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ASK OU/YU Seminar - 06. Kosher Q&A
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Q&A Session with: Rabbi Menachem Genack and Rabbi Hershel Schachter
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it's my distinct pleasure to introduce
our question answer and question answer
panel we have this close of having have
a sort of national connect who is the
CEO davidic administrator of all your
kosher joining us and we can act are you
there
we're not seeing you and also of course
Hershel Jacques - Lita who is the pie
stick Fidelio as well as I'm sure many
of you are familiar I'm sure there's
even sees many things tell me them here
in the audience today we'll be
discussing various questions and answers
so just need to wait for the connect to
come on
and shaft if you cannot meet yourself
also that would be great
okay perfect okay
okay thank you both both have an
objective for joining us today for the
questions and answers we have several
questions that came in before and I'll
turn I guess to you know both of you if
you want no I can direct it towards
either one of you for the questions but
thank you very much for taking time out
of your busy schedules to be here every
connect I know if you had anything you
want to start off with no I just want to
thank Ellie Elif for doing a fantastic
job putting this clover together for the
reach students and colo-colo thank you
very much okay so I remember connect I
guess we'll start with you the question
came up with regards to dairy equipment
something that we get questions about
every day and people want to know how do
we determine something's actually dairy
or dairy equipment and is it enough to
check the ingredients analogy the label
see if they know they'll know dairy or
there's no more that needs to be done
this is a question we get all the time I
think you know the question that only
gets more than any other question is
Oreo cookies pound and the reason for
that is that the Oreo cookies have oh
you D designation and many of them
affect our path so you really have to
know the list of which which obvious was
initially made in a plant in Chicago and
there wasn't time that had both dairy
and carve on the same equipment the
standard Oreo even those listeners oud
is actually in fact path and even dairy
equipment but there are lots of
different kinds of Oreo
so the o you has a list which will make
available to you so that at this point
in history is the most asked question
how do you know something is there
or daily equipment which says o UD so
the only policy is if it just says o you
and doesn't say dairy so then it's
generally pal if it's oh you D orphan
consumers will s whether it's dairy
equipment only because it was only dairy
equipment then you can eat it for
example immediately after fallacious
without waiting six hours so it's not so
easy to know because there can be
components that are not listed in the
ingredient and that could be dairy its
including who then did flavor but so
though you was always available to
accommodate you on and those kind of
questions and if you just call the O
yolk but be no spam will answer the
question through you or other the arts
the binnacle coordinator who handles
that will get back to you the likelihood
is but you can't be certain as if it
says you know if you know if you know
very often deal it's only dairy
equipment which doesn't doesn't
necessarily a requirement to make it
listed as theory as an allergen so these
things really do require further
checking okay thank you very much
I guess we'll turn to chef there and
then every gonna call so if you wanted
to pipe in for this and we're getting
some questions a lot of to loss Kalyan
questions seems to be on people's mind
especially now with you know some of the
McFaul still being clothes and things
like that and the first question we got
is of a Jewish owned candy store is
selling prepackaged can in a platter
that requires to loss Caleb what's the
best way to solve this we lost Calum
issue and there's also and I would add
people point out that certain stores
that sell pre titled Caleb would such
thing work and no how would that work
the obligation to do to be the scale
name only applies if it's a clay pseudo
let's say buy a suit said that doesn't
need to be a Galen or let's say you buy
a jewelry metal that doesn't need to it
can call me Fitz I mean I made to be you
than a pseudo so recent question came up
with the cities that if you have four in
a store they're selling addresses or
they're selling pots and pans so buy
them it's not I'm it'll be shil by them
it's I'm in this favor they don't have
to be table that even if they volunteer
and they'll be table it it really won't
help
only after the customer buys it then
then it's I made lucky Lords I made the
forks organizer I'm it's abused by FEMA
so then you need to be those kingdoms
and if you do the treatment and then
you'll be the storekeeper will be table
that before he sells it in the store
it's not I meant to be used
that's a sticker finish I know everybody
agrees to that but that's they came up
with in recent years yeah well what was
the first question that you ask what do
you know about the thing if we need to
ask him if you've got a platter if stone
delivered to your house say almost or a
candy platter with that I don't know the
quarter scale yeah I have I think rabbi
gifter wrote this assignment to this
mediations mediations damn if you buy
again that has one going appease or
something so why don't you have to empty
out the can right away when you come
home you're using using can to hold food
in it that's also his Thompson's for
food purposes so this video is rights
