The Structure of Rosh Hashana Musaf: Malchuyot, Zichronot, and Shofarot by Rabbi Yitzchak Breitowitz

the mus of rashishana is absolutely unique it is unparalleled in the entire Jewish liturgy and for the following reason we know that the basic amida has uh 19 blessings that's the daily amida and then on shabis and Y it always has seven blessings you have the first three Bros and the last three Bros and then you have the middle bra which is given a name it talks about the Holiness of the day whether it's shabas the Holiness of the day mades shabas whether it's y mades is ETC even well is doesn't have a change in the middle but the is seven blessings as well uh shabas both shakas and mus for seven blessings M uh even on rash for forakis and the am is seven Bros the only reason why it's a little different is the third bra is elongated what is the third braad meaning the first is the second is the third is r and Yumer the third braa is elongated with the insertion of several paragraphs Etc but essentially in terms of the number of bros it's still seven and then you have the which ends and as well even though there's a long V at the end of the amid a long confession but the amida itself is seven right Shak the only that deviates from this pattern is the Shon of the mus of rashash the mus of Rashana both days has actually nine bras nine bras and the way it works is the first three are the same as the first three for all Theos with the expanded of the last three are the same you know with with the insertions that you have but in the middle instead of a single dealing with we have three sections that are called malos zos chos kingship remembrance and chauffer blowing that's how you get your nine Bros and after each of those Bros at least in the repetition of the amid some do it even in the silence but most do it in the repetition we have the blowing of the chauffeur now Mal each of those three Bros are structured exactly the same and the way it works is the following it starts off with a poetic p a poetic introduction the introduction for malos is none other thanu this is very very interesting they say when you want to buy a house or real estate generally so what are the three things you look for in real estate is location location location so with filos as well location is a very important aspect meaning we say alenu three times a day if you d three times a day after shakas after minut after M but aleno is a very neglected prayer in many many ways because you're saying at the very end of daving you're saying it on the way out some people call because you say it as you're traveling out you know Etc and we don't pay attention to the beautiful powerful words of alenu which some say were actually written by yahushua B all the way back and the AL the second paragraph of Elena some say it was written byan the man who was exec remember was the person who took the spoils ofuro when Hashem said you're not allowed to take the spoils ofuro and aan was executed in the book of Yeshua but before his death he did shua in fact Yeshua even told him repent before you die and he composed Al Nik and that's why the first three words Al Nik R look at the first letter it is so Al was a wonderful powerful in the Middle Ages when people would die at Al kesem uh they would recite the alenu prayer alenu was connected very much to dying Al Kush Hashem but we neglect it we don't pay a lot of attention to alenu because it's said so often but comes rosashana the special mus people try to have much more cavana than they normally have then all of a sudden alenu becomes that little or that prayer that we kind of ignored the whole year wow alen Etc and the like so this is called the the of malos is aleno where we Proclaim that we are privileged to be the Servants of God after the comes the recitation of 10im from T dealing with the theme of Mal and the SED is very medak three verses from the Torah dealing with malus three verses from the Kim so this is interesting instead of Torah K you actually go Torah three verses from the Torah three verses from the and throughout the mus the only book of Kim that is used is toim there are no other suim that are taken then three verses from Nan and then a 10th verse is from the Torah so it's Torah 10th verse Torah after the recitation of theim we have the the conclusion which in the case of malos is actually the normal in other words it's interesting theim of malos is actually the regular of Shak and Shak and which ends you know this is an important thing to remember meaning does not have a uniquely composed Kima Kaz simply used the generic of the other which makes perfect sense after all I'm sorry after all because if your theme is malos what does what is the of the so it makes sense you don't I'm really sorry I don't know what to do here um yeah what's the speaker [Music] maybe maybe it's my hats here let me move my hat see see if that makes a difference I know the the OU is against black hats but okay yeah uh is this maybe maybe this is better maybe Tak of the Hat okay yeah [Applause] oh raise raise the microphone okay where's where where's the microphone I don't even know where it [Music] is nothing I have a yeah this is a a recorder I mean they