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The Link Between Shavout and Matan Torah | Rabbi Shai Finkelstein | May 5 2026
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I surely lose my breath held up at Sarah
and um
So we will start today with a I have a
seven Shabbat in Matan Torah.
There a connection the link between
Shabbat and Matan Torah and I will try
to explain why and like what do you mean
by what's the link? Shabbat is
Matan Torah, no?
No, maybe. Yes. Okay, so let's see.
So it says in Vayikra
Ukratiem beatzem hayom hazeh mikra
kodesh yihyeh lakhem.
Kol melakha avoda lo ta'asu. Chukkat
olam bekhol moshvotiekhem
ledoroteikhem. Okay, so just last week
in parashat Emor
we read about all the khagim.
Pesach, Shavuot, Sukkot, Rosh Hashanah
and Yom Kippur.
And it says that you need to announce
beatzem hayom hazeh on that specific day
that it should be a mikra kodesh.
Mikra kodesh it's a basically most of
the times mikra kodesh means what?
A day that you are not allowed to do
melakha. That's basically what it is.
Kol melakha avoda lo ta'asu. Chukkat
olam bekhol moshvotiekhem ledoroteikhem.
Okay, so if I will ask you, okay, so
what do we do on Shavuot? What's the
mitzvah of the day? Cheesecake.
Cheesecake?
Based on the pasuk.
Nothing?
Nothing.
There is a korban like any other khag or
shabbat or whatever. There is a korban
musaf.
And you bring
um
a shtei lekhem. Specific korban but if
you are not interested in bringing a
korban
or if you are not interested in coming
to Yerushalayim because there's really
nothing too too exciting going on. You
know, there's no water libation, wine
libation, a kohen gadol gets into the
kodesh hakodashim, korban Pesach.
There's nothing.
There's no tikkun leil Shavuot.
So I would assume
that Shavuot was not that popular,
right? But leave alone the the
popularity of the khag, the problem is
that we don't know what we do.
There's there's nothing. It's a khag
without anything in specific which by
the way makes it very unique. Rosh
Hashanah has tekia shofar.
Yom Kippur has tsom ve'avoda.
Sukkot obviously arba'at minim, the
arava, the water libation, everything.
Pesach korban Pesach. Shavuot
Shmini Atzeret, yes.
Do what?
Shmini Atzeret is a
it's like a separate khag.
It's not like a continuation. Yeah,
there is a korban and it's like a
continuation of Sukkot. So you are still
there. Pesach korban Pesach Shavuot
gornisht, klum, nothing.
So Abravanel, Rabbi Yitzchak Don
Abravanel, 15th century Spain says
ashilah yud zayin. He asked many
questions. One of them is question
number 17 says lama lo nitna Torah ta'am
lekhag hashvuot
shehu zman matan torateinu
kemo she natan bekhag hapesaḥ uvkhag
hasukkot uv'yom hakipurim hata'amim
shebe'avuram nitztavu Yisrael aleihem.
So he's asking basically two questions.
A, why the Torah does not define khag
Shavuot as what? As khag matan Torah.
That should be the khag of matan Torah
and also there's like no reason for the
khag.
Which is interesting.
Pesach is zekher litzi'at Mitzrayim.
Sukkot also zekher litzi'at Mitzrayim
ananei hakavod
or Sukkot Sukkot mamash, right?
Uh Rosh Hashanah
Yeah, tekia shofar but that's we will
call it zekher lema'aseh bereishit and
you know my Yom Kippur we understand
it's a Yom Kippur. Khag Shavuot has no
reason
for the khag.
And definitely there is no specific
date.
How do we know what khag Shavuot is?
Seven weeks, khamisha yom akharei.
So
I
So but obviously we have an issue here.
This is a an anomaly. All the other
khagim has reasons and this one has
no reason.
So let's start with Abravanel.
So the Abravanel not only asked the
question, he also try to attempt to give
an answer and he says the following.
Hinei lo natna Torah ta'am lekhag hazeh
sheyihyeh zekher leyom matan torah.
Lefi shelo hukba hakhag lezikhron matan
torateinu.
He says I'll tell you. You know why the
Torah does not give a reason that
Shavuot is khag matan Torah because it's
what?
It's not.
Oh.
Az ma anakhnu osim bekhag hashvuot?
Right? So what do we do on khag Shavuot?
