caleb you're being but you're building the clay it's dead without you and if it's attached to the house it's not in Binion but can limits I'm going to addresses all of these issues and I want to read to you certain select Parts I just want to tell you that represent of all areas he's considered a very big Bucky in electricity just they have on your sheet here number 28 rubber value yourself is talking about the hearing aid and he writes how he says yadidi that's very interesting how he gives different titles to different Godzilla there's some Azam and he calls you Didi you know you ever look at a picture of someone's almond you look at him he's your friend right because I know she doesn't call you did he calls him with his tremendous bikias especially in this Indian he showed me clearly how it works so you see where bavadia is saying that he brought it from his almond down to explain to him exactly the operation a mechanism of electricity take a look at number 19. [Applause] a long time ago take a look what he says he says look at number 19. he says after he discusses the rambam and the Rival that we mentioned he says he he's quoting the kazanesh who says it's taken Mana because you're allowing the uh mechanism to work and it's close to Binion Minato like making a clear that's the first quote then he quote he has another quote from from the khazonish look about a third of the way down the first word on the lines are who's finished with quoting says almond you should know the adua said everything the kazanus is saying here is a tremendous that it's taken Mana that it's been in whoever dealt with electricity not let's see Pastor Frank nobody who ever dealt with electricity ever invoked Binion and Sira or tick and Mana says took it even further that if you have an electronic flashlight with no batteries in it [Music] or you have an electric appliance and oh you have a light switch but there's no light plugged in if you turn it on however Mr die rice even though nothing's happening why because you're completing the circuit you're completing this circuit yeah on Tuesday of course man one shot why in other words why the other case you have a flashlight with no battery in it and you press on says no batteries no batteries of course you are why there's no battery there's nothing in there no you're connecting the wires and completing the circuit you still need fuel you still need that you need you need Electric electrical current but you're completing the circuit in other words listen listen you're attaching the two sides you're attaching the two you're building a clay that's now right to have electricity listen to what he says he says he says um even when there's no electricity yet when you press the button you didn't do anything because to be prepared um yeah the circuit is off electricity in there right Con Ed says sorry for the next today there's no electricity so you have no electricity coming into your house if you go over to the switch and you turn it right it was off you turn it on and nothing's happening you're over this is but don't even know electricity is flowing through you don't need without electricity the electricity is making it take on money this is still Binion Hal you're building something and something that's attached to the ground what am I building I'm building a Clee that is now a an appropriate vessel to be able to house the electrical current oh wow yeah yeah not only that says I saw from a great amen's nephew that he on his own says even if it's not attached to electrical current it's Binion says my opinion is H would only say that it's the added electrical current that transforms the vessel from that's the tikkon Mana in other words adding the Electoral current that makes a fan broken and now it's fixed that added aspect that's the Binion that's the Mac of a Panthers right he says listen carefully that's only if you create a new aspect that it appears beforehand it was that and now it's alive so if you have a switch in your hands it's not attached to anything if you if you close that switch are you doing anything what do you mean it's not attached no no you have you you go to the store no they sell switches oh you pick it up and you fix the switch because that is that I would say first of all well it depends it's not attached to anything but he was saying even though it's he was saying even without it being attached but no I would say it's still not a cleat it's still not a clue it's still not a clue to be able to receptive to electricity because it's not even attached to the electricity yet right now you just have to put in the battery here you have to take the thing and you know you have to install it it's not installed yet you wouldn't say it's it's missing it in other words I would say the the yeah yeah it's like a Lego piece yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so it says correct correct and and we don't agree with that he's saying I would not agree that the Khazana should say that correct right now listen to what he says he says he says I feel that if it's not attacked so it's just electricity yet it's not throwing them out it's just only grammar now listen to what he says about this is yeah about the last one line is Ohio tomorrow it was so strange to me to say that to create an electrical current with in an appliance is by now that I wrote him a letter I say you know it's not like boina it's like taking a wick and putting it into oil would anyone say taking a wick and putting it into oil is Binion no of course not right so I feel completing the circuit completing the circuit it's insane it's not Buena what am I building I'm just now allowing the wick to be able to draw fuel that's the analogy he uses or like this let's say like this yeah Mr zulkin help me understand things with the uh analogy of the water so someone uses that imagine you have a sink and from the sink and said instead of it going down into the drain you have uh you have like um a tube the water is going down the tube diagonally down to your bathroom floor so you wanna you know you want to have some fun you're gonna stick your toothbrush into the tube so that the water washes it down to the floor would anybody say you're over any Eastern by sticking your toothbrush into the tube that the water is carrying the toothbrush down no you're just making use of a force that happens to be there so so so completing a circuit is just making use of a force that's already there it's just like water he says it's like using a stream of whatever to cause motion remember you know you stick a cup into a river so that it should flow from here you're not doing anything ah now this is the main argument which almond uses against and I saw written that supposedly this is the argument accepted and why ramusha did not accept and that's the following that any click you want to see