The True Defeat of Egypt | Rabbi Neil Winkler

I've also look I'm timing this purposely next week there are no classes right um because they're cleaning you know they have to claim for clean the um the OU building for PES oh yeah there's nothing happening there anyway um I get these sarcastic things yeah so there won't be any classes next week uh the truth of the matter is it's testa is next. No, not next week. I'm sorry. It's in two weeks, is it? Oh, so we are having a class. No, we're not. Whatever. So, we're not um maybe that's why I thought that was Yeah, but it isn't too. Yeah. So I will be coming here now after Pesak Pes and that Thursday I probably I will be here about an hour away landing I won't be able to be here on time for that class. So that's the 25th of April I believe but the be actually start May but if it's the first second whatever that's when I will be back. Yeah. Start in so you will be Oh, it doesn't start till we're starting the Thursday. Yeah, that I won't be here that day. Yeah. Okay. Uh that's So you'll celebrating anyway. Oh, I I thought you had it. Yeah, you have your notes on the other one. Same one we had last week. Thank you. Okay, there we go. I began the class last week and I'm going to um as I said review what we did. I do apologize for the people who are following on uh website that I'm going to be repeating and uh the uh be what we said last week in order to make the people who are here most of them were were not here last week and I want them to keep them up to date so that we will continue that same concept of what's called I called you know from the journey from freedom to to uh to independence um for the everyone to understand. So hopefully you will bear with me for a few minutes as we review what we did last week. We are really a big problem when we learn the story and when we read the story of uh be before creat Israel had left Mitraim and miraculously and they made their way in the midbar in the wilderness uh just as another side point please let's get out of our brain the idea of wilderness had to be very dry and lots of sand and Sometimes it is a wilderness simply means in mid means in unsettled area a midbar could be a beautiful full of full of far forestry and stuff that's also a midbar because people don't live there but anyway this is a midbar probably was a desert to get through. uh and we are told at the beginning of Shalah that seemingly God had a great idea and there we read that when God had um taken when Israel left um Egypt, God did not have them go the most direct route which would be the um via Mar um main route uh trader route up by this by the shore that that's derim um he chose not to do so uh and he explains why or at least the Torah explains Right. It says karov because or even though it was nearby it's a closer more direct route. Nonetheless, they God chose not to bring them that way because God again means he thought he had the thought they had was the people will regret when they come out and they are facing war. They're fa fearful. Remember, we're talking about a a slave um people nation. I don't know what how to save how to I'm sorry unless I'm sorry how to stand up to a uh a um come on uh any any type of military um war or anything and therefore God says I've got a better idea and he therefore had us go a roundabout um c circuit it the root that's exactly he went around um and they went they went around right and uh fearful that Israel would regret uh that they left Egypt and they would want to return and they would return to Egypt. That is the most common and most seemingly o um clear statement that the Torah makes and explains why God did not have them go directly. And I pointed out that um that which was a very very interesting shot but it's almost impossible to understand simply. There are a number of problems with this that this idea that God had them go on a roundabout um a roundabout route to the Red Sea um to avoid war and the re and and the um resulting I know we say temptation for Israel to return to Egypt. No. So first of all we ask the question okay God did how did that work out work out really good what happens then by the way that they are chased by Egypt and even though they went from this roundabout route right and Egypt comes to attack them and how does Israel respond? Israel says very clearly uh Israel says [Music] um they u cried out to God and um they said I think I have it here in the third source says we we read there what happened um Maka it's good we're just reviewing what happened last week I'm sorry we're going to review anyway I said you're lucky because I'm just doing that. Okay. Um, so we we read what happened. Oh, he creeped parro and the you it was it was 600 it was 600 chariots. It was all a huge army. He was now chasing after these uh freed slaves. And um when they looked up when it's when the Torah anywhere in Tanak says he lifted his eyes, lifted his eyes means he saw from afar. When when you're looking against somebody, not lifting your eyes unless you don't want to see them. uh when it says it is a a specific