0:00 / 0:00
OU Live April 6th Episode 011
43 views
Michelle Shain OU Communal Center for Research Who among us should we be worried for? Rabbi Yoni Rosensweig Rabbi, Netzach Menashe Community What unprecedented steps should we be taking this 3-day Yom Tov to save lives?Rabbi Elimelech Goldberg Founder, Kids Kicking Cancer How do we deal with unprecedented levels of stress, trauma, and loss?
Comments(0)
Transcript
Auto-generated transcript. Not time-synced to the video.
welcome to oh you live my name is rabbi
David Pardo I'm your host tonight we're
actually doing a different kind of
episode we like to keep things light
here and inspiring and uplifting but
it's also important that a three-day hug
is coming up a three-day young Tok at
least here in cool until we're fully
redeemed and macaulay appropriately
three days I've learned that people kind
of think about this time you know the
self isolation in the bucket that they
fall into so I am as little kids so I
really think about isolation in in terms
of working from home and having little
kids run around and keeping them in
school and entertaining fed and those
are the kinds of memes that my friends
are sharing with me but I also know that
people are experiencing this as young
marriage with no kids as older with the
kids out of the house maybe as seniors
and thinking about where the kids and
grandkids are this young token also
about being alone people who are single
are living by themselves maybe with or
maybe not maybe making maybe they've
moved in with their parents maybe they
haven't maybe they can't and I want to
spend an episode thinking about people
in our community and not necessarily our
I live in Fairlawn you know with a lot
of people who are like me I mean our
community in a broader sense people for
whom this three-day Anto for me the the
scariness is thinking of keeping
everyone fed and entertained and making
univille star and staying sane but only
in the colloquial sense thinking about
people for whom this three-day on soap
is scary is frightening and for whom it
really poses an actual risk of death and
suicide and how we can be more mindful
as people who are a little luckier we're
not struggling with the same sort of
demons whether it's an actual clinical
depression or just loneliness how we can
be more mindful and more aware of what's
going on so we have an incredible lineup
tonight talk about this issue from
very different perspectives maybe
there's only one perspective really you
think about it our first yes is dr.
Michelle Shan who is the assistant
director of the oh use communal center
for research center for communal
research with that person dr. Shane
formerly of Brandeis of the common
center and doc how you doing I'm doing
well how are you I am great I'm great so
we we spoke earlier and you you are up
to the center really has been up to some
interesting research lately on on this
entire demographic so could you tell us
more about what this study is sure
absolutely so there's a lot of research
showing that more and better social
relationships improve our health and
lower our risk of disease and even death
and that social isolation has the
opposite effect and this obviously
becomes really important right now with
the closure of schools the closure of
non-essential businesses and all the
stay at home orders in states all around
the country
so what I'd really like to do with you
tonight is explore what we know about
living alone and loneliness in the
Jewish community from a research
perspective and one of the ways we're
gonna do that is we're going to give you
a sneak peak a first look at data from
the OU youth centers Center for communal
researchers first study which we are
tentatively calling
Great Expectations which involves both
interviews and surveys of single men and
women in the Orthodox community I you
know I capacity what is the oh you
Center for communal research I didn't
realize that cool studies are coming out
of your office what is what is that yes
so the oh you a little over a year ago I
started a new department we're calling
ourselves the Center for Camilla
research and we have two missions the
first is to
really support evidence informed
decision-making and policymaking in the
Jewish community by using the tools of
social science to understand who our
community is where they are and what
they need and the second is to evaluate
all you programs and to see what we're
doing very well and where we can improve
to serve the community more in this
study is a study of singles and what was
the was that point we were trying to
understand a couple of things
the main one was what does the marriage
market look like right who are the men
and women who are looking for partners
what do they want what is the experience
of seeking partners like and how does
the experience of being single affect
the relationship with the Jewish
community with a shaman with their
Judaism more broadly and what you find
out or not the whole thing okay so
should be oh yeah yeah share screen okay
all right so I want to get started with
some population numbers as of 2013 there
were about 5.3 million Jewish adults
living in the United States and of those
about 10 percent about 550,000 were
Orthodox 20% of non-orthodox Jews live
alone that's nine hundred seventy nine
thousand people roughly ten percent of
Orthodox Jews live alone that's another
53 thousand people now that gap between
Orthodox and non-orthodox Jews 10
percent versus 20 percent of people
living alone is the most pronounced in
the age group of the 18 to 29 year olds
which is likely result of Orthodox Jews
getting married younger and non-orthodox
Jews staying single for longer this
information we know from the Pew
Research Center's 2013 survey of u.s.
