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The promised land but what land was promised? | Rabbi Neil Winkler | July 17 2025

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It's a different class which I suppose I would entitle as what is the promised land and you will see as we go on I'm going to go through the the the specifics as to how the Torah Tanakh really sees what we call Eric Israel and it might be surprising to you. Okay. Um we've been going through the book of um and the fact is we got to the point where uh the end of midbar is a time when uh the portioning of the land of Israel is given by lottery to the specific tribe of the tri that taking over that area. And uh for that reason because it's at the end uh I'm I it's part of our conversation and uh study of of sea bidbar um and here we are at the end of the bidbar. Now, in order to understand that, not only that, but for the whole rest of the Torah, you have to always remember that the people of Israel are now standing on the border that if they wanted to tickle the their toes into the Jordan, they could and cross over and they'd be in what we would call Arch Israel. >> But they weren't on >> in sea midbar sea. we have defi what's defined at midsiz this is no longer really midbarin this is up on the other side this is already on the eastern side of the uh border of Jordan the eastern side and um there behind them are the nations of Ammon and of Moav and a little more to the east is Midian and up on uh on top of that are the Emboi uh nations led primarily by the king the uh reigning of was it rei not the r a i n the reigning of um the king of og melith king of bashan and uh and >> what >> you started that >> no I discussed the l the yes you're right I discussed the water the war the battle attle of Israel who then took over that land and that's crucial for this class because when it comes to dividing the land it does include the land that they took over of and og and think about this this is a part of the land that's in the eastern part of the Jordan was that really part of the land or not? And that's what we're going to discuss. It uh basically uh was it and I'll probably repeat this. Was it really um the the promised land? Yeah. the promised land when did God promise the land of Sikhan og from initially that was supposed to be part of the land or was it not part of the land but when Israel came and senog attacked and Israel then defeated them and actually settled in the land God said you know all right you can have that too that so that's the question. It's part of the questions we're going to go through. Was it supposed to be part of the promised land? Was it promised? Was that part promised or was it not? >> It's partly promised. >> Partly promised. Yeah. What? >> For the half tribe. That was what the tribes. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They two and a half tribes. Correct. >> Two and a half. >> That's correct. That's what we said. Two and a half tribes. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. It was Manasha. They called the mana and the other one called Sh. Well, I know it's Buddha pastor, right? One's one side is Buddha, the other side is pure. Same thing here. One must be mana and the other one's sh >> two tribes and one and a half of the third tribe. How's that? Okay. >> I thought it was two or two. >> No, >> no, there are two full tribes. Ruven and God and only one uh family from Manasha wanted to stay there and the other part of Manasha went uh the other side on the western side. >> Um >> just stayed >> Yes, actually Manasha had two portions of land. Correct. Lucky guy. Uh any rate and um the question becomes in effect so what land did God promise? What was the promised land? Was it the land Israel? Was it Erat Kenan? Are they the same? Are they not the same? um what are the boundaries of what we now call Eat Israel? What is included in this geographic area? Now throughout Tanakh, believe it or not, we have very precise and uh borders that are given. Unfortunately, they're not the same. Um the um most of the time um well some of the times I should say we have borders that are limited roughly to what we have here today as the state of Israel. Um and uh and the extreme it is expanded to the expansive def definition goes up to all the way the uh the high the Euphrates River which is basically in Iraq that that not a bad idea but that was in one of the in some of the borders they say that Israel will extend to that farm. So does that mean it's part of the promised land that God expected us or not? Or is it just the other ones that says no, it's only the Jordan and that's in fact what the uh the in the para of Mat where we go through the specific exactly limitations. It basically goes you know down the Jordan not anything higher than that. So it depends. So let's uh see what we do um in specifying or it's concentrating on primarily now this year um the one area that is um east of the Jordan which is the one that's primarily talks about expanding above on that um northeast some of You uh who uh enjoyed reading some history um may recall that the Jabotinskys, the um those who would be liquid nowadays certain verics, they had a um cry in the song actually. Shalan, there are two sides to the Jordan. This one is ours. So is the other one. That's what the war basically means. That both sides of the Jordan belong to us. The revisionist is they're called. That's what they did. That's what they called. And the pre-state revisionists made that very clear that that was their expectation. When you remember that the promise of the Balfur declaration was that there be a Jewish state in Palestine. They saw it as uh a Jewish state of Palestine which included today's Jordan both sides of the Jordan River in other words. And uh as later they argued they not the revisionists