Tinok Shenishba by Rabbi Aschi Dick

started by Herz was a very they didn't know RAB Herzog was a very very great man Rabbi Herzog Rabbi Herzog was an amazing person his his the the grandfather of bie um very great man first of all he was brilliant he was an academic of the highest caliber he wrote his Doctorate on and today it's become very popular puton RAB Herzog is the real hero of the whole story he was the one that uncovered the MS trus however you pronounce that he was the one that covered he's the real hero of the story he dismissed it because it was purple until Professor elner accidentally left the on the Wind on the on the on the right over there so RAB Herz came to the conclusion that the most reasonable candidate for the was the mck he only dismissed it because it was purple until Professor sellner by accident left it next to the window well nothing back AC and he left at the window and all of a sudden he discovered that when the when the the die is exposed to the to the to the Altra of of the sun it turns blue but he was a very great man Herzog he was he was a first caliber academic he knew Shas by heart he was taught by his father in England he became a rabbi in in in in in Ireland is it Dublin or was it in Le and he was a tam the highest caliber he was a student of the rvas not not not rvas rabid zimra from yeah 500 years ago the rbas the rbas I don't know I don't know why yeah you come kosher animals yeah I don't know but anyways I can talk a lot about really a very great man but one of the one one of the things about RAB Herz is that he was taking refuges from the Holocaust in his living room they were sleeping on the floor and he went to England to retrieve the doctor said he has to rest because his heart wasn't doing well he had a heart attack he didn't he wouldn't he was a very great man so anyways this also this whole Shear begins with the story I I I teach in I give the she in my which is the it doesn't have an active R so I I give the and I answer the shist there I'm I don't know what you call it a a substitute there is no official UNF whatever you want to call it I'm not really an ACC I give the so I I'm lazy so instead of preparing a Shear I tell them Whoever has a sha ask a sha and then I'll I'll answer the Sha if I know so somebody asked me he says Raba we have a problem at work because our 10th man is often times a non-observant Jew it's very you have to get you very tricky today what you call observant what not observant let's say somebody who continu from last week so he uh I told you I told you the story I told said the story last week yeah so I said to right so I told him and I told him I began with statement I forgot that I said the story and then Rafi Forin got very upset but ra Forin didn't like that generalization so basically number one let's look at the p in it's fascinating ramban on this I this is one of I find this one of the Most Fascinating rans in all of so this is a after the people had sinned with says if if they make a mistake and they don't do all the Mitzvah everything that God commanded to from the day from the day that be Moshe began to be commanded from God until the current day if this mistake was done it was from the eyes of the so we have to bring a special carbon they're going to be forgiven because it's a says the ran you know what this is talking about this is talking about because that's what the PK says that he forgets everything that Hashem commanded Moshe and the ramban says the P also describes when you have a national situation of where the masses forget about the Torah that's right there ran points that out as you just pointed out okay I just going to I'm just going to read the Bold sections from the ran says this is talking about somebody who doesn't keep the entire Torah but he's a he becomes part of one of the other nations he doesn't even identify as a Jew because he grew up as a Canadian there was an izy asper you know you heard of izy asper you heard of I asper right so izy asper was the owner of the National Post and the Jerusalem Post I don't know if he still owns it or not so he he was he was a Real Estate Mogul in Canada so he said I'm first Canadian and then I'm Jewish that's what he said I first and foremost identify as a Canadian then I identify as Jewish that's already at least he identifies as a Jew because there are many Americans don't even identify as a Jew so he says there's a an the entire nation gets to a situation where they think they don't have to keep the Torah anymore or they or the entire nation gets the impression that you don't have to keep the Torah you get reward you get Ben you get bonus for keeping the T but you don't have to or they forgot the Torah as what happened in the times of the Mal like they think it's outdated right right an entire segment of the nation gets the impression that the tah is totally outdated and he points that that's what happened in the times of Ezra he says when Ezra wanted to bring the people back up to the ter is most of the nation were already intermarrying they didn't identify as Jews anymore and then he also points out the times of Ezra or he also points out inesc Ines the people suffered and they came to the prophetes and they said that if treated us this way obviously he doesn't care about us anymore and therefore we don't have to keep his Ted like but people said where was God during the Holocaust if God could have let the Holocaust happen so God is not interested in us anymore they this question of where was God during the Holocaust we had such a similar question in times ofes that's what the Novi describes where the people came to and they said if God let this happen then he doesn't care about us anymore and we don't have to keep his mitv the number three in okay the people came to what was their charge number four they wanted to say then all the nations were Pagan they used to serve Idols so the way they would basically assimilate is by becoming Idol worshippers idol worship was almost like a symbol of assimilation to a certain extent the safre says that what was the argument it's the in this that began with this idea of