put they put it yeah I'm sorry is it long enough let me get a here yeah yeah okay thank you thank you thank you much better thank you okay now we then come to zos and zos is the same thing it has a a poetic opening about how God remembers the Good Deeds of our forefathers ET and he judges us he remembers everything that we've done and then once again we have our 10 verses dealing with the theme of remembrance Pim very important three from Torah three from Kim three from and then we have Torah then we have the which is tailor written foron which ends with the you remember all that is [Music] forgotten there is no forgetfulness may you remember the of which happened on he remembers the Covenant that is the ofos we then come to chaos which same thing it has a poetic opening which is actually very relatively short chauffeur is very short but Aton glaza and mainly talks about the chauffeur of Mount siai the chauffeur of Matan Torah once again 10im that deal with chauffeur blowing uh three from the Torah three from the Nim uh three I'm sorry three from theim three from the Nim and then the last one of the Torah and then we have theim which isas is you hear the chauffer blowing of so first of all uh let's focus on a few questions uh question number one is what is the source of the requirement of malos zos and chos is it a Torah requirement that these things be recited or is it a rabbi requirement like most of the davic the itself is Rabin so would the Mal just be the same as or is there AER requirement to recite these these verses um so the truth is you have contradictory proofs moving in every direction there is one proof that it may be DOA because the gamar in rosashana actually has AA for Mal and chos and that is the following in when it describes the holiday of R so it says the seventh month which is TI counting from Nissan on the 1 of the month you shall have shabbaton a a day of [Music] resta a Rememberance of chauffeur blowing mraes a holy day now remember in is described as Y what is the significance of the alternative description so have a that is not exclusively a reference to blowing the chauffeur but it's a reference to things you have to say Z you have to mention the idea of remembrance and have to mention tra ideas of the chaur so zos and Chaos are actually derived from tra now you then ask the question okay that only picks up zos and chos how do you know malos right the first one so the gar has a that right before this PK about rashash it talks about the Mitzvah of PE leaving the corners of your field for the poor and it ends after it says you shall leave it for the poor right before the r verse it says the words I am the Lord your God and connected since it's adjacent to rash it's as if we read the and is a statement of malos therefore according to this we actually have AA for malos zos and Chau which would indicate that it's a DOA now now granted granted let me point out that even if it's DOA that doesn't automatically mean in the form that we say it so for example you don't see any indicator in the drasa that it got to be 10 verses and you certainly don't see in the draa it has to be you know Torah K first of all it would be impossible to say that the tah requires you say things from the vmn cassu those books were not in existence yet so you understand that even if we say the recitation of malos and chos is a Torah requirement uh it does not mean in the form the actual form that we do it is clearly a rabbi requirement now there's the SRE gives another source for malos and chos from another p and this is a p that we actually say in the mus but this is referring not to the Mitzvah blowing chauffer and Rashana this is referring to the Mitzvah ofos the Mitzvah of trumpets remember that in addition to the Mitzvah of chaur which is only on Rashana and yum Kipper of Y the Jubilee year in the B mikdash only not outside of the B mikdash there were two silver two silver trumpets that were blown now when were they blown they were blown every chabas every Roes every so in the bikash if you would be in the B of mikdash R you would hear not only the blowing of the chauffeur but you would hear the blowing of the as well but again I want to point out there is no of the reason we blow R is because the T says every y Andes has is of course both a y and AES that's why the mishna says very interesting now you understand the meaning of the mishna the mishna said in the bikash they would blow the chaur and the at the same time meaning one person will blow the chaur and two people blow the kotos would be the same time but the chaur sound was longer than the kotos sound meaning they would stop the kotos before they finished the show for because Mitzvah the special mitzvah of R was not the special Mish Mitzvah of R was chur so the schur was Mar and Theos were makos now in when it gives us the mitvah it [Music] says in the days of your rejoicing and your holidays you shall blow the trumpets when the were and this shall be a remembrance before God uh I am the Lord your God so here's what the says the says you can identify in this refer toim ofos blowing and is a reference to is a reference to so although it's a different order right it's but you see all three