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The Creation & Reception of The Shulchan Aruch | Rabbi Anthony Manning | December 31st 2025
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that dedication as as well. So, uh, lots
of people, but there's no limit to how
many people. I suppose a limit is when
I'm just reading out the dedications for
an hour and there's no time for the
shar. But until until we get to that
stage, then, uh, I think we'll be we'll
be okay. Uh, today we're we're going to
do something a little bit different than
our normal uh, standard fair. It's going
to have a little bit more history. Um,
and we're going to be looking today at
in the last part of our series on the
development of Halaka. Two weeks ago, we
talked about rabbitic law and the
Sanhedrin. Last week, we talked about
the ceiling of the Talmud, when the
Talmud became accepted as the bottom
line for Jewish law. And today, we're
going to be looking at the Shukhan.
Everybody knows, I think, in this room,
what the shar was, the code of Jewish
law written in the early 1500s,
published in the 1550s, 1560s, actually.
Um, and, uh, we're going to be looking a
little bit more at why. Why was this
book written then? uh how was it
received? Why hadn't it been written
before in exactly this way? Um and I
think this is going to cast a lot of
light on the way we understand halaka uh
explain some of the difference between
the and the Ashkanaz in today and uh and
hopefully give us more insight into just
the way the halaki process works. So in
order to uh in order to get into this,
I'd like to give you a 12 to 15 minute
historical overview, maybe less. We'll
see if we can keep it to 10 cuz I we
need the time for the sources.
Last week we left off the story in
around the year 7800 CE. The Talmud had
been sealed, had been finished. The
Savoreim or Rabenu Savarai, Raban
Savoray, who were the final polishes of
the Talmud, put together all of the
Shacklear, the back and the fourth and
the questions and the answers etc. Uh
and then you had a period of
consolidation under the what we now call
the Gaonim in the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th
and 11th century. Uh the gaonim uh were
really putting together the final
touches to the Talmud and spreading it
as far and wide as they could. And their
period I mean there's a lot more we
could talk about there, but they lived
in Babylon uh in the great yeshivas of
Surah and Pomp Pedisa. And that period
of leadership if you like came to an end
in the the 10th and early 11th century.
How exactly that happened is an
interesting story. Again we're not here
to give a history sh and I'm sure you've
heard uh the shirim also from Rabbi Wise
and other people as well. But there is a
uh a story. Maybe it's more of a
mythical story. Maybe there's an element
of truth to it of the four captives who
were four great rabbis from the
Babylonianmies who were taken captive by
pirates in the Mediterranean and sold
off to different communities in Spain in
North Africa um and established new
communities if you like independent of
the Babylonian Goonet. Whether this
story of the pirates is true exactly
true or not is not relevant. But we know
for a fact that these communities were
established. This is their like
foundation story. And by the time we hit
the sort of medieval period, the 11th
12th century, we have very established
cahillas all around the Mediterranean,
which we're going to look at today,
which were largely independent of the
Babylonian onate. Even though the
Babylonians felt that they still had
that kind of role to play, it's very
clear by already the year 1050, 1150
that they did not. Who were these
communities? And this is what I want to
look at with you in the just in five or
six minutes. We I've highlighted here uh
three communities. Spain and North
Africa which of course is Sardi, France
and Germany which of course is Ashkanazi
and also Provence. Provence was
something of a bridge in between in the
south of France. Uh we'll see some of
the the key players there as well. Of
course there were other communities.
There were the Yemenes and we mustn't
forget that they were doing their thing
down in Yemen. a little bit isolated but
still in touch. They were still the
Babylonian, Iraqi and Iranian
communities, the Persians, but these
communities that I'm focused on today
were really the ones that fed into the
Shuan much less so the other
communities. So what I've done is I've
divided the um 500 years into sort of
rows here of a century each and
literally we could speak for a whole
hour on each of these centuries which
we're not going to. It's going to be a
very brief overview. But if we look just
for now for starters at the 11th
century. So looking at the Jews of North
Africa and Spain, you have the golden
age of Spain. And the key halahic figure
which I want to bring out for you here
is the riff Rabenu alasi Yitzkak Alfasi
who lived in the in uh in Morocco in
North Africa and he turned around and
basically said look the Gmorrah is great
but it's enormous and not everybody has
the time and the training to master the
whole of the shas. So what I'm going to
do is I'm going to write a safer which
is what he called his work and I'm not
going to write a separate book. I'm just
going to go through the garra in order
following the order of the mat and I'm
going to white out basically all the
bits that are not relevant in in sakala
maybe add a few comments here and there
we pass in this way we pass in that way
but what you're left with is a much
reduced shass cutting out all of the
midrashim all of the uh arguments back
and forth cutting out the opinions that
we don't follow and you're left with a
kind of truncated userfriendly
Mini Gomorra. Okay. And this is what we
call the riff. Of course, he said you
can still go and you should still go and
read the real thing. But for people who
need like a bit of a shortcut, this is
what I'm doing. And that's the riff.
Okay. Meanwhile, up in Ashkanaz, Rashi
and his students and grand students were
beginning to write commentaries on the
Gomorrah. And of course, Rashy's
commentary is perhaps the most famous of
all of them. And we'll see that that
became more the Ashkanazi Derek uh
certainly in this period to write
commentaries rather than separate works.