it's Binion I have a question for you if you open a door is that soy sauce here you had a woman it just knocks it down no but but you made a hole in your wall it used to be a complete wall now you made a hole in him and the door is open you close it you built the wall why is that an opinion on stera it's will you say it's not a clear it's you can't try getting the door off the hinges you can't do it it's made in a way to open and close it's not building and destroying it was made to open and close that's what it's made for nobody would say by opening a door you're destroying the wall that's what the wall is made for that's why you have hinges on the door and nobody would say it's we're closing the door you're building wall that's what it's made for cesarman opening electricity what is it when you open and close it it's just opening and closing the door it was made to open and close you're not building anything by turning on the appliance you're building the planet Appliance was made that you should flick it on and it was me that you should flick it off he says one second um and he says it's considered something very easy now the argument that I just uh said is not actually in those lines I want to show it to you because that is the main argument of Rochelle nazamin and I want you to be able to see that one second seven seconds not true no no that was the other day yeah you can use a light bulb bottom line is if someone's almond says he doesn't know of any isser of using an electrical Appliance on Travis but he says don't do it but I just want to show you that argument one second ah turn over your sheet he says do it to where it says [Applause] um [Music] [Applause] if you're one second uh the foot on the fifth line six the option if you have a hinge something that has a hinge not only a lot of open and close on a vessel on a cleat but you even let it close on your house how do you let open your window you're still you're making a hole in the wall how do you let it close the window the answer is that's what it's made for to open your window no of course not no not even in Hillcrest even in Hillcrest you could open your window on Travis right even if there's no air of nothing to do with that right surely right so you're allowed to open your window you're allowed to close your window so says the second bottom line he says one second uh excuse me in Calum ET that's only if you make it that it should last for a long time and if it's not made that shall last for a time it's a minion Ri so Shaman is saying a few nikudas number one the same way you'll have to open and close the door on Shabbos you're allowed to open your light switch and close your light switch it's just like a door was made to open and close and and anything that was not made to exist for a long time is not a of temporary opinion so when you turn on the light you're only doing it temporarily the only how we can keep the light on until you go to sleep at night so anyway it's not a binionary and what I heard is that this is a moisture also agreed to that this argument that Binion is is that the remote does not accept however Nish now back to some Diamond just for one more moment he says this is back on page five that eight lines up after I got a short letter from I wrote him another letter and he wrote me back another letter but I did not write him a third letter why because he doesn't agree out of respect and I was afraid of the Khazana he says I am going to bring down for you reader the two letters you should know I'm not arguing with him because if I was afraid to write a third letter when he was alive then I'm even more afraid to write it awesome because so you should know it's not the shot oh I waited till the Nish till he went to the island and now I'm responding you should know no if I had Europe you know and from Zalman was afraid of some of the leaders in Israel should also you know be thinking about that also says I would not write a third letter says and whatever I'm writing now is only the more I write it out foreign but I'll explain it more at length and he says [Applause] it will become clearer now I want you to know sort of addresses of Shama zaman's taina that it's not a permanent minion and he says the following this is in the first letter wrote search by the way because writes how happy he was how it simply he had to get a letter from Shona Zaman he says the following this is in the first letter one two three four five six seven eight lines on the bottom fillet dummy ladles so I have a question if you have a clue if you have a teapot a kettle are you allowed to open the vessel and close the vessel yeah you know you have a teapot it has a cover you yeah yeah the steam company no stop there's no nothing in it you have a pot are you allowed to put a cover on the pad on Chavez if it's them you're not using it you're building You're Building not building but you put it on you take it off you suggest that it's empty that's fine you could use a pad you want to fill up water with them put a pad in that mixer or anything something has a cover you got to cover something a Cleon Shabbos of course why because you're gonna open it you're gonna close that's not Binion it's made to open and close a door is made to open and close says it has an initial electricity is different electricity is not made to open and close electricity is made open the only reason you close it is because you don't want to pay the electric bills electricity is not made to close you say the same thing electricity is made to close what good is your fan when it's not on it's worthless it's dead about water yeah wow turn off the water because you didn't want to pay the water bill otherwise no but water there's no issue with right but the door you don't close the door you close the door now you want to close now you want it open now you want to close now you want to know with electricity it's meant to be on the only reason to keep it off is you don't want the house to burn down you don't want to pay for it but there's not nothing inherent that somebody wants it off unless you say I do want it off I I want to go to sleep I don't want the light on draws a distinction between the door of a house and electricity and therefore he feels bottom line is Binion now this concept of Binion rabbosai Nish would apply to light bulbs but to all electrical appliances and what about yomptuf then jump to fossa sometimes we might have you seen that holding like this because owners would tell them there's no difference between Shabbos and young Binion is also on Shabbos Binion is awesome all these foreign so this is another part of the Binion another another wire in the Circuit of the topic of electricity have a wonderful Shabbos and try to be in the kind the Indian of leisure age you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by torahanytime.com