they said the Torah is optional it's not compulsory why look at the next section God abandoned us he let us suffer at the hands of the Nations we're not under the jurisdiction of God anymore you know it's amazing that in light of these recent tragedies that happened down south I'm hearing all the time that there's a Resurgence of truva that all the people down south are now looking to get closer to Judaism which is very fascinating because in the aftermath of the Holocaust A lot of people said we're not interested in Judaism anymore they said if this is what happened then we're not interested we're talking about different scale it's a different scale people at the beginning yeah you know felt that it was going to be you know some Oh you mean Holocaust right it's true it's a totally different scale but I would imagine that it should still okay relative if the Holocaust if you had let's say in the Holocaust you had thousands or hundreds of thousands of people saying we're not interested in religion anymore because of the Holocaust so I would expect that what happened down south would cause not that not that number of people abandoning Judaism but maybe on a smaller scale but you see the effect was the opposite people wanted to go I think it has to do with Artis I think it has to do with living in yeah storiesi reinforcement yeah I mean you see a Divine hand here because it's very very intriguing that you hadim that weren't affected and the secular were affected I'm not implying anything you have to be careful today today people can misinterpret you that wouldn't yeah I would imagine there was no information that's right yeah yeah written that over the 20 30 years yeah there's a spiritual real weight in other words you would never hear let's say 70 80 years ago yeah popular music that came from the M right now over the last 20 30 years especially from the Spy yeah SP they made they popularized manying and made so now you can he them as a popular popular radio programs not religious program popular program and and they definitely yeah you definitely are the secular that's right the mainstream music has become very religiously oriented there's a phenomenon of a lot of um singers becoming Bal truat becoming very popular but you're right so there is a Resurgence of religious interest and I think it has to do with the said that the main difference between versus living outside you see the you see the Divine orchestration you see it it's much more apparent in is's much more of Aon you don't see the Divine orchestration here I mean even benorian said to be a realist in Israel you have to believe in miracles 48 was open was open Miracles 67 every war that this country fought uh involved open Miracles the Gulf War right open Miracles 11 yeah I know so you really do see the Yash you see the Divine of divine orchestration and I think that one of those manifestations is that in the light of such horrible torus such difficult situations that the nation comes closer to God I think that's also another element of my humble belief so so it's interesting so that the sa describes how the people came to and said if this if this is what happens to us we're not interested in religion so these are different examples that the ramban describes is not just on an individ individual level he's talking about phenomen of on a mass scale that's what the ran is describing right so so the ran explains that the kazal said that that's referring to a and the ran says why because typically once the nation follows aara they typically assimilate that's that's we saw there there a correlation between idol worship and assimilation the assimilation itself is a form of idol is a form of but he says the is talking about a situation where the entire nation becomes gets to a situation of T now this was a big eye opener for me this I'll tell you why because we often bemoan the spiritual state of the nation this was not meant to be you think when Hashem gave us the Torah it was meant to this is this is what was meant to be that 80% of the Jewish people should be assimilating but you see that the Torah already prescribes a protocol for a situation where the entire nation assimilates so you see that the fact that 20% of the nation didn't assimilate and that I don't know what 5% of the nation is orthodox that shouldn't be taken for granted that is itself a positive element so you know we shouldn't take it for granted because the T already prepared a protocol when the for when the entire nation assimilates okay so that's very interesting so that's the situation of T So raan gives different examples of what a t is either they believe that the tar is not mandatory or they believe that the Torah is no longer relevant or they forget the Torah and this happened in history okay it happened in history when your RAM took over you had mass mass a mass phenomena of it happened in the time of Ezra okay so number two part two of the number eight in the reference only mentioned once in in so we'll start with a Miss in chabas number eight it says if somebody forgets about chabas entirely he forgot that there's such a thing called the Sabbath and he did many forms of forbidden work over many different shabas so you bring one so number nine in the reference the I remember I was learning with I weed to go to share this was the suya that we learned with rash it's amazing whatever I learned with rash I never forgot he used to read the gar very slowly used to translate every word then used to read the Rashi used to slowly Translate every word he he was very he was very at peace right he was very calm he had a he had a he had outstanding Tranquility to him he never got excited he never got nervous he was always very very very calm and um he used to read every word so slowly and used to translate every single word into yish that you never forgot it personally I never forgot it right I remember we were also learning the suia of darki there are certain superstitious practices that are prohibited according to the so I remember somebody came running up to and shouted on Friday night sorry R why is that not prohibited under the category