The next century there are two
characters I really want to focus on
really one particularly is the Rambam.
And again we could talk all day about
the Rambam. He was the most remarkable
Jew probably that ever lived since
Mosher Rabenu. And on his Kev of course
it's written Mosha Moshe Mosha. And they
wrote that for a good reason. He did
something a little bit different. In
fact very different. He did something
that no one had ever done before and no
one's ever done since in the world of
Halaka. He said, "I'm going to upload to
my mind the entire rabbitic corpus all
of the garrai, all of the usi, the
cifra, the cifray, the makila, all of
the midrashim, everything, all of the
onic works and the commentary up to his
day. He's living in the 1150s, '60s,
'7s. I'm going to rule every single on
every single issue that could ever come
up in Jewish life. Not just practically,
but also how to build a bas mikdash, how
to do and Tara, how to deal with. I'm
going to answer every question and I'm
going to reformat those answers into 14
new volumes which were later called the
Yad Kazak, okay? Which he called the
Mishnet Torah. This is the second Torah
because he says now you just need the
written Torah of Mosha Rabenu and the
new volumes of Mosha Benmmon which some
people thought was a little bit like uh
overreach in comparing himself but okay
for good reason maybe. And these 14
volumes comprising a thousand chapters
and over 15,000 new halot said
everything out that you could ever want
to know about Judaism in very clear do
this do that do this do that fashion.
Okay. And that was the Rambach. So now
we had that work in addition to the
riff. He largely agrees with the riff.
He's from the school of the riff. His
father uh Rabenuon was a student of the
Rei Gash who was a student of the riff.
But the Rambam's also independent and he
forges his own way and he does his own
thing. But largely he agrees with the
riff. Meanwhile in Ashkanaz, what's
going on? So all the students and grand
students of Rashi are writing what we
now know as the ballet of Tossphus
commentaries on the Gammorrah line by
line question by question you know they
say Rashi is there to make your life
easier and Tossphus is there to make
your life harder all the questions that
you hadn't thought of that now you think
of you think oh gosh that's how are we
going to answer that the sarity in the
Ashkenazi worlds was still quite
separate it was hard to move from one to
the other
even though he lived a hundred years
after Rashi had never read anything
directly that Rashi said because those
commentaries did not get to him. He
quotes some of his opinions but I don't
know if he knew who he was. But we have
uh in that century as I said the Rambam
the Balatosphus and others the riveted
in provence who was uh who was his own
important character certainly in the in
the growth of Kabala which we'll come to
soon um the 13th century um I just want
to deal with very briefly the 1200 to
1300 because in that century we had a
lot more travel between the two parts of
Europe already the the the rabbis in
Spain the Ramban Nakmanades and his
school, the Rashbah and the Ritzvah,
they already had seen lots of the
Ashkanazi works and they'd incorporated
a lot of their methodologies and
therefore you have a consolidation if
you like in that century of a lot of
analysis and the Spari and Ashkanazi
world meeting up with each other. The
last of the Balatophus was the Marram of
Rottenberg and we'll he's important for
what we'll see in a moment for one of
his key students. He of course was taken
prisoner. He died in prison and he was
if you like the end of that era. And
really lastly and again I'm doing this
very fast in the 15th in the 14th
century 1300 to 1400 you have what's uh
what I would say is a consolidation of
all of these ideas. The key moment in
the middle of the 1300s of course was
the black death in the 1340s and life
was never the same after as it was
before. 25% of all Jews died, 33% of the
general population. And in hakahic
terms, if you like, it was a line. Many
commentators see this as a line which is
difficult to actually uh cross because
of the the of the decline of the
communities after that. And the key
character that comes before that is the
rash. And I want to talk about him just
for a second. Who was the rash? Rabenu
Asher was the student of the Maram of
Rottenberg. He was Ashkanazi. He lived
in Germany. He and his son who became
known as the T rabakov Benh Harash
that's one of the origins of the name
Benerosh okay the the rash raasher and
his son the Torah they lived in Germany
in the late 1200s early 1300s and he
composed commentary on the Gomorrah as
well but much more hak commentary not
line by line commentary but a but a ma
by ma summary of all of the haki
conclusions and what's important for our
purposes is he had to run he had escaped
Germany. His his master, the Maram of
Rottenberg, was languishing in prison.
He knew that he'd end up there if he
didn't get out soon. And he ran with his
family and they went to Spain. So he's a
major Ashkenazi who has transferred and
transported himself, transplanted
himself to Toledo. He became the rob of
Toledo and he became a major figure in
the Spari community. But he was this
kind of ashkafi in the sense that he
came from one place, he ended up in
another place and his son the tour who
spent most of his life in Spain although
originally came from Germany was then a
little bit he was more faranage canazi
as rather than ashkavadi you know you
know what I mean he was he had more
roots in sparad and less roots in
Ashkanaz but he decided he was going to
write a summary as well and he wrote
something called the arbatim uh and he
had a new system where just a practical
haloka
and he summarizes lots of the opinions
that came before him. Rashi, toasters,
the rash, the ram bam, the rift because
again he felt he straddled both of those
Ashkenazi and spar worlds. Okay, Adan
are summary of three or 400 years. But
the key figures you need to bring from
that are the riff if you remember who
wrote this kind of truncated garra the
ram who set out an entirely new uh um
you know system of sac which is just the
appictic kind of do this don't do that
and then finally the rash who went from
Germany to Spain and composed this
commentary on the gammorra summarizing
all the hackic issues now the 1400s was
a disastrous time for everybody
In Spain, 1391
was really their what you might call
their cristallnak. That was the moment
at which they realized it was just all
going to go downhill from there. Mass
pograms, uh, burning down of
communities. And the hundred years from
1391 to 1492
was decline after decline after decline
until eventually 1492 they were
expelled. The Spanish Jews were expelled
and exploded all around the globe. Most
of them went to the Ottoman Empire. Some
of them went uh to Eastern Europe, but
Eastern Europe was just opening up then.