that's considered assumptions but
Shelton say if I put the food if I take
a fork and a knife when I cut off my eat
it
that's a sumptuous with the fork and a
knife the Columbia say or if I take a
frying pan and these people gave them
and I fry something in it all right boy
let's say a glass container and then I
put some food in it so that's a and a
clear that needs to well if I buy they
can from the story that he has the food
in it so that's the food is there
sitting there I didn't put it in I'm not
eating the food right now from the cans
that's called New Hampshire's behavior
cause let's say if I buy buy a bottle
with chocolate milk in it so the
chocolate milk is in is in the bottle
that's a glass bottle plastic most
assumed here on this unit here in
Brewers was Matt when the two kinds of
plastic plastic someplace thinking for
breaks he can fix and sometimes break he
throw with that sometimes he can opt-in
sometimes not he thought that the one
that can be fixed by melting it and
fixing it that didn't eat cinnamon wrap
on the most part of all that the plastic
was making a scandal so let's say I buy
chocolate in a bottle and a glass bottle
said let's battle means to scan but the
holy Thompson says Bushido as I take the
bottle home and I leave it in the
refrigerator when I want to drink from
the bottle so then that's a really huge
Thompson whom they all say so that you
shouldn't do you should pour the milk
from the glass bottle into a class that
you what toy them so let's say I go to
the candy store and I buy a glass tray
that has candies so that's as tom says
baa-baa tosses when I put it on on the
table so I'm not doing anything we come
here say I take some of the candies out
that's I'm not using the clay then you
know if you're drinking from a bottle
then you're using Bickley become by
yourself just take out candies from the
container these options are the
containers to hold the candies that
remain behind the candies that was there
that are remaining that I'm not eating
those with it
that's again as Thompson's to shave your
fasting so after you finish eating all
the candies and you want to use the CLE
again or you finished eating a lot of
them and it looks bad it's here if empty
you want to put more candies on so then
that's already huge stamp shows but
cumbias a so then you have to empty out
all the candies be turbulent in the
mixer Troy McClure has bromine in it the
big was open to the public that makes it
again anyone who wants can come to
Brewers and the beat oval and the maker
so just as a follow-up to probably will
ask some questions about whether she
would just said what about glass wine
bottles or if you drink with the straw
out of a glass bottle wine bottles also
its assumptions JB I'll toss it unless
you're drinking from the bottle but you
don't drink from the bottle pour out
some of the wine and the wine that
remains behind that's called the
assumptions that chez Doucette
if you drink you empty it out all the
wine and now you want to pour in more
wine in the bottle you want to use the
bottle for other mash games and now be
kind of how about that because Dom says
before me I say so that you need to be
the scaling foot okay so having your
neck you know
once the Shiva spoke now about 12 km a
lot of questions are coming through are
being asked what's the earliest policy
with regards to our coins feels kalyan
by caterers restaurants hotels or even
companies especially those calum that
for example are not possible to really
put into a mikvah so the the Oh your
policy is that actually I into this
Babylon I came because before we make a
bet that restaurants and so on that we
require and cater to require Fila
scaling for jewish-owned and we don't do
align the cooler that is called CLE sudo
go should include CLE spoiler and we
require in all of them Fila scale them
if it's a clean that look you know
jewish-owned and you can't be joyful
it's very large asunder that the
incision show for now if you can sell a
hey look of it to a guy so it won't be
ultra quiet Lila and that on occasion
we've had to do that but on a regular
basis that's not proper that the occator
has a lot of forks and knives and and
frying pans and everything it's gonna
make this twist but then offer in
order to partner myself in the midst
what fearless game so that's how Rama to
party so from amid so that's not right
there's a bits for the do a lot skin if
you can typically is so gigantic you
can't fit it into the mix and then you
make but but if the alternative is to be
much reaction to take it to the make the
rivers
time's the river is good for tweeners
kill him not all movies then it's not
right to do our Rama to parties so from
a mitzvah even if it's only let's say we
have some Twitter scheming and glares
Calum is only made their abundant most
of the person assumes only with the red
bonnet so some say Haram is moot on
their abundance you never do Haram on
their Rice's the pastor says diaramas
mother and their opponents and he said
there a bond that emits with their
opponent if there's a mitzvah bond and
you do a rummy make I should choose with
a mockery so the end of the day you
didn't do the mixer that's not right so
I guess having an active Shafter at what
point do we determine that feels Kingdom
is not necessary but feliz Calum is too
mean it is necessary if it's Cleese
suger that you're using for you know it
has a contact with the food so acquires
trailer and as I said we only you know
if it's impossible to do for example
it's a very very big flea that's
actually sure knows that you can sell a
trailer to a guard but otherwise
otherwise we were always toggle Calum we
had recently a Shila that there was a
CLE this was an eye this was in a in