elements now keep in mind this is actually a very very difficult Russia to really make sense of in Terms ofat because number one the p is not talking about rash so how can you derive a and rash in a PK that's not talking about rashash second of all the reference to blowing in the PK is not blowing a Chau it's blowing kotas third of all the PK is not talking about recitation it's talking about action it says you shall blow and you will be remembered by God so the kind of take and dar regarding the recitation of is really taking the out of context but it is nonetheless a draa of the so it turns out we have two different Torah makus to the recitation of malos zos and chos one is with the of which is in the other is the so both of these would indicate that because these areos ofos from that the recitation of and although not in the form that we do it would be a Torah requirement and indeed when the gamor describes these drug it puts words as it were in God's mouth where says Hashem says recite before [Music] me so that you will make me a king over you say before me verses of remembrance that your remember your memory should come before me in a good way UB and how do you Proclaim me King by the chauffeur so if it puts the words in God's mouth that would indicate it's a Torah requirement and yet there is a counter text that indicates it's vat Torah requirements and that is the following and this is kind of shows the poverty or extreme conditions that existed in Jewish communities over the years uh and that is is let's assume there are two shows you can only go to one of them one show has a chaur but they don't have a Mak meaning they're going to blow chaur but they're not able to even recite hard to imagine but literally of course this was before printing anyway literally if I go to that show I'll hear Schauer but we're not going to dive in we're not going to dive in anything maybe shma whatever they know by heart if I go to the other show they don't have a show for but they have you know art scroll Masters and everything else so should I go to the show where I hear showa for or should I go to the show will I where I hear the daving the Mal and again it's an amazing Church the fact that people had to make choices like that shows you the extreme conditions that people lived under and the mishna answers you go to the place of Chau for even if there's going to be no ding rather than go to the place of davening without the chaffeur and the reason is because chaur is a Torah requirement and all of the recitations of the daving including Mal are a rabic requirement so if I have two mitzvot one is a Torah Mitzvah one is a r Mitzvah then V if I can only do one I V do the T so this is a contradiction to the Dress because this implies that are only MRA so the truth of the matter is most reim actually understand that the requirement of is midra it's not a Torah requirement and that which the gamar and the have the are something that we call you sometimes hear this although we need to explain this a little bit in other words it'll say something is only D and the P that we used is only an now some learn as is kind of a pneumonic memory device in other words when the rabbis made various rules they wanted to connect it linguistically to a Biblical verse so you'll remember the connection but that's not what the PUK is actually telling you in other words there's a very big difference between AA and an aasha is the rabinal interpretation of of what the is intending to communicate to you so when the make a that has the status of a Tor because it is the's understanding of a verse by contrast when something is called es we're not saying that is what the verse means the verse doesn't mean that which kind of answers my questions before it's just a way of connecting it and therefore in is a pure M and the is just a peg as a memory that's how most people learn the in has a very interesting about es he says es is also AA but it's AA where God is indicating his will but in a non-mandatory way meaning usually a is telling me what I'm to do in is saying it's a good thing to do you're not obligated but there's room for the sages to enact which means according to the is higher than aan even though it's not yet a d it's not a daa it's as if has is telling you I'm not commanding you to do this but I'm encoding it in the verses so you'll get the general idea that's a very interesting fittish and that means ASAS are still rabic decrees but they are of a higher level Rabin decree because Hashem revealed that that was his well so this is uh the standard answer who whoever you learn and chos are M and the is the yua gives a different answer to this Thea's answer is that Mal and are but only if you combine them with the blowing of a chauffeur meaning to say it when there's no chauffeur that's Dr when there is a chaur there's actually a mix with the Horizon right okay yeah according to the P that's exactly correct it would be D and uh that's a good segue to Mish the next thing I wanted to talk about a little bit it's not NOA this year but all of us know that when rashishana falls out on chabas we do not blow the the chaur and it's no comfort that we blow the show for the second day of