Some of them ended up in Erits Israel
through the Ottomans when the Ottomans
took Erits Israel. Some of them went to
the new world, you know, in the early
1500s. Some of them fled to Portugal,
but Portugal was just out of the frying
pan into the fire because only a few
years after the Spanish expulsion, the
Portuguese also decided they were going
to ban all Judaism. They didn't expel
the Jews, but they forced them to
convert. So now you have converso
communities living in Portugal and
Spanish and Portuguese Jews all over the
world. In the meantime, what was
happening in the 1400s for the
Ashkanazim. So as if the black death
wasn't bad enough, they were basically
pogram after pram um being expelled from
one t forget Germany didn't exist then
as a country. They were hundreds of tiny
principalities and the Jews were
expelled from one to the other to the
other to the other to the other.
expelled from England, expelled from
France, expelled from every single bit
of Germany and Switzerland that you
could think about. And after about 150
years of dreing around in circles trying
to make it work, they realized there was
only one place that they could really go
and that was east.
East into the like uh the the the lunar
landscape if you like of Lithuania,
Poland. These were places Lithuania.
They were still worshiping trees. the
non-Jews in Lithuania in the 13th 14th
century was like going to Mongolia but
where else can you go you can't go to
Spain the Jews are all trying to get out
the you can't stay in Europe so they
went east and they went to Lithuania
they went to Latia they went to Russia
etc so now if you take a snapshot of
jewelry in the year 1500
everything is a big mess whereas 3 or
400 years before the Jews the
communities were settled they'd lived
there for hundreds of years they had the
Masora you had the Spanish you had the
Ashkanazim you the province provincial
now in 1500 everyone's a refugee you
have Ashkanazam and Sardim living
together everywhere in the Ottoman
Empire in Europe if they can stay there
in Russia and a couple of people woke up
in the early to mid 1500s and realized
that this disaster had to be addressed
in terms of halaka because you didn't
have that clarity anymore you couldn't
be in the shaw of your grandparents and
great-grandparents and great great
grandparents etc everybody was mixed all
over the world. And this is where we
pick it up on page number two. So, we'll
see that there are only 10 sources on
this week sheet, but some of them are
real uh jumbo sources. And this is the
first one. This is the biggest one.
What I want to show you in the next 40
minutes is the bet of Yasf Caro's
summary of why he's doing what he's
doing and then four or five responses to
that which will give you a a window onto
what happened after that in the Sari and
Ashkanazi worlds. So let's start off
with a very brief biography. Raf Ysef
Caro born uh in 1488 expelled with his
family in 1492 goes to Portugal gets out
of Portugal ends up in the Balkans and
the Ottoman Empire in what's now Turkey
and he lives there as a young man and
eventually he comes to Erit Israel in
already in the 1120s he started a major
work which he called the betf in a
minute why he called it the bet and
you'll see now what was that
Uh
>> 1520s, sorry. 1520s. Sorry, did I say
11? 15 the 1520s. He starts his Thank
you for that. 1520s he started already
um the work on the bet yourself and
we'll see now his an excerpt from his
introduction. We'll see what he was
doing and why he was doing it. So we're
going to read this quite fast. We don't
need to dwell on every single word, but
it'll really set the scene. Number one,
[clears throat]
the the life has gone on. The years have
gone on so much.
We've been upturned from one vessel to
another vessel. He's writing this in the
1520s, 1530s.
All these terrible and frequent
tragedies that we've we've encountered.
We gone from one to the other.
Now we're in a state where we could say
about ourselves
the the the the wisdom of the wife is
wives is gone
the the hand the the mastery of Torah
and its and its students is gone from
us.
years before elyuspar
there are in innumerable Torah there are
countless Torah
has because there's so many books
which have tried to set out what the
Torah says we're just now in a complete
mess there are so many different books
and we're all over the place and if a
person were to say on every
I want to investigate every den back to
the with all of the commentaries.
This will be incredibly [snorts]
difficult for anybody.
All the more so if you want to really
engage in finding the origins in the
Gmorrah of all of these denim. Don't
forget the Gomorrah doesn't set things
out in a linear way. It doesn't have a
beginning, a middle, and an end. Every
page of the Gomorrah assumes that you
already read every other page of the
Gomorrah. It's like a million piece
jigsaw puzzle where you have the people
throw the pieces in front of you and the
picture is changing all the time and
it's not even one picture. Uh and
therefore the Gammorra is extremely
difficult to go through even if you've
learned all of the pages that you think
deal with that particular hak question.
