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The Story of the Giv'onim | Rabbi Neil Winkler | April 23 2026
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In going through Sepher Yoshua,
uh it is the challenge to um not simply
stay here uh stand and uh tell you
what happens next because the fact is
that uh my point in all of these Shim
we've been giving for years is that it's
more than what the text tells us. It's
is a matter of using specifically
the words themselves and the text itself
to see what what is it what is it
telling us as opposed to going straight
to the rashi and to the rad and you know
which I'm not saying is right not is not
good it's very important but I'm very
very strongly uh believing that we have
to be able to understand the simple text
and there thereby understand why our
wonderful
paranim are telling us this where they
got that from. At any rate um
much of the story of of Yeshua and
Yoshua
has to do with the battles has to do
with what was what they managed to um
con conquer. Um it has to do with the um
uh the depart uh the splitting up of the
um specific
parts of the thing and giving them and
settling them by by tribe by tribe. Um,
and
the beginning, the start of the of the
book of Yoshua, however, does include
the stories that we went through and
that we did last week, which is the
story of Akan and the story now of the
um
there.
No, I knew I put her here someplace
there. Um, and now the stories that we
will be going through of the um
of what happens afterwards. Now I we
know that
Israel had been um attacked
uh but they had invaded the city. I they
were set set back. they had to run away
and uh because of the sin of Akan. And
we spent the time last week trying to
figure out why it is that the text tells
us not simply about aan but says very
clearly um as I think is it's on page
probably eight I imagine um which says
Ben is that Israel
who sinned and it was because Ben
took the uh the the procription as it
says here in the wonderful um
translation which I always find is more
difficult than the Hebrew. uh and the it
was it was that which the was the spoils
that they were not allowed to take from
and it says took it and therefore
is so again that whole concept that it
was one man who took this who took it
was wrong and he made a sin and yet the
response of God is he got really angry
at Israel and we tried to go through and
I think we did nicely last week why they
God blamed all of them. Uh why he saw
the sin to be a sin of the entire
community and not a sin just of a beni.
And if you recall, and I hope I do, uh
the sin that we we showed was that
whether one person took it or not,
it was an attitudinal problem that God
saw and that I showed you in the text
are clear.
I'm going to repeat what I said last
week and I apologize for those too who
were here but uh for the others who are
not.
The challenge that God had in taking
slaves out of Egypt
is the fact that
slaves are used to being told what to
do. Do this, do this, do this, and they
do that.
if you know if they aren't told you have
to do that so somebody else would do
them. He takes them God takes them out
into uh the desert. In effect he took
them liberated them from uh from Egypt.
And what they did mostly is complain and
sit there okay and they were watching
the plagues. They were being saved from
plagues. They had Moshe telling them
why, what will happen, so on and so
forth. And they did as much as they
could, nothing. Uh that's what they did.
Sometimes they were told, look, you
better do this or so. But basically,
they did nothing.
Then they had it come out came out of
Pesak and they were told you have to do
these things, which they do. Um
and uh Moshe leads them and they go
through and they complain here and they
complain there, you know, but they go on
comes to Yamsuf. They complain because
they see the Egyptians chasing them. No,
I'm I'm I'm on their side on this one,
man. It's a scary thing. We are talking
about the most powerful empire with the
most powerful uh army and um these poor
these uh masses of slaves are going out
and the only thing they have to fight is
of was with their sheep and their goats,
you know, which doesn't quite
stand up against the powerful um
chariots, you know, and Understand the
ancient world a chariot was the tank and
if you don't if have the chariot and
we'll see by the way as long as much as
hundreds of years later in the time of
of the chaim the time of sha that
whether it was the iron age or not that
the Israel didn't have tanks they didn't
have chariots the powerful um I won't
say allies the enemy ies did have
chariots and that's why Israel was very
always usually the weaker one and the
victories were that remarkable you look
at the story of Dvora and so on and so
forth um
so they frightened they were wait and
what happens God does it for them he has
this uh splitting of the three trick you
know you get to be can go there
And when they were complaining before
this happened, God says to them or to
Moshe actually a very important thing
that Moshe tells to the people. He said
Moshe tells the people stop complaining.
Said God will fight for you. They saw
the Egyptians come. They're gonna God's
gonna the same God who gave me 10
plagues. He'll do this too. God will
fight for you
and you basically shut up and stop
complaining. Uh you shall be silent.