Jews and it's corroborated by Brandeis
University's American Jewish population
project
unfortunately there are too few Orthodox
Jews in a few sample to say very much
about the Orthodox population with
certainty and that's kind of a general
problem in researching the Orthodox
community that our population is so
small relative to the u.s. population as
a whole that it's hard to get reliable
information and that is part of what
prompted the formation of the Center for
communal research and this study so our
first major study was a study of the
single Orthodox men and women
matchmakers and the marriage market in
the Orthodox community in America are
working titles great expectations the
study included in-depth interviews with
single men and women and matchmakers and
community leaders as well as a survey of
singles
so we surveyed users of eight dating
websites and organizations that serve
Orthodox Jews between February 5th and
March 6 so we were lured lucky enough to
get out of the field before the
coronavirus epidemic really started to
change daily life for most people in the
United States we had over 2200 responses
a 12 percent response rate which is
incredible we are so grateful for the
feedback in the enthusiasm of the
Orthodox men and women who participated
in the study so what I'm gonna give you
now is the first kind of public peek at
some of the data we've collected and I
want to use it to illustrate some of the
experiences of people who are living
alone at this time so first of all I
want to note that obviously not all
single Orthodox men and women live alone
right of those who completed our survey
29% we're actually living alone with
most of the rest living with their
parents or living with roommates I want
to explore before I go further into the
quantitative data some of the feelings
of loneliness in the single Orthodox
population and how those feelings were
expressed by the respondents themselves
I'm going to bring you some verbatim
quotes from a quest
an open-ended question at the end of the
survey what do you want Jewish communal
policymakers to know about your
experiences as a single Orthodox Jewish
adult so here we're asking people to
tell us what do you want the community
to hear and here are some of the
responses we got about loneliness
Singles are pressured and pitied and
we're always told we're not enough there
isn't enough gays who got there it can
be a very lonely time a lot more people
than you think
are struggling with loneliness and
isolation it's lonely aggravating and
feels hopeless often when you're
actually in it but many singles are so
sad from the constant beat downs their
self-esteem is taken that they might not
feel comfortable asking for help and
talking about it more but this is one of
the most trying and embarrassing times
in our life we lose a sense of purpose
and don't really know why we're on this
planet there's no way to explain the
thousands of times were discounted
rejected overlooked while trying to find
our own purpose and meaning in life the
combination is terrible and really can
destroy anyone that's really
heartbreaking it really was and I
thought it was really important to start
with some of the voices before we looked
at some of these charts and now I want
to move on to some of the quantitative
data so we asked people how often they
feel that if they lack companionship
that they're left out and they're
isolated from others remember all of
this data was collected before the
corona virus outbreak so this is sort of
a baseline right we're not talking about
what people are feeling at this moment
and even then we saw pretty high levels
of loneliness amongst Ingalls 44% saying
that they often feel like they lack
companionship so what I did was I took
these three questions and I combined
them into a loneliness score that goes
from zero to six so if you said hardly
ever or never to all three of these
questions then you would be a zero on
that scale and if you said off into all
the questions you would be a six right
and everybody else sort of spreads out
between those two ends of the spectrum
and I'm going to use that index to
figure out the characteristics of the
people
who are the loneliness loneliest my
hypothesis going into this analysis was
that the strongest predictor of feeling
lonely would be living alone
and that's why I chose this topic for
this time during the corona virus
outbreak expected that it was the people
who didn't share their physical homes
with someone else who were gonna feel
the loneliest turns out I was wrong so
in a regression model living alone was
actually not a significant predictor of
feeling lonely the strongest predictors
of feeling lonely were age and sex
so feelings of loneliness seemed to
increase from the early 20s through the
early 40s and then drop again a little
bit and single men are lonelier than
single women thinking about single men
and single women something else that was
interesting was that single men are also
much more likely than single women to
strongly agree that their lives would be
fuller and happier if they were married
rather than single and while most people
disagree most single people disagree
that a loveless marriage is better than
no marriage men were more likely than
women to agree with that statement 10%
of men agree that they would rather be
in a loveless marriage than in no
marriage all compared to only 4% of the
women I know some of you have probably
heard of the Framingham Heart Study
it's a longitudinal study that started
in 1948 with about 5,000 people who were
living in Framingham mass and
researchers have followed them and their
children and their grandchildren ever
since it's an outstanding project and
most of what we know about heart disease
actually comes from this study that's
why it's called the Framingham Heart
Study and one really interesting finding
from the children of that original
cohort is that unmarried men had a 54
percent higher risk of coronary heart
disease or deaths over a 10-year period
compared to married men
whereas for women marital status didn't
seem to have any effect at all we also
know from this study and from others