There could be just three lines
innocently hiding away at the end of a
page in a completely random you don't
think is even connected which change the
whole way that you look at the so he
says that's even harder
we've got the magishna he says
also an inkazi that went to Spain
he said we do have some help along the
way but it's not that uh it's it's not
going to help anybody third paragraph
If this is the case when we're faced
with looking at
someone who really wants to understand
properly
and understand all of the distinctions
for him,
he's just not not going to be able to do
it.
Even if you try and find every garra and
every commentary,
which is going to be an enormous work,
people are so forgetful. People are
living in like sorus. They've got no
head for learning. Everybody's a
refugee. They've got no money.
Your your effort is all going to be in
in vain. Shalom. You won't be able to do
it. And therefore, comes now super rabbi
to the rescue. Al therefore anadal balpi
I'm just a a small one in my tribe ysef
Ben Moreno Harav Ben Moreno Harav Ysef
Caro now don't think his name is Cairo
is he never went to Cairo as far as I'm
aware is from the word yakar meaning
precious okay it's the word even in in
Latin k means precious I believe okay
kamia okay fine I assume you're not
talking to me you're talking to your
husband but that's okay fine
>> oh you're fine
Okay, fine. So, I am who am I to do
this? But
I have become zealous on this.
I've shaken off my cloak
and I've paved a new path for his I've
decided to write a book
including all the
which are practical. Meaning, I'm not
going to go like the ramb into every
single that ever existed anywhere. I'm
just going to keep it practical.
I'm going to tell you where they come
from.
I'm going to give all of the the
reasoning
that all of the commentaries give.
I'm not leaving anybody out.
I I decided I didn't want to make this a
a self-standing book
because then I'd have to repeat all the
work of everybody that came before
before I even got to my own analysis and
therefore
and therefore I decided to write my book
as a commentary around somebody who'd
already started the work so I didn't
have to do that again. Now if you were
the you were Ravias Caro and you were
going to pick somebody the greatest
hakic mind of of all time to write a
commentary around who would you pick?
>> The Rambam obviously and therefore for
Alabadi and I first thought
Rambam I'm going to write my commentary
around the Rambam
and here he's setting down his uh cards.
As far as I'm concerned the Rambam is
king. He is the greatest POS ever. And
you'll see that even though later he's
going to tell you I have a system of at
the end of the day the ramam looms very
large in all the of so I was going to
use the ram the but I changed my mind
because he only brings one opinion whose
opinion
>> his opinion okay and there's nothing
wrong with that opinion he says but how
does that help me with my great
magnumopus I I want someone to start me
off and and do some of work for me.
I would have had to go on a great
length.
I'd have to write all the other opinions
in
and therefore
so I decided to write my commentary
around the T the B the son of the rash
because
he does a good job at setting out a lot
of the opinions and that's true if you
read the Torah Torah was written in the
early 1300s and he's now coming 200
years later the Torah sets out six or
seven opinions He says the Rambam says
this and Rashi says this and Tosha says
this and my father says this and etc. So
that's a great place to start. Okay,
fifth paragraph nimsa. So it's going to
turn out
someone who has my book in front of him.
This is his list of things that going to
be there. I'm going to read this real
quick and this is not even the entire
list. This is what you're going to get.
He's selling his book. Okay.
Haramifi
all set out in front of you. So he did
an un unbelievable exercise of
collecting manuscripts. Don't forget
every almost everything was manuscript.
Printing had just been invented about 70
80 years before. He's going to refer to
it in a minute. But almost everything he
had was in manuscripts. He says so first
I'm going to get all of these
manuscripts together which was not
straightforward if you think of the the
kind of postwar
environment in Europe that he was in.
But he says, "I'm going to do that and
collect them all together and then
you're going to have everything set out
in front of you and then at the end he
says
and in a few places mare zohar and I'm
going to sprinkle in a little zohar here
and there and that's already very very
interesting little radical. He's going
to bring some of the sakim of the zohar
as part of his his endeavor in the bet.
Now we had a whole bunch of sharing
which I think we should redo on the
relationship between Cababala and Hala.
He doesn't mix them too much but he does
a little and the Zoha then gets into the
Hakic system. You should know that Ravi
Caro himself independently of his hakic
work was a high octane cabalist. He had
a relationship with a maggot with a
voice that spoke through his mouth. He
used to have a little room in his house.
I've actually been into his house. It's
hard to get in in spat, but you can go
there and you can go in the little room
where he spoke with his maggidd. He
spoke and the maggid, this voice spoke
back through his own voice and people
could hear it speaking to him for hours
and days and weeks and months on end.
And he recorded all of this in a book
called Magged Me Sharim. Now, most of
it's got nothing to do with Halaka. It's
to do with Cabala and and the Spherus
and other things like that. But he was a
very accomplished cabalist. He was part
of a whole group with Ram Mosha Cordo.
uh as well uh Rav Schlommo Hale the
alabets uh they they were together as
the cabalists ofat but that comes a
little bit later so let's put the cabala
on hold he's already writing he's going
to put a little zoh now then he has a
paragraph I'm on I should have numbered
the paragraphs 1 2 3 4 5 6 paragraph
number six
but everybody knows he says
that all of these ashkanazi postkim
They generally just follow
and therefore if I leave them out from
time to time
don't judge me. Don't judge me because
I'm going to leave a load of Ashkanazim
out because they kind of all say the
same thing.