So ki hatorah elokit asher hayta
beyadeinu
vehanvu'ah
asher hi beyadeinu
edut al atzma ve'ein tzorekh lekadesh
yom lizkor otah.
It says the Torah does not need a
specific day to remember it.
The Torah itself is a testimony for our
special relationship with Hashem. Every
day the Yom Matan Torah.
Kol yom yihyu be'einekha
kakh hadashim. Every day you look at
Torah it's like new. It's like the day
that you received the Torah. So
therefore we don't need a day to remind
you. Pesach is a reminder for what? For
yetzi'at Mitzrayim. Sukkot is the same
because from time to time I need to
remind you where did you come from. But
khag Shavuot it's a khag matan Torah.
It's the day that we received the Torah
and therefore
we don't need a reminder.
We know for sure that you're going to
remember it every day. So therefore khag
Shavuot is not zekher lematan Torah.
Okay, it does not say that matan Torah
didn't happen on Shavuot yet but it's
not a reminder. Yes.
You translated as matan Torah as
received. We get we're given it but we
didn't necessarily receive it.
The people didn't necessarily receive
it.
Semantics for now.
For now it's semantics. Yes.
Yes, yes bikurim.
So that's the mitzvah of the day you're
saying? Yeah, but that's only if you
have a farm, only if you have a field.
If I don't if I deal with real estate
and I don't have a farm I don't bring.
But it's three three
three times you're supposed to come to
Beit Hamikdash. Mhm.
And this is this one of them. Yeah,
supposed.
No, I'm I'm not trying to be supposed to
come. It is really a major question.
Did they really do it or not?
We know that
even when probably when they reached the
highest level of of aliyah laregel we're
not talking more about more than 30,
40,000 people.
And if you can assume how many people
were in Israel
it's I'm not sure it was even 10%.
Okay, but because of different many many
many reasons, okay? Okay.
So
um aval haya ta'am khag hashvuot
lehiyoto atkhalat ktzir khitim.
Really khag hashvuot is because it's the
beginning of the
harvest.
Ki khemo shehaya khag hasukkot
letakhleet asifat hatvu'ot
the same way that Sukkot
is also signifies what? Asifat hatvu'ot.
Basically bringing the harvest in. Kakh
haya khag hashvuot betkhilat asifatam.
So the same way khag hashvuot was at the
beginning of the harvest. Ki ratza
Hashem Yitbarakh shebe'atkhalat asifat
hatvu'ot shehem mazon adam sheharishona
mehen hi hakhita
shebekhag hashvuot hayu matkhilim
liktzor
ya'asu khag lehodot lenoten lekhem
lekhol basar vetakhleet hatvu'ot ya'asu
khag akher.
So then he says, he says really the main
reason for Shavuot is that it's khag
ha'asif which is the beginning of what?
Of harvesting. Because that's the
beginning of harvesting Hashem wanted
you to what? To come to Beit Hamikdash
and to bring a korban which will be
almost like a korban todah. So you will
remember what?
To be thankful to Hashem who gave you
the ability to start the harvesting.
Very similar to Sukkot
when you bring in all the harvest that
you harvested and you can be haughty,
you can be pompous because oh look how
wealthy I am. Hashem says to you what?
Leave the house and go to Sukkot to
something temporarily to to show you
that you are not here forever. Same
thing on Shavuot when you begin the
harvesting Hashem already wants to
remind you what?
It's not because of
your efforts and it's not because of
you, it's because of me. Okay.
Akhshav
And therefore by the way, the first
thing that you all harvest is the khita,
the wheat and that's also why the korban
comes with khitim and therefore it comes
to remind you it's me. Okay.
Ve'ein safek
Now he says there is no doubt.
Shebe'yom khag hashvuot nitna Torah. He
says I have no doubt that what? That
really khag Shavuot was khag matan
Torah. Mhm. By the way, when he says
there is no doubt
it means that someone else doubted it,
right? By the way, just as a just as a
question, when exactly matan Torah was?
Yeshurun.
The next day, vav.
Anyone would like to
throw another another date?
Seventh, right? All opinions are
correct.
The Torah the Talmud says in Shabbat
atoran nitna be'eitiv bevav sivan
uvzayin sivan.
>> It depends how you calculate. Okay. So,
hey Sivan, vav Sivan
The only thing that they all agree upon
is
that it's Sivan.
And the second thing that they agree
upon is it was given on Shabbat.
Okay, interesting.