that the suicide rate for men is much
higher than for women and for unmarried
men
much higher than for married men and I
brought you the national numbers from
2005 on the right there is tons and tons
more general research that shows that
the negative health impact of social
isolation is larger for men and for
women I mean just because we're running
low on time I just want to I so I I
thought that was really fascinating in
that you would have expected I don't
know what you would have expected but
the people that we should be most
worried about are people living alone
which is not everybody we can take the
for granted and young men are at most at
risk for loneliness and I'm gonna assume
loneliness is correlating with
everything else that we're worried about
absolutely you know it seems that men
have a harder time creating and
sustaining emotionally intimate
relationships apart from having a spouse
or romantic partner whereas women are
generally able to get more of their
emotional needs met by their female
friends that's that's a that's a Goering
what what should people know what do you
like then we should do the rest of the
study
it's another time what should people
take away from this presentation I want
to leave you with three thoughts the
first one is social connection emotional
intimacy these things are essential to
our physical and our mental well-being
right men who live alone who aren't
married they struggle more with that
social isolation than women in the same
situation and women who live alone
aren't married so please I'm asking
everybody who's watching this tonight do
what you can to connect with the members
of your community who are living alone
right now and especially with the men
who don't have partners right who might
be having more trouble even than some of
the women who have partners reaching out
and asking for that help
that was one was three well those were
sort of oh sorry can I show you the
photo and I love I love pictures okay so
as part of our study we ran a photo
contest we invited single Orthodox Jews
to submit an original photo that
reflected their lives as a single
Orthodox Jew this was the winning
submission chosen by our three judges
and the photographer himself titled the
photo and wrote the caption he called it
a shovel I find and he wrote saying Isha
Pilate dinner joined only by his
reflection the table is sparsely adorned
married friends own fancy things kiddush
cups challah covers candlesticks being
single you make do with tin foil
candlesticks and napkin challah covers
and I thought that the image really
beautifully captured that reality and is
also a nice image for us to carry in our
mind thinking about pass off thinking
about Seder thinking about what our
table looks like what the tables of
others in our community it might look
like right now and what we can do to
make people feel less alone that's an
important message and thank you for
sharing without dr. Shane and God will
have you on another time thank you
hard coccynelle you are on oh you live
my name is rabbi david Pardo we're doing
a special episode on vulnerable
populations and the upcoming three-day
hug oh you live is a nightly program and
always looking for feedback oh you live
at Oh you org our next guest is rabbi
yoni rosensweig however Rosen's like are
you all right I'm great I mean I'm you
know as good as anyone else I think oh
yeah
power-efficient can't complain so rosin
like you are you're the rub of a
community in Beit Shemesh
you are you're a teacher you teach in a
couple I think different issue both and
but also when I was trying to think of
rabbis that I know who speak eloquently
and frequently on a topic of mental
health I immediately thought of you I
wanted my first question to you is why
did that happen to me meaning how did
you become this how did he become this
outspoken advocate for mental health and
Aloha in short because I know this is
not the main point here about three
years ago me as a community rabbi I
perceived questions over the years but
about three years ago I realized that
when people ask me questions about
mental health there is nowhere to turn
meaning you can always ask another rabbi
but in terms of written material I'm not
saying I'm the first one to I've ever
written on the subject but there's an
article here an article there there's
really not anything that's been
collected or clearly put together and
therefore I started learning once a week
with a friend of mine a psychiatrist
about these topics I started you know
reading the DSM and other books that
have to do with mental health just to
understand the world that we're talking
about and what we're discussing and at
the same time learning on my own the
hallux of it from the stickers and the
Gemara through the different opinions in
order to gain an understanding of what
this world looks like and what's still
missing and I found that there's a lot
missing you know in terms of you know
answers a logic specifically in Halawa I
love it responses and you know solutions
for things that people go through and so
I started writing a book on the subject
that was three years ago and I finished
I mean I've been published but I
finished more or less writing it about
four or five months ago and then after I
finished writing my own understandings I
started going around to the post Kim to
start asking them
you know what they know what they
understand and I found that many of them
were very open to hear about you know
the problems that I was raising and
trying to find solutions although at the
same time many of them were still
relatively unaware of how to deal with
this topic meaning I found that it was
new to them as well
and there's a real dearth meaning I mean
I'm reverser Weis has written a lot on
on things like OCD and various mental
health issues and over it's called
zilberstein and was one of the first
really - right to vote is that is that
changing is that I mean this is a
conversation a lot I think in in the
rabbinate about awareness around mental
health issues but in a sock way besides
rubbish or in rivets silverstein is
that right so the right move it's like