That's what he says. I've used that two
wonderful words to my students over and
over again. Can't say shut up. I said
stop talking.
That's one thing. It comes not long
after that because that's you have the
wonderful
and then
later you see
comes on my lake
and now there's a real uh a a real
battle going on because they already
attacked
and and they weren't just coming.
And what does God do? Why doesn't Moshe
say,
"Don't worry about it."
But what does God say? He tells Yoshua,
I'm sorry. He tells Moshe, said, "Get
up." And he said to him, uh,
he says,
"Moshe
goes to the and he says, Yoshua, get up,
gather a army and start fighting against
Amalik." Why? And I told you crucial
crucial part.
When you get an army like well a better
a population like Israel at the time who
are so used to getting things getting
things we want water okay got the water
for you we're so hungry we'll give you
the man you know but there's no meat
over here what are we going to okay
we'll give you the slav it's wonderful
thing that's what happens after they
expl they cross the sea
now they get real enemy what are their
expectations
Okay, God will take care of that, too.
And God said, "Eh, ain't going to happen
that way. I plan to have you into the
land of Israel in a couple of weeks."
That was that was his plain plan.
You're not going to sit there and have
everything happen to you. Say,
"You have to draw. You have to want it.
You have to fight. I'm not going. Yes,
I'll help you out. I'm going to give uh
the poor 80 80 year old man have to keep
his leg his arms up and be helped there.
Okay, but they'll see that was God.
They'll see it was miraculous. God will
help you but only when you help
yourself. It was Benjamin Franklin who
said that God helped them. That's
exactly why. And that's how you have to
train a a a nation. Eventually after the
of that's what God understood very well.
It can't be once whether you come from
slaves to be an independent nation. He
had to develop that concept that now you
will be doing things. That's why as soon
as they got into Israel there's no more
man coming. Well now they have to work
the you've got to do this. So this
concept that you must do not me I'll
help you right is crucial and that's
safe for Yoshua. Yoshua comes in as and
he now has to tell the people okay guys
this is what we got to do. we've got to
do this. And the brilliance of Yahosua
and really miraculously
was that as I've told you before that
40th 40th year generation that was
complaining and complaining even the
40th year in the desert now goes to
Yahosua and not once in the entire book
of Yahosua is there a complaint not
against God, not against Yahosua. They
pray. They do pray. Oh, we must have
done something wrong. Help us out.
Here we are now with Akan.
God says, "I know one person sinned."
But what happened here?
Probably, you know, his mother-in-law
probably knew about it. That's for sure
thing. And the kids, but even beyond
that, I can't say that because it don't
it doesn't say that. You know what it
does say? They were going to attack the
first time they went to they didn't
attack anybody. They had a parade. They
had a very good time. God says and the
walls came tumbling down and they came
in and said, "Okay, let's pick up this."
They were gone. They had nobody to fight
really.
And now this is the first time they're
going to battle.
So Yoshua sends the spies and says it's
it's the city called I,
you know, if it was the E or I, but
anyway, um they go to the city of I and
they go come and the spies come back and
they say,
"Josh, listen.
Not a lot of people there. We're going
to shle all the whole army.
I'm sure they're exhausted from marching
around for seven days.
Send two, 3,000 of us. That'll be
enough.
And God thinking,
you haven't won one battle yet.
You haven't done anything and you're so
confident that everything is terrific.
Send two, three,000 people. As we find
out, by the way, there were 12,000
people in I. It wasn't, especially in
the ancient world, such a small little
um village there.
And they're so confident God's going to
do it. We're okay. And Godz
and they lose the first of the bats.
What a phenomenally important thing.
And they're panicked. What happened? So
when he finds out that Akan did this,
so was Akan sin? Why would he do such a
sin? Why would he take the booty and the
spoils
if after all God said don't do that?
Because as a senator from New York uh
state said in 1825, I think it was
to the victors go the spoils.
What does that mean? Why would you take
spoils?
Because you think that you are the
victor. Why shouldn't we take that? We
won the war. Got you won the war. I
knocked down all the help. You won the
war. You did nothing. But that attitude
that we are victors when you haven't won
one thing yet,
when you're so sure God's going to do
it, we don't need an army. God's going
to save everything.
No more said. But that concept
was horrible. And that's what happened.
And that's why it says Israel. That's
what God was saying with all of Israel.