but rather sometimes the British and we didn't mean that Palestine would be a Jewish state but that in Palestine we'll cut out a part of it that would be a Jewish state. So what therefore eventually happens 1923 I believe it was um the promise of the entire palace what was called Palestine was changed primarily because after World War I was over remember the bath declaration was in 1917 World War I was wasn't over in 1918 1919 officially the um what we call or used to call in the United States the armistice day that was in in November 11th 1999 19. So at any rate, um, when that happened, they gave a whole chunk of the Palestine to the Hasheite family because they were one of the one of the the few Arab uh families that was supporting the British in World War I against the Ottoman Empire. Uh at any rate, so they made a decision that that all of the eastern part of Palestine that is from the from the Jordan easternly would become a separate state for the Arabs, for the Palestinian Arabs, that was Palestinian Arab state. And they call that Trans Jordan. Trans meaning the other side of the Jordan River. Of course, uh the Arabs said nice but not enough because they said they basically that didn't connect see that as the Palestinians state for the Palestinian Arabs but rather they saw that as most of the state and the rest of it is still Palestine which is still ours. So that's when they won that they they said but this part the western part of the Jordan will be a Jewish state. They that's when the rebels get in that's when you had the terrible uh rioting and so on and so forth. But since this is not more or less modern history this I'm talking back in the Tanakh I just wanted to give you that area there. Okay. So at any rate um the question becomes as I said um was the eastern part of the uh Yardane which biblically was eventually set settled by the tribes after they defeated the and og. Now the this is this is the whole land north of Ammon and Moab and Midian. is north of that, as I said, the Amorite area. Was that indeed what God had planned as to be the an official part of Eats Israel, or was it something God gave to them afterwards? Uh, but that wasn't promised officially uh originally. Okay, which would of course help us understand why the Torah has different different borders. You know, if it was um promised, it would have been one border, but we have more than one border. I Why? Because well, it wasn't promised or not promised, but okay. >> Uh it's okay with me, but I want to know what the Torah meant. See, if the Torah look >> what I'm saying is not defined. If you're asking we said if God indeed considered that as promised land that would belong to Israel then you are correct in messianic era that would be taken over correct. If on the other hand that wasn't the original land promise but that rather God said well if you want to take over their land that's fine you can conquer other lands too but that's what I'm promising you then it won't necessarily be given to them after the messianic era. So that's why it's so important to find out if we can and I'm not saying we will be able to uh solve it. Um um because the two there are two definitions of what it is in the text. Which one is right? That's the whole point. Okay. Um so I'm going to start with the first text. Now what I want to do for you now and I'll give out these things is to show you a general idea of the map itself and you'll get a better idea of and and and ruin and so on and so forth. Okay. >> Is this from a book somebody gave you? >> No, I colored it myself. >> I gave you a book of maps for my husband. >> Okay. Seems and come on. I have another one here. There it is. Okay, good. Right. >> But you can color it if you want to. Okay. Um, yeah, this was taken from appendix D in the Anyway, page 2044. I don't know what the I forget what the U book was, but this is I see it. Map one, 2044. Um, at any rate, >> the year 2000 on the page. >> Very good. Given the fact that we haven't gotten to the year yet. Okay. >> Just seeing. So, but the first of the uh of the sources that you have without the pictures themselves, the picture themselves uh in the map the you'll see that the um the first source I give you um the the story of why is there an extra piece of land in that northern eastern area didn't have a story of the battle son and og we're not going to give that story but rather what happens afterwards and that is specifically the settlement of that land now understand that was a crucial part Israel had defined defeated the amalc right the amal they didn't take over their land they defeated the Egyptian army didn't take over any Egyptian land right they defeated the kani who came down we read that also and para as hukat they defeated that army they didn't take over their land but here they have been attacked by and then by and they did defeat them and now by they took over and settle that land so that's a really crucial thing it's the first time there's a settlement of the land we don't I wonder if we would know the date whether we would we would somehow uh make it into a kag a good a very good holiday because after all it's the first time Israel now has its own land and has settled a land that is theirs. Think about that. From the time of of Abraham, it was only God promising that you're going to have a land. It never was given. Here it was this moment where now Israel has a land that's theirs. They own it. It's theirs and eventually God gives them also. They settle in it. Wow. That was very very important even before they crossed the Jordan. Right? So that that's a very important thing. Notice what we said here. Of course, as you know, I'm not going to go through the Hebrew, but you see in the English, that's why I translate it in the number one olive where it says after the war, after they defeat Sikhon and