zilberstein I think has written the most
that I'm aware of and I searched far and
wide you know to find anything that was
written on this subject I think out of
everyone that I know but on trophies the
one who is dealt with it the most he's
got with it in writing the most okay
that's for sure okay reverse revised I
mean I I was off had to sit with him
between ten and fifteen times you know
about issues of mental health and yes
he's written about OCD but and it's not
to take away from robochav highs of
course but so have many in other words
there are certain topics in mental
health that are relatively let's call
them popular so obviously is one of them
it's relatively early that the post can
discuss OCD but there are others that
are popular so to speak once again in
quotation marks but that are popular in
in let's call them in in in our public
discussions but logically there's very
little like depression you know which is
something that is known yeah and
something that people know about but how
should depression be discussed or dealt
with in terms of keeping Shabbos in
terms of all look around you know you
won't find much you know if any that is
written you know on the subject I asked
many post I'm gonna grab some very
interesting answers about these topics
and after I felt you know if the tutu
half years that I felt like I was really
swimming in the in the material I also
felt comfortable to start posting on
Facebook about these issues and start
discussing them and I found that there
was a tremendous response from the
community and that's why I think why
people know that I deal with it is
because I'm one of the only ones that's
you know as a rabbi at least that writes
about it and writes about the illogic
ramifications and implications of these
things and I'm not blaming other rappers
I'm really not because I understand why
they feel that the field is very very
vague and they can't how could they say
anything clear about this field you know
that that's the problem here for rub on
him and that's why they don't deal with
it so much and I can tell you from
experience when you when you ask any any
therapist any question right so the
first answer they always give you is
called me credit GU for every case is
different
yeah so never it's for a Rabb who always
wants to define things in very very
clear terms it's very difficult to work
with that you know what am I supposed to
do that if every case is different and I
suppose to actually go case by case so
the answer is to some extent yes you are
supposed to go case by case but the
challenge of writing the book that I
have written is was it indeed to try and
create a new language for Halawa to deal
with mental health issues so the
depression because depression I guess is
not attractive to write about but it's
also very clear I really wonder how many
people it's part of it I you know a
layman's perspective not the revit part
the psychology part but the line between
I'm very sad and I'm colloquially
depressed and I'm clinically depressed
it's short of an actual clinical
diagnosis is is very blurry I think for
a lot of people so and I'm also just
really I I read a I print out a lot of
stuff before Shabbat or this blog post
by someone in our lobby who who wrote
that we're gonna have he's he's scared
that he's gonna open his computer after
Shabbat and see how many people
committed suicide classify Lila
and so it's very real they're very real
implications when we talk about people
now - its Israel on the other hand
Haddie
how are people who don't know that
they're depressed just feel very sad how
are they supposed to know you listen if
if I like you know cut my hand off backs
and I know okay now I'm gonna become a
flesh tone but that's physical with
emotional stuff mental stuff how am I
supposed to know when I have crossed the
line and am I supposed to know that for
someone else for a friend of mine very
very difficult to know you're right so
obviously everything I'm gonna say now
is you know to try to give an idea of
how I would tackle this okay I don't
want anyone to think that this is a you
know like a clear a clear-cut sock in
one way or another but there's a hollow
lomasa and of course so first of all the
question that you asked me is the
question that Professor Vice asked me
the first time I raised it with him
about the question of someone you know
who is depressed can listen to music on
Shabbat can enlist can they write in the
diary on Shabbat can they you know can
they play music like on a piano on
Shabbat you know what can they do can
they can they go on their phone on
Shabbat what can they what is it what is
okay to do and robot replies you know
said to me you know it's not that I this
is how he said he said it's not that I
don't believe that mental health is
important or that I don't believe that
people are mentally ill I believe that I
just don't know how to define it you
know and that's what you said to me just
now as well you know rightfully so you
know what's the difference like I woke
up in the morning I was a little bit sad
I was a little bit blue so I feel like
you know does that make me automatically
sick you know the problem is that
everything here is internal there are no
biological markers that we can pinpoint
directly to say oh this individual you
know has such such as such and such and
that's really the issue and the call me
credit go for that I mentioned before is
exactly a you know symbolic of that you
know it's it's it's indicative of that
you know that we don't know every day
it's so different so how could we really
really know okay so let me let me start
off and one thing I make it short
because of the time constraints I don't
want to be overbearing here but the the
the factors that we can
definitely use our functional
consequences okay and that's that's a
very important point okay if we see
functional consequences so the
individual is depressed
what is it depressed he's just feeling
bad well he can't get up you know out of
bed for work he can't go to you know sim
house he can't go to important things he
can make his own breakfast I mean it
doesn't it to be all these things to