room owner in a hotel whose face our
program and Wanda they were Tori with
all the Kaelyn with a tremendous tear
her and some of the key a limb to
somehow Sonny got mixed up they want you
were they were Toyo them
so the Shila was can you is that buffer
below so whether you say bitl on is that
a double she ation material because you
can you could take them all back to the
mikveh and even let's show her Noah it
says that if it's cashew and Calum if
it's a very big deal huh remorse says
that that's not called a dovish materia
and it would be bottle that's a cliche
ISA would that apply to a cle-cle
but that same a lock applied to have
chicane and that applies to africanum
would that apply to felis can because
the sheriff said fearless
calum it could be that it's it's not an
easel only to be much damage the boots
it's on the country it's a mid suit to
be joyful to clean there maybe that's
not called maybe that's not called
domination a team that should be you
know that that should not be called
since there's a tear its its bottle so
we be toilet below the Calum so at the
end was just too much for everybody to
be title so I think but she'll remember
we that that that particular company was
very close to observe a cone that
restaurant he recommends anatomical that
the Calum that were not bottle that they
should sell though oh they something
they should sell those two ago you think
I think that was the resolution at that
time but that itself is a shot in terms
of where the treeless Calum is and to me
mister damage was an issue a mitzvah
so I once went for Lancel a cheek he
said a name of his father name of the
mice who saw their chick he thought
because there's a shine let's say come
to somebody's house who's not toy
bakalyan so he said if he - he sent him
of emotion that could be I don't them
that she Lala can we hold this way but
he thought that it might not be also for
the person who's just the guest to use
those came because he's relieved Feliz
on the violin but in general its Mitzi
you know there's a Charlaine post cream
also what about for example if the Klee
belongs to a cotton is it austerity
Amish would that cleat because the
cotton is not rival mitzvos
but but you know Timmons general do you
policy coming back to that we did
require and continue to acquire caterer
has to be joyful all his Kaelin forks
knives and so on even even glasses that
only for Bonin all of them will not
submit on this have to us
just consider them please flavor and and
as very chefs we don't look to get
around into it without the limits we're
selling it unless it's something that's
a very very large Klee or some other
reason was not possible to retitle it
because that's actually that's a
Chevelle stutter
so once we're talking about bottles and
Calum will talk about another bottled
product and the question was posed what
level official do we require for a
Yankee considered bushel so in terms of
all your policy generally speaking over
Maya has different supervisor holds that
the Bishop of Lyon is it's you know some
hole that has to be you know Yalo booboo
else that is you know real boiling which
is a hon no enclosed well bielski think
said that it's forgot the exact number
that he said you know for example who's
the high hundred ninety s in Fahrenheit
but Denver moisture has it as your hose
that it's really that the she a shoe
that's lettuce so if you think it's yet
so lettuce then he has a whole range we
got so lettuces from 115 to think one
and Fahrenheit to 175 so you know so
that's a lower level in terms of what's
required in terms of be sure for for
yarn but we usually we until you use a
higher level but you know now they have
technologies or flares pasteurization
that it reaches that very high
temperature and very quickly so it's
actually only heated at that temperature
for a very short time in and then it
comes down that's why some of the
opinion that that maybe that doesn't
help in terms of rish mee-o kisses
namacarya the iron at all but generally
speaking we know you uses the higher
temperature but relation libros moisture
has suggestion of yet so lettuce and he
has as I said in general information
supers he has a whole range in terms of
yet so let's so once we're talking about
Vishal in the transition to identify the
visual on your shaft if the regime
occurred lever a little bit someone was
asking our microwave ovens a problem
visual official in general and an
official alchemy
the US Army is quoted in Shannara as
having a Suffolk regarding other forms
of visual whether they applied basilicum
so the basic rights that since we shall
Ockham's thereupon on whenever what do
you do when you have a shake of the Dean
and the humor you have a tackle
so we passed going to take one and then
they're up on a little cooler and I take
her on it then there Isis stopping there
I said little man
so the fastest and you shot me is that
informa be show other than what was
normal in the days of the time I am
that's this Suffolk I mean all the cool
Annette say really we should have gone I
thought we should eat on the cooler and
the tradition official welcome in a
microwave it's a kind of bishop that
didn't exist but they say I think if the
food was already cooked from before and
enough is just reheating it so that's
not visual ahkam but if they're not we
took let's say raw hot dog
a row of french fries and we'd only
throw up potatoes and then he heated and
he made it edible by yeah we did it he
made it edible by the bishop in terms of
beef a lot combining microwave actually
I think I had the discussion wants to
misnomer salmon as you know where the
microwave is considered be show device
or abundant is ibaka Lakers between
Galatia and English moisture and Samba
