Parshas Shemos: The Controversy of the Tiferes Yisroel's Account of the Portrait of Moshe Part 1

this tour class is brought to you by torahanytime.com we have a very interesting topic um this afternoon will probably be a many part series about a very controversial story that's brought down in Firestone I'm sure you've heard about it over the years in part I'm sure never like this um there is a somewhat well-known comment that is made in the commentarianism I believe was the talmud of rubikivago and his name was Ruby saw lift shirts the avevesden of Danzig and he's actually cool um going on the line in the mishna toy film that the best doctors they go to the Purgatory I have uh somebody very close to me so when they asked them you know are you going to a good doctor he said I try to avoid the good doctors you know but um the uh the question is what does that mean the best of the doctors go together what about the mediocre ones where do they go uh and what does that mean it sounds like a very critical statement and we know a lot of great people we're doctors the rambam and other great we shine them they're all Physicians what does it mean type should be right from look at him so on that line there's a commentary on the of the Pharisees round he says nearly the eight miners at gennai lorify were not disparaging the doctors we're praising doctors based on something when I found a very beloved thing is when Moses took the Israelites out of Egypt and all the nations trembled the yes they all wondered about this Moses through him all these Miracles were performed Arab King was inspired the years that's like a love and to take a picture of Moses to make a portrait of Moses and to bring it to him foreign for the king and then the king brought his experts for yourself and he asked to his uh to use the art of face reading to read the lines on Moses's forehead and his the creases in his chin and on his cheeks and to try to determine and plummet his personality you know what is his character how is he able to perform all these Miracles he's the great all-time leader let's study leadership from the qualities of myself and all the sages unanimously responded to the king and they said our class upon himself if we need to make a judgment of the character of this great person named will have to tell you he is no good he's arrogant he's money hungry he has no discipline is foreign this person every bad trade that a human could have he has it self I heard the whole world knows is the same way the greatest in humility he likewise excelled in every scene every character trade everybody was shaken but yes everybody sort of excuse himself The Artisan said what do you want for my life I did my best job I I thought I captured him properly and the said look um they put everything on the Artisan they said um in other words The Artisans said these guys are obviously interpreting it wrong they obviously they can't read they can't face read and the face reader says well obviously the guy can't paint you know everybody threw the blame on somebody else but obviously they didn't paint moisture properly the king wanted to know who got it right was it the painter who painted right or was it the face readers who read it right it's another group so he went he traveled from Arabia with his Cavalry and he made it to the Israel Ube when he got there is he took out the picture the yabate and he looked at the picture of it he hit it nail on The Artisan portrayed it was a spitting image his heart skipped a bit but if love is tent he served them tea and crackers he bowed down to him and he related everything that happened is I thought before I saw you maybe the Artisan made a mistake because my face readers who are very proficient in does anybody know what the name of this discipline is physionomy right that's what it's called and that's what he writes over here physio I see that they hit a nail on well it knows to be asking bug to be a must be that my sages they obviously were traitorous to me and they were this is foolish because they fooled me spoke up anything Floyd cane no Artisan good job the physionist nylon gamma says you should know ledge if my nature would not have been what you heard about me I'm no better than a piece of stick kigami menu because the stick also does not have the deficiencies of man meaning if I would be lacking if I would be lacking but Teva according to what you heard about me in other words if it were not true that I am lacking in everything then I'd be like a piece of stick in other words if I would not be arrogant and I would not be money hungry and I and I would not be selfish then also then I would be just a piece of I'd be a table table is also not money hungry it's also not selfish it's table is very nice it holds the gemara that it might be itchy it doesn't scratch it so no you take the gumar and I have to scratch my head no the table is also not self the table also not money hungry you know people put money on the table didn't take it just now right so the I would be like a stick says moisture albino however says Maisha um he says like this Adam if I would be born without deficiency why would God like me um all of the deficiencies and shortcomings I all have every bad quality that's me captured you I said they didn't really get it right I'm much worse than they said but me and my strength with my discipline and my and my um perseverance I overcame for a DC vikavashti of my conqueror then my squelched them until I acquired all good qualities that they became second nature to me that's why I'm honored in heaven in other words says you want to know my nature by Nature I'm arrogant selfish jealous um but I overcame everything in there now I conquered all my bad traits and that's why who I am who I am today the closest the trash as well now we could