some of these things meaning our is he
functionally affected by the depression
that he says he feels so yes the the
issue is internal but it affects
outwardly does it really matter whether
the whether the external consequences
are caused by something with biological
markers of physical disease or by
something that is mental either way the
person is deprived of certain basic
functions and therefore from that
perspective we can't apply Halla cause
of whole issue yes but whole issue and
was like Anna you know etc etc and try
and see how we translate that into
something practical however it is true
and this is when I thought more about
the personal feeling of the individual
it is true that we can't always see that
and the person doesn't always feel that
that question we also want to catch it
before it happens right we want to make
sure that the person doesn't deteriorate
to that stage we don't want to only
catch it at that stage that's part of
the challenge here that you mentioned
about waking up the next morning after
fog and finding that people did such and
such and such because the rabbi's didn't
allow you know to do so and so and are
we only allowing for someone who has
been you know like clinically diagnosed
by a licensed psychiatrist or are we
saying to people look you know you have
to watch yourself and if you know that
you might deteriorate you know you know
what do we do in terms of those
situations and the elderly certainly are
in that situation and once again I'm
kind of like zooming through this you
know considering the fact that right the
elderly are definitely in even those
were not diagnosed hit with depression
their morbidity is certainly heightened
and why because what is how depression
caused caused by isolation which they
are caused by lack of mobility which
they are even if not physically but they
cannot go anywhere caused by being faced
with your own mortality people on the
new saying day in and day out how you
know those people are gonna die if they
get the coronavirus and
and that possibly friends or family you
know who have already passed the
coronavirus I mean in those situations
who wouldn't be stressed who wouldn't be
in a situation with a heightened
possibility of gaining of getting
depression so taking all that and coming
to our conclusion right I would say you
know people the way to tell the
difference between whether you're
depressed in a more significant way or
whether you're just having a bad day
you're having the Blues also it has to
do with how quickly you can get control
of yourself here's what we don't
understand about depression people say
oh just be happy just you know think
think of the bright side you know life
think about about the good things in
your life it's not like that see
just like your person person who's
really sick if it's a physical illness
it's not just gonna be in their head
right they can't just like make it go
away you I have a fever thinking that I
don't is not gonna help it's the same
thing with depression person who's
depressed it's not just oh just think
positively it's not like that
they can't make it go away they can't
control it it's not something that they
have an ability to control without help
no external help if it's medication or
is it therapy or whatever it is but they
do need the help in order to control
whatever is going on inside their head
and that's a major difference anyone
who's going through that knows that
they're going through that
sorry I can't hear you I made it myself
practically someone who let's say listen
people who are watching the show who are
starting to wake up to the fact that
they might be more depressed and they
realized that that's important what
about people who are watching the show
and you know you shouldn't be
psychoanalyzing your friends or
diagnosing your friends it's not a good
thing but people who know that they have
friends loved ones who are depressed
what should their takeaways be we think
that their friends are depressed friend
family yeah again doesn't have to be
young to be old right right you're right
I mean these things definitely need to
be we need to be aware of them right
that's that's the problem there's a lack
of awareness there's a stigma also
people hide the fact that they are sick
they don't want to be you know pitied in
this way it's like oh you're you're
depressed you know like people don't
don't treat those people the right way
we don't there's a stigma within our
communities not just ours not just
religion religion also outside of
religious communities you know and
therefore people are ashamed to admit
you know that that they have this
therefore they hide it and they don't
tell anyone so we have to be vigilant to
see what's going on with the individual
and to always be asking after them we
can't always diagnose obviously we can't
know for sure we have to notice whether
there's a significant deterioration and
ask after the after the individuals and
show them that we're interested in them
and their problems so that is
significant in order for the person to
come forward can i really give a clear
indication for a person look if they're
if they're really disinterested
disinterested in life you know and all
and all regular functions meaning
there's a deterioration in terms of like
I said getting out of bed being
interested in doing anything certainly
if there's something suicidal going on
without that but I'm saying even before
that you know if there's a general lack
of interest in in anything that that
implies vitality then I would say that
you know we have a definite problem over
here and one should be hyper vigilant
you know for such an individual once
again you really can't diagnose and know
for sure unless something significant
has occurred that is
shonali apparent otherwise it's just
it's just guessing and maybe the art is
having a bad day or even a bad week you
know that could definitely occur like I
said in in these days when people were
talking about you know whether you
should zoom in for Seder or not you know
from before hog leave the zoom on and
all that discussion so you know what I
was telling people was I mean the person