of darari you're not darari Superstition you can't say deer ran past me so therefore I'm not taking I'm not I'm not going to do the business deal the were very obsessed with Superstition any little sign they saw they would act on it so what what about the Sim on Friday night why is that not Superstition so he said yish he says right because it's written the Gar so it can't be Superstition the truth is that he always gave an easy way he always tried to give an easy answer the I think it's the M says the reason why it's not because you're not acting on it I'm not doing anything you're not acting on the Simon I'm not I'm not going to in I'm not going to say oh great there's a pomegranate tonight at the table so I'm going to invest in that stock that's not what you're saying you're asking Hashem to act you're not doing anything you say Hashem there's a problem granted so Hashem you you know you give us a good year so that's why it's not a problem of superstition always used to give the easy answer so remember we learned the so the there number nine says ra they say that even he was like what you described in the Holocaust a child that was put in a monastery as a young child so and he has to bring one just as somebody who forgets about chabas he has to bring one atonement for all theab all the times that chabas was desecrated invertedly yes there being one offering so to somebody who's captured somebody who grew up in a totally Gentile environment he has to bring one say no you don't have to bring a it's only somebody who knew about Shabbat forgot about Shabbat so he has to bring an atonement but if somebody was raised in a Monastery he doesn't need to bring an atonement for his what would otherwise be a desecration of the shabas so remember when we're learning this in the DF yomi my father called me up my father is a he's very strong about D yomi he really likes the DF yomi says makes sense if he grew up in a monastery he was captured from the non-jews it Mak sense he doesn't have to bring an atonement why does Raven SCH need to what's the opinion of Ren SCH how come ra needs to bring an offering as an atonement it doesn't make any sense so I said okay I was bothered by the question too and I so if somebody knew about Shabbat and he forgot so he has to bring an atonement for having he never knew about it no no so the question is why according to R does a need to bring an atonement for all the times that he desecrated the shabas no no means he never knew about it no that means we treat a just as we treat somebody who once knew about chabbat and forgot about it so my father said why how can you hold why should need an atonement that's the question my father asked me so I told him the asked the question I said we're descendants of the I'm a descendant of the my father isn't okay CU I'm a descend of the through my mother's side there there are many many descendants of the S the S had like 10 kids or loving kids and they all had big families he has a huge there are thousands and thousands of but they always take a big Pride are always very proud of being a so somebody why why is there this Pride for being a name no my mother was fredman's youngest son-in-law was name was fredman it's for you a Freedman so my mother's a Freedman so she stems from the's youngest son-in-law so they're always very proud to be question is why people so proud of being being was a sonw and you never hear them bragging about there are many that are not but all the are because only had children from Raber's daughter she was much younger than he was she didn't want to get married to him he was 20 years older than she was he she didn't want to get married the father said you're going to regret not marrying this guy he's the one of the great luminaries of the old generation so I the reason was is because until the Holocaust there were almost nover that left the fold of religion it was a very religious family his kids were all very religious great Rabbi figures all his grandkids were great Rabin figures shouldn't say all most of them so if you were it means that you came from very devoutly religious family that's why it was a big Pride to be a AER The Descendants that he had from the other kids they became mathematicians but they were not religious they were secular that's say the Iger family so the the so that's why was was a big Pride when you said I'm I'm a r anle well you could be a anle from from the other side that weren't religious but if you it means you came from and all likely you came from a very devoutly religious family so said the was bothered by the same question the my father was bothered by what is the reason why R would maintain that means a baby sh that was captured as a young child he was raised among Gentiles so says let's look at number 12 aav I skip number 11 11 the like Ren so the problem is even greater because we rule like raen if we rule like but the fact is we actually even rule like ra that needs to bring an atonement for all thetion the question is why so says he never knew about Shabbat he was raised in a monastery so he's not he doesn't deserve any punishment whatsoever there's a little bit of a sin there there's some sin there it's not like a guy put a gun to his head if a guy puts a gun to your head and say and says I want you to desecrate the shabas I want my coffee right puts a gun he says I want my hot coffee you cook me a coffee or else I'm going to kill you so there there's no he's not to blame whatsoever but there's a little element of sin what does that mean a kid that grew up in a monastery what's the element of sin there the kid grew up in a monastery how could you expect him to know about chabas yeah carbon so number 13 so again we don't really have an explanation we're still in the dark we still don't understand why we need to bring a carbon to atone for his shab's desecration so number 13 okay in the reference she any children in the crowd okay if there children in the crowd will have to skip this okay so was having relations with his wife and right in the middle of the relations that means to say that while during the union so she says I became