It's not going to go down too well that
statement. Okay.
because if I bring you the view of
I don't need to bring all those other
great holy rabbis
that they normally follow. So that's one
thing he's like laid down and said I'm
not going to get too much on the uh the
Ashkanazi postkim and then I brought you
a couple of lines which I'm not going to
read now and he said and I've already
picked up let me just read the first
line the balad and I've got hold of
some of the responsor of the rashbahel
written in an iron penet
on a printing press says I've got hold
of a print a book a real printing book
of the chubis of the rashbah and he's
going to go on to say and on the front
it's just all wrong. It says it's the
chubis of the ramb and and you see
already that the printing solved a lot
of problems but it created a lot of new
problems. Don't forget printing doesn't
make any mistakes. You know it prints
exactly what you programmed it or set it
to print. But if you set it wrong then
it produces thousands of wrong versions
of what you just printed. And he's
already alluding to this and says don't
worry I'm on it. I know it says the
Ramban and it's really the Rashbah etc.
but that's just that's the nature of
printing. Next paragraph, paragraph
seven.
And it occurred to me
after all of this gathering of
information,
I'm going to ask
and I need to make a decision between
all of these opinions because isn't that
the purpose?
The Jewish people need one Torah, one
ruling. No more Ashkanazim, no more
Safaradim, one rule for everybody
because this is going to be the new
reality. Now, it could be argued and
some do argue that he didn't really
think he had authority over all the
Ashkanazi communities up in Poland and
Lithuania, but they were they were new
communities. They hadn't been there for
very long. They were refugees
themselves. His area of authority was
what he called Arabistan. Arabistan
which was basically the Ottoman Empire
plus the Middle East as we know it,
Persia, Saudi Arabia, maybe Yemen as
well, Egypt because of course there are
no Jews left in Spain anymore. So he I'm
not sure he thought he was going to be a
POS for the Ashkanazim, but I'm not even
sure he thought the Ashkenazim were
worth being a POS for but at that stage.
Okay. And I thought and I realized
If we're going to make the hakic ruling
batus with claims and arguments various
tal and talmudic um
arguments pillpool going through if
we're going to do that
look at these people that came before me
to the ramban the rashbah the ram
they're very analytical
they are filled with all of the
arguments
of every single um view there could
Who who who am I to add to what they've
done? I mean, I can't do it any better.
You see all of the different arguments
laid out in those other both and
Ashkanazi postk because don't forget the
ran and the rashba they' already taken
on very Ashkanazi styles of argument
from the balattosas because there was a
lot of mixture and therefore who am I to
do that? I'm not going to do that.
Who's going to stick his head between
the mountains? This is a rabbitic
phrase,
the divine mountains.
I'm going to contradict them. I'm going
to reanalyze.
I'm going to say what they didn't say.
I'm not going to do that. I don't feel I
can do that. I'm not worthy of doing
that. Meaning, he sees that the line a
line has been drawn. He even though we
said last week that in theory after the
Gomorrah everybody's on the same playing
field as long as you're not arguing with
the Gomorrah you can argue with anybody
if you can prove it he says no I don't
feel that I feel a line has been drawn
maybe that line was the expulsion maybe
that line was the black death because
the ram the last one he writes about was
just before the black death and he said
I'm just not able to to argue with these
people I'm not even going to try I'm not
even going to put myself in that
position
for our many sins
the base of our of our intellect has
just gone down in just understanding
what they say
all the more so being cleverer than them
I'm not going to try and do that not
only
even if we wanted to try and do that
I just don't have the time one lifetime
is not enough to to reanalyze the whole
Talmud so what's his secret weapon he
says I'm going to come up with a new
system, a formula, a formul for what's
the word? Formalistic system. I'm not
going to argue all the points. I'm going
to take a new a new way of sack. What's
what am I going to do? I'm five five
paragraphs up from the bottom.
I've made a decision.
The three great pillars of sackabel.
The whole Jewish nation rests on these
three pillars. Who are they? The riffam.
I'm now saying to myself,
if if I can find a majority and two out
of three will agree,
that's going to be the meaning. I'm not
even going to argue it out. I'm just
going to see if two out of these three
agree. That's the If three out of three
agree. Oh, wow. That's like, you know,
Vegas. It's like three cherries in
Vegas. Whatever.
Not that I've ever been on the slot
machines in Vegas. Okay. It's is that's
that's a jackpot. But if even two out of
three agree, I'm going to go for that.
I'm doing that.
Uh one second. Lost the place.
Unless there are situations,
unless I know that this opinion, even
though it's two out of three or three
out of three, it's it's not the accepted
opinion. Okay, fine. If that's if
everybody doesn't follow that,
if there's a min in Israel that we don't
follow that opinion, okay, okay, fine. I
respect Israel, but that's never it's
rarely going to happen. Also, I'm not
even sure if he was clued into all of
the minhagim of all of the different
places that could be.
in a time when one of these three
doesn't tell me what he's thinking
about.
What am I going to do if I only have
two, the third one doesn't give an
opinion and the two disagree with each
other? I I've got no way of asking. So
what am I going to do? Then I'm not
ignoring the other people. Haraman,
there's the Ramban. Harashbah, there's
the Rashbah, there's the Ran, there's
the Morai, the Smag, Lefalenu. I have
all those to fall back on.