way of understanding they they look from afar from the distance and they see there is that Egypt itself the Egyptians actually know very usage of the word mitim instead of mitim the fact that it says it doesn't say the Egyptians were looking were um were rode were pursuing them but rather mitan Egypt was pursuing them nation is pursuing this that's how they yeah the thing they saw it not as individuals not as a army it was to them it was it was Egypt Egypt is running after that's a very important thing because that's how they saw it they are after all just being re a few days from being uh redeemed from hundreds of years of slavery. So to them they see this huge empire and they're joining after them. So the heavenly not that the Torah says that no kazal tell us that because sensitive to this day by saying how would they see us malak up there they don't see a mala they see the whole group of people by does not mean they looked up in heaven and saw the a fight going on there it means they saw the Egyptians uh attacking them or pursuing them and what they felt was is as if the whole empire was pursuing that's that's I think a sensitivity to the wording to understand wanted to get rid of that problem. Why does it say mit? Oh, it's a sorrow. Uh but in simple shockwise, it's a a beautiful uh indication of the fear they had. They had such a fear, but to them, it wasn't just a bunch of people. This is this is Egypt. They're running. Egypt is chasing us. It's a very, I think, impactive statement to make to better understand what they were feeling like at the time. And therefore, what happened? what happened um when they see a possible war coming on them uh if they can call it a war. They see they see that they're being pursued and they figure they're either going to be captured or killed. So what do they do? They complain. They are Jewish after all. What's wrong? The cemeteries were closed down, not enough graves for us in Egypt and we couldn't die over there. That's they complain about that. What have you done to us by taking us out of Egypt? You know, in other words, they're complaining why they left Egypt. This is what I told you. This was the argument we made with you Moshe when we were in Egypt when we told you then we told you then um leave us alone already about these plagues and everything so we'll be slaves to Egypt it's better for us to be slaves to Egypt so What happens? They see a possible war and what do they do? They say, "Let's get back to Egypt. It's better to be there." So God, what was your whole plan? Oh, I'll take them on a roundabout route so that in case they see a war, they don't want to go back to Egypt. Guess what? He took a roundabout route. They saw a possible war and they complained that they wanted to be in Egypt. And as we say in the rabbis, what did you actually succeed in doing with your new law? You know, well, God, what did you succeed in doing with having a new route? So, that's problem number one because what happened was they did. And tell me, was that the first the first problem, the first and only war they had when they went went on this route? No. What other war did they have? Or Yeah, actually it was a war because they took this route. Remember God said, "I'm not going to take them by the way of the Philistine." That that route. No good because they're afraid of war. Of what war? The assumption is a war against who? If it's to go not to go by the root of the Philistines, they were afraid of the Philistines. Right? So it goes roundabout. They find Egyptians now attacking them. After the Egyptians attack them and after the they cross the Red Sea, who else attacks them? A Malik. So God, you told them, I'm going to take you on this route so you won't have war. So he takes them on this route and they have now a second war. They're attacked anyway. I imagine who knows what he's doing. But if we accept this approach that this is what happened and this is why it happened, we are really stuck with a problem. God wanted to avoid war. There were two wars. God didn't want them to want to go back to Egypt. they wanted to go back to Egypt. And then the third and to me perhaps the most powerful reason why the simple approach which everybody really believe well that's what it says. You ask any guy whether it's a a sixth grader who's learning schmode in the day school or whether it is you go to the uh to the kale and they'll tell them oh the says this and this one says that that's what happened but it doesn't make sense doesn't make sense and this is the third reason why it says go it seemingly it says that God had them go roundabout, right? And it says because otherwise they have a a change of heart and they want to go back to Egypt. Why does it say God had a different plan as it were? Oh, we won't go this way. We'll go that way. When when you look at the text, it totally disregards what happened before when Moshe was at the burning bush at Har Elohim, which is another word for har which is hari. When he is at hari and at the burning bush and God says to him, I want you to take the Jews out of