a needid I'm menstruating so you're not allowed to withdraw right you have to stand still to freeze okay it's important I don't know if this ever happened nobody ever admitted to me that this happened right it never happened to me I can tell you that much but uh but imagine right in the middle of the Union the woman starts to menstrate so you have to freeze right you don't you freeze until until the arousal subsides you don't withdraw because if you withdraw that's also form of having relations with with a menting woman that's right exactly now the gar number 14 discusses what happens if when he entered she was in need and he didn't know he is anus he doesn't have to bring a carbon number 15 the ram say you know he doesn't have to bring a carbon Mal say what did you expect of him how is he supposed to know that his wife was menstruating if it was during her when her period was due was in during her V so then he's at fault he's a p he's a he should have never had relations when his wife's period was due but if his wife's period is due he's totally innocent so therefore he doesn't have to bring a carbon doesn't have to bring a carbon oh so that's different we'll get to that and yeah we'll get to that that's called um um yeah so we'll discuss that so now the problem is ex is is made even worse the Kasha I just bring this to to to reinforce my father's question here you said that if somebody lives with his wife and he had no way of predicting or figuring out that his wife would start to menstrate or that his wife was menstrating he had no way of knowing he doesn't have to bring a carbon what's the r says what what was he supposed to do when he began to have relations so that she was pure how was he supposed to know that in the middle she was going to become a menstrating woman so you you completely absolve him of any obligation to make a carbon so the same with you can make the same argument what do you expect this child to do who was raised in a monastery again you're only going to make him bring AAS if he continue to desecrate the shabas I say that with with quotation marks when he became a guttle when he got to the age of bar mitzvah when he became 13 and he continued to do work on Shabbat so then he'll after bring a carbin even though he's raised in a monastery so the question becomes even more intense following so for right so we really don't have an explanation at this point so the truth is you know the I know what the meant distinguish between an when somebody puts a gun to your head versus an onus that was done as a says it's not like being forced by number 19 I'm I'm getting number 177 says that if you do something by oess if somebody puts a gun to your head it's it's not called a it's not called an act number 18 called over if something was done it was if it wasn't done now the truth is you have to qualify what the said because it's obviously not to be taken literally I prove it I'll prove it to you oh so that's what the wants to say that if something was done under the under the threat of a gun it's as if it wasn't done at all so the says that if somebody was forced to worship and animal theor says that the animal is considered nead it's disqualified to be brought as a carbon according to why if an act that was done at gunpoint is not an act then why is the animal considered an act an animal that was worshiped so the is what well in as much that it's not he failed to do the Mitzvah of kir Hashem but according to the he did the act when he was when there was a gun to his head so it's not called it's not called an act so so you don't see that you see that is not correct actually you see that even anim was involved was involv but so you have to I I'm going to say something similar to what you're saying that when you do something under gunpoint it's not your act it's the act of the person who put the gun to your head which means to say that if you do something under gunpoint the ACT is not this is nuanced lumus this is nuanced Lithuanian nuanced talmudic hair splitting but it's Nuance but it's still something we can all understand when you do something under gunpoint who is considered to have done the ACT not you the person who put the gun to your head it's his act and it makes sense because he was the cause of the ACT he was the one that caused the ACT to come into fruition follow what we're saying over here so therefore the animal was was was worshiped it definitely was worshiped but the person who put the gun to the head is the is considered the person who worshiped the animal you failed to fulfill the Mitzvah of KM but he was the one that did the worship say an animal does worship so that's what so there's another case where the ACT is considered your act even if it was done by if somebody put a gun to your head on the night of seder he doesn't want to eat the matah because matah constipates him okay even though he knows he's supposed to eat a Kaz mat on the night of SED this is my embellishment he refuses to eat matz on the night of seder because it constipates him he refuses so a GU comes and a go puts a gun to his head and says you eat the mat or else I'm going to kill you so with great hesitation he eats matah now he's not eating the matah because he wants to do the Mitzvah on the night of seder he's eating the matah because he doesn't want the go to shoot him in the head he doesn't want to get a bullet in his head so the fascinatingly enough Mar in 21 he sent a to the father of if he was forced to eat mat he discharges obligation even if he was forced the said you eat the mat he didn't eat the mat because he wanted to do the Mitzvah he ate the mat he didn't want to get a bullet in his head so there is an opin say so maybe after you already had the gun to his head he says listen if anyone's going to have to eat the mat let me at least but if it wasn't for the guy that put the gun to his head he would have not eaten the mat yeah that's a good point maybe and aami yeah yeah yeah that's what that's what I think I think you and are saying the same thing so the ran says that there's a when it comes to and AR when your body gets pleasure it's your