rashishana because let me remind you in spite of the fact that we describe rashishana as one long day Lisa the second day of Rashana is midra and is not and therefore when when rashash falls out on chabas we actually forfeit we forfeit the Mitzvah of chaar although we do get to do it rically on the second day of rashash now why I'm going to digress a little bit because of of your why do we not blow the chauffeur when Rashana falls out on chabas so there's a fascinating m Focus between the B the talud B thank you and the talmi the T MCB says that minor you would blow the chauffer on on chabas it's not a malaka what malaka are you doing nothing wrong with it but the rabbis made a decree that we are afraid in your anxiety to blow the chauffeur properly you might go across the street uh to the rabbi another Rabbi to learn how to blow it and if there's no a you will be carrying on chabas so the made a Gaz imagine this don't blow chauffeur on chabas lest in your anxiety you will carry it and beab now number one How likely is that to happen and especially when you live in communities with Arabs which you're allowed to carry anyway okay so it's a very unlikely contingency and the took away a very precious Mitzvah in order to avoid a one in a million chance of desecration of chabas but this is this is the position of the Babylonian talet this is aanan Shema yavo lest you carry the chaur for Amos in public place that's not enclosed by an Arab toos asked a very good question we do a bris on shabas we do a bris on chabas now why don't we make a gazer don't do a bris on chabas lest uh the parent go across the street and carry uh whatever it is whatever supplies are needed the same thing is possible maybe even more so with babies as always you know this you need and that you need so to gives a fascinating answer listen to the difference to says by a Brisa the only one that's anxious or nervous will be the parents or maybe the moel so if they start carrying stuff outside other people are going to stop them so we're not worried for shabas with chaur if the Bala cannot get a good sound and he has to go across the street to to learn how to do it better everybody is going to be B everybody is going to be confused everybody's going to be anxious and therefore they'll forget to stop each other because they're all in the same predicament right so to M between chaur and Brit okay but be this it may it's the position of the B that the eer of blowing the chauffeur and chabas is only MRA because of the G of Shema yavo thei has an extreme view the other way they actually say t you're not allowed to blow the chauffer in Russ and they derive it from the discrepancy between par and R is described as a remembrance of chaur inas Y now I had already mentioned was used foros but but thei doesn't use it for that and thei says this is how we reconcile it when rashash falls out during the week y a day of blowing when it falls out on chab you remember the chauffer but you don't blow it so thei actually sees in the word TR a directive not to blow the chauffeur and chabas it's a Torah directive not to blow the chauffeur now the question is why I I don't know why meaning we'd have a problem why would the Toyah say not to blow the chauffer and shabus so again we don't really know but but the the reason that's often given is that the function of the chauffeur is to dispel the forces of judgment and convert them to Mercy and shabas is a day of RA a day of complete mercy and therefore you don't have the negative forces of din shabas and therefore you don't need the power of the chauffeur to dispel the forces of goow well no because the answer is we have the other verse in other words we have Toops what happened here you have to reconcile both verses I'm sorry sometimes I think I should have been I don't know okay okay sometimes I think I should have been born in the 1800s whatever it is before this before all of this stuff but any anyway uh we have two verses I mean that's the problem you're right if we only had zikr I would never blow it but the problem is I got the other verse y tra you got to blow it so one verse says you blow one verse says you remember how do you reconcile it Tami says you remember on shabas and you blow during the week so this is a big the sh by the way I just want to point out the b in R actually brings this as a possible suggestion it's interesting but it refutes it meaning this is a very interesting point that sometimes the B will have a what's called a hav Amina an initial thought that it dispels but the havina in the B is actually the masana the conclusion in the Yami in fact this is one of the proofs that the people who uh edited uh the talud or redacted the talud bavy had were aware of the USI which was earlier and indeed this might be an example where they bring what the USI says as a conclusion and refute it but be it does it me I want to point out that although normally if there's a the and thei the is like the B and indeed if you look in the the reason that is given for why we do not blow chaur when rashash falls out on chabas is because of the Rabin decree that people might might carry but in the daving the USI position actually is incorporated because you'll