So, he says I I have no doubt that Hag
Hashavuot that was the day that we
received the Torah or the Torah was
given
But the
Hag was not for the purpose to remember
or to celebrate Matan Torah.
Now, you can understand that obviously
there is a problem here.
If I don't harvest and if I don't live
on in in Eretz Israel, so what is the
meaning of Hag Hashavuot?
It should be Matan Torah, right? Only
Matan Torah. So, we would expect
probably
that somehow somewhere
around the destruction of the Bet
Hamikdash Hashani
Hag Hashavuot will get some kind of
what?
Of a different direction.
Right? Or if not after that, at least
during the
11th, 12th, 13th century will start
having more focus on what? On
Torah. In Babel, was it It what? In
Babel, did they talk about Uh we'll see.
Yeah.
Um
So, he on Rosh Hashanah we also have
something similar.
It's really what? We say
we don't
When we
celebrate Rosh Hashanah, we don't
celebrate it for what? For being the
first day of creation or the sixth day
of creation we don't know, but rather we
we
we celebrate Rosh Hashanah for what? For
Yom Hadin.
We don't call it what? Yom
Bri'at Ha'Olam
but we call it
Yom Hadin. Okay.
Really Shavuot is the day we received
the Torah
but the Hag was not uh
uh it's it's it's purpose, it's aim is
not to remember that came to fulfill the
Hag Hashavuot.
And also in Parshat Mishpatim
Hag Hakatzir the day the Hag of the of a
harvesting
the first thing that comes out of your
field uh the Hag Ha'asif Hashana and the
day Hag that you collect all the harvest
which is Sukkot
Hag
Hag Ha'asif Tekufat Hashana Hag
Hag
Hag Hashavuot So, all
those quotes basically try to what? To
prove the the fact that
that Shavuot is all about
the agriculture component of the Hag.
Nothing to do with the Torah even though
Torah was given on that Hag on that day
our celebration is not because of that.
In Halway Shavuot
So, you see that this Hag is basically
named after the weeks, the Shavuot
and you need to bring
on that day not for Matan Torah
Hag Hag
Hag
So, basically the Barbanel says what?
Really the connection between Shavuot
and Matan Torah is what?
Is only
the date.
The date.
Shavuot is the day that we received the
Torah, but you will not find on Hag
Hashavuot any component that basically
celebrates what?
The idea of Matan Torah.
Okay.
It
Okay, so don't forget that was after the
destruction of Bet Hamikdash. So, what
are they going to say? Zman Matan
Korbanotenu? Zman Bikurim? Well, people
will have no clue what they are talking
about.
It
was always there. That's what the
Barbanel said two things.
Hag Hashavuot was always Hag Matan
Torah. That was the day we received the
Torah. Hey, vav or zayin, lo meshaneh.
However, we do not celebrate it. This is
not the main focus of Shavuot and why?
Because the Torah does not need a day.
Because it's everyday.
That's basically the claim
that the Barbanel would like to convey
to us. Okay?
The what?
We did not get what?
What?
No.
Uh what do you mean?
He broke the Yeah, he he received it, we
didn't. Yeah, okay. The second was Yom
Kippur.
Okay.
Rabbi Shimshon Raphael Hirsch
Hag
Yeah, thank you. Shavuot is a bit
different than all the other Hagim.
Shavuot is not named after any
of the Mitzvot that applies that apply
on it, which is for example it's not
called Hag
Hag
It's called Hag Hashavuot, which is
basically a name that was given to him
because of what? Of the counting of the
Shavuot.
It's called Shavuot named on what? For
the Sefirah the the counting that was
prepared for it.
The Hag
Matan Torah
was not at all on that day Sinai
Torah was given and received
in a process of 40 years.
The 10 Commandments that were heard from
Sinai are not more holy than any other
Mitzvah of the 613
Mitzvot
that was given to us
by the hand of Moshe. [clears throat]
Rabbi Shimshon Raphael Hirsch is saying
here something that I'm going to open up
for a bit of a discussion. He says
the Torah was not given
on Shavuot.
But rather it was given to us
in a process of 40 years.
[clears throat]
Really, you should say that the Torah
was given to us when?
Date, give me a date.
Zayin Adar, February.
The Torah says that on his last day he
wrote the Torah and he gave it to each
tribe.
Which means the Torah was given to us
when?
Zayin Adar. So, it's not only a Hag for
the Hevra Kadisha.