act normally when you're forced to do an act it's not your act it's the act of the person that put the gun to your head except for when it comes to when your body gets pleasure when your body gets pleasure so it's your act the the the pleasure the pleasure makes it your act so therefore yeah when he eats the mat you get I mean you do get some blood spiritual physical cuz you eat it it constipates but it still tastes okay I mean some people claim not but it still tastes okay I mean to a certain degree so what if you were hungry you so you see normally if somebody puts a gun to your head it's not your act it's his act but if he put a gun J and says eat you're going to get pleasure from the food so now it's your act so so that's the idea that's what the meant that a when he did the ACT he did it with full consent so it's his act as opposed to somebody who puts a gun to your head that's what the it's not the same as somebody putting a gun to because when somebody puts the gun unless it's food unless it's something that you get physical pleasure from it's not your act but it doesn't help us because in the case of somebody was living with his wife he was having relations with his wife it was his act he got pleasure there are two cases where your body gets pleasure when you eat and one one has relations so yeah if you take medicine yeah you don't make a before they drink the water with the medicine but you're getting from this because it makes you better makes so that's what they say the when you make a you're not making a on the medicinal benefit you're making a on the pleasure that you get from the drinking or the eating so therefore if you drink apple juice to down your pills then you make a br but if you drink water water is an exception water only gives you pleasure when you're thirsty if you're not thirsty you don't get pleasure from the water you get pleasure from Apple Juice because the pallet enjoys it but water the enjoyment doesn't come from the pallet the enjoyment comes from the relief that you get from quenching your thirst so therefore you only make a on water when you're thirsty if you drink water to down a pill or you drink water to get a bone out of your throat if you're thirsty make the BR if you're not thirsty you don't get the pleasure yeah yes so we're saying it according to Ren very good so according to R he got the no so so according to it wouldn't be it wouldn't there's a a certain spiritual phenomenon that when you eat pork it's meaning to say it you don't you don't have you you lose your appreciation for spirituality you don't feel the spirituality you don't feel the the spirituality of T because you Dam damages the spiritual component so so we said the an onus it's not his fault he was R raised in a monastery no but according to Raven SCH you have to bring a carb in oh so according to it's not an so it's so the truth is thei Prague says that if somebody let's say has to eat he has to eat pork because otherwise he's going to die so he's he's obligated to eat the pork so the PR say it won't be it won't compromise his spirituality because he's eating be when does pork compromise your spirituality when you're eating it is when you're eating it against the I have an acquaintance yeah who didn't know he was Jewish his life right and he found out later so all the fact that he didn't know he was Jewish is that Hest or is that it's a good question so look at the rambam number 11 in the reference sheet right he says what's oh so not this r there's a rambam that I saw I think in the par that says that somebody who didn't even know he's Jewish so the problem is getting bigger and bigger and bigger a carb the problem is getting worse every moment why does a ten sh need to bring a carbon even if somebody was living with his wife the act of living with his wife is because he got pleasure when you get pleasure from the ACT even if it's an Hest it's your act so when he's living with his wife while she's mening it's definitely his act you can't deny that and yet he doesn't have being a carbon because the r says what what do you expect him to do there's nothing that he could have done to prevent that from happening he had no way to know that his wife was going to become a menting woman in middle of their relations and he's poter so why should I after being a carbon why does ren say that a has after being a carbon and the Ser made a distinction but the distinction is not good enough it's true there is a difference between putting having a gun put to your head versus the cases of did it with consent so it's his act a person had a gun put to his head it's not his act unless he got pleasure Okay I accept the distinction of the but the distinction is not good enough you see that somebody was living with his wife and his wife became a ready woman he still hasn't he's still absolved from bring a carbon he doesn't need to bring a carbon so why should I need have to bring a carbon it's a very difficult Problem by the way if theoretically yeah tomor is built the people who did a before have to bring yeah yeah Alisha when he was learning tarah how to lamp he accidentally tolded the lamp he he brought the oil to the fire he said when the Bas of M is going to be built he had a little notebook he said I'm going to have to bring a carbon I remember when I was a child I was seven years old I learned this with my grandfather so Rish said I'm GNA have to be a very fat a very fat sin offering because number one I tilted the the lamp and I brought the oil to the fire so that's as shab's desecration and also I violated the Rabin decree the rabbi said you're not allowed to learn Torah to the light of a lamp so because I did two sins I'm going to bring a fat cow so my grandfather said if he did two Aus you should have to bring two sin offerings good question yeah I know so he wanted to see I was seven years old I didn't have to answer the question I was seven years old I did not answer the question I wasn't a very arod seven-year-old now I don't even know the question is my grandfather asked me said of course you don't have to bring two sin offerings one was a Rabin violation