Parshas Re'eh: Rav Gifter's Chiddush of the Unique Halacha of the "MEISIS"

this torah class is brought to you by torahanytime.com parashat we have the parsha of the mesus someone who seduces another to survive zara and the can discuss what if the mesis the seducer was a relative do not have mercy on him you should bring about his death your hand should be first to kill him presumably this means the one who was seduced the musas needs to come and testify in besden but rabbi kiva asks how can you have a case of a musas someone who was seduced by a relative but the one who is seduced has to testify and isn't he disqualified to testify about his relative and even if there are another two witnesses he is not the baldin so he is a third witness and in that case we should apply the principle nimsa mayhem apostle if one of the witnesses even if he's not needed even if you have another two is found to be a relative then the whole testimony is thrown out surah gifter in the pirkei taro offers the following possibility he cites the ramban the ramban says it's talking to the musas the one who seduced and it's saying do not have mercy on the above-mentioned relation the lord allah don't cover over may hud allah from testifying in bazin the implication of this ramban is that even though in kalatarakula a relative cannot testify here there is a gezera sarcasov that since there is a situation of mesis even by a karaiv one in this area of torah is allowed to testify even against a relative although says of gifter this would be a big hideous it would answer the question of rabbi akivaigar unless what ramban means is that the relative has to come to bezan to bazdan and in the course of his report bazin will try to ascertain if there were witnesses but it doesn't mean he actually testifies even though the language of the ramban is the lord allah which simply means that the relative himself is testifying in dozens so this would be quite a that when it comes to the indian of mesis one would be able to testify against their own relative this is rev gifter's approach to answer the question of rubikiberger wishing everyone a terrific shout out you've just experienced another torah class brought to you by torahanytime.com