Right? It's also for us. That's what we
should celebrate its completeness. Not
sure about what?
The last eight Pesukim.
We discussed that
at length
few years ago. Because the last eight
Pesukim obviously describes Moshe's
death. So, I don't know if he did it.
I mean the Gemara has already already
asked the question. Okay.
So, now
So, Rabbi Shimshon Raphael Hirsch does
not deny the fact that the 10
Commandments were probably given on
Shavuot, but it says the 10 Commandments
are not more or less important than
any other Pasuk in the Torah. By the
way, as a result of it, the Rambam
was very much against
standing while we read the Aseret
Hadibrot. Why? Because if you stand for
all everything that we read, every
Parsha, so what's the difference? But if
we sit and then we stand for Aseret
Hadibrot
so it makes it more special. Right?
So, how do we do that?
So, we are making it even though that
itself so it makes this Aliyah very
important because the rest of it you
sit. So, that's why we here for example
in Italy we start standing from the
beginning of the Aliyah.
But but what? Do you stand Or you stand
all the time, right? If you want. So,
the thing is is that we have this this
problem and I will tell you all also
that the 10 Commandments in a way
Hakhamim tried to
I would say reduce a bit its importance
and why? Because sometimes they they
thought that the Aseret Hadibrot is so
important that they maybe thought about
even putting it
in the Tefillin
every day, but Hakhamim says no, people
would think that this is only the Aseret
Hadibrot. What? we don't we don't do
it. So, that's that's the first thing.
However,
there is something in the 10
Commandments
that definitely is different than any
other mitzvah, which is
the first two commandments, according to
all opinions,
they heard it directly from Hashem.
So,
what he says here that the 10
Commandments, I agree. The 10
Commandments is a whole are not more or
less important than all the other
mitzvot. However,
the first two
Now, you can argue that the first
commandment is maybe not exactly a
commandment. It's more of a
concept, okay? Or a declaration, or an
opening statement.
But the second one
So, this is a very interesting comment
that he says,
but
So,
okay?
But he wants to claim that the Torah, as
it was given to us, was given to us
really only after 40 years. Now, I need
to open up here a little bit of a
sugrah.
Um okay.
I hope you're not going to jump from
your chair, so just sit, relax, and
enjoy.
Okay.
So, what did we receive on Har Sinai?
What did Moshe receive on Har Sinai
first time around?
Luchot. That's it?
The what?
Yeah, but I'm talking about mitzvot.
Like, besides the 10 Commandments,
anything else?
So, they claim that um
he received everything. Mhm.
>> Everything. That's why Shemita is
written next to the Torah that he
So, what do you what do you mean by
everything? The Torah Shebe'al Peh Oh,
even the Torah Shebe'al Peh? This one.
Mhm.
No, you don't don't be afraid. Say it.
Right?
Hazal basically say that on Har Sinai we
received he received the entire Torah,
including Torah Shebe'al Peh, including
Mash Talmid Vatik Atid L'Chadesh. Even
whatever a student would make a
chiddush, he would know that, right?
First, it's very depressing.
Oh, okay. So, that's Gemara. That's
another Gemara in Menachot. Okay, so he
didn't understand Rabbi Akiva. But
whatever whatever that means. Okay. But
before that,
why is it depressing? Because when I say
chiddush, I want to say that it's what?
That it's a chiddush, which means no one
else said it before me, right? And now
I'm being told that what?
Moshe Rabbeinu already knows it. So, you
don't say you don't say anything new.
Okay, so that's a bit depressing to me.
Not so bad. I mean, it's not as
depressing as something else. But it it
is a bit depressing.
Okay.
Oh, I so I'm not sure what does it mean
Kol HaTorah Kulah. Does that that means
the Torah Shebichtav, Torah Shebe'al
Peh, the Torah Shebe'al Peh that until I
was born or or even more, I don't know.
Yeah, you're a good Jew. You didn't
answer my question, but you said
something else. Very good. You basically
says that on Har Sinai we got the
authority, the authenticity of Torah,
right? But in terms of mitzvot, you
didn't answer my question. Like, what
did he
receive?
Answer is, we know for sure the 10
Commandments, right? Okay. With the 10
Commandments, we also know that there
are other mitzvot that he probably
received. And by the way, the fact that
he received it does not mean necessarily
that he needs to convey it immediately.