The proof of it that they said we can be
and anyway they eventually go back and
they uh first of all they as we learned
last time
they find out that it was Akan. He uh
admits to a sin he is punished which you
know death does that good punishment. uh
he's put to death and uh they go to the
uh the second battle and and with with a
brilliant military way they actually
make believe that they're running away
again and won the whole as city of I
runs out to chase them. they already
have a second part of the army which
comes in and burns down the city and
they when and that's what happened um in
in the end of a eye but what we did not
do is um
that's the bottom of page 11 here was
exactly what I just told you about how
the people of I andrew are running away
I'm not going to bother you because I
did such a wonderful was not explaining
what happened. Uh you know about how
they ran away and how they were sued and
uh it it was
it was a great movie because the way
that the Tanakh puts it in they said the
people of the eye the army ran after
them. Ah we're going to kill him again
and then some smoke. There's a barbecue.
What is the smoke? They turn around and
they see the whole the whole city is up
in flames. They realize ah and they
start running back and that's what
happened. Uh and that's how they were
and they uh the population was the
killed and uh that that's the end of
page 11. I know
and that is what we did uh last week and
that's what I wanted to finish this week
and that is the end of that um battle
with I what we have now is
two things
um the first thing and I'm on page 12
here in the beginning of the eighth chap
I'm I'm sorry the end of the eighth
chapter
per
we have notice I put everything in
English for you. Uh, and I apologize for
the English because only this stuff that
I fixed uh is intelligence. The other
stuff is what they said and I had I put
it that way. I didn't have the time. Um
and you see that it was at that point
where at that time after the defeat at
um of I that Yeshua builds a misbeh
an altar to God where the haral does
that haral come a little bit somewhat
perhaps familiar to you the story of
harval and harim and harval that's right
right near
and that the two mountains are there if
you go today yeah if you gut enough and
go to the the clever of of y And he
goes, "You can see there the harim and
har when I saw that the first time I was
but a little tight." Uh anyway, all
right. So I wasn't but there I and I had
my kids with me and I I was remarkably
seeing
I said look Harriine
was which is full of greenery very nice
and harv
desert almost deserted it's exactly how
it's explained you know they put the
curses where those people are um uh
those tribes standing I higher aval
listening to the curses and on greim
which was flourishing and beautiful
would be tribes that were listening to
the blessings. So um that was always a
kazal I'll say this before and it wasn't
but that's clearly true. I'm not going
to go through the weathers and where the
uh rainfalls fall, which is why it
happens that way. But it was fascinating
to see that. And there is in Haral he
builds an altar. Uh why
this is exactly what God had told Moshe
to do. Um and it's found in the Torah
mean he built a full
um of altar of unhuned stone. Um and um
they offered on it the burnt o offerings
and brought sacrifices and there on the
stones he inscribed a copy of the
teaching of Mosha Abando uh and now
written for the Israelites. This is
precisely almost word for word what God
tells Moshe you should do when you cross
the yard. We discussed early that was it
right when they were cross Yard. Of
course not. you know, they have all
their enemies around them and they said,
"Well, let us go before we fight and
kill you. Can we go to, you know, build
an altar?" And that happened. Of course,
they wait until they could now walk
through these areas they had conquered.
And they went to Haral
and uh as we read, not only did they
build the altar as it should be, but it
went on to do exactly what we are we are
find
that where in a it says that you shall
put put the bless blessings and curses
on there in it gives you precisely what
those curses were then you see that and
that's exactly what it says they all sat
together they all got together and uh
they each stood on either side of the
ark facing the lvim kanim who carried
the aron so they still had the aron
still carried it. Um, half of them faced
harim and half of them faced haral as
Moshe had told him to do in order to
bless Israel. After that, he read all of
the words of the teachings, the blessing
and the curse just as written in the
Torah. Obviously, he took out his he
went through and saw what it says there
a this and this and this and this a and
so amazing. Yahosua did what the Torah
said that he should do that Moshe told
him he would do. He does exactly that.
And as it says here, there was not a a
word of all that Moshe had commanded
that Joshua failed to read in the
presence of the whole congregation,
including the women and the children and
the strangers who accompanied them. Very
powerful. I put that in because that's
an important factoid. certain thing that
an event that took place because it
carries out exactly precisely what the
Torah says. And as I had said in our
introduction to Sifra Yoshua, Sifra
Yoshua is very closely connected to the
Torah itself. Samaritans had not five
books of Moshe but the six books of the
Tanakh. So do the
Muslims. they take these six books as
these holy books. Um because among other
things linguistically also was very
close to Darim and the words that are
used and so on and so forth. Uh and
given the fact that Yeshua was a student
of Moshe and of same generation, it's
understandable that uh the
linguistically it would be very close.