Samba the Moshe says that since the Maya
says the beach will Bahama
is not people because it's and so that's
promotion this is the equivalent of lab
to be sure Bahama because it's not with
a fire with actual heat it's you know
the microwave activates that the
molecules heats it up internally so it
moisture holds that that a microwave
would be on Shabbos would be be show
device sir because now it's Derek be
focused 0.2 a mush
nowadays you know if you had to do - MS
since that's that's the normal way to
cook nowadays in Israel that is their
official you'd be save on Shabbos and
the traumas Arman thinks otherwise that
he thinks that most atonium issued were
born an official so I sort of assumed
that troops numbers I'm and I met with
him once about this that he would be
make about microwaves and he said no in
terms of be shellacking with those is
specifically about that and he was he
said no every chef that resided so um
olya policies that we don't do a lie on
internship echelon for its goodbye guy
that cooking it in a microwave would not
be what not that would fall under the
category of malucia and Asian is not
also by be Sherlock him so in terms of
Vishal and someone's act asking a lot of
times he come to our town community and
his people is that for whatever reason
they eat kosher in the house but so
necessarily keep kosher out of the house
wouldn't somebody be allowed to eat in
that house strictly speaking the Mishna
says in Paris action Allah dubber
Donovan I meet a person that can have
them honest and Cassius unless he always
keeps for sure if sometimes it when he's
out of the house and leading a
restaurant even if it's not so gusher
then strictly speaking he doesn't have
them honest my sure has a big finish
you had the emotion lived in Russia
communists' live the Moscow for a few
years before he came to America so you
had the situation there where the
parents were still sham images and the
children were communists and it didn't
leave in anything so the shower was the
parents are old and they move in with
their children the children have them
honest to tell him that all the food
that they're giving them is caution
because the children eat Rafe is Jordan
arias in the house but if the parents
know their children so well they feel
that children never tell them a lie they
will never be much of them and eating
traces even though Dreyfus doesn't mean
anything to them but that a respect for
their parents
we never give them Schafer's a motion it
is based on inquiry that there's a
concept that king baby God they will say
who I know that the fellows telling the
truth so I can rely on that yeah but
that's its yeah a lot of times he can't
rely on that because he doesn't believe
in cash for us it doesn't mean anything
thing same thing let's say mixer the
lady has quantities if the woman in
charge only make fish she herself
doesn't care she doesn't observe Clara
something's broken she does know so she
keeps consciously shopping she doesn't
keep Terrace Amish Baca then she's not
the Menace to say that she made the
house Schottky is that no Madison say
that the woman's here all the hair went
under the surface of the water
you only have them honest in an area
well you you observe that area there are
more has an interesting truth i mugged
in Poland in Krakow they said by the
wine from Italy in the Jews in Italy who
manufactured the wine whom they even
wine themselves but drink tray for wine
I would explain that what is me so they
said they drink to go Asian why because
in Italy all the water is polluted and
you can't drink the water so since it's
a big shots are Clark said they decide a
name is Madame but them I said they
drank stamina so there are more was
asked a question how can we rely on
these Jewish men lecturers in Italy they
themselves drink Amina how can we rely
on that that they're giving us kosher
wine so he's Mako and he says well the
Jewish
wine makers in Italy it into
themselves a bad bad there but they
understood that if they live in Poland
where the water was not polluted they
would they would keep they would be
careful with the Eurasian wine they help
they had a head that they had tourism
that's not called question a lot of all
are done a millimeter but normally if a
person doesn't observe he doesn't have
that Madison that area of a lotta just
in in terms of the Troubadour emerges
item I should face is this understood
and consumers of our timbre but he
speaks
when he was living in Moscow the
children knew about their parents that
they wouldn't fool them and someone but
my concludes his chuhwa he says
that it doesn't relate cuz she says it's
only boishakh conquer these people had
no other 8c because they were being
living at their hat at their you know
with their parents and the children went
through me the way he described in the
apocalypse as soon as they were quorum
that Ramesh's language and the children
but he says well I save him he's not
make him so you know in in the normal
circumstance I mean this Charlotte could
come up somebody said to the vampire a
local community it's a corker to not eat
it - no Bala Barton's houses things like
that but his crew and it's a person it
doesn't keep kosher in you know outside
the house they think something you know
the Academy that's was common in America
inside he keeps closer outside he
doesn't but remotion really he's not
really making on that he's only making
in this extraordinary that you know as
he is rib chef Natasha writes this Chui
says in when he was in Moscow so you
know he's living under a communist
regime there was no other eighths at all
but generally speaking my sis lock hands
that may kill is not make him so it
would have to be an extraordinary us in