Egypt. And mo and Moshe said n who me type of thing. He didn't want to go. He was to see himself really ready for such a thing. But he God says to him, I'll give you proof that you'll be okay because when you take them out of Egypt and you're going to worship me on this mountain on high. Well, I know you don't have a map in front of you, but I promise you hari isn't through. It isn't the derim is what when you go north east a little northeast to get out of Egypt into Canaan. That was fair straight northeast. They're going southwest. Totally the opposite. Where is Harai? Southwest. So, what do you mean? Oh, he changed his mind. We're not going to do this. He knew very well he wasn't going to do that. He told Moshe not going to do it. Moshe told the people he's going that don't worry, we're going to uh we're going to worship the Lord at Har. He tells parro that we have to leave and he said, you know what, he says when he says, uh, let my people go before they had spirituals that were sung in that way in English. But it says, "Let my people go." It says, "Vu so they could worship our God." So he knew they were going to go to Hari. He said, "So he told them, "What do you mean?" He changed his mind to go up. So these are the problems that I presented to you about understanding the idea that oh, he's couldn't he couldn't go this way because there might be a war and they'll go back to Egypt. when in fact that he didn't change anything at all. So I'm going to take off one of these problems and as I see what really it is just so I can focus on the other one. Our concept that God quote unquote changed his mind is incorrect. First of all we we have a we say that said it that God God God doesn't lie and he doesn't change his mind. That's in says that to but you have even in you have a story there that Bum says that also God doesn't change his mind. Oops. Forgot that we're talking about now. So there's no concept that he lo he he changed his mind. It says God was afraid that the people would change their mind. That was true. God always knew he had to send this way. But in effect, what the Torah was saying for all of you um should I say um biblical critics who are saying they God didn't even know how to get to the world land of Canaan from Egypt because he went such a strange way. He's going. So God said, "Listen to me, oh you idiots. I know what I'm doing." But God didn't want to go that way because of these problems. But he knew very well he wasn't going to go the way in the first place. So that that worry you don't have at any rate. This is what we're facing. What does it therefore really mean if we can figure that out that God didn't want them to uh to face a war and then go back to Egypt? So I shared with you last week the the thoughts of Ravn wonderful really pioneer in the um uh taking the shot of the to of the Torah and showing real based upon not only the forim that we have and other things like that but even newer things that we learned Benun uh have to believe quote an archaeological book that was uh in the 1920 Journal of Egyptian Archaeology. I don't know if everybody has it in their library now. Oh, you do. You go. How could you go on without it? Yeah. Um at any rate, um there's an episode that uh really opens up things for us that makes this an unexpected source. I suppose the uh this this journal of uh Egyptian archaeology as I pointed out last week was something written by a man a British man by the name of James Wilson. And if you know anything about Wilson's uh arch right against the the um ancients in here you shall see it. In fact he it was named after him. They're going to call it Jimmy Hart for James. That's his last name was Wilson. Wilson Wilson's arch. He wrote this book and he wrote that they found ancient texts. Um and subsequently they did some digging and archaeological discoveries and lo and behold that on this northern coastal route from Egypt to Canaan until Cain to land of Israel or what we called and the Torah calls Derek er that is the highway the Philistine highway because that's where the Philistines live and so on and so forth. They found out certainly that it was under Egyptian military control. They found actually um that from nowadays um Canara to Rafa there were archaeological uh discoveries that uncovered a military Egyptian military bases there belongs to the pharaohs. Some of them are in fact very deep down. They found there from 50 40 50 feet deep actually um sweet flowing flowing water that the Egyptians found and therefore they said it's perfect place to have a military um a military base over there because they had water available to them. Well, some of the, by the way, modern um biblical commentators would claim that such a route would plunge the Israelites into what is a military trap, especially if they were being pursued by the Egyptian army and that running them to the north and only to be found caught by the military bases of Egypt in that same area. And that's why you know he God did not go that way. Unfortunately for these biblical scholars that's not what the Bible says