Og. And how that was done, I'm not going to tell you because I I wasn't there. although I looked like I was. Anyway, the uh that that that war according to Kazal and other things seemed to have that Rashi brings it out that it seemed to have been a pretty quick uh war given that it was known to be a very powerful military both of them. And it seems that there was an alliance, not themselves, but they each one gathered all of the fighters outside of the to take them out of their cities and gather to make a big army. Once Israel defeated that army, the the cities were left unprotected and they just took them over. So that's why it was so fast. They say, "All right, whatever." Uh, what we read here is that the tribes of Ruven and God owned cattle in a very great numbers. And another little point to make. Interesting, is it not, that the people of Israel in in the desert complained that they had no meat to eat to eat. And here we're told they had cattle in very great numbers. pick up on that. >> Exactly the question. That's what they uh the kazal say. What do you mean? Why were they complaining that they had no meat when they had meat right there? Answer because they were Jews. They didn't want to have to kill their own people, their own cattle. Actually, well, you know, just give us my Hey, if you're Jews, you can get things for free. You're going to have to buy. What are you going to do? Come on. You know us. Um look I am being facitious. The complaint about not having water um sorry cattle started in the very first year few months after they left Egypt and although it does says uh that that they brought out a lot um it clearly over the years the 40 years it grew and grew and grew and grew. So now it's very much but they did have then also. Okay. All righty. So they had very great numbers noting that the lands of Yazir and Yaz Yazer and Gilad were suitable for cattle. The leaders of God and Ruv came to Moshe and said the land that God has conquered for Israel is cattle country and we have much cattle. It would be a favor to us if this land were given to us and not move us across the Jordan. Okay, that was their request. Now I'm going to turn to the Hebrew those who wanted and I will show you there's a little difference which to me years ago when I first learned this it hit me like something in the Hebrew the the translation which I have to say I did a good job on anyway somebody else did it but I fixed it up sometimes the English was harder than the Hebrew so I I tried to make it easier but if you look at the Hebrew and the request of them is right. And they said to them um you know it says we have a lot of cattle and then whereas in the in the uh translation I I sat down it would be a favor for us right there the the beginning of that fourth line in Hebrew there's one word that says after while they was telling you know we have a lot of cattle channel. Then it says, "And they said, what do you mean and they said?" They were in the middle of a whole conversation. Why does the Torah say, "And they said, if they were saying, I suggest that to me it felt like they were waiting for Moshe to say, "Hey, I have a great idea. Why don't you go to the land?" And Moshe doesn't say that. So they so they finally they were hinting to him and he didn't pick it up or he picked it up and didn't want to tell them. So vom they said okay he so please give us the land. He was they were waiting for Moshe to say okay why don't you take the land but he won't do that and you'll see why. So they finally ask open you know right on this is it so give us the lamb will you know that's what it is please give us the land they said since we have a lot of cattle that was the request fine it's okay with me um after all had just defeated the the nations of the moium right and um on eastern part and um being blessed with so much livestock. The two tribes two tribes no half yet um of of uh and God want to settle there because they had nice grass and that's great for their uh cattle right >> in at Twit. No, I believe they put everything in but they took Okay. But that it was a land of of a tremendous pasture. It was good for them. Okay. They also answered something else and you'll see all of a sudden the hackles come up here because in the Hebrew they say the last words. Okay. Um, in English you see it also the end of that fourth line and not move us across the Jordan in Hebrew. Alenuay Al do not do not force us to cross the arane. You see why Moshe wasn't too happy? As we'll see, do not me. It wasn't just like we would prefer this land. Do you think it's okay for us to take it? But they put the negative. We don't want to go over that side. We don't want to give the land that God had promised because this is a better land. Did you see the other land yet? Did you see what's on the other side? No. But this is really God. I'm telling you, I have a a cow. It's going to love it being here. That was what's important. I made I don't know how many sermons I've mot said about that in my sh what defines a good place to live where the cows are happy is it good for your business is that what's so important and that to me was was I think a very telling statement why God allows it. We have seen other times when God thinks it's a mistake and doesn't think you should do it. But if you want it, you know, God doesn't stop you for doing uh things that are bad. It's one of the major things that here in the 21st century, our young people and our old people just don't understand. Why didn't God stop this? Why God stop it? Whether it's the Holocaust or whether it's anything else, but why didn't God why did God let this happen? You know, the concept that God has a red cape and flies around and stops anything bad happening is so infantile. It's ridiculous. God has given man the right to make choices, free will. >> And believe it or