understand why the good doctors are going to get him why it doesn't say the kosher doctors like it says the kosher butchers I mean that means when we say doesn't mean the good ones type means the ones that think they're good a doctor who thinks he's a good doctor is going to a very hot place why because that means they're so smug and they're so arrogant and they're relying on their yadia and they don't consult with their Associates and on very serious issues and then their great gaiva they don't realize you know what maybe they're making a mistake and someone's life will be on their hands and they're not they don't they're not careful to look it over in their books before they give a prognosis so a doctor who thinks he's a type a doctor who thinks he's a good doctor is going to be very well done yeah okay but at the event we have this story that is printed by the first Israel who's certainly a god of Israel and he's writing very frightening things about Adam they know the greatest man who ever left the question is is this true do we accept this is inaccurate now one thing you should know is he was not the only one to accept this as fact there were some other gadylam who did and one one most notably is in one of the casidos the safer I wrote three Friedman on the Posse he quotes the thrustwell and who says feel that a person could only acquire perfection if he achieves moscullis if he achieves correct attitudes and thoughts however How could a person acquire Perfection by doing physical actions let's say by wearing fill in by putting on cities how will a person acquire slamas but says of sweetheart Friedman the truth is and by doing them he is actually converting physicality to spirituality and this is the great model of Claudia Israel and that's why they're called Adam because they take the Adama and they turn it into Adam and then he says I heard this medrish that somebody drew a picture of maestro Avenue says you got it head on but by doing midsize I transformed it so says likewise by foreign excuse me the olive causes you to forget right the olive causes you to forget and the oil causes you to remember is the remnants to the Torah and the midsize therefore Hashem says meaning just like you transform from bad to good so too shemen zayasayas you take the Zeiss which makes you forget and you turn to sound which helps you remember lahalo is and this is the meaning of Vietnam and says Friedman this is all based on the comments of the trash Israel that moisturabino by Nature had bad character and bad Midas and he overcame it what is in your second line what mushroom would Society because why does he mention the source I found written what he doesn't say where he got it the second question why is it that he personally change it why doesn't get that get etched into his appearance what is it maybe the original way if you personally change it you could change the character but you're not going to change your facial features the facial features are remain the same my brothers I do we believe that this in fact is true and the answer is absolutely not we do not accept this at all it's not accepted this is really I heard this one I heard that one you'd never heard this year I have to hear the share you'll tell me if you still accept it there was a conscious written over 100 years ago the name of the country says Clute Ferris and it was called clotiferas on this piece of the Pharisee swell and the safer clothes had the haskamus of Godly Israel and um also has and if the arguments of the greatest could at least all the time who they summerly reject this if you look in the title page of the safer quilt Ferris he says came to question now which sotoro testifies that he was by Nature a mixture of good and bad um excuse me the Torah says what that moshabbin from the time he was born he included everything that's good this this safer is based on the Posse in the beginning of the parashat says look at number four the woman conceived by Taylor Bane she gave birth to a child she's good now what does the Torah mean that moisturbano was good what is atar trying to say that she saw that he was good says the cloth Ferris which was written by ruchai Mitra arrow in Rappaport the Murat sadek of vilkamir he says when the Torah says kitovu is that he had every dimension of goodness from the time he was born that he had ruaches from the time he was born the shrina was with him from the time he was born he had many miles from the time he was born he was however about 50 years ago one of the good oil and we're not going to take away from this and that is namely the thrust is wrong he copied a segment from the in the end of Mercedes a letter that he found and we don't know who wrote it and there it says that he was a bad cookie when he was born and however says the the author of The clotiferas this printed entry of the terrestrial has two disastrous effects number one because it's it's wrong the Tyra says not like that we're not saying it couldn't have been true it happens to be the Torah says it was wonderful the time he was born and second of all it's Israel it's mavaza at the Pharisee Israel and therefore all the name of our Dar will see who they were were um endorses safer um that this this entry of the first Israel came from some bad Source from some conic and that's why he doesn't want to say where he got it from and that is what this um conscious is based on okay Mario Brothers you'll you'll see for yourself whether you accept whether the evidence uh to show that this is something that we don't believe in you'll you'll see you'll judge for yourself okay but you say as he was born [Applause] maybe everyone except for Maisha why the tour patients it's not his own doing what could you pray well see it's a far cry from someone who's born as the arrogant and selfish why