Wherever the wind of the holy wind of
Torah learning goes, we'll go with it.
And we'll go with we'll find a consensus
or a majority of them. So, I'm going to
go with riff ra. If I cannot find a
majority of those three, then we'll look
elsewhere and we'll see if we can find a
consensus. Great. Um,
when when when none of them told me what
they think on this
and then we'll have to analyze and we'll
go on etc etc and then he says and if
you have in your country you have a a
particular custom to be mahmir then I'm
not coming to tell you to be lenient
because you have to follow your own
opinion if you're Mahmir by implication
by the way he says but if you're lenient
and I want you to be mahm you better
fall in line because that's the noosak
and at the end he says
for last paragraph
and who is this book for the the value
of this book is going to be clear to
they'll use it and and some argue that
he even said if you're a great you can
use it to actually formulate your own
sack because I've collected everything
together maybe he wasn't trying to pass
for everybody
and if you want just a shortcut through
the haki system.
This is the long short road. This will
get you the way
and someone who doesn't have the
background, who doesn't have the
learning, who's really getting a bit
scratching his head with this whole
business,
then at least you can use my commentary
to try and use it as a an understanding
of what the Torah is saying. Finally, he
says,
"This book is the food. This will
sustain all the Jewish people.
That's why I've called it. His name of
course is Ysef.
I call him because just like Joseph in
Egypt was the one who sustained the
whole world through his uh leadership
and his uh the way he built up the food.
You are going to get all your
sustenance. Yes.
Where? Where are you looking?
>> Okay.
>> Yeah. No, it's meant to be the Ramban
because he he he wants to go to the
Ramban.
>> No, no, he said the Ramban before my
monities before. He's
>> This is the first time he's mentioning
the Ramban in this section.
>> Ah, in this section. Okay. But he's
mentioned him before. Well, he said
already, I'm going to use the Ramban.
The Ramban, we'll see soon is a very
significant Sarity Posic. He's not
ignoring him, but he's not the Rambo.
He's not my monities in the same way.
Let's go over the page cuz we have a lot
to do. What do we have to say? I need to
go on. I'm not going to get this done in
20 minutes. You I I Let's just set out
the material and I'm happy to stay back
a little bit at the end. I want to give
you six or seven responses to this and
you'll see what they are. Uh some of
them will speak out outside, some of
them will read inside. So, how did
everybody react to this? And of course
what he did is he published this over
the 1550s the whole bet and then he
wrote a kitsur he wrote a summary called
the which is literally this thick you
can he wrote it to be reviewed every 30
days he divided into 30 sections he said
this is just a really shorthand book you
can stick it in your back pocket you can
learn a section every day for a month
and go through it every month it's
really a small book it's just a summary
of everything I said okay great let's
start with the spardim number
This is
okay. So he is Greek Ottoman Empire
Ysef Caro even though he's written this
book
and he says we have to follow this
majority of the riff the Rambam and the
Rash etc. We'll go with two out of
three.
But I've heard he says already, this is
in the the late 1500s
that lots of people really don't like
this so much
and they're disagreeing with him face to
face
on this way that he's basking
and he he does this all through his book
and whenever the riff and the ram say
the same thing he that's how he pascates
and by the way the riff and the ram
almost always say the same thing. So
it's already waited apart from the fick
fact that the riff was far and the ram
was far and the rash was ashkardi.
Okay.
So you have a heavy waiting. If you're
going to say riff ram rash and whenever
two of them agree well you've kind of
weighted your dice because the riff and
the ram agree almost everywhere that
they go. So he says that's how it's
going to work with him.
Vafidas I'm naked.
And and he's he's going with these two
even against the rash
and many other rabbis
bail hakm whichever way this goes to be
lenient or strict he's going with this
majority
what about the rash what about all his
rabbis what about rashi
they weren't reed cutters in the swamp
what's going on here the worst thing you
can call someone in the Gomorrah is that
your rebby is a reed cutter in the swab.
Meaning, you know, where did you learn
to your rebby must be a a schleer? Like,
you know, you're calling the rash a
schleer. You're calling the rash a reed
cutter. You're going to go with the riff
and the ram against the rush like almost
every timed.
Who's going to be lenient against who's
going to lightaded if you like against
the rash?
isra even to allow Torah prohibitions
just because the riff and the ram agree
especially in our countryardim
the rash is the rov of the spardim now
that's super interesting because the
rash was originally from Germany so
there are some academics that want to
argue that the reason the shan or
includes the rush is as like a throw a
bone to the to the you know there's the
riff and there's a Rambam and they're
the real deal and there's the rash
because he's the Ashkanazian. But he's
saying no no no no the rash was a very
authoritative figure in the sparard
community. In fact, if you look into it,
you'll see that depending on which Spari
uh state or or principality you were
from, you had a different kind of
approach. Uh in Catalonia
um and Navar and Aragon, they tend to go
like the Rambam Mymones. But in
Castilia, which is where the rash lived
in Toledo, they followed the rash. The
Spardian followed the rash. So this
Spardy commentator is saying to the
saying to the to the bet, this is great,
but but you haven't featured the rash
who is a sparse enough. So it could be
that actually the rash is not a bone
that's thrown to the Ashkanazim, but the
rash is there because the shukan wants
to have a kind of panberian
sack. So let's go for all the people
that sparred him like. But he says,
"Even so, you haven't focused on the
rash enough and we don't like that."