fact when the person is not basically
much he's that much bit about cash
restore Hawaii's eating outside he would
have he would have known that - so Jake
knows mom just sent a message she wants
to know in terms of this name - if
someone is not mocked but I'm because -
lion do they lose and I'm honest
malaria's of just allowing they think
it's a joke so we connect one of the
questions we asked was what is the
policy of the oh you with regards to
give me extra to restaurants who are non
tower values are glorified for example
like a kosher sports bar well I mean the
only policy is that in general that in
order for a restaurant to have a know
you'd the
of in in the ambience has to be toda
Caswell
so therefore you mean I remember we had
at first can see oh there was a request
for a restaurant with a belly dancer and
things like that so we different kinds
of clubs we rejected it a sports club of
course depends we actually you know if
they just chunks you know let's say we
have one Western identity neck it's uh
it but the ambience is very you know
it's appropriate people like sports so
they have they're showing sports on the
on the screen there is something like
that so that we would do but generally
speaking in terms of the you know the
fundamental question we make sure that
you know that the ambience and also the
halacha is observe example in terms of
live music while they're having a meal
since that's say Coleman whereas we
don't permit that Brooklyn class-based
much dose that would do with many
restaurants we had unless it's a suitors
Mitzvah so we had restaurants they
wanted to have live music and they serve
wine in these restaurants so that's not
appropriate and we didn't give - go
either we didn't hear - go go we didn't
let them have the the live music so chef
there's a lot of the Isthmus today
eventually gone through our bonus
different communities and asking how
should a smaller deal with some of these
issues you know you is a much larger
organization has more muscle can be more
selective but sometimes you start with
it's all about them that want to certain
things any adraka in terms of you know
how small or fat or off out of town
should deal with places that want to be
kosher certified but might not have the
best ambience look you have to be bus at
the meter are sometimes the here in a
situation will choose the least of all
the evils so if the alternative is gonna
be be a kosher restaurant so it's better
to have there should be a kosher
restaurant and ambiance okay dad thought
choice yes chef Allah says
obviously everything especially in a
local von lo computer requires on the
part of you know discretion and
sensitivity and intelligence in terms of
how you handle it because you know
little by little you know you'll you'll
build it and it'll be a different kind
of in reality that you build we know the
famous story bedroom so so answer that
you know little by little the
communities that week you know the he
built things so certain things he wasn't
marketed about and then you know the the
reality changed completely so certain
things that are possible oh you can do
I'm just not not likely in a local
community and you know for example the
oh you requires or we agreed at least
initially with that all all our
restaurant owners or we tried to have I
shouldn't say because of our exception
so the irony is that wanted them which
was grandfathered in is owned by
somebody not Jewish that's probably one
of our easiest restaurants in terms of
compliance but that's because he doesn't
know the whole show for now if this
would repeat back to you but he thinks
that it doesn't you know as others might
know but you know the things that oh you
can do in Manhattan that are not
possible in local Vardhan so they'd have
to set up a system that's a meaningful
system of even if less and checking I
remember when I used to learn by the
love in onset one summer so there was a
local bakery there the man and I don't
think it wasn't Jewish him at all I
don't think it was Jewish certainly not
from the store was open on Shabbos I
don't think were Jewish but you know the
lovely arranged and something checking
some of the ingredients and so on and he
relied on it and that was that was the
only bakery there in town so you know
depending on the circumstance and you
know you guys I said discretion and
intelligence okay
we can act there are some questions also
post about non-food items and they
wanted to know they see a lot of people
call they see you know
aluminum foil pans they see bottled
water why do these items have a hex on
them well there are products that you
know probably inhuman to kosher but have
a texture I mean the most demonstrative
of these you know different kinds of
detergents so um you know that lifts
them I feel a hundred times over and
dangerous to eat but you leave to
remember that oh use massage from Akasha
simple it's also a marketing simple it's
not there and many companies want it
because they think marketing wise it's
good for for them not only for the you
know the kosher consumer Jewish consume
that is this they think that there's a
perception with acted or not that if it
has a no you it has a different higher
level in terms of quality some case in
terms of hygiene that's not necessarily
what the oh you firms just know you just
mean said it's kosher and so we often
will tell companies no this isn't human
to kosher it doesn't need supervision
but they're interested in it for for
their marketing reasons so there might
be products as I mentioned for example
when I first came to though you it's not
the case anymore but a lot of though you
was positive on Procter and Gamble and
they used to be two departments of the
Procter & Gamble there was an edible