the Torah did but not saying because they were afraid the the Egyptians would catch but rather it says uh the shàuite they want to go back to Egypt. uh not that they were um there to avoid war but they had to avoid war not because they were afraid of being defeated but rather uh not even to be ambushed or something as it claimed but the fear that they would want to return to Egypt and the idea of wanting to return to Egypt and this is about what we got up to last week. So we can start something new here. Says Raun is hinted to actually in the Ramban uh that Hashem had no desire uh to have um no military confrontation. In fact, he had that he wanted that. Uh the only fear was that when they saw it, they would want to go back to Egypt. Meaning what? Not that they would walk back to be slaves again, but rather they would be for fairly independent, but since they didn't have a powerful army, they would turn to Egypt to be their aid. That Egypt would become their military arm. They would stay where they are. They would be independent. By the way, and I'll get to that, many of the places in uh Cananan in Canaan were the small little cities and everything that were under the uh rule and the control of the pharaohs. Yeah, you could live there fine. Just keep on paying us the taxes and stuff. And they would then defend them. Yeah, they would defend them. They would protect them. That was the deal. God didn't want that. What was the purpose of taking them out of Egypt after all? Because they saw themselves as being led by Egyptians. They saw that their food was giving being given to them by Egypt. They thought that water was given to them by Egypt. They saw everything as being given to them by Egypt. God takes them out of Egypt and eventually who gives them water? God. Who gives them food? The man God. Because God says Egypt is not your great um Moshe, your your uh your savior. Thank you. But God is that. And I said it last. God was fearful. Yes, I took Israel out of Egypt. No, I got to take Egypt out of Israel. Yeah. I'm sorry. They should be independent. Exactly. Independent. That's the whole point. That's what say um we say, right? Halashem and Kazal say, "Oh, yes. Oh, praise you, you servants of God." And I'll say, "Yeah, you're no longer servants of Pharaoh." You're gonna say that at the Seder, I'm sure one of the books you're going to have is gonna have that shot. Yeah, that is Yeah, that's exactly the point. And I want to show you that's what this week is really about as to how real that is. Yes. Well, they're not really independent to the pure sense of the word. They're just at this point they're dependent on God. And that's a transition also. Very good. That eventually happen then also that they have to be dependent on God. But they have to do it. God's behind it. In other words, it's not going to be the the world of miracles. Okay. God, give me a chicken. I think I want No, no, it's not going to do that. You have to have a normal life. And when there's need is always watching over you and will help you. You are correct. That's what the whole story really the the 40 38 years in the desert was precisely that to get them to be more independent and to see that they can handle that's why out of the slave exactly out of the slate very good you are correct everything and that's why u I'll get to that when we speak about that one of the reasons that the the the punishment that Israel had to stay in the desert of this that punishment is God's understanding that this generation could not be an independent build estate generation can't because they just the whole psychology was completely different. Anyway, um God fearing that um Israel would return to a dependency on the power of uh of Egypt. the shàu they'll go back and rely on Egypt. That was God's fear. And that's why um he had to take them a different way. Why? Because eventually, if not within a week, where would they meet up the Egyptians at the Red Sea? And what would happen to the Egyptians at the Red Sea? What happened to the Egyptians at the Red Sea? They called out. They complained. They died. They drowned. Egyptians. Yeah. So that was that's the point. God says, "You still think that Egypt is the savior of you." They're not. They're nobodyies. And I'll show you that they're nobodyies. And for me, they are nobodies because he wanted them to be able to see the destruction of Egypt, the destruction of that mighty empire. It's gone. And it says it so clearly, so clearly at Yamsu and you say it regularly. First God said uh first God tells Moshe to tell the people you just stand here and see the saving power of God for as you see today. You will never again for the rest of your lives ever see them like this. And God will fight for you at this point. when you just remain silent. The next time there's a war, God doesn't say, "I'll fight for you." What does he do? He says, "Get an army and fight." Exactly what we were saying. He has to get them a little. But at any rate, at that moment, at that point, what do you see at Yamsu over and over again? uh is e Israel sees