It might be that what? That some of it
comes with time, right? B'not
Tzelafchad. So, you know what? Here,
B'not Tzelafchad. I I you know what? Not
that. Mekalel. We did it last week, so
you that's something that you forgot
already, okay? So, we have the Mekalel.
You remember what's happened with the
Mekalel, with the blasphemer? Last
week's parsha. At the end of the parsha,
this guy comes along, he goes into the
in the into the camp. I gave a drasha on
that for people who were here. And he
goes out and he he had a fight with
another Israeli
man, and he
blasphemed he became a blasphemer, okay?
And they brought him to Moshe Rabbeinu,
and he put him what? In Mishmar.
Like, they guarded him until Hashem
would tell him what to do. So, that was
not told to him on Har Sinai.
B'not Tzelafchad.
Same thing. Pesach Sheni.
Okay. So, three things that were not
given to him on Sinai.
Oh, Zimri No, there he knew he couldn't.
Because okay, it's Hazal. I need Hazal.
Um because really most Hazal says that
really Pinchas came to ask if if Pinchas
Okay. Moshe Rabbeinu couldn't do that
because his wife was a Midianite.
And Zimri came to Moshe, and he says to
him, "Ben Amram, which is obviously an
not a respectful way to talk to Moshe
Rabbeinu.
Ben Amram, Zot Muteres O Asurah?
My my girl, is she okay with me or not?
If you tell me yes, okay. If you tell me
no, who gave you permission to marry
Tzipporah?"
Yeah, that's a
that's
If you think chutzpah is only the 21st
century phenomena, no. Baruch Hashem, it
it happened many many years before.
So, that's what happened with Moshe
Rabbeinu. So,
go.
Okay, so you basically say what did he
do for 40 days and 40 nights, right? So,
he probably learned. Right? He studied
all the Torah.
So, what was wrong with
the Mekalel, Pesach Sheni, and B'not
Tzelafchad?
He was in recess, like what?
So, obviously we have we have an issue
here. Okay, that's number one. That's
number one. Second question that we
obviously have. So,
if he learned the entire Torah, all
Hamisha Chumashim, so you already know
everything about the Meraglim and Korach
and Milchemet Og
and all the rest of it. Like, so all the
Mitonenim, all the complaints,
everything. So, he knows everything. So,
what's the surprise for him?
If he knows that Korach is going to
argue with him,
what?
Oh, okay. Maybe all the mitzvot, right?
Now, what about mitzvot that they came
as a result
of of the complaints?
He also learned them?
Okay. Because we don't know.
And because we don't know, obviously you
understand why Hazal comes along and
what?
And try to fill and to fill in those
gaps.
Okay? So, also we can understand and we
should understand that part of it is
because of
historical circumstances that Hazal
had to say probably more
than before. What what do I mean by
that? Especially when you have people
who challenge Torah Shebe'al Peh
and say that the rabbis have no
authority
to make Torah Shebe'al Peh, oral Torah.
Who do I Who am I talking about?
Tzedukim, Isiyim, Kutim. Okay, later on,
early Christians and all of that.
Everyone who challenged Torah Shebe'al
Peh. So, Hazal had to say what?
No, it was also given at Sinai. If you
believe in Hamisha Chumashim, you also
need to believe in what?
In Torah Shebe'al Peh. Very similar to
whom? To you remember Rabbi Akiva? The
Gemara in Shabbat Daf Lamed. Yeah, Im
Ata Ma'amin Li Ba'Alef Bet, Ta'amin Li
Gam BaTorah Shebe'al Peh. You need to
believe in it. So, I need to create some
kind of an authority and authenticity.
So, if I tell you the Torah Shebe'al Peh
was given at Sinai, so if I believe in
Hamisha Chumashim, I believe also in
Torah Shebe'al Peh. Now,
the thing is,
when you talk about Torah Shebe'al Peh,
so what do you mean by Torah Shebe'al
Peh? Everything?
Only the Kelalim, the principles?
What does it mean Torah Shebe'al Peh?
That's B. C.
We know, at least Hazal. Hazal
themselves, they say that after Moshe
Rabbeinu passed away, 3,000 Halachot
were
forgotten, and then Atniel ben Kenaz was
able to bring them back.
What does that mean?
It means what? That whatever God gave to
Moshe
Mhm.
were able to be duplicated
by human brain.
You hear what Hazal are trying to tell
you?
This is This is the the magnitude of
what Hazal are trying to say. That
whatever was given at Sinai, we now can
do it, quote unquote, by ourselves.