Okay, that's one approach. Then I
brought you in number three, a a
littleknown rav called Yseph Iban Ezra.
Uh he's not the Ibanzra that you know
and love. He's a Ibanzra 3 or 400 years
later. And look what he says. He's in
awe of the the
God has made appear in the in the land
of Israel. This great light
He's he's prepared the whole world with
his
brought everything into his house. He's
done an incredible job and he's called
this the bet.
We've never seen anything like this in
terms of analysis. It's amazing.
even though this is such an incredibly
big thing he's done.
No one could who could have done this
but nevertheless
but there are there's lots of confusion
in this book. He says
he says if you you can't just shortcut
the whole process. There's lots of
issues on which he's kind of just
summarized but that's not really the
whole story.
Nagar uben nagar you need a carpenter
and the carpenter's son meaning in order
to do this job you can't just hire the
the guy you have to hire the guy and he
has to bring his family you have to have
a whole team meaning you can't do there
are no shortcuts to these ideas you
can't just give one sec
you have to bring a whole team of people
in to understand what's going on
there are many cases
he gives the impression that everybody's
happy or everyone agrees
but when you look into it further
and it's not true. You uncover it a bit
more deeply and he's kind of papered
over the cracks. It's not so
straightforward
especially in monetary law
you have to know all these other
opinions. Why why is it so important in
monetary law? Because in a based in on a
monetary claim, one of the principles of
monetary law is that the litigant can
say kimley. What does kimley mean?
Kimley means I want to follow the
minority opinion. Meaning you claim I
owe you the money. That's very nice. The
majority sack goes with you. BUT I HOLD
LIKE the dot dot dot and you can say
that in monetary law. And therefore, are
you going to prove to me that this is
the wrong opinion? I hold like him. I
follow him. Now, in order to have Kimi
as a as a as a as a kind of weapon in
your arsenal, you have to have access to
lots and lots and lots of different
opinions. And he's just narrowed them
all down. He's just to push them all
out. And he said like, you know, these
are the only ones you need to to know
about. And here the this review is
saying, I don't know. There's lots of
other people that you've just kind of
pushed out of the door which we need to
know about. If someone's going to have a
based in case they need to know these
other opinions and and he's in love with
the work. He thinks it's fantastic. He's
totally in awe of it, but it's just not
enough. You can't be a litigant in a
based in case with just the shor in your
back pocket. Now, what's happened
actually over the last 500 years is the
range of opinions for Kimi has become
basically what the bet Ysef brings. And
now, if you're not in the bet Yosesef,
you're probably not in. And he was
afraid that would happen. And it did
happen. So, he's not happy. But in
principle, he loves the work. But now we
come to the ra in Kraken. Ra Mosha
Isilis woke up basically at the same
time had the same idea. We're all in a
mess. We're all living in Poland and
Lithuania and Latafia and everyone's
lost their misora. We were all from
Germany and France and we don't know
what where we're coming from. I'm going
to do this. I'm going to write this
work. I'm going to write this master
work collecting all these resources and
I'm going to pass. The story goes that
one of his students, one of the remar
students in Krakco came to him one day
with this newly printed book, this beta
and said, "Rebi, I brought you a
present. This book is, you love this.
This is your kind of book." And he opens
it and he says, "This is not my kind of
book. This is my book.
This is my book. What am I going to do?
I'm in the middle of writing my book."
And so was just published. And of course
printing meant that the bet yourself
could be on the desk of every Rob in
Europe within a few decades which had
never ever happened before. So he writes
he was very upset and he didn't know
what to do. His whole life his PhD
someone just come out with his thesis
before him. Okay. But he says you know
something I'm going to read it. And he
read it and he said this is fantastic
but but come on the Rambam the riff
ubisardi the rash.
Okay, maybe Ashkanazi originally, but
like he's a Robert Toello and that's why
everyone sees him. Well, what about all
the Ashkenazi people? Where where are
they? So, he wrote his book eventually
and he he called it the uh the D Moshe
because his name was Moshe Isodus. And
he writes a long introduction which he
writes in rhyming pros.
Okay. and I thought of trying to
translate it in rhyming English pros,
but realized that I probably wasn't up
to it and I had other things to do this
week that needed to be done. But I
brought you basically what he says. Look
at number four.
It doesn't completely rhyme. I'm sorry.
But he said goes after he's really
attracted to
he passes like these two or three
witnesses.
These are the great
and whenever they agree he goes with
them but over the page to page four
but the other great rabbis in he doesn't
pay attention to them.
But he goes just like two out of three.
And even though his the ones he picked
are the earlier ones. Yeah. The Rambam
was 1100s. The riff was 1000s. The rash
was 1200s. That's great.
And he doesn't follow the later ones.
He doesn't follow the the the ruling of
the earliest of the early ones who
himself is the riff.
Doesn't the riff say
that we always go with the later
authority
and not to follow the earlier authority.
So he says I have a different approach.
I don't go with your two out of three uh
approach because it's way too first of
all it's a bit random it's a bit ashwari
and it's also focusing on the early
authorities but I have a tradition from
the riff himself and from the Gmorrah
that we like the later authorities
because they know all of the material
from the earlier authorities and they
take that into account fourth line
even if the rav is going against the we
go with the
we always go with a later authority
And there's all these
because they solve all our problems and
cast light on our darkness
by doing what he did.