that you know who's isolated who's in
etc etc I mean have you seen a
deterioration and their mood lately have
you seen what's been going on with them
is there something that you know
specifically makes you you know worried
afraid you know that something is going
on or are they generally upbeat in a
good mood you know etc they seem like a
dream or less the same things I mean
what what is it if there's something
wrong there if there's something that's
happening over there definitely I would
say there's something to be worried
about and maybe yes maybe zooming in for
the Seder you know is the way to go
otherwise you know not necessarily
people so I'll just have you know like
or there okay there okay so you have to
be vigilant it's hard to give a clear a
clear guideline ruins by order can
people find you online or find the safer
well I haven't printed it yet published
yet but I'm on Facebook and if you want
my email it's Ravi only a gmail that's
pretty easy Rav why you and I are
gmail.com so you know that's lucky that
you got it soon enough that's right
thank you so much for taking the time
out to speak with us thank you no no you
live my name is rabbi David Pardo we're
doing a special segment on vulnerable
populations and mental health and coping
with white what might be a very
difficult time for those of us tuning in
or those that we know I'd like to
introduce my next guest is rabbi Ellie
Miller
Goldberg known affectionately as rabbi G
who is the founder of kiss kickin cancer
rabbi Goldberg
the link
Nicolle drag your screen is black
see myself so I hear you don't don't see
you ain't it looks like I'm getting
decent bandwidth let me move to my
office maybe maybe the bandwidth is
better oh there you go
that's you that's weird video just kinda
like no it was probably a bandwidth
issue right would have imagined like a
frozen screen first before you know
nothing and then something
it's a zoom issue of making sure that
there's enough bandwidth yeah
well zoom super-clown they've really
exploded overnight went from 10 million
users to 200 million users very dapper
rabbi and I Goldberg you are the founder
of kids cooking cancer can you tell us
why on how what is what is cooking
cancer and why'd you started kicking
cancer began 21 years ago but the first
inspiration for me was our daughter of
blessed memory when I was ready for
university in Los Angeles our first
child was diagnosed with leukemia at a
time that it wasn't the very treatable
children's illness that it is today - is
an amazing little hero at two years old
she told the docs at UCLA no medication
tonight please and tell the
five-year-old kids in the clinic not to
cry a number of years after she passed
away I found myself directing cam
simplify lifeline and an extraordinary
place and I came upon a five year old
child in the infirmary he was having his
port access in his chest was
chemotherapy I'm also clinical assistant
professor in Pediatrics so I teach the
the science side of this
in the old days we used to teach in
medical school that if a person is
experiencing pain there's a pain center
in the brain
today we know it's not true it's old nor
matrix which means if they're angry
they're afraid they're despondent
there's no purpose for what they're
going through the nociception actual
pain message goes up so I walk in on the
scene this child is being held down and
nurse has a large syringe to plunge into
his chest it was so counterintuitive he
was screaming so loud I just yelled wait
and they all stopped even the kids
stopped screaming and they looked at man
I have a clue what I was going to say
next and I just told the nurses give me
five minutes with this child and they're
happy to leave the child looked at me
like I was the governor I just stayed
his execution and I approached this
child and they say no I'm a black belt
which doesn't mean anything to a little
kid so Wow they said you want me to
teach you some karate you almost jumped
off the table
explains when the martial arts you
learned that pain is a message you don't
have to listen to you can breathe in
this amazing Chi this energy this light
from hashem is credible power from God
and push out the pain watch me if I'm
going to say they were doing a simple
Taichi breathing technique 20 minutes
later they pulled the needle out they
looked at the nurse and he said did you
do it yet so we began with 10 kids and
children Hospital in Michigan and now we
have a goal of reaching and lowering the
pain of 1 million children by 2025 we're
currently in 19 stitute in 8 countries
and growing
that's amazing so we are we're now
exploring adults looking at this
three-day Yom Tov with some trepidation
either because they're alone or because
they're depressed some way and not
knowing you know how they're gonna cope
with so what are things that either
people who are feeling that way right
now and watching or people who know
people who feel that way and are
watching what are the messages that they
can learn from your children well let me
make a deal for your listeners and for
your viewers the three words that we use
in kids getting cancer and now we're
dealing with children all different
things all over the globe power piece
purpose that you could breathe in this
light and push out pain fear and anger
lowering your stress we ask the kids
what you're purposely out to teach the
world so we bring our kids to teach
adults how to do this and so literally
we have heroin addicts who are learning
from the children how to take control
and use this brown stuff to lower their
stress but there's a message of power
peace purpose that really is so
appropriate for this time of K loads of
freedom and liberation because the
ultimate liberation is from ourselves
and we have this ongoing stress and the
challenges that those stress creates
realizing that there's a purpose to the
moment notice it the group called the
optimists and they're like the Lions the
Rotary Club they're really a group
called the awesome optimist is probably
a group called the pessimists those are
optimists with experience but the
optimists were making this great party