Department and it were there was the non
what we call the non edible Department
remember the name of the person from P&G
we used to deal with in that grossest
name was Davis will be someday Chi and
and that was a very significant company
very large company I mean at the time
it's kept competitors dealt with it was
with respect they still refer to Korean
P&G is Proctor and God and and so there
are products that don't require
supervision and and might be kosher
so after a similar I'm not saying
they're not kosher but there are in the
production of the aluminum there are
different oils that are used they're
used hot you know and so those things
you know have to be monitored to make
sure that they're kosher oils but the
putting time but there are certainly
many products that especially as I said
detergents and things like that that
really don't need supervision per se I
just add to what you said a big enact we
had recently an application for a couple
years ago for a company that
manufactures the countertops and sure
enough they're using non kosher oils and
they want Ostrogoth on it at the
countertops
I feel of it you know for keeping them
meat is a very hot topic especially with
the barbecue season and there's a
several different questions I guess well
Sarthe never connect with other chapter
the first one is how does the oh you
view the Ethical Treatment of PETA and
animals this is that the shape is under
well you know with we're sensitive to it
you know schita itself is first of all
is scientifically is probably one of the
most humane ways it's not the mushy way
of killing an animal you know the irony
is that you know some of the other ways
I refused to speak about this you know
in terms of shooting the animal with a
stun gun in the in their head unless you
really hit the exact right spot you can
see sometimes the animal cringing in
pain afterwards and srida generally
within just a few seconds the animal is
insensate so it really is a very humane
fashion we're concerned about sometimes
methods of i'm bannin says that the
beasts and the blocks that we make on
speakers because of Sabella fine you
know because this street is my might in
the saab Bella fine so there was
actually a a interesting study done by
he wrote a book called Sweta and in the
year 2000 rabbit Levinger who himself is
a division he was in Basel now he was in
Israel himself is a veterinarian he
wrote a very interesting book but simply
the science of screechy you know
demonstrating how the animal becomes
insensate so quickly and and maybe
actually a much better way but having
said that you know it's something we the
toad he'll fix concerns itself with and
you know one of the big advocates it's
just important to know the history in in
the nineteen end of the 1950's in the
1960s there was attempted to have you
know until when the humane slaughter Act
was passed so rubbish every salivated
above was very involved it was unusual
for him he was very involved in terms of
mobilizing Jewish community to make sure
that creature was not supposed as it is
in many countries now in Europe and he
and there's an exemption not only was
there an exemption for kosher slaughter
in the bill which is still the bill
that's intact to this day but it also
there was scientific evidence that was
presented to Congress and there's a
finding in that bill that not only
through an exemption from for religious
reasons but the kosher slaughter is
indeed humane so my fact above went and
testified before Congress in nineteen
sixties or something in the early
sixties at that time in terms of this
legislation he was very involved also in
creating the pen which we tried to use
but at least one we recommend which is a
which was called the there was the glove
worked on this and then he gave it over
to the ASPCA the animal so-called animal
rights organization but of course we
have opponents to shrieked and Peter
which a radical animal I don't if the
right
animal rights organizations that
misrepresent Rita I was when one of the
important animal rights or I would say
analytes advocates but is a woman who
was professor of in University of Denver
and she uncle Grantham Temple Grandin
who wrote a book the chemical and is an
extraordinary woman I became friendly
with her she herself is autistic and
because of that she feels that she can
understand animals and you know that
what their their feelings in terms of
stress and so before shrinker so we want
to be my mind you know minute minimize
that as much as possible she wrote a
wonderful book is called thinking
thinking in pictures so these are things
that we really factor in and we even in
this one of the treatise that we had you
know doing - Oh Andrew Bastian the Peter
was really one of the organizations that
looked to target to the Baskins very
very unfairly and she has she we had a
protege of Temple Grandin inspect the
plant and set up the procedures there to
try as much as hard to limit any stress
on the animal erica vogue is the whole
name she still goes to the plant and
lead to this day or she sends one of her
assistants to go and so we care about it
we want it to be done in the most
efficient and and and sensitive way as
possible the love was very much for a
standing pen because he thought that you
know the dad will you know protection
schita and promoting it that also in
limiting their stress on the animal
however the development in Israel
requires what they call Skeeter nathas
because they wanted to be shmita mamalu
LaMotta the love himself was opposed to
that and I remember he wanted Tommy go
tell the chief rabbi which I did that
look at the RAM that Obama says when he
speaks but Hills ashrita that to mom
says that shocked us have been obento