not, this is important. Sometimes people make dumb choices and they do the wrong thing, not the right thing and then you cry, "God, why just stop it for me? I didn't build those concentration camps. I didn't do that." No. And that he says, "Where were you? Where were the good people to stop it?" That's the whole point. So he says, "You want to go there? Fine." The fact that they were the first ones to be exiled during the Assyrian thing, I'm sure was not a coincidence. But at any rate, that's what they want. But I find that little phrase almost like shaking in my boots when they don't let us go across the Isaiah. All right. What does God Moshe respond? How does he respond to this? Does he say for example don't you want to go into oh thou shalt enter and not go in or you must go there or please go in and then take a choice of what you want. Is that what he tells them? Listen to what he says and don't you start up with me. Moshe now responds. Then he said, he says in the fifth line, Moshe says to them, >> "We're still an A. Still an A on the fifth line. Should your brothers go to war while you stay back here?" I know. I told you. Don't start up with me. >> You're starting up. >> Sounds familiar. Mhm. Why would you discourage the Israelites from crossing into the land that God has given them? Well, you're going to stay here and they'll and they're going to think, why are they staying there? They're probably afraid. Afraid. Well, should we be afraid? It undermines the the the what's the word I'm looking for? Of of Israel. their their very very feelings there. They they will be struck with fear. And you can't go into war when you're overwhelmed with fear. You're going to be afraid. And if my if my brothers are afraid, shouldn't I be afraid? This is exactly what Moshe is saying. We hear the echoes. Um, and he go even he goes into I don't know if I Yeah. He goes into well, learn a lesson. Remember about 39 years ago, you had your people there who said they didn't want to go into the the land that God said go in, go invade it. And they said, "No, we'll never never uh conquer it." What do we call them? The Moragim. Yeah. The spies. That was the right. So, and what happened to them? So, is that what you're doing? And what happened to the people when they heard that they said, "Oh, we can't take over the land." What did the people do? They cried and they panicked and they wanted to go back to Egypt. Because that's what happens when people come and say, "We'll never do it. We'll never go in there." People don't want to start a war. Uh oh, we might die. You know, so God, you can't do that. And that's what you're doing. If you're saying nicely, you just want to take over that land. Don't you think that people will say, "Uhhuh, they're going to take over the land. They're going to stay there. They'll be bu building wonderful homes where we're going to be fighting. That's not right." And make them frightened. That was the objection. His objection, therefore, Moshe has is one a moral one. is a proper that only they will fight and you won't. Not right. Right. Um in effect, you'll be tearing away from the nation. You're turning your back on your brothers. I'm happy here. My cow is happy, but I want to heal. That's what's happening. And that's what's a moral sin. It's a sin of would say it's a sin of the way you're dealing with others. And that's wrong, right? um no making them in effect conquer the land without you right but there's a second objection besides that not fair what you're doing to your brothers there is also the objection that's a a faith-based one says the second part at le Israel. By doing that, you're making them frightened. Frightened about what? Not only taking over the land that they won't be able to because why wouldn't they be able to? Who's supposed to take over? Who is supposed to help them? Hashem. It is in effect an objecting that you are it's a lack of faith to lack of faith and you're causing them a lack of faith. It was not just it's not nice what you're doing to your brothers but also because you will cause a lack of amuna instead of saying as Yoshua and Khal said we'll be able to go under attack you're doing a doctor what the Mogim did and that causes panic and a lack of faith in God >> and that exactly right ex You're correct. You're correct. So, how is that going to be solved? How would that happen? They could say now, "All right, sorry." And go back. Or you could say staring at the cows, you know, maybe. What do they do? What they do is as what we might feel is so terrible the first time, the response is outstanding. So what do they do? Let's see. That's now bet in the second source. They say okay we hear you. We have a plan. What's the plan? They stepped up to Moshe and said tell you what we will build here as sheepfolds for the flocks and towns for our children. But we will, he says, as shock shock troops in the vanguard of the Israelites until we have established them in their home. You think it's not fair. We're going to build homes and everything here and they'll have to start riding. No, we will not build anything here more than a place for our families to stay and the ca and the cattles to stay. And we will not only fight with them, we will be in the vanguard. The most dangerous place to be in war until 19 probably until World War I was the first line. First line. They're the ones who get shot first. Yeah. I remember studying about the uh American Revolution where the the British were known a very good strong military, not as not as strong as their navy, but a strong military and they they they marched as British would. The concept of ducking was unheard of. So they stood up there or maybe down there and they just stand in the line. Crazy Americans were hiding behind trees in those and an attack from outside. Guerrerilla warfare warfare in effect and