for us and one of our kids an 11 year
old boy named Bernard actually was a
week before his 11th birthday so he has
his twin sister Brittany push them to
the front and they're his little
wheelchair he says in a loud voice yes
for the microphone which they were kind
enough to give him an alarm it said hi
my name is Bernard into that moment
about 400 people milling around the
auditorium they all stopped to look at
this little kid in the wheelchair is I
want to thank you for such a great party
and I want to
teach you optimist what they teach us
that kids kicking in cancer and that is
know no matter what your face in your
life you can breathe in this light and
push out the darkness and it preached
the presage to show them how to do our
breath break and then with a big smile
on his face he says remember no matter
what you face in your lives
you can breathe in the light and blow
out the darkness and then again let me
then they gave me the microphone I had
to take a breath break myself because we
all knew that
Bernard's mom right away when he was a
baby
his dad died when he was 8 years old his
uncle died when he was 9 years old and
that was the year who was diagnosed with
an inoperable brain tumor that was
slowly stealing any movement from his
body and with the most beautiful smile
on his face he sensed everyone there no
matter what you face in your life you
can breathe in the light and blow out
the darkness so when they finally gave
me the microphone I took a breath break
myself and I sent to the optimist I want
you to understand that Bernard just to
find optimism but the definition of
optimism is not that everything's going
to be great optimism means that we can
respond to everything in our lives with
greatness and this is the moment of
optimism this is the moment that we have
a night the night of Pesach that's so
dark but it turns into almost like
daylight xolo young fellow Lila the
light according to the Midrash lit up as
if we're in the middle of the day
finding light in the course of darkness
is a human goal but when we realize that
we're teachers whether a home by
ourselves or the people around us
there's so much opportunity to teach to
be able to relate that we have found
this light that we can use this light
that we can ultimately feel this
connection to Hashem there was a young
lady who called me unfortunately she's
on hyper alimentation for many years she
can't eat or drink and this
Theatre she cannot be at anybody Seder
she's very immunocompromised you can't
even go down the block
to be by a parent Seder what does she do
so after discussing the losses of what
she does Friday night from kiddush and
the dolphin could she can't make it is
because you can't drink it said to it
said John it said so I just want you to
know that you're not alone because in
the middle of your Seder I want you to
look across the table and see that the
screen has sat there and the divine
presence will say to you you know what
I'm very lonely because for thousands of
years I've been without my children in
the base on me gosh and yes they
gathered from year to year with all of
their friends and they say sparkling
words and torrid beautiful songs but
it's not the same I miss them
I'm very lonely and by that point they
said to my young friend I said I want
you to realize then when it's time to
open up the door of raelia Novi Sad
machine it's opened up the door but
listen carefully because this year he's
going to tell Elio Shawna has abused
shall I am I'm tired of being lonely
without my children and I told my young
friend when you begin to sing the songs
at the end of the Seder your voice to be
joined the voice of the scheana for the
shirah chadasha because we're never
alone but I said to her on the kana you
I'm jealous because your Seder will
probably be the most holiest Seder in
the world for the you and the Tsarina
and your Satan will bring machine i'm
akane here so these are the words of
power peace purpose to be able to bring
in this energy to push out pain fear
anger stress and to know that every
moment we have a purpose and people are
watching people will see how those
individuals sat by themselves at a seder
with a shame assumption that they went
through this darkness with lights you
children are watching even if you're not
on zoom even if you're not connected
you're connected because ultimately when
you live that light you'll share it to
the world around you
no one will be alone this Seder but
neither will the Shriner can you teach
us how to do a breathing power break
sure we have a trademark breath break BR
a ke which even though it's trademarked
if you breathe you don't have to pay us
but the idea of the breath is the
following every time we have stress and
there's the constant stress of all of
the news and all of the pandemic and all
of the fears and all of the angst which
is certainly appropriate for the time
very understandable there's a constant
world of stress that's around us but it
preceded the coronavirus those stressors
will always make our body tight and we
have the adrenal gland that shoots out
these glucocorticoids these stress
chemicals it's the number one cofactor
in morbidity and mortality it makes you
sick but don't worry about that because
it'll kill you so we live in this world
of stress but the one good thing about
stress is that it'll make your muscles
tight now that doesn't sound so good
because they say there are two types of
Americans those who have back pain those
who will have back pain however if we
become sensitive it would become
observant of ourselves and identify my
neck shoulders chest head stomach think
about your special spot of stress when
that becomes tight and you're not
lifting weights and the reason that
you're tight is because of your stress
chemicals I I give these seminars to
busy executives all over the world tell
me you pick up the phone and I'll listen
your arm is tight it's either your phone
is too heavy is probably an Android or
you actually have seen
the caller ID and it's giving you a
message it says hey you need to have
stress so the press print is really
simple because when we can identify that