Remember that when we finish with Yoshua
and we go to Shaft, we're talking about
years. You know, language changes after
that time. You ever try to read Chaucer?
They claim that it's English.
Time goes on, it changes what it is. So
that here over here, um that's why I
included this as an important part. But
as we go on in the um I have here p page
12 here we're dealing with the story of
the ga on
very it's very simple givea on because
they came from the city of gaon shocking
right um you know like people from
Michigan are migers anyway the uh
kishmo kinhoo as
as the wife the future wife of David
said about her first husband Kishmo and
he it's like his name his name was Naval
means terrible anyway um
the story of the giver onim is a very
important one here too it ties into a to
a um mitzvah or better not a mitzvah but
a pro a prohibition we find in the um in
the Torah and for that reason it is
crucial the story of the give onim um
and oh I'm such a yeah I purposely
did not um just translate them uh a
because it's too much work for me but
secondly because of the fact that the
pronunation is difficult instead I gave
uh what's what it's that you see in
chapter 13 the synopsis of what uh this
happened there. And um
immediately or very closely after the
victory of the uh Israelites over the
city of I as we see
all the kings west of the Jordan that's
what we call today you know Uda and
Shamro got a west bank I know um in the
hill country in the entire coast of the
Mediterranean up until the vicinity of
Lebanon. When they learned of this, of
the victories, they gathered with one
accord to fight against Yeshua and
Israel. We're going to find out later
on, too. But, okay.
That's important.
Why? Why would that frighten them? Why
would they see that as really a
possible? We're talking about these
these guys who have been for years
walking through a desert and getting
sand between their toes. What are they
what do they have armies military? What
frightened them? And that we learned in
the beginning of Yahosua who remembers
what Rakav said to the the Moragim, the
spies who came to see the city of.
She says
it said all of us are
it says
their hearts melted when they heard
about theatams and
and and that they were coming. They knew
this is a powerful night. So they knew
this is a powerful thing. This is not
just you know 22 guys. This is talking
about about three million people
and they are now crossing over. It's a
huge amount of people just coming over
and invading this this land. The land is
not you know New York City and every
it's the land is the land was an ancient
land. uh and
12,000 coming in. First of all, they
didn't have enough uh you know hotels
for the Jews for the coming to stay
there. That's a problem. But even if it
was just the adults and the armies, it's
a big army. So they were frightened and
they know what had been done for them.
So they're afraid. Okay.
Among them is the people of Gon,
the Gibuitites,
the Givonim.
The story is of Gonium is simple. The
inhabitants of Gon had learned how
Yahushua
had treated Yiko and I. And they
themselves said, "Look, basically they
said, we ain't going to be able to car
to to defeat this this army." No, not
going to.
So they were very clever.
So you know they're almost a little
Jewish.
Very clever. What are we going to do?
What they did is this.
They set out in disguise.
They took worn out socks for their
donkeys and worn out w water skins and
other things which they put in patched
sandals on their feet, threadbear
clothes on their bodies. And all the
bread they had they took as prohibition
was actually they made sure it was dry
and crumbly.
I know some places that give that, you
know, I know I know restaurants like
that too. Uh but anyway, they why?
because they go and tell Yoshua at
Gilgal because that's where the people
now are at Gilgal. Gilgal in the first
months and first years during the uh
wars and the division of the land to the
tribes Israel is the Mah the camping of
Israel was at Gilgal.
Nobody. It wasn't until they had these
specific portions of land that were
given out to them that they started to
settle there.
Even the great tribes, the two and a
half tribes of Ruven God and and half of
Manasseh,
right, who had settled already in the
eastern part of the uh Jordan, they
promised that they would not settle
their lands and their cities that will
keep their families there and some uh
some guarding for them, but they would
lead them into the for the battles in
the land itself. So they aren't anywhere
but in the camp and the camp is Gilgal.
It's there for a while until they settle
down and eventually Yoshua moves the
Aron from Gilgal to where does it go
next after Gilgal? You know Shilo. Go to
Shilo after that. If you want to see it,
you can go to there. It's unbelievable
place. Anyway, good.