Egypt mate alam how they're dead well when that happens and they see that they make they realize what an unbelievable victory and the power that that that God God placed against the Egyptians and therefore as a result now they believe in God. So that is the whole point. When you see this story of them approaching Ayamsu and other things too, you realize it isn't a matter, uh oh, we better run away from a a war, but rather God says, no, no, I want this come to this struggle against the Egyptians to show how they're going to die because that will finally teach you that I am the savior and not they and I don't want and that's why I have to take you round about to Yamsu because that's where they're gonna die. So that you no longer have to say, "Oh, oh, I better go back to Egypt." Now, as amazing as that is, and it is what's remarkable, I'll show it to you why it was a real problem. If you recall, yeah, I'm sorry. There could be a reconciliation between this idea and this Wilson discovery. If there really was an Egyptian garrison there, would have survived the uh not survived and that that they might indeed be okay don't go back to Egypt you can go where you want to but we will we will protect you because we are over here that's the whole point they would survive oh if they were going that way correct oh I see sure they were drown That's exactly and that's why God did that way. So anyway, let me start the para of right? The Israelites were freed from Egypt. Who freed them from Egypt? Hashem. What does the Torah say? paro at um Oh, and when Pharaoh um sent the people away, Pharaoh sent the people away. I just went through 10 plagues, I show you how it was God who released them. The concept that in their idea it was parro who sent is is sort of hinted to in the beginning of that para because after all that night after all the things in the wrote parro got up and said get out of here get out of here you can go oh so parro set up that was still in their heads that's what had said so that's just the beginning also um I I love when when I quoted these quotes before even in the third source there where it says um where it says that he named six times all the same is oh Egypt Egypt Egypt it's it's in their heart and minds that that's what they saw was hundreds of years of slavery of being of being there's a very good word for this in English sometime I'll get up to it subsid subservient to these people and therefore it was exactly right um so this is a very real. And lest we would think, God forbid, that um that this solve the problem for God, don't worry. Now the the Israelites know that I am God, that Egypt ate nothing, and I can beat them. Wrong. And we see it over and over again how Israel were the Israelites even after the remarkable miracles and the especially at the Red Sea, the sea of reeds. What how they all drowned. Even after that, what do we find? They complained they had no they had no food. This is back in says they say we remember we're hungry. We're hungry. We remember the the fish. I said, "We remember the fish that we ate in Egypt." Um, after all for nothing, you imagine get some salmon nowadays. We don't have to pay for it. I'm sorry. you know, the melons that we had and and the onions and the the um all these delicious things that we had in Egypt. We remember how good Egypt was, how wonderful, how delicious the things were. Even after this, they're still saying that. And uh that's the whole point. God wasn't afraid. They'd go back to Egypt, but they would still have that haunting memory. Egypt, they, you know, they had great food there. Now, we had the fish and everything. They forgot about the slavery and killing and that was okay, but food was good. un but that's what happens that it's a very natural thing to happen and um I want to show you that this haunting memory of Egypt great empire continues in the history of the Jewish nation and I wanted to show you that this adoration of of the great Egypt continued even into the era of for example Yeshu Isa that we're talking about approximately um five 750 BCE okay um which is a good time after it is let's say 400 yeah it's a over 500 thousand years after. Look at your seventh source that I shared with you. The Na'vi is Yahu, the prophet Isayahu, he speaks angrily to the people of Israel. Why? What did they do? He says the following. He say, amra. Woe to those who go down to Egypt for for help. I help. Yes. For help. And they rely on horses. What did I tell you last week about horses? It was a new thing. Yes. And what was it used for? The chariots. That's right. It was a military thing. So why were they going down to for horses in Egypt? there weren't any military military protection. The exact same theme we were talking about and it's um and uh and and not only that it says and they also rely on trust in chariots because they have so many and in horsemen because they are exceedingly mighty. But they look not unto the Holy One of Israel. They neither s seek um the Lord. Isn't that what we're talking about? God says, "I got to teach them not to look to Egypt. Look