Parshas Bereishis: Could Astronauts Have Landed on the Moon? - The Definition of Shamayim

this Tower class is brought to you by torahanytime.com you know it's very interesting when the astronauts landed on the moon for the first time one small step for man so the image was sent around to the whole world and uh yet there were many you then who sort of did not want to believe that such a thing was possible how could human beings go on the moon to post success the gamar even says in the first pack of sukkah like that it seems that human beings are not given the ability to go up to the atmosphere and at that time there's a certain static by the name of review scheinberger this is reported in the safer differing harav and he was in New York and he came to Rubio to discuss this with him how do you uh speak to you then who have a very traditional Viewpoint and um perhaps correctly so that human beings are not authorized in the shamayim so salvation the way he saw it the way he saw it to explain is based on the ramban the ramban in the beginning of parashas voracious says that when it says voracious that the shemaim was created out of one type of matter one type of heuli we know Hashem created the heavens yes was created from a different type of hiuli a different type of and the truth is the Torah doesn't discuss at all the creation of the shemaim for example the Malachi asharis Tara doesn't say when they were created what they were made out of how they were created that's part of the shamaim the Torah doesn't discuss the shemaim the Torah now Zooms in on the arets so everything discussed from here on in be it the theory this is all together eras this is all erets the the the sky as we know it the Sun the moon the stars as we know it is not together the Sun the moon and the stars that's all the RS so people people of course are able to go there and uh the safer reports that this understanding was given over to these and this was something that sat well with them so again this is based on the premise that when the terrorist says encompasses all of uh matter that we are that is relevant to us be it the Earth that we refer to as Arthur be it the sky now this would fit well with what the Torah says on the fourth day about them it says maybe that's what tar goes out of its way that the Maurice what I was troubled by is that is this really the case that the Sun the moon and the stars are in the RS we know we say every day in tehilam in the halalucas and paragraphs hello so clearly the malachim are part of the shaman we say hello clearly is referring to the shamesh and the arrayak and the as the shamayan because then soon so clearly it's clearly when we categorize and the eighths and the taninim and the maim are part of the ores so how could we say that aretz encompasses the Maurice on the other hand according to this understanding of salavechik that the RFS includes the heavens As We Know It This would explain why by the fifth day of creation it says the birds flying on the earth what do you mean on the earth they're flying in the heavens no they're flying in the earth the earth encompasses everything that we know it be it the actual Earth or be it even the heavens nevertheless what's interesting is later on it says so there the birds are considered flying in the heavens um unless you have to say that the term shamayam actually could have one of two meanings in the first posca Mauritius when we talk about shamai of compared to the aretz is in a realm that is uh well beyond us encompasses everything within our realm including The Luminaries however however until him when breaks down the shamaim and Aras into two and he encounter he groups relative to eres the shamaim is the sky as we know it in the past their means the upper Realms uh even Beyond what's in our realm uh so it would seem that the word shamaim could have one of two meanings either the shamayam above the rakia and that is lashem but sometimes just the atmosphere above the RS others asked that how could how is it possible that astronauts landed on the moon we say in Savannah we're not able to touch the moon so how could um astronauts have landed on the moon doesn't seem to be much of a question under normal circumstances when one says killer Savannah it is usually quite impossible to be in contact with the moon this should give us some thought as to what exactly is the precise definition of the shamayam it seems to be a relative word wishing everyone you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by torahanytime.com