notice when rashash falls out on sh let's say we say You have given us right so it says this day of remembrance so during the week the day of blowing when rashishana falls out on chabis every reference to Y tra is changed to now you might not have noticed it but this is actually the US's position being Incorporated in the that which is in is the reason why we don't blow a chauffer whenas yeah ah so so here's the problem this is exactly the Kasha that the B asks on on the because the mishna says in that even though we don't blow the chauffeur when falls out in chabas they did blow the chauffeur in the bik so if you would be in the bik you would hear toau not only that in the ra according to Rashi this is only the bikash according to the r the whole city of Y has the din of bet mikdash according to the rambam they blew chaur we would call it the old city whatever the whatever was Yim at that time now the B asks the question the B asks the question if Z tra is a Dr gura that says that when rash falls out on chabas you don't flow chaur then why would you do it in the B mikdash if it's a Gaz lest you come to carry so we say in the B mikdash people more careful they were more uh conscientious but so because of this the but even the USI would have to admit that Lisa the Bas of Mikes was a different type of zone now it's interesting I want to point out um two things about this again I don't want to since it's not no GAA this year but I but I'll give you a case that Taz brings which actually would have applied this year theoretically the Taz dealt with the following problem rosashana that year just like this year was a Thursday Friday shabas okay so this is the one time one and only time where the B have to go through the three the dreaded three-day right but remember it's still K to live here because in they're going to have it for suus Andis as well we just have it for for rosashana uh so here was the situation Unfortunately they didn't have a chauffer for Thursday they didn't have a chauffer so they dive in first day of rash without a chauffeur second day they delayed daving hoping that somebody would bring a chauffeur nobody brought a chauffeur so it's Friday afternoon and they figure okay it's F Fallen we're not going to have chauffeur we might as well accept chabas early now this itself is actually a very interesting question that'sa are you allowed not just rash y are you allowed on yum to accept shabas early now this would be relevant even in erel on the first day if anyti is on Friday it's relevant on Rashana like this year where the second day is Friday in y could be Friday some say there is nothing wrong with accepting chabas early on the yam because you're only going up in kadha the Holiness of chabas is greater in other words you're not allowing yourself to do anything so make chabas early others say it's a little bit of a denigration to the Holiness of the Yum to kind of imply that yump is over and I want to go into shabas this is a perennial issue as sh rabis uh face this this all the time because everybody always wants to make an early shabus particularly in America actually it's less so in ER to so Al the the custom is increasing here as well but in America everybody wants to make an early chabus and one of the difficult procedural questions is can we make an early chabus on yum at least if it's yum Shen even yisha apparently the Taz is maintaining they were allowed to do that so that's not what not his issue so they didn't have a chauffer on Thursday and they didn't have a chauffer on Friday their maabo shabis early and all of a sudden as soon as their maab shabz somebody runs into the show I found a chauffeur now if it already would have been Nightfall Russia Shan is over at that point the chauffer's MS I mean there's no point I mean there's certainly no point it's not rash but the problem was or not the problem the opportunity was the sun didn't set yet it's still Friday afternoon but we were maal shaas can we blow chaur when it's the second day of rashash but we already were maab shabas so the Tas I'm not sure this this must have been an after the fact shil meaning I'm not sure he could have been asked at the time but the question was presented to to him later I don't know what the Gila actually did and the Tas gave two reasons why they were permitted and since they're permitted they're obligated to blow chaur with a reason number one is this was called calat shabat meaning I accept chabas early so chabas takes effect right that's how it works chabas takes effect when you accept it early but you did it under a mistake had you known had the Seaborn known that the chauffer was coming they surely would have waited they wouldn't have accepted chabas had they known the chauffeur was coming therefore their acceptance was under a mistake and it is therefore an invalid acceptance which actually means after they hear schauffer they have to accept shabas again that cabala Shabbat was invalid now this answer may be very interesting for for each of us as individuals let's assume you accept shabus early and then you discover that the lights were not turned on or off in the next room and had you known that you wouldn't have accepted chabas without