that's how they won the war. But the first lines of defense are the most dangerous ones to go as you see in the uh later on Yahosua to go into especially fortified walled cities and be the first ones to try and climb up there and some you look in those movies that they took in you know 1200s amazing how they do that and the 13 14 1500s when they see about in Europe when the uh when you the crusaders. But even after that, uh, the on horses, you know, uh, you know, the guys with the aluminum suits, you know, running around and everything, and they're the first ones that try and they try and go up the hills, you know, that's a very dangerous thing. And the fact that they said, "We will not build our homes here yet, not until our brothers can start building their homes there. and we will be first in the in that battle. That's a phenomenal thing. That's a tremendous uh thing and one that changed Mosha's mind. Um and um but what they do repeat is something else I'll get to in a moment. after telling an idea, he says at the end um the last two lines in the English on page one there, but we will not have a share with them in the territory beyond the Jordan, for we have received our share on the east side of Jordan. Once again, they say, "Don't want that side. We want this side over here." which after the remarkable response that negativity is still something that always bothered me and should I think bother everyone that uh instead of saying like we would prefer that no we're not we're not going to go with them we're having our own place here we've decided this is where we belong and if we go on to say that maybe that really wasn't what God officially said would be part of the promised land that was something that God eventually, as it says, Hashem does say that that allows them to go in. It still in effect is a defiance of God's promise. You know, we'll take this better than what God promised us. I hate to see it in those days, but I think we can look at it that way. And maybe that's one of the reasons that, like I said, I have this negativity about the whole system here. Yeah. >> There's another expression here. The first thing that they're going to are the sheep for our flocks. The children came next. >> Very good. >> First you take care of your family, then your possessions. But they thought of the possessions first. >> Wonderful. >> You have to feed your animals. You have to feed your animal to eat. >> But not your children. >> Not the children. >> I would imagine so. I mean, I you know, the dog might be hungry, but you have a a child, an infant who's crying for his mother's milk. I think you have that. Yeah. >> These are people leaving their families. You think that they would say, "I'm going to take make sure my family is safe. I'm going to be away for a while. Apples could feed on the grass. You don't need them. They don't need your help." >> It's a wonderful question. And I say that because Rashi and others take that question also. Um, and they have little problem with it. Very little. Why? Because when Moshe goes from God's direction what you should do, he repeats exactly what they said they'll do. The difference with his repetition. He said, "First take care of your children, then take care of your animals." >> Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. So, Moshe made the made the correction. Are the wives part of the children? >> Of course. It says there my wives and the wives and the children will stay back home. >> No, but does he says Rashi says feed your children. Does that include the wife? >> No. I said that you feed the children before the dogs. Um the wives are the wives are busy giving the food to the children. That's basically how it is. Remember the ancient world you gota Victoria to tear yourself out of the 20th 21st centuries where women were primarily the foodg givers and homemans and they and and they were >> not workers >> huh no generally not >> correct correct they were not >> they were not there was no expectation for them that was the expectation uh expectation of the men of the husbands to go out and make a living so that you can support your wives and they in turn will take that what you've given them to be able to feed you and your children. That was the way it meant like it or not. That was it. It only happened though for a couple of thousands of years. Now think about when do you think the m that we come to the point in the the society where approximately close to 20 I don't want to say 50% let's say 30% of the women worked up until when where do you think when that that percentage probably something in the 20th century the 20th century It wasn't >> and then >> when when we were when I was children how many of of you know of parent how many parents had only one home or one home you know and uh mommy was always home when you came home from school how am I going to eat otherwise you know she was always there that was it was a question and when I used to speak about that I was told and correctly I must say I I did make a mistake I the very rare times that that happens. I I said I made a mistake or or I usually said that uh I made a mistake. What was it? I thought I made a mistake. Anyway, that the that one of the people in my school said, "Rabbi nowadays, you can't support a family with one month once." And then I saw the um the amount of money to cost to take them to Yeshiva to day schools and they're right. Sure, I'd love not to have jobs. I can't. How are we going to put a You're telling us put the kid in today school, then they're telling us it's $20,000 a year, you know, and I have four kids. What am I supposed to do? You know, it's a reality and that's terrible. Maybe it just maybe helped a little bit after this wonderful, wonderful bill that was passed in the United States. uh you know for but nonetheless it's a real problem. So if