don't you punish made a mistake why would you be punished let's see okay so one of the huskham was given for this safe for clothes Ferris was from anybody know that who knows that who that is tough race who's that rubinowitz the show here in the neighborhood related to the aderis he was by the way was the father-in-law of cook so he gave a huskama to the safer and he also agrees that this this story about the first Israel that the starso brings is shakabakaza so he writes over here um regarding this safer on the number five in the paragraph that begins you want to know my opinion regarding this story he says I'm very happy I found a friend here you did Libya is I always screamed at anybody who quotes it over but America is I don't know why he brought down this comment Mississippi it comes from Christian sources they're all a bunch of he says and now that you're printing the safer that you're finally trying to print the daas against this nonsense from their these swarm well I say yeah you're doing a good thing fine ah now but here's the question is it really shaming my Shabana who's better somebody who was born an angel or somebody who was born with Tendencies for riches and overcameth well let's discuss the following who's better says yeah that was happening everybody likes to say over oh the monkey's probably truly yeah that's one opinion because my click is on my rum and the gamma paskins inside the Gummer is better so to make no nothing against balituva it's just you know yeah they'll be in a good place it's just but but more is better in fact is that it depends what kind of Avera they did a guy who misses my creation at one time and he did chuva maybe he'll be better than Sade Gummer but somebody who's a murderer and he did chuva he's not better than somebody who never murdered no that he can be true we can rely even if you do too well let's say the the or let's say whatever the the doesn't apply for a serious Avers we're not saying you know all the women in the world they did you one time and basketball came out he says basketball now you went to Illinois but there are a lot of people a lot of reviews The Letter gimbal you're a Ravi that doesn't mean you're better than um bottom line it doesn't matter what we think the gamara concludes better but this has nothing to do with it because now the child is nobody ever said mashabin de navera but the question is who's better someone who has Tendencies to do the wrong thing and overcomes it or someone who doesn't have Tendencies for it obviously only has tendency doesn't it so the rambam and the schmeiner program the rambam and the schmeiner program has a famous era because in one place the person that a person shouldn't walk by a trade store and say uh disgusting a person should say I love this I love this food but what can I do my essay whenever the um so that implies it's good to have a tendency to do the wrong thing and overcome it but then around them says does it make sense that it's good to have a tendency I wish I could this guy I want to ring his neck I'm gonna take a deep breath and I'm not gonna kill the guy across the table for me that's how you should walk around I wish I could no so the rambam says as follows things that are are human Vice like selfishness and arrogance and jealousy you should not have a tendency it's not better to have a tendency and overcome it's not better it's better it's better not to let me know it's better not to have a tendency what there's nothing wrong with traif it's only because Hashem sin not to do it so that you should kataka have a tendency for so now we want to know we're talking about moshe's character here we want to know was much Albano born an angel or did he have Tendencies to do bad things so to say he attended to that to do bad things around them says that's not the highest level so you're not doing much of any favors to to promote the story so therefore the Adara says like this episode everybody has me this rice but it's better not to have them in the first place okay but now now we do have a choice oh is it are we doing mushroom a favor to promote the story about some Arab King who hired a portrait and they drew him that really bad Tim is a bulgar and about about no so he says like this is foreign because if he overcame his Tendencies about you was better first of all says that there's it's wrong you know it's it's just a misconception people say about it we don't pass in that way bam is so he says says that's true that's correct nobody argues about that everybody agrees Saudi government is better but this the issue here is not we're not making much until about here we're just discussing what's his inherent character trade um that's if a person sinned and then he overcame it but we're here we're talking about nobody said he did not Vera it is no sheikhas to that sugya this is the sugy of the rambam who's better someone who's koivacious yitzroy or someone who didn't have the atsr okay so bottom line is that the aderas says any favors and he based on the following wants to prove that this story is is made up what's the proof two gemaras this is what the others brings we have one gamara in uh it says Apostles they were righteous from beginning until end that means for the moment they were born until the end of the life they were sadikem so you say Okay nobody's saying Moshe was an assadic the question is just what his nature was and then he brings the tricep to increase us you know it always says moisha before Aaron the test after says that sometimes it always says Shaman before RS one time it says RS first it always says avraham the first one time it says yeah go first it always says Moshe before iron one time it says iron first from here we learn there's schoolam so wait a second from the fact that it says that obviously is not like these