our body is tight and you're not lifting
weights you're having a stress moment
first step check the floor if you don't
have any of your major body parts on the
floor then probably there's no real good
reason for you to have these stress
chemicals it doesn't need fight or
flight that sympathetic nervous response
if there are body parts there call
nine-one-one that's a problem
it's gonna break also right check the
floor number two rub your hands together
kind of gets the energy flowing and then
with your neck a little bit down breathe
in and pull up like you're pulling up
light imagine the air is like a light
flowing through you all the way to the
top hold that two three and then breathe
out through your mouth relax your
shoulder your chest
at the ends of the breath push out a
little bit more just like a wave your
breathing up and blowing out up and down
but don't just breathe in air we ask the
kids for kids getting cancer a narrow
circle
what do you breathe in they sell out the
light and what do you breathe out the
darkness and we all have darkness the
ability to actually feel this light from
a cordless power will fill you up and
energy and then so blow out the darkness
of pain fear and anger you actually are
telling your adrenal gland nobody's
running after you to kill you you stop
stress chemicals it's that easy using
your breath to relax your body then
there are two words in Korean we teach
people to say if my own black belt is in
Korean martial art they're two words are
both
Hashem it's not really Korean one of the
big Hollywood actors had problem with
his back it was did you how to do it so
I told him the two Korean words bull
Hashem he's not Jewish so the Korean
restaurant down the blacks were going
bullish and brush em but it really spent
because kim jeong-hoon oh the guy even
lunatic in North Korea after the last
ballistic missile he turned to his
jolly-go-jumbo so it's made the rounds
but um the rash boss says what does that
mean but look like a break up a channel
a flow a pool it's flowing through me
when really I said everything in our
life is an opportunity and we could use
the light from a Kadesh burrow hole and
blow out the darkness we change the
world around us that's the ability to
bring in that path our create that piece
and here's the purpose you become a
teacher to others and I'm going to give
you at the end our website because you
can thank the kids of kids geeking
cancer when they know they have a
purpose they actually have less pain and
we've evidenced that with functional
MRIs we see the changes in their brain
but anybody can do this to breathe
through the light and to blow out the
darkness and to say that bill hashem is
a purpose that will illuminate the
planets and be as etosha share it live
it breathe it you don't need a mass to
breathe in the light but when you do the
darkness changes in the world so when
you're sitting at the Seder whether it's
yourself and your spouse or your
children or all alone remember you're
never all alone remember that yes the
stressors are natural and understandable
and you need to be aware of them but
ultimately the ability to breathe in
that light and to blow out that darkness
gives you purpose and at this Seder as
we all sit with the shrine assertion
woods telling us right now I have also
been very lonely we can sing together
the Shira Hadassah the gula song and
near
should be acceptable in shamayim when
our Kurdish burglar calls all debts from
Qatar shamayim or the hosts of heaven to
hear the song of the Jewish people as we
have a chance to be embrace I call the
sparkle because that's optimism it's not
that everything is going to be great it
means we can respond to everything with
greatness this is the call of the moment
and that we refer to as power peace
purpose very powerful Rabbi Goldberg
people who are moved how can they find
you online how can they think those kids
kids kicking cancer.org just go on our
website plenty of opportunities we have
some meditations there we are pushing
out videos for an media for children who
might be anxious now in general beyond
children were sick teaching them how to
have this empowerment but just remember
there isn't one person spinning there in
the audience who is not a teacher take
this moment this is your moment to teach
what real faith means to teach the
vision no matter where we are
I could there's pros and when we feel
those moments of tightness bring in the
light and you don't have to use your
hands sometimes adults get you know hung
up with that kids love it but wherever
you are just to breathe and rely and
blow out the darkness and don't forget
your Korean but will Hashem because we
are that breakup we are that channel for
uncle - bro who in this world and when
we open up with greatness we let our
colours bro who in and God willing we'll
enjoy that embrace because it'll be the
embrace that accompanies me shot said
Kano hum that another Goldberg
controversy man thank you so much thank
you for taking the time my great
pleasure thank you for listening
this is oh you live my name is rabbi
david Pardo we've had a very powerful
episode a lot of guests and a lot of
takeaways there are vulnerable people in
your in your network maybe you are one
of them perhaps we're all vulnerable in
ways that we don't even give ourselves
credit for I want to take the
opportunity to remind people who who are
themselves vulnerable to make sure to
look up before hog the number for the
national suicide hotline and make sure
to take care of yourself make sure to be
in conversation with Rabbi about the
necessity of of taking nefesh
life-saving measures if necessary a
trubiz being circulated by our official
Shafter
so that effect you should speak with
your local Orthodox rabbi if you don't
have a local Orthodox rabbi email you
can email me what the heck Pardo you
gotta work on that Pizza connect ale or
you know I'm happy to listen if you are
taking these coefficients make sure you
speak with something before Yom Tov make
sure they're there and ready to pick up
the phone if you need that and make sure
to have a not just a haka share but
really a hug the now of my family to
yours