to me. I'm the one." And even in the time of Yeshu that happens and and it goes on, by the way, um as Yeah. He says, "After all," he says, "Oh, I I skipped those thoughts. I'll give the English anyway. Zipians are men, not God, and their horses are flesh, not spirit. So in Hashem, shall reach stretch out his hand. Both he who helps shall stumble and he that is helped shall fall and all will perish together. That's what he says. And then he calls them by such a painful painful thing. He calls the Jews he says you disloyal sons. He says, "Making plans against my wishes, weaving schemes against my will and thereby piling guilt upon guilt. Who set out to go down to Egypt without asking me to seek refuge with Pharaoh to seek shelter under the protection of Egypt while the refuge of Pharaoh shall resalt in your shame. The shelter under Egypt's protection yours to grin." Holy cow. That's exactly what we were saying here. Understood the people of Israel. This haunting thing about Egypt, Egypt. Now, this happened much longer later. What happened at the time? It was they were being threatened by the northern powers, not yet Babylonia. that was the Ashawa the Assyrians and um they would go to that in they get an alliance with Egypt and Egypt it's safe to and God said through he said don't do that I don't want you to do that God wanted you to know rely on me I'll be okay and I'll take care of you but they didn't want that that's what this is all about and if that's not enough we have it the same thing in Hosa Yeah. In the eighth source and there in that eighth source it says here Ephraim has become like a silly dove. Now Ephraim is what is refers to the northern kingdom. Remember that Israel had broken into two after the death of Solomon and the southern was Judea and they mentioned Yemen some and the northern with northern tribes called the 10 tribes 10 but anyway uh they call the 10 tribes that was called also Shamron Samaria or Ephraim because that was one of the it was a leading tribe among the So that's what it says. Oh, he says Ephraim was becoming a silly dove without understanding. Why? Listen to what it says. They call unto Egypt or they go to Assyria. As for the sacrifices that are made to me, says God, let them sacrifice flesh and eat it for the Hashem will not accept that turning down their corb. He will remember their sins and punish them. They shall and they shall return to Egypt. That lest you think that they'll go back to Egypt itself. So what? They'll be happy. He means they're going to go back to rely on Egypt again, right? To align themselves to align theel, right? Okay. And now we get to what's something you might have thought of. This is uh fairly well known. It's in um I have more things but it's from Hosa. I'm not let's go that to Egypt. Okay. So um and that is well wait a minute. Um, we have a mitzvah in the Torah and that mitzvah in the Torah, among other things, uh, what the Torah gives laws for a king as opposed to the ancient and even the old days where kings had complete power. Not in the Torah, man. Torah says, don't be such a big shot. Basically there are more mitzvot that are in that are uh must that that the king must follow than a regular person. We have the list of things he cannot do. We are told in um we told him rock um says that he's not allowed to have rock as opposed to the fact that the more wives one had as a king. It showed his power. That means he had many many because the wives are primarily from other countries and the other countries who want to have peace with you because you were powerful country they therefore would make it the best way to make alliance is to become marry into the you know become an in-law I don't know if that's still true anyway um that's what they did though we talked about melik and everybody says oh had so many lines and I kept on telling I would tell my my students, I promise you, they didn't go, you know, on dates and then have an engagement and then because he had a thousand wives. I said, he probably didn't know all the names. How could he? He may even the smartest of all men, but the idea of him having many wives was a way of keeping peace in his time. That's why there was never a war in the time of the 40 years of his reign. Mo note that shalomo name is from the word shalom. Is it not? So part of the way he tried to keep peace is to keep could marry foreign wives. He fell into a big problem because eventually these foreign wives brought in idolatry and everything and it messed up things. That's why his didn't work out well. But at any rate, so one of the things you can have too many lives is can't have too much loyal. Don't get too rich. Um, you can live what you need and what you have, but rich on the backs of your people. Do you understand how unbelievably forward and and futuristic that idea is in the ancient world that the king cannot take that too much money cannot get risks over the backs of the people that he can't have all the wives he wants? It's unbelievable. But one of the things and what I'm trying to tell you is this. It says