malism these that Moshe was bittevara and he overcame his yet Sahara and he he tried to do better so he says like this he says like this first of all if you want to invoke the sugy of who's better outside the gum or or um about chuva so then our own would be the Sade gamor and Maisha will be the balchuva so how could they be equal if you hold the Tada gamer is better then iron is greater if you heard about two of us greater the moisture is great one thing for sure is there's no sheath in the gamara but sadikama is equal to about you but one sheet to the Italian government is about she was better so how could Moshe and iron be equal LMI they're not because they were both Sadiq and gomoram from the time they were born and if they're equal that's not possible because it says good for the time he was born and we see the difference wish you got angry a few times so he says therefore it's made up it's above myself and says the adaras based on my limited knowledge of Torah I do not know any Source in any hazal to this is um and to believe in what this person says he says this matter should be erased and not said and therefore lengthen your days okay so now I just want to show you the title page again of the safer Cult of Ferris look at number nine that he he basically reiterates the fact that it's first Israel um um brings this story and he says it was a terrible sin without a God all unshai shall I say close to them whoever wrote that letter in the first place is the target will get terrible oinish and therefore I try to print a booklet and to approve the that this is a fabrication um but it didn't help because that letter spread across the whole world but my country has had limited uh Limited viewership and readership and therefore I wanted to print it again and he said well I know um and I called it Khalil to Ferris why because it should be a crown to restore the greatness of the words of the ancientness is now you'll say well how could the first Israel have made a mistake so some people want to say well there's a reason that says it let me just show you how foolish it is to think that arishon says it look in the shita makobet says they get it from the shitaram but says the cultivaras it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic on hand okay let's look at the story that's actually found in hours forum to which he says I'm up to number 10. the the clothes um writesh I heard some people say that there's a sharash in the so let me write let me copy over what the the says so you realize sort of how foolish it is he says brings down though somebody sent a picture to another stage show yamaka but physionomy nitman who parts of and he hit it he covered it because he was embarrassed at the end um he said that image was the image of a bad person kid moose say there's nobody like him hemdan who desires money vinayth and an adulterer or villisman a robbery love the one who brought in this in other words somebody sent to a physionomist to read his um the lines of his face and the responded this guy is the biggest ice barf so the servant was embarrassed to send it back to him because he was afraid of what he would say with Charlotte um the one whose picture it was said you're right it's all MS the truth is I'm a bad guy in heart the the yesahara arouses me who's calls us but my stops me from this and that's what holds me back quotes Rebellion okay so what do we have over here there was once a guy who is a good guy and had a bad nature and that's where everybody says oh so we have the story in the reshine yeah that's very credible evidence that's like New York Times evidence what has this got to do with my chabano the fact that the brought once upon a time there was somebody who had a bad picture and overcame it what's that gotta do with my sharpeno if it was a bad mashabana you don't think the systems would have said this is my chabeno the fact that he says means some no-name guy that nobody ever heard of so close is ridiculous to think that because a similar story is brought in the terrorist is brought in the National glasses that that's what we're talking about my Shabana and then he thereby quotes at least a dozen sources and shots that straight up contradict this story which he claims comes from unauthentic sources let's read some of them first ligamara insighted says so what does it mean key type Tanya ramayrimer 's name was type of he was fit to be a navi well why was he fit to be a navi if he was if he was naturally inclined to be annoyed for Isaiah and again what made him fit to be a navi others say who is who foreign now why is the shrina hanging out with this kid who's inclined and destined to be the next you know mobster Sean that means that because the Teva IM the kadusha and the sanctity that's why but it's more than that every single time desire akadash refers to my shop they know look what desire writes I put on the sheet one two three four five six seven at least seven zayaras for your consumption look look at number 13. and these are all quoted by the severeign who's the man Amron proclaimed to be miss David at the two should be muslavik why because it came time for the gula because there during their Union foreign from the kid that was born Le kayama to sustainable in other words desire says the shrina did not cease from the time he was born or look at number 14. ah Tan on the third line is born Hashem was his name on him maybe I don't see a contradiction we could be at the greatness is a human being with normal human Tendencies and that the human came and made me even a greater government again this story is saying that he was more inclined again this story is saying he was more inclined to sin than more than regular people I don't know right and according to the random you're not supposed to be Quinta round on the side of Myla