So, can we make mistakes?
We definitely can. But what do we do
when we make a mistake? There is a
problem. If you admit that you made a
mistake,
what can what it can lead?
If you made one mistake, maybe
everything else that you made was what?
Was also a mistake.
There is a discussion in the Gemarot,
what what is the law when what is the
Halacha when a Beit Din made a mistake.
The what?
Oh, you don't even go there. Just But
the name of the name of Okay. The badin
made a mistake.
So, what do you do?
Do you re-judge it or not?
So, it depends. It's
if it's something that it's
written in the
and you made a mistake. So, if you're
going to admit it, what do you think
people would think about you?
What kind of a day on is it? So, maybe
you should what?
You should say quiet, quiet, quiet. It's
all good.
Or you can say no, the opposite. If the
badin admit that they made a mistake,
that give them what?
More validity. Look. They could hide it
and they decided to what? To be
transparent. That's today the the word,
right? To be transparent and to tell
everyone we made a mistake. So, this is
an interesting discussion in terms of
authority.
But then later on you have another
issue. And the issue is, let's say we
agree and we believe obviously that the
sages has the authority to create
different things, right? So, can they
create new holidays?
Hanukkah and Purim. And immediately the
in Shabbat in
asked what?
How can they do that? And how can we say
the blessing of that we have been
commanded
and commanded commanded where in the
Torah we have Hanukkah and Purim? So,
the needs to go and say all there are
two verses. One one of my favorite as a
rabbi You heard it?
Do not deviate
from what I say or tell you.
Which by the way creates another You're
okay with me?
Creates another discussion between the
army and the army.
The army says
even if he tells you the right is left
and left is right, you should believe
him.
Even if he tells you the the right is
left and left is right, you should
believe him.
Wait, wait, wait. Which means what?
Even if you No, no, no. If I tell you
your right left your right hand is your
left hand and your left hand is your
right hand.
I Very good. And what do I need to do
according to the army?
Still believe you. Still submit my
cognitive abilities because the rabbi
said so. The
says to him you mean you mean
and small
small. Which means if it makes
sense. That's obviously a problem
because what makes sense to you
does not necessarily make sense to me.
Who was the author of make sense
philosophy?
Korah.
Rabbi Soloveitchik has an incredible
essay on Korah.
And he says, you know, the Midrash talks
about two main questions that Korah
asked our teacher.
One, if you have a room full of books
do I need a mezuzah? And Rashi says
Rashi. And Moshe says Yes. And then he
says to him, if I have a blue do I need
a still a blue string? And Moshe says
yes. And Korah says
no make sense.
Everything is alive. What would I You
have all those books and you have a
Torah you tell me that what? That you
need a mezuzah?
Makes no sense.
That's the problem when you talk about
makes if it makes sense or not, if it's
logical or not. Why? Because many things
are not exactly logical. A, B
where is the limit of the sages?
Okay, Hanukkah and Purim
as we say sababa.
What about all the
the
sages
all the boundaries the the the limits
that the sages created? When do you say
you don't have the authority? Not only
enough because we can't get it, but like
who gave you the authority? Meaning how
much can you expand the authority?
Yes, I think someone there Yes.
Oh, that's a good question. Also a
question. The sages also have something
to say about it. The question was but
the Torah says you should not add and
you should not detract from the from the
So, first and foremost the sages who are
obviously also in charge of the Torah,
they say that the interpretation for
not to add or not to detract is in the
itself. Which means instead of four in
the
I add
a fifth
Okay, that's in the itself to add.
That's a problem. Okay? Alternatively
Okay, you know what? You took me there.
Okay.
We are opening up another
You're with me?
Okay, very fun day today. So
let's go. That's a between the Rambam
and the Ravad.
Okay, let me ask you a question.
From um you should not cook a kid in its
mother's milk. That you should not cook
a kid in its mother's milk. It's
mentioned how many times in the Torah?
Three. Very good. What do we learn from
the three times?
Eating.
No, eating and and and
cooking. Very good. Good.
What
cooking,
enjoying it, benefiting benefiting from
it and and um
and eating it.
Can you eat Well, now I'm going to be
the most popular rabbi. Can you eat
chicken and cheese?
Rabbi Yossi ate it.
But can you do it? Can you do a chicken
cheeseburger? Chicken cheeseburger?
Something like that.
What?
We
we basically declared no. Very good.