loash. This is the ninth source. The third thing he may not have is no. Nor can he have too. He cannot have too many horses. Right. Horses. Yay. You know. Yeah. Well, that's that's what God said to king. I want more more horses. And God said, "Nay." Anyway, okay. So, maybe he didn't. Uh, so God says you can't have too many horses. Why? Because below you may not inflate the needs for horses. Why? He says so he won't go back to Egypt. Well, doesn't mean they're going to go back to Egypt. You can say I mean in fact that one of the things that Schlommo did and they said oh look they did all the wrong things is that he sent men down to Egypt because Egypt was the source of the finest horses in the world even today they say that uh they had the best horses and that's where people would buy the horses. So Islam actually sent his men. He had men who were horse traders who went down there and picked the ones of the goods. But that isn't the problem because in the end, what's you going to do? You're going to rely on Egypt for the horses and the chariots and that's it. And the airplanes and the you can't rely on others and especially not Egypt. That's the honor. Oh, did I say that? Right. Of course. Yes. Exactly. And Israel has been struggling for a long time. Still hasn't gotten there. They could do it themselves. They're finally after this horrible horrible thing is starting to build their own weaponry. Thank God. So they don't have to rely on anybody else. Anyway, um that's it. God was not afraid that the king is going to bring everybody. let's go down to Egypt and stay in the hotels. But rather, I don't want you to get relying on the Egyptians and their horses and their chariots. That's what it says. Because in the end, that's what they're going to see as your great savior, Egypt. That cannot be. And that's exactly what's being. And that's with this new understanding of why did God set take him on a securities route. Why? Not because he's afraid uh that you know of a war when they run back to Egypt, but because if whoever would then face the war, they would want to ask help and rely on the military power of Egypt. And God once again did not want them to start seeing Egypt as the savior when they are not. His job was to take Egypt out of Israel and they had to understand that and that that's the struggle we find all these years if for centuries and centuries stop relying on anything except for God. When you see that as the basic idea, so these things fall into place so beautifully. And at the end we have inim in that is what we call the second to the uh terrible terrible uh curses and a terrible uh um prophecy of what would happen to Israel if they did not listen to God. One of the very last things it says there in the uh 68th verse, right? See how many how many chapters in the Torah have 68 verses. How many um you have of course in NASA you have 76 that's exception anyway. And it says, you know, part of the punishments, God will send you back to Egypt. Hashem will send you back to Egypt in galleys by a route which I told you that you would not ever see again. There you shall offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as slaves and no one will buy. What is talking about here? What say before saying what? Where did God ever say thou shalt not go down to Egypt? Never says that anywhere. Um and and it says uh you will go back by boat like and like God said you never come back by boat. They they went by boat. The whole thing is very very strange. What root? What dera are they talking about? Ah clearly as we've been saying when it says the root it doesn't mean specifically a root but the same way the same fashion you but the is saying is that God will have you return to Egypt as your savior that you'll be relying on them instead of being independent you will return to a dependency on Egypt as I told you never to do again. And in effect, you're going to return to be slaves. That's what the whole play of words over here to a second generation from whose parents were slaves in Egypt. You're going to go back to Egypt. In other words, you're going to be slaves again to them. You'll be serving them again. What a powerful warning he's giving there. And that is whether you're returning them to rely on them, whether you're returning them as a culture or a value system. But that's what God is fear I say fearful wants to avoid. went to Israel to avoid the whole thought that this was the the pe you know the savior this is the people who are going to do us doesn't want them to be enslaved to Egypt not even being in Egypt but to be enslaved with to them as a power and uh the elevator to foraw that was to indeed defeat them defeat the oppressors and that's why as I said that's what happened at Harai. All of this was exposed for B is at Yamsu that the bottom line is that Egyptians were weak, maybe decadent. All of the Egypt died there. So don't again think that they will be your saviors. That was today. So now you're ready for something at the Savior. Okay, you got something to say. All right. Very good. See you session after son.