fixing the lights there may be a that you're allowed to do that based on the idea of but then he gives a second reason which is more of a lum reason and the second reason that he gives is that accepting chabas early does not make it the next day meaning like this this this this is Friday this is the second day of Russia sh accepting chabas early does not mean I've made it Saturday it just means I've brought the restrictions of chabas into Friday but it still has the den of Friday and because it still has the dinner Friday the laws of Rashana are still going to apply now this has a lot of repercussions uh an example would be if I accepted chabis Friday afternoon and I did not DAV Min of the weekday can I DAV a weekday Min after I accepted chabas according to this I could because it's still a weekday or the counting of the OM well we know that if I miss a whole day of counting of the OM a whole day if I miss the night I count in the day without a braa and then I resume my count with a braa at night okay if I missed a night and a day my counting is no longer complete so I'm not allowed to make a braa anymore I have to hear hear the braa from somebody else or the like so let's say Friday Thursday night Friday let's say is the the 10th day of the OM Thursday night Friday is the 10th day of the omr I accepted chabas Friday afternoon and then I realized o I didn't count the 10th day of the OM now if I say once it's chabas it's the next day then I've lost a whole day I would be unable to count but if I go with the taza's argument that even if you're maab shabas it Still Remains Friday I would be able to count without a without a the 10th day of the OM on Friday and then I would be able to resume my count so be it as it may these are the two SAS the Taz gives why we would be permitted to blow chaur even after cabala shabas one is cabal shab and the other is cabal shabas does not change the nature of the day it just brings the laws of shab into that earlier period of time yeah I'm confused whyn't of auna when they say oh you know it's Friday afternoon and we still don't have a show and and let's take on sh this early it's such a to me it's such a lack of a like Hashem can do anything at any minute yeah yeah I hear what you're saying on the other hand um well I actually I'll give you a good example on the other hand there's there was a Mitzvah to accept shabas early so it's not like they were simply saying let's go take a nap or let's go to the movies I mean they said we want to do a mitzah I mean want to do a Mitzvah in other words here's the feeling if it looks like we're not going to be able to do this Mitzvah then let's do another Mitzvah in other words I think the fact that it was a Mitzvah I think takes away maybe the lack of auna but it's so important to hear yeah I understand I understand um it reminds me a little bit when the brisker of was in the war Soto uh so you know obviously people spent much of their day looking for food people under starvation conditions the brisar generally was not oek in looking for food he basically he took the position Hashem will take care of me things will come my job is to learn and do mitzvos and teach Torah I'm not going to be worrying about where my food is coming from and generally speaking things happen and he didn't even accept he didn't even accept things from people who would bring him things I don't know exactly how I really don't know how he survived but he basically said Hashem will take care of me so Aram Kipper someone brought him uh some fish some brought him food which is very very not Ben in the warto and he was mipic because here is this thing on one hand I don't like to take from people because because that's a lack of amuna on the other hand since there's a special Mitzvah to eat a meal on AR Kipper maybe here I should accept because when it comes to a Mitzvah I don't rely on on Miracles Mitzvah are my obligation so should I say I'm AAL I don't accept or should I say when it comes to a Mitzvah I should accept because that way I know I'll do the Mitzvah so he was M that he would he would accept the fish which he never did and what happened was as the fish was being brought to the table uh somebody slipped and the fish fell into the dirt or the mud and was even in the warto was not edible so the bris said yeah this was a Sim that I made the wrong decision I should have gone with the the amuna route but the point I'm making is that you see when it comes to doing a Mitzvah there are different shim that come to mind you yeah from yeah I like candles my husband has not yet said right yeah is I have I I have received Shabbat myself lighting candles is that so uh Norm yeah normally that is the case unless you stipulate a woman could stipulate that she's not accepting early if you do it early yeah if you make it tonight but but but normally uh a woman accepts shabus when she lights candles no because you said if you realize only afterwards that you made a mistake that's something you didn't do yeah can you do it after you like so it depends on the T again Lisa Min is not to we don't do it like the T like the taza's first answer it would be permitted but they say we don't automatically pin like that first