or that's what it says okay look at number 15. if he was an inclined murderer and with every inclined towards sin or how does he have this from the time he's born has no potential doesn't say he was uh you know he had the kayak to have a voice Danny can I have some questions how do you marry someone of his wife but he promised that he's going to give birth control look at number 16. before I formed you in your womb I knew you what does this means this night rally in other words from the timing who came down to this world he was already crowned with spiritual greatness or here's another one look at number 17. we know that by all that Sadiq and when their names appear twice avraham avraham yaakov yaakov shmuel there's a sick in between their names even by Hashem Hashem there's a sick with that Hashem Hashem if you look in the there's the massage is upset because except for Maisha there's no sick ma why taima avraham avram in the end he was whole he didn't start off Hall he had to pass the tennesseed and start off at Sade Gamora Abraham only after his mind started to probe the greatness that everyone was not born uh a Mammon and so desire says that's why there's a sick that the second hour home was not the same as the first avraham I'm from the end of his life was not the album in the beginning of his life yaakov in the beginning he didn't have Yosef in the end Joseph was back he had the skin again shmuel also but moisha there is no sick why because my share was as great at the end of his life the same way as he was in the beginning of his life why that terrorists thank you times my Champion wasn't like avraham that he had to come to it and overcome in the crib is the same moisture says Hashem said oh you watch it therefore you're ready to be a Royalton Club she did pass through tests no there are no tests didn't happen to see on this he did yeah to some degree he's the same ocean now well here's to me the Clincher that if you would have taken a picture of Nintendo then it was born according to the Terrace as well he looked like a bad guy he looked like you know him and and all the people and they want in the post office he looked like a bad cookie says a picture of a Blazer but like him he looked like a Heavenly Angel what Heavenly Angel that's inclined to be an avarian what kind of heavenly are which kind here's another one which is we'll end with this all right we'll probably spend a few weeks on this yeah well we're gonna see which of the Ruby sure leave this can also is shredded this to pieces um but I just thought it was interesting yeah he was a great person also how do you do it okay so here's the last one there's a Zaya in The Idler rabba who says number 20 Omar of shiman kulhu butisha all of the Holy lights that come out to testimony from on high and down here that I could see something that no one was able to see says went up the second time I could see more than anyone saw from The Time Machine went up taxi in the second time here and I see my face shining for like the sun that shines bright the zombies that destined to go out to the world but even my charbainu didn't know his face was shining like we learned this in this morning in the gumara and Baya right the garage arrives what do we see from there that if you give the gemara tried to derive from there if you give your friend a present you don't have to let them know I think tomorrow eventually fell off on that is I'm greater than my shopping because my job didn't realize his face was shining and I do so one second he's greater than maybe we have something over here didn't know so the clothes of her says something he says many want to learn from here foreign but it says it's close first no I'm they're not correct Reddit motion brainer didn't have the authority yeah you're you're not making greater than mostly and it's source of motion didn't know yeah but most of Arena could not detect on his face so he says like that is saying is he's missing that he's not on the madrego of Masha the Ghazal say shraga The Tiara Maya honey a torch in the day it doesn't help it doesn't help to turn on the lights during the daylight and they're from moisture albino he's been shining since he was born from the moment he was born by Terrace was shining um and therefore when his face was shining detect it so he didn't he wasn't margish but the Tana wasn't that's why he was magishing the light ah and also the cloud it has to do what desire kalish means but wait let's we'll conclude with this new um received more and achieved more by themselves the first time what this means is kavana is I was massing more now the moisture then a regular person received in the mid bar by the second time I shove anyone up to RC Night but no way am I music received the first time that much ah so that's shot and now so what do we see from all this so you say the first Israel believed it the bottom line is well says we'll see it's mavour but Kama the camera the problem is not that it's not possible for a person to have bad Tendencies and overcome it it's definitely possible and it's not that it's impossible that some sadikim that we've had maybe had natural tendencies Laura and they overcame it the reason why this is impossible is because some things are impossible when they're false and this is false because I'll say not like him that's it desire says depicted of as it says was born he looked like a Malachi again he didn't look like what it says in some ancient Christian document that he looked like a bad guy will see the whole story is very hard to accept uh we'll see you over the next couple of weeks but uh La Mesa the aderis says that it's a halilah to believe in such a thing and we'll see many other than also uh did not accept this story is you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by torahanytime.com