medet been Rovere at said CC can share
the animal standing as well not that it
helped in terms of their policy note but
this is something that we work on and
it's interesting because it is concerned
developer not change or the Israeli
government changed that now just visited
John this is only several months ago it
changed its policy most of the shooting
coming to Israel comes from South
America for Central America and they
require now pens but they required to
invert the animal in the pen but it's
not just ashrita on the ground whether
that shmita is more or less you know
stressful for the animal I'm very
skeptical but certainly the aesthetics
of it looks better
Thank You chef there there's a lot of
questions about Messiah especially all
frozen shaquita with the regime be able
to talk about his turkey considered
kosher or not the game area in tarik in
the Dreyfus deliciousness burger Jeff is
tells you listen Mona how to identify
whether anyone's very disclosure or not
so then the Americans is worried that
damn who lived in Bothell once came upon
a new breed that they never heard of
before
and it had all the frogs on him to
identify that it's a kosher bird and
they were shifting an idiot and after a
while they realize that they misjudged
and they made a mistake on so Raschi who
usually just gives parish on the Gemara
Rashi
really gives up Shakalaka sometimes she
does give up soccer Russian Tsar Tibet
Tom love their eyes him in Amenas
Bamako and a lot of other and woman
there are a lot of rashes but give sacra
welcome to Russia and Nakamura says
Lamar I made a mistake and they misjudge
and they thought that a non-kosher bird
was kosher
it's a good idea we should avoid eating
blow
you have a tradition oh bird it
shouldn't rely on the 5cm on him that
the mission hands because he maybe miss
Judd so there are more quotes this when
the safer he said the head commander at
Laney oh my gosh cannot you see there's
a banana guarantee he was looking in in
Spain and this safer so they had to
hurry up by the replenishment inside the
ship bus comes all Ashkenazim in there
every day they quote the eastern every
page near there so the rom or quotes
this is less you have a tradition so
that's the Schuyler so that's it you
have a tradition a chicken's are kosher
so what if the chicken is slightly
different from the chicken that we don't
you always a slightly chemical if it's
not exactly the same let me say this we
have a traditional this chicken is car
share carries over to this chicken also
not such a major difference
turkeys are a different min though so
that's a shower when Columbus came back
from America to Spain he brought back
the turkey with him and in Spain they
don't have this comer this aroma from
Rashi fan Ashkenazim when there are many
and he said there are more quotes it but
the muhabba doesn't quote that from so
when when Columbus brought back to
Turkey to Spain so all this floor has
all the same on him oven kosher birds so
they started a media then apparently 50
years in the store that I can't aspire
to my reading teri cases assume they
must have had a tradition that
discussion they never had any tradition
so they never was a tradition so
strictly speaking we're really in
violation of the Minich not to eat any
foul unless you have a tradition the
famine acronym say no we have a
tradition the American Indians were
interrupted in they had in Turkey was
cautious what are you talking about
they gave other explanations they said
the turkeys come out the same as a
chicken duck is very different from a
chicken not the same is it but the other
thing is only a minute I think ever
since Roe consumes motor chugging any
other country in the world the many
became undecided appengine Yuri was
insisting that it's not right you
shouldn't eat turkey there's one Chavez
family name was Horowitz so he said he
has relatives who will not be turkey the
Lee Krasner on Yom Kippur but the one
eat turkey because their descendants can
wallow
so speaking of Rashi we really shouldn't
be eating but it became a meaning that
Turkey is an exception to the rule we
can a few ago the place is having will
come in etske
but she Philadelphia and his wife has
guests in that house for Shabbos and
told me that he doesn't eat turkey but
he told me his father with the ark of
wood would eat turkey but his wife that
means his mother came from a town in
Europe that the meaning was not in
Turkey again cuz we don't have Masari
around Turkey so he himself follows the
meaning of his mother his father the
integrations man it was accepted the
meaning of his mother and they and they
any teach already time he doesn't eat
turkey we can act in terms of oh you
policy people hear different things
about hot chocolates well even if a
person is not good not to eat turkey I
think somebody it is this question about
let's say you have a minute not eat
turkey you eat a person's house who does
have you know serves Turkey on occasion
do you have to worry about the calum so
in fact I don't think you have to me
laugh because it's
really not eating turkey so we showed
this a homer shark says in general then
I'm homeless we don't say Tom and I
don't think it means if there's a myth
if there's no me so and the thing that
it's possibly you should be cautious for
it and certainly if you ingest at
somebody's house because I know when the
Yaak wouldn't show was by us he had an
ark a let me didn't think the camera Oh
sir because we serve turkey although I
said he could have a heart I'm going to
go to the convention but while the was
the memo says that clock may lie if you
if you eat in a person's house and there
were different opinions about Caleb no
not we're not talking about whom about