and one was that's right that's right exactly so bring he had to bring he had to bring a cow because he desecrated the shabas but he made it fat because he also did a Rabin he also violated Rabin decree so for the Rabin decree you can't bring a distinct sin offering but you can make it a fat cow but anyways that's that's what I remember when my obviously my grandfather was a was uh had a good Knack at education because I still remember it so yeah okay very good exactly it's a temporary substitution we say the carbonis it's a temporary substitution for the carbas but when the B is built you can't rely on the ah very good it's never going to be very good so anyways so I I don't have a good answer to my father's question I found number 16 in the reference sheet a little bit of an answer it's a you familiar with the it's a one of the look at the wording of the number a person has to bring aering that he but didn't take enough precautions to prevent himself a lack of philosophizing a lack of contemplation a lack of meditation brings a person to sin so so apparently it's possible every with enough contemplation I know it's not a great answer AR could arrive every person has the potential to eventually get to the truth could uncover and discover the the proof is Abu AB ainu was born in a completely SEC well he was he he was raised by idolatrous parents and just by contemplation and thinking he was able to put together the entire doctrine of the Torah he first he began by contemplating the heavens and the stars and he came to the realization that there must be a Creator now if there's a Creator the Creator must have a purpose so he spent many years philosophizing and contemplating what is the purpose of creation and eventually he was able to piece together the entire doctrine of the Torah so therefore the has a certain element he's not the same thing as somebody who lived with his wife and she became a person could sit like Aristotle Socrates the entire day and night you'll never be able to Divine when your wife is going to start menstruating I mean unless she's getting very edgy with you maybe that's a different story but otherwise I'm just saying unless to predict the future you can't predict the future future by contemplation contemplation won't help you unless you have telltale signs but something where there's there's no unless there's some telltale signs you'll never be able to Divine or figure out that your wife is going to start menstrating in middle of the relations thank you okay there we go can send me the bill after this year so so that the r rightfully says what could he have done there's nothing in the world that he could have done to prevent that situation where his wife began to menstrate imiddle of the r there's nothing that he could have done to have foreseen that so he's saying that it was an unusual occurence yeah it was totally unexpected it was not in her period She didn't show she didn't exhibit any signs that she was going to start to menstrate unlike the tin shisha you can't say that there was Zero that he could have done maybe if he would have contemplated more he maybe would have sooner arrived to the to the idea of religion now the truth is I we're all the question is what are we about right there are many levels of spirituality that we could have gotten to if we would have spent more time contemplating so in our current state there's no way that we could be held responsible for not doing a lot of things a lot of levels of spirituality and mitz observance that there's no way that we could perceive that we're expected to be at that level there's things that we should your is going at some point yeah and there's possibility that you she will do it exactly when you're having relations is a more practical thing than compare a person no no there's no way question is then my answer to myself yeah you could never have relation with your wife exactly because there's a possibility that that point a person exactly a person a person has to have relations with his wife so you can't tell a person ever to have relations with his wife you know somebody said how are you allow to impregnate your wife it's to give birth to a child so says you see that anything that's anything that is implanted imprinted into the nature of the world we don't treat it as used say ATT by saying you should open your M fly am might comeing okay all right so so anyways so so you see that everybody's a on a different level I know it sounds provocative might sound provocative to some people but you see life is a learning process as life continues you discover more and you learn more so there are many things that we were considered an owners for you know I I I you can really see this if somebody becomes religious somebody became so we're not really KN it's a which means to say that's right which means to say that there are people that are newly religious that you cannot expect them to be at the same level of religious observance that we're at at this point you can't expect it from them I mean the guy was growing up in a kibuts in an atheist kibutz and for the first time he's decided that he's going to make kidish on Friday night so you want to expect this guy to now think that he's supposed to go and learn eight hours gumar on chabis at his level right where he's holding at his level of Mitzvah observance is that he's going to start making kidish he's not ready yet to turn the television off he'll get to that level Maybe in a few months time but he's not there yet and there are many levels that we are not yet at right levels of religious observing that we're and we cannot either be realistically expected to be there we can't be religious we cannot be expected to be like rer right you know be on his level of religious observance so you know so we're like a in relation to many levels that we could eventually get to just as the Kik is a right for of the levels that we're currently at so everybody's holding at a different level and everybody's a in relation to certain future M no you would have to bring a but there no you would have to bring a but you have to bring an an is is a