the society had changed but understand that that's because the society changed in the ancient societies and even before that it wasn't say oh women are no good that was the men's problem because they felt they were much better because they were doing it but that's not the reason it was just functional that she who gave birth and who had to take about one the kids had to worry about not only nursing them but eventually till what age they have to be supported by them and have somebody home. You know, it was only natural that this is what would happen. And the fact that it happened in almost all societies means it's not just a matter of the law said this. That's how it was. That's how it was. So, yes, uh the wives stayed and the mothers stayed with the children. How long would that happen by the way? How long did it take them till they uh they ended with the the the wars and they took over the western side of the Jordan? How long how many years was that? Any anyone with an idea? >> Very good. Double that. >> 14 years. First seven were the battles, the wars. You're right. Then had to settle down and they said until they settled down and build their homes. That was another just as an aside. But this is very important to understand the entire takeover of Israel. It wasn't that after the war after Yoshua had all the wars. Yeah, we can do no because God said to them basically said it very clearly and in fact we have him to heal him too. Yoshua's job was to get rid of the major armies, the the alliances there, and to defeat them, leaving the local areas with the, you know, what we would call them in America, what what we call the uh the states armies. We call that the um whatever >> civil Yeah, the civil war, right? Uh they were the ones there. And the job of each and every tribe is now go into your area and defeat and chase away the locals so that you can get from there. I think 10 out of 12 tribes didn't do that. Hello. Welcome to the rest of Tanakh. Why do I say that? Had they done what they were supposed to do right after Yahosua did their end. They'll build mikdash. everybody would be happy and we'd have kosher pizza stores. That's not what happened. The entire book of Yahosua, of Yeshu and Yo, and all of that is all about the sins of Israel and the punishments they got and how they can be said and maybe the future they'll be okay. Why? because they didn't do what they had to do had they not had the idolatrous uh influences that were throughout the area because they never chased out the idoltors. They um wouldn't have had all of these sorus. It's a very important thing. That's why some people believe that's only the five books of Moses and one book of Yeshua. Muslims. >> The Muslims believe in that. They believe that there are, you know, six, I suppose, divine books. They include Yeshua, the Samaritans also. I don't think that's the reason. But there is a clear break between time and the era of where Israel was doing what had to happen. They sinned here, they sinned there, but basically was great done. Uh, as I've mentioned before, look throughout the book of Joshua. Never do the Israelites complain to Joshua. Say they want to go back to Israel. It's the same people, mind you, in that who's in the 40th year of Moshe when they complain, but not with the Joshua. No complaints. Nothing at Huh. It was a good It was a good good generation. And it was only afterwards that thing fell apart. Yes. So the two tribes went and joined the others and they were gone for 14 years. In those 14 years, the Israelis, the Benel didn't conquer the land. >> The first seven years, they they put down all of the military threats. But the next four seven years when they were supposed to chase out the local threats, only two did it. And that's why you can see what happens afterwards. The Philistines came up and attacked. They were in invaded by the Ammonites or invaded by the Moabites or invaded by the mosquito bites. Everybody came in because they never got rid of everything. And God says, "Oh yeah, you like this. See what happens." >> Exactly correct. That's exactly right. They never finished the part. That was their job, not Yeshua's God job. And don't don't think it's a mistake. Oh, sure. He didn't do what he's supposed to. No, he did what he was supposed to. And he told them, "Okay, I did my job. Now you guys go." And the first thing we read in Shaft Tim was that but they didn't do it. First paper of shaft goes through the tribes who did it. Those who did do it. I'm sorry. What? >> It's an interesting psych psychological analysis of why they sabotaged themselves. I think it's a discussion for psychologist. >> No, not psychology. I I think that's look human nature is such that you do what's the easiest thing to do. The Jews are the Israelites settled in. They got themselves on land. They got for the first time they were, you know, they were walking around with the with the desert for how long. So they got themselves on land. They can finally get the sand out from between their toes. They now a place to live. They could and now uh plant their their vineyards, plant their gardens, their groves, everything. Have the kids there to go into Ghana and go into, you know, jewels and that. They're very happy >> and they're going and they're very nice neighbors. They're not Jewish, but they're good people. They're nice. No problem with them. Good. They don't bother us. We don't bother them. go and tell them you have to chase them out. >> So, it's the easiest thing to do. So, they let it happen. It's a very very common natural uh human nature. Which is why God said, "Don't fall into human nature. Fall into divine nature. If I tell you do this, do this even when it's going to be hard for you. And if you do, I'll help you out. But when you don't, don't look for me to help." That's basically what happened at that