Turkey we talk about a new set of colors
so you can rely seems to be a memo is
even talking about even if it's a binary
much so I don't think you have to worry
about to kill them if you this ready how
much goes eating somebody's house delete
their so we can act this has a little
follow-up in terms of other types of the
serum a lot of people out there hear
conflicting reports Broncos what they do
a lot with his own allow once they were
used policy in general with regards to
Nevada silica Thiel can you rely upon us
what about the other drove as I have in
Ostrava well I'm not sure what community
everybody ever it means that you want
Nevada healer
so if you if something becomes but it's
mutter
to say otherwise the person is that be
gravis I mean it's not a I don't think
this is not a former not to align bittle
in the toy over but we don't rely you
know I'm bit luckily in terms of our
office even even if it's a girl you
should company we we don't you know if
the amount thats there is very small and
would let it less than she she would be
bottle we will not look up clearly gave
of oshkosh on that lemuria has a to ver
to vomit relates that he says even a CLE
that's an anal bank let's say it's a
factory that makes non kosher kosher in
the same factory they use calum that you
know they use the same equipment but
it's in a nub in Yermo
so that's my collection is that based on
bittle not the voices go much like this
Michael accompanied by Morris relates
the pace of my focus
Tabasco and abetik abayas so the
moisture says that you should not rely
on it because it's Marcia's phrase it's
mejor hard over so even sometimes if
something would be bottle oh you know
something would be motor Marcia has this
concept of mooladhara that is
inappropriate
so in terms of or policy we example
physically that's an end up in your mo
so look up clearly we will not and the
only way to run this Factory is that
it's in any been your mo so we won't
give our offer to that if it's always
just then that question claim is if we
know that the Kahlan what Rafe came in
on culture we require cash ring and we
we don't rely and little East local
dealer but but if you ask somebody
Everett if suddenly became virtual world
we rely on that the answer is yes so you
know Shafter is there Samuel I asking is
there not convenient between little it's
ilaha illa and little Hammad's barai
when it comes to paisa same thing if you
know that there's an ingredient of
comment so luckily they have sure my
thesis is about the musician homies bit
pacifism asha comments even on their
pacer is about the musician but you
don't give a half sure and a product
based on the fact that you have all the
traif ingredients about the mission that
you give such action ok we have a couple
more questions and then you know times
me out of here maybe your neck the
question came through if the only takes
into account you mentioned you know
about the animals and things like that
what about in terms of workers and
compliance does they'll you take that
into account or there's that left other
authorities to take care
well you know our expertise is is
limited to Cassius if we know that
there's something which is violating you
know in which is patently violating
American law or inappropriate you know
selling product that's we just had I
just had this past week thinks an
example somebody called us that there
was a company that was packaging product
and it was the he said it was
underweight and we sent our mush gear in
Baltimore to check it out and indeed
that was the case and we stopped them I
mean the company itself when we went
back to them said that there was
inadvertent somehow said it was wrong
with the scales would and what we
required them to recall the product as
well so if it's something that we know
that's inappropriate either in terms of
standards or you know as I said in this
example of weight but you know several
years ago this goes back a while the
conservative movement wanted to start
that have sure thing was called
half-shirt said that but you know they
wanted to speak about you know what what
what level of payment workers were
getting and so on so that's not our area
that's up to the you know whether it's
OSHA USDA FDA to set those standards
they have the they have they the
expertise and the authority to do it
that's not something we do but as I say
if we know something is wrong we will
take action as we just did actually
happen just last week okay question
after people are asking about no
non-dairy creamers that might have some
type of dairy inside of them could one
still use them in their coffee after a
fleshie good meal
there was a discussion recently all the
cautious organizations get together a
few times a year so recent meeting that
thought that it was permissible it's not
named about Tunisia la catrina the milk
is kosher
except that the questions but the good
coffee is like a bargain so if it turns
out that you have shisha I'm against
corruption on the part of the creamer
you have a little bit of milk in it when
you mix in it with the coffee you have
shishun so it's Barbra sure that's not
cool that's not a violation if I'm
asking if you Devon if you're mixing it
you know to move it you move Ashley then
you're gonna put it in something that's
Flay shakes so that is my Vaseline so
that's the shaft says but if you're just
putting into your coffee like they were
chef Lou said so at that point it's
buckling gonna drink it at that point
mm-hmm okay I think that wraps up most
of the questions that we have today I
want to thank you rubbing your neck and
abstractor forgive me at this time
answer everyone Charlotte's today and we
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