So they go to uh the Yoshua who's at
Gilgar with the people and they and he
said to him, you know, we come from a
distant land. We don't live in this
area. We're not of the part of the
Shivat as the guy as the Torah says any
of the um
I have a man mind block
that has grown in the dictionary quite a
bit over the last few years. This is one
of them. It was uh
the the people who lived in Australia uh
were actually the what do you call them?
The
>> aboriges.
The original
the uh um we're not aboriges. We don't
we don't belong here. You know, we came
from Hollywood. We're so we're far away.
we happen to be walking through, but I
found out that you're there, and
therefore um um
let's make an an alliance. Let's have a
we'll make I will make a pact with you.
That's what he decides. So, Israel, um I
got five more minutes.
>> Uh so, Yoshua says, "Hey, man. You know,
I checked the Torah last time I was
here." Torah says, "I don't know if you
really are here for that. I don't know
who you are and I can't give you a pact
because my God said that I cannot do
that. You may be one of the locals here.
You may be an aborigy and therefore I'm
not going to uh I can't uh make a Brit
an alliance with you. So they said,
"Well, don't you know um uh
we will be your subjects anyway." So
Yeshua said, "Well, who are you? Where
do you come from?" And they said, "Look,
we come from a very distant country."
And having heard of the fame of your
God, uh, we I mean, we heard the report
of all he did in Egypt, of all he did to
the two Amorite kings, the Amorei in the
in the side of the Jordan, you know, and
the the Sikhon and right. So our el
elders and the um all the inhabitants of
our country told us you know take along
provisions for a trip and go to them and
say we'll be your subjects make a pack
with us. So we're not from here from far
away but because you're so powerful we
want to be friends. Okay. Um
yeah I know my agent the same thing
happens to me. Uh so
um
and they showed them of course
um and they said and they said look and
I I skipped this part. They said, "Look,
we have a moldy bread.
We have uh old clothing,
you know, and and and obviously we've
been on a long trip." And that's how you
can know that we're not if we were here,
we would have gotten, you know, to the
mall and would have gotten something
look nice to them. So that's what they
said. And as a result, therefore,
uh those involved took their word
because of their provisions and did not
inquire of God. In other words, Israel
said, "Yeah, okay. I guess so." And they
didn't ask God, "Uh, are they lying or
not?" Right? So, Yeshua established a
friendship with them, and he made a pact
with them to spare their lives. Okay? We
won't kill you. You know,
you know, you have to clip your
fingernails, but you know, we won't kill
you. We're okay. And the chieftains of
the community gained them an oath, a
shuv
promise, promise, promise, right? Um
after three days, um they found out that
liars, liars, you know, they're actually
were completely untrue.
Also known as Iranians, but they
um and so um
They found out what we're going to do,
but they they didn't attack them even
though they had right to do so because
they had sworn to them in the name of
God that you know they wouldn't
well the whole community who found out
what happened you know communities do
they probably have um opposition people
and they probably you know dancing in
the some some place in Tel Aviv
complaining about something and they
muttered against the chief
You know what what did this guy do? Why
do you do that? We should we should kill
them. This is that what we should do. So
they said the they said to the
community, look, we swore to them by God
and therefore we can't tr touch them,
but what we'll do we they made them
of
just wood cutters. Isn't it easy? No.
Huers of what? wood and they would use
them and drawers of water drawers, you
know, the same thing and for the whole
community. And Yeshua then before that
went to them and he asked them, "Why did
you deceive us and tell us you lived
very far from us when in fact you're
living right here and because of that
may you be cursed? Never shall your
descendants
not be slaves." But again, this your
thing, it'll be wood cutters and water
drawers for the house of God.
Now, that's he's going to happen be not
Gohan and Levia, but they're going to be
of that. So, that's what happened. And
or or so we would think that's what
happened. Of course, that's not all what
happened.
And what happened afterwards
and that is um
an interesting thing which happens with
then when when as we'll see in the next
time
the these
alliances against Israel I those dates
I'm talking about uh who said in the
beginning of this perak that they got
together and they it's be against
Israel. Um
they attack the Gonim the and the h the
city of Gon because they said you're
helping them. You know
what's going to happen now? Well, Israel
have to now defend them. But that'll be
next week. We'll see you when something
happens then. Okay. All right. Good.
Have a good shabas. Everything should be
well.