answer um now again uh everyone knows mosa that um the wife is M chabis normally with li Bening uh but the wife's acceptance does not bind her husband and that's why the husband could uh drive to SCH or or whatever whatever it would be uh so they are different in that uh in that way okay uh now one other one other thing about shabas I digress because of Z tra wasn't their main topic oh I'm sorry yeah um ah okay that's that's very nice that that is very nice as I say the words Z tra are an exact quotes fromr but maybe you're right maybe that is why the Tyra implo the Tyra it's not just the ding the Tyra maybe the Tyra employed like thei to communicate that you don't do it on chabas to connect it to zabas I think that's a very very good point Thank you thank you for the Insight okay U let me mention another thing the Miss which is quite complicated mishna does establish that we do blow the CH in the bikash but remember according to the rambam the rambam the B mikdash did not only mean the temple as Rashi understands it but the whole city of yan was called mikash so here's the question would that apply even today huh like the Ramba like the Ramba so here there's a very very interesting controversy it goes back to the end of the 19th century beginning of the 20th century uh there was a kind of uh an iconoclastic rabbi AKA yener who was talid of a talid of theam s he came to and he had certain sometimes he latched on to things and he was very I'm not going to say obsessive but he was very uh he persistent in pushing certain hakas that he thought were obligatory and he was absolutely convinced that according to the rambam you should blow the chauffeur in your sh even today when rashash falls out on chabas so he went to the legendary Chief Rabbi of Yim who eventually served 70 years he was not he had not done 70 then this was the famous R salant great one of the great great great rabim uh in y and he said to you know you should be M the Basin should be M that we should blow at least in The Old City all there was was the old city basically you when sh in chabas so Salan said no he said no no no we can't really do that uh the rambam number one the rambam himself may only have applied when there is a b mikash then you blow in but not not not St so anyway Legend has it and it might be very well very well be true that that year and some of the years afterwards RAB AK schlesener in his house if you walked by his house you could hear the chauffeur glowing when rashash fell out on chabas because even though he was not successful in getting the community to follow that Min he himself did it now another little addendum to the story that might in fact be legendary rant's assistant R was also a God the Torah very great person he is known as the aderas aderas is an abbreviation David rabit to aderas he happened to be rook's father-in-law but the was a God in his own right and Legend has it when AA y when har was blowing chauffer in his house the aderas was standing out outside to listen to it because the aderas took the following view okay it's forbidden to blow Chau for r that falls out on chabas and we Pas not like even in but if somebody's blowing I fulfill a mitvah so the concept was the guy's doing it anyway I might as well go and listen and be to be now this raises a fascinating problem because we have another rule called when you do a Mitzvah through a sin not only don't you have I'm sorry not only do you have the sin you don't get the Mitzvah now here if blowing the chauffeur was a violation of of the is it a problem of Mitzvah Hab on the other hand the argument is well who did the a here maybe is not because of the says I didn't do anything wrong I'm just listening what what what did I violate what rule of kazal did I violate so you get into a fascinating question now the truth of the M you know the question is okay you're not supposed to blow chauffeur and rashash that falls out on shabas but if somebody does so do they have a Mitzvah Thea and if they have the Mitzvah or they don't have the Mitzvah does The Listener have the mitzvah interesting questions of Mitzvah but raer took the position that in even today you blow now I have been told I don't know maybe maybe you know that there are kilos that do blow Sher yeah yeah yeah yeah it's it's not widespread but but yeah I heard that also and again it is really based on this precedent that goes back to the early uh 20th century the end of the 19th century where lessons are strongly maintained that in the old city one would blow even on CH yeah yeah yeah so there is a gamorra that says the following the gamar says any year where you don't blow in the beginning Mar tra Mar upon Maran is chauffer and Maran is bad things Maran La BofA will end uh you know unfortunately in a bad in a bad way uh so again the mafor discuss is that even a bad sign on shabas meaning some say that's only referring to a regular year where you could have blown but didn't have a chauffeur it would not apply to shabas because chabas has all of the spiritual power of the chauffeur so there is there is a discussion of of of of of that in the way okay Al righty uh we'll stop here have a good uh good week and we'll continue next week [Music]