sin offering for for things for sins that relate to thought they an also tones for things like lanara things that you can't bring a carbon for because they don't involve an act there's never being no but there is a little bit of a to being an oh so the truth is if somebody sinned in his thoughts or if he sinned with something that doesn't warrant so there is an obligation of right yeah holding him to a much more stringent level than all the other level no we are we we're also held to that level not the no so because we're not doing anything that warrants a but we're doing things that let's say warrant Ana so we're considered right already know no so there is let's say for example we do something I tell you there's a there's AAL theel says that on the yard site we discussed this when we had to share on the yard site candle that the that the Nish goes up a madga on the yard side the Nish has an when you say the should have an alyah that's something that should be said specifically or especially on the yard side because theel says in in in shavan that that's when the the Nish goes up a level he says every year on the yard side you know why they fast you know what what does why does the person fast when his father or mother has a yard side because there's a new den you're going up a level so the higher the higher uh level of spirituality that you're at the more you're held accountable we're held accountable things that the kib is not held accountable the higher the level of spirituality you're at the higher you're held the higher standard you're held to so since the is going up a level so now they're they might hold him accountable forus or shortcomings that they didn't previously hold him accountable for and therefore you fast to help the pass the din he gives that theel gave an example theel said there was a very big stic that oh very good that's what what I quoted you in the safer that's what I quoted you in the safer I couldn't remember what I quoted you in my safer for and that was what I quoted you in the before and now I remember look at the look at the shear on the yard side and you'll see that's why I quoted you in the sa that's when a r when I asked the rabbi when I was young can I do this and this or eat this and this he says I wouldn't but you so other words his spiritual level yeah maybe okay one of theab American Rabbi Rabbi who was on the committee of came said to me I know you're right but I'm expected not to shave you know I have a TR say where I say I don't understand why you're not allowed to shave the say you're allowed to shave they used to trim their the mustache because it interfered with the so the all the say you're allowed to shave because it's something that's done frequently so said that by that same token somebody who frequently shave should be allowed shave I never understood what the not but you know what it's become so grain that you don't shave very good that's why they didn't prohibit trimming the mustache because the whole thing is they didn't that's right so the truth is if you look at my tra I don't really see a reason why I shouldn't ah maybe okay well we assume that our loved ones are going up on the ardite they're not going down there but if assuming so assuming that your loved one is going up on the yard a story of a big S that was held no because that's not up to you the fasting the real says is because he's going up madga so now they're going to hold him to a higher standard we gave an example of a sadic who got mud or something stuck on his Boot and he carried the mud and I don't really understand it because it's it's not a whatever it is for some reason he was car he was held to such a high spiritual standard that then then they judged him on what he was then he till then they didn't judge him on that now they're going to judge him on that so it's the same thing that uh that I'm saying we're going to get to levels when we go higher and higher higher level so right now the fact that the the fact fact is there are certain levels of spirituality that we can't be expected realistically to be at so we're like a ten we're not an O we're called a you know why because maybe if we invest invested more in our spirituality we might have been there already so we're but we're like a sh we're not considered Sinners we're not going to get punished but we're not totally off the hook for it either because we could have invested more and maybe if we were more serious about our spiritual Pursuits maybe we would be there so therefore my idea is like this and I think that it's definitely true that there's a certain every person has a spirit spiritual levels for every single human being that they are considered a in relation to that spiritual level and they're not considered a they're not going to get punished for it but they're not either totally off the hook for it and that's why has being a carbon for the shabas destion because who knows maybe if he would have spent more time contemplating he could have gotten to that level and he could have avoided that shabas desecration which said that the foremost of obligation of every human being what's the first obligation to think think about life he says all religious observance or connection to Hashem has to begin with contemplation he says that's the first of a human being to think if you don't think about life I mean it's really amazing that the there are atheists that claim that there was a primordial oo okay they said that the primordial oo through natural selection I don't know evolved into galaxies now the truth is they're already discovering that the the the universe spans hundreds of millions of light years I mean originally right they believe that the world was static and then they discovered that the world was expanding but Einstein denied it inin but then he had to admit it dimensional so constantly expanding constantly expanding so originally Einstein when they had the hubbles the H hubbles the the so they finally discovered they heard the Echoes of the Big Bang so they finally first of all determined from this Echo that there's the world began at some point not like the the