Why?
Why do you think the rabbi
Uh
not because of that.
Oh, so Susie said maybe it will lead to
other things like a slippery slope. That
was not the reason there. The reason
there was people are confused. Meat
chicken, same thing. So, therefore if
you will not prohibit the chicken,
people would also eat at the end of the
day meat with cheese. Yes.
Oh, there's a between and
Okay. Now, but but let's just go back
for for that one. Okay, so the rabbis
basically declared that cheese and
chicken are not allowed together, right?
Very good. Good.
Can I as a rabbi said when you come to
me and you ask rabbi, can I eat chicken
and cheese? And I'll tell you no.
And if I ask you now, is that from the
Torah?
Can I say yes?
Okay. Take a look. There is something
very interesting.
The Rambam say that if I say it's from
the Torah
I will violate the Torah.
I will violate the Torah that you
shouldn't add to a Torah.
Why? Everything begins with
Adam and Eve.
If you want to see it, it's an
incredible shot of the Torah.
He says like that. It's Rambam and
Ravad.
Adam and Eve
heard from God what?
You should not eat from the tree of
knowledge of good and evil. Shouldn't
eat, right? Then Adam goes ahead and
talks to his wife and he says to her
what? God said
not to touch.
Don't eat, don't touch. Which means Eve
thought that God says
don't touch, don't eat.
When she met the snake the snake says to
her
what's going on? Why don't you eat from
that?
Immediately the first thing that Eve
says was what?
God said
don't touch.
According to the Midrash the snake
pushed Eve
she touched the tree and
nothing happened.
The snake says to her, the same way that
nothing happened while touching it,
nothing will happen to you if you will
eat it.
The mistake of Adam according to
[clears throat] this Midrash is that he
he violated what?
The Torah.
He should have said what? God said
don't eat. I
will add. You know what? Maybe it's
better for us what?
Don't touch it.
So, we will not be tempted to what? To
eat from it.
Says the Rambam based on this he says,
if a rabbi says
that this is from the Torah knowing that
it's not
but it's only a rabbinic decree
he's violating the Torah.
I will tell you and I'll say it and
going to Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai
Meron Lag BaOmer of 2026 when there is a
threat from Lebanon
from the Hezbollah
First Lag BaOmer is not mentioned in the
Torah.
You're with me?
Lag BaOmer is not mentioned in the
Torah.
Lag BaOmer is not mentioned as a play as
a as a holiday that you need to go and
celebrate on on his grave even in the
town.
But there is
you should watch yourselves.
There is a commandment to what?
To watch yourself and to make sure that
you are safe and not to endanger
yourself and definitely not endanger
others. Okay? But when things become
almost like a Torah status and people
think that this is like a commandment
from the Torah, that become
but it's not even secondary, become now
Nonsense. No, no, it becomes exactly the
most important thing. What people think,
what what we know it's maybe even
secondary or even third on the list now
becomes what? The top of the the top of
the list. That's sometimes a problem
when people don't know what is rabbinic
and what is the writer. Now, I
understand many people are here and I
you know
And what about all the again that they
made? You don't have to follow them
otherwise they criticize And that's fine
to to to listen to this idea but the
question is is the again
the limits where do they come from?
And where are the limits? The Torah
itself already talks about
again again
no of the none
which means what? You make one decree,
you don't make a decree and based on
that decree you make another decree.
Okay? There is one decree with you. Now,
what is included in one decree that's a
different question but you can't make
again again.
So
therefore
let's go back to what Moses received on
Mount Sinai.
So basically we understand that when you
go through the time
you can basically get different answers
to what exactly he received on Mount
Sinai.
Okay, I'll give you one more example of
wow.
Yeah, I hope we'll finish it by
um
So you will know what to celebrate,
right?
So I'll give you one more example.
The in another place it says
I I vote key move at all Torah
at all of them
that I am Jacob kept the entire Torah
and fulfilled it even before it was
given. So basically Abraham had Seder
right? And he asked the Torah
and he did the Torah
and
and he did the Torah
He was not holding it was not meat. It
was this bio made meat whatever it was
the the
thing.
So and the new milk that it's not the
it's a power.
So the thing is is what?
Is that
they are saying something that obviously
it's very hard to understand on the on a
simple understand oh kept the entire
Torah. What are they talking about,
right?
His descendants are not yet in so you're
telling me that what? He celebrated what
he blew the what he did he did the Torah
he did the Torah. Do you know why?