Greeks believe that the world always existed and they also discovered that the world was expanding now initially Einstein was very uncomfortable with that because it was an expanding world right that means the world had a starting point if the world had a starting point you can't have a starting point unless somebody unless a a reality that supersedes time and space something had to some reality that that that goes beyond time and space must have caused that beginning that's time and space is time is space so there's a God that's greater than time and space that supersedes time and space it all began and then Einstein came and he saw the Hubble's telescope he said you're right right the world is expanding that means the world had a starting point and he said originally I didn't want to accept that because you know until then it was assumed that if the world is expanding there has to be a Creator so they said no there was a primordial ooze right so the primordial ooze what was the primordial ooze right my toothpaste is infinitely more complex than than the primordial lose I mean your toothpaste is full of complex compounds and I mean you're you this is your thing you know right I don't have to educate you on this you're you're a pharmacist right but you know toothpaste is very very complex so what was the primordial lose it was a it was a non-complex thing and how did it evolve I mean who gave it the how did it you know if if the primordial is going to bump it has to have some sort of capacity for motion what conferred the primordial with that capacity from otion and how did it bump in and become these galaxies that SP that that span hundreds of millions of years what so out yeah I mean they're starting to realize that the world is so vast it's a so and only that you have one tiny planet that's a speck of a speck of a speck it's and and and and all the conditions that are necessary for life to be cultivated on planet Earth you have to have the perfect distance between planet Earth and the Sun and and you have to have the right um prop ratio of of of nitrogen and oxygen and hydrogen and so I'm just saying that came from the human body that's right so what did The Atheist say there's a primordial lose so now you don't have to believe in God because you made up something called the primordial lose okay natural selection does occur to an extent there is some natural selection but that's still a big jump from saying that there was a premortal ose that evolved into endless expanses of universe a person has to think right a person has to think if you you look in the world you look at the look at the the the the the galaxies look at the thing you have to get to the realization that there's a God in the world once you get into the go once you come to the god in the world you have to there's a purpose why would somebody create all of them he checks that model what about life what about the purpose of life exactly that's right yes I think that's the difference between a and somebody who's living with his wife contemplation can't give you the tools to know that your wife is going to start to menr in middle of relations but every person was we're all at a different level so if we desecrate the shabis because of our our state as a we could also sometimes desecrate shabas you expect every single Jew to know every of shab and to no one is all the there are many things that we have done that probably cons but there was no way that we could know all ofab but there's still you can't say that you're going to totally offl you can't complain total innocence maybe if you would have been more religiously observant you would have discovered and you would have known that this isab so that's why I think a has to bring the carbon and it's not comparable to the person whose wife began to menstrate imal relations now I give an example number three number 24 what do we say in the vi we say so I'm very convinced that when we say we're not talking about the of a go putting the gun to the head when the puts the gun to the head and says make me a coffee it's not your act it's the Go's act that's not something that you need to say Al for the that we talk about oner is all the things things that we didn't do right but we we really were because we didn't have the spiritual maturity at that point to know that this is something that shouldn't be done but we still have a certain element of negligence because maybe if we would have contemplated more maybe if we would have invested more in our religious observance maybe we could have prevented that from happening yeah so I think that that's the that's the that's theat so so give so we'll you know what if you want you can keep these reference sheets and we'll just carry on I figured we'll uh yeah sure not right so for those years I mean what would be enough Kam no so the mer he didn't put on T for five years is he GNA get but it wasn't C him you know I'll tell you what happened a guy came to visit him a serur From a Certain and said you're s from that yesu he says there's no mikah in the yesu and there's a minan that a s goes to the mikah every day so he said don't worry about it I leave out the names of Hashem in the that I write and then once a week I go to come back to the yes and I write right says that's doesn't have to be written in order but and mza not mza have to be written in order so he says all your are Apostle he says now you have to make a recall you have to get back to all of you all the suppliers and tell them so something went so he didn't put on fing so no it's not say but he's not going to be punished because he's an so he'll get for the intention but it's called that said that somebody who wants to do a mitvah and is and couldn't do it he'll get the reward as if he did that's a where you do say that this is Comm of us okay so we'll continue next week we'll continue everybody should this should be a new start thises he is okay tomorrow wife [Music] that's a Christian that's a Christian reading book about a lot of people started going or that it wasn't something unusual to go to Rabbi do the r says that a person s should go to theab