The idea is
that especially when you look at the at
the names of the of the
by the way I am a member
you understand that we have a we had a
problem.
We have a vote
right? And I am a vote
and none of them
is what we will call today
a religious person.
Also
none of them is what?
Is Jewish by birth.
You look at me like I said so
I mean that's
that's what the Torah says.
Abraham came from
the ark
and Isaac really came from where the ark
but
but from
the ark did the ark go through a
conversion or was it made in somewhere?
What shame and ever and then they did a
conversion?
Abraham went through a conversion
Abraham received the Torah believed in
God and that's it there's no Torah
again.
So we have a problem and the problem
became even larger
when
Christianity came along.
Christianity loved Abraham. You know
why?
Because
hospitality
believe in God and they all the only
problem that they had with Abraham was
the Torah.
So what did they say?
Jesus did it once and he took it for all
of us.
That's it. That's how they got rid of
the Torah and then they were able to
what? To welcome everyone else.
Isaac they loved.
But he did one thing that really speaks
to them.
He died and he came back.
On the Torah
when he was put on the altar his soul
was taken away and then he came back.
Who is their problem? Jacob.
Jacob he is a problem for them. He's
called Israel. He has the tribes.
He went to he comes back. Okay? So Jacob
always was a problem for them and also
he fought with and is according to the
is Rome, Italy and Christianity.
Therefore the Torah said
when they
saw where the wind blow in in terms of
the vote
what did they do?
They insert
an understanding that they kept the
entire Torah before it was given. So now
they also understand that it makes no
sense. What do you mean that Abraham had
a Seder in
in
Sukkot? Answer is they understood the
significant the the the spiritual
significant from every Torah
and
the Torah says that Abraham's inner is
teaching him what God wants. Meaning in
every Torah there is a revelation of
what wants from you. It's not only just
to shake the Torah. It needs to affect
you in some spiritual way. So they
understood it and based on that that's
what it means that they kept the entire
Torah.
So why am I telling you all of that? It
all yes.
So back in the days they don't know
it's a
Not making it up. They are they always
try to find some kind of a proof in the
Torah some of it it's very clear some of
it a bit complicated. I'll be very
honest. Complicated for us.
Complicated same thing as impossible to
understand is that complicated? Um no,
it means that I cannot understand
everything but Okay.
Smarter than smarter people than I.
Ah
Thank you but they are. So the thing is
is that you have you know the Torah
also said I am a comma
the he
the comma many the Torah who was the
wisest person on the earth he tried to
understand the Torah and he couldn't.
What did he say?
The Torah
many does not mean that someone else
cannot figure it out. Okay? So the idea
yes but it's challenging and that's
exactly my point that I want to get from
my
up to
here that when he spoke about the 40
years and we got into all this
discussion.
Torah by the way is probably the most
challenging thing to deal with.
And I'm telling you that as a rabbi.
Um you have
many times you need to understand where
do you derive
the
um the conclusions from. A. B. Many
times it's not clear. C. There are so
many of the
D.
Many times you have this tension between
your cognitive understanding and your
emotional feeling towards that specific
question.
So it's very challenging but
for sure we can say we can all agree
upon
that without the Torah by the way
we will not be here today.
With all its complications and with all
of our complaints
without the Torah by the way and the
commitment to the Torah by the way we
will not be here.
If you want to I am here
look around.
When there is no commitment and there is
no
dedication and there are no rituals
it cannot be sustained for too long.
Yes.
So the question was on it says move it
all of them and all of them are on the
run.
They all seem to stay on the run all of
them.
So first and foremost the verse is
basically talking about the fact that
they accepted what?
The Torah.
The Torah comes along and say that they
re-accepted Torah.
Re-accepted and why? Because on Mount
Sinai they received it by all of them.
They were forced to. The Torah says the
Torah by the way
in all of them Torah in love
can't they have all of them? If you
accept it great and if not you will be
buried right here.
On Purim they accepted it from their own
Torah from their own will. That's the
this is the meaning of Torah by the way
all of them all of them
all of them. So
Oh, okay. I need to finish. So
we will continue with the Torah um
next week and until then you are on the
suspense. What exactly Moses received on
Mount Sinai? By the way, don't come with
too many expectations for next week. I
don't think I can add too much to that
but we will continue to understand.
Don't forget the title of this is the
link between the Torah and the Torah.
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