The bet Ysef has gone against all the
minhagim that we follow in our Ashkanazi
communities
and they're based on this idea that we
follow the later authorities. The
Ashkanaz followed the Maharik and the
Mahari and the Mahar.
Sorry, I just did that.
And we don't criticize those later ones
and I don't want to criticize them
either. Therefore, I've written
I've written in his in in my book, this
is what the is
and I've given my reasons
and I've written who said this if it's
not me, etc., etc. So, he said, "Look, I
love your book, but too far, too early,
doesn't take account of the later
Ashkanazi authorities or even the
earlier ones for that matter. I'm not
going to contradict it. I'm going to
write a gloss on it. And he wrote to the
shar to the of Ysef Caro and he said,
"Can I rather than writing my whole
thing from scratch? Can I just put my
comments into your meaning I'm going to
write my own commentary on the Torah
which now appears on the Torah together
with the bet the Moshe, but I'm instead
of writing my own, can I just put myself
in yours?" And Ravio said, "Fine, you
can do that." which was very humble of
him because this was an Ashkanazi from
the middle of nowhere much younger than
him and he was the rob of these of
Arabistan which was also all the Jews
nevertheless he said he could do it and
that's what we have so now if you open
the you have the sack of these
and you have a gloss here and a gloss
there of the ram bringing in the
Ashkenazi min okay last and really we
need 15 minutes to do this but I'm not
going to take 15 minutes to do
I brought you the views of those
Ashkanazi authorities that basically
said the whole exercise is
inappropriate. Look, look at the Yamcha
Schlomma. He has probably the strongest
wording. Number five,
a relative of the Ramon in Poland in the
1500s.
We've just This doesn't rhyme, by the
way, so I don't have to say it in
rhyming pros. Okay.
We've got a hold of this new book of
these.
He brings all these new ideas from
ancient books.
We didn't have them until he collected
them.
He's brought all these unusual. I mean,
he's not criticizing this, but we never
heard of all these people because they
were manuscripts from afar.
He didn't leave anything out. He really
achieved what he wanted.
What could you say against this? What am
I how am I going to criticize this? It's
amazing.
But
he's made compromises. But
he's come up with his own system of this
kind of two out of three
and with Sporus Sporuses. He's just kind
of go, you know, oh, we'll go with two
out of three. That's how we do it. But
when it comes to many times in etc.
And it goes against our traditions as
Ashkanazim as well
and the kids, the young, the young, they
love this book
and they don't realize that they read it
at their peril.
because he often goes against the people
that we pass like here in Poland
and they're making a big mistake.
They say this is what's in his book and
that's the they say
this is explicitly in the that's what
they say
and that's the evil that's before them.
They believe something because it's
written in a book. Who believes
something just because it's written in a
book.
And if someone stands up
and stands and squawks like a crane the
bird yeah
that's not the but he brings real proofs
or real traditions
no one pays any attention to this other
person the oldfashioned type
and I've written about this
gets a bit cynical now especially these
days he says
for our many sins
lots of people have
but not a lot of them have any brains.
[laughter]
Okay.
And that's why
that's why they like this book
because they don't need to think. They
don't need to learn. They don't need to
go through the whole Gmorra. can just
read in the book
and now are like
and kids are like elders because
everyone can just look it up in the book
and he says number six this is not the
way
this is not the destination
from the days of
we never pas like any specific authority
because we have to whether the early
ones or the later ones.
Someone who is able to do so has to do
what?
You have to learn the garra and relearn
it and relearn it and become a talmudic
genius and pass in the way you think the
is based on the
and if there's no clear answer in the
bley then look elsewhere meaning how do
you pass in not from a book not from a
system of you become a talmudic genius
and you base your hala on the talmud and
if you can't do that then ask someone
who can and this was an approach really
of almost All of the 16th century
Ashkanazim, I brought you the the Marsha
and on the last page on number five, the
Bach. All saying the same kind of thing.
You can't pass them from a book. You
have to pass them from the Talmud. In
number 10, the Mahar the Maharal rather,
which I I'm not going to read with you
now because we're out of time. The moral
says even it's it's better for Kim to do
his best and pass it from the Gmorrah
even if he gets it wrong
than to pass it out of a book and get it
right. Because the way halaka works, the
way you keep halaka fresh and responsive
and and and in innovative is by basing
it on the genius of the Talmud, not on
somebody's kits that they wrote based on
the sack. Okay. Who won? Well, it
depends on who you ask. uh in Sari land
the bet won and the methodology the bet
uh became uh you know authoritative and
if you look at Rabadi you know miman and
the bet is is king
>> okay that's a bin that's a bit different
in the world of the ashkanazim who won
so I just want to leave you with one
little visual clue the Ashkanazim
eventually said you know something we're
not going to argue with who's going to
argue with the bet yourself but this is
a page
Now they just turned it back into the
garra meaning they they did they didn't
reject it but they got their own way by
saying yes we passing the but here's 15
commentaries on the as to what it really
means which is exactly the opposite of
what yvar wanted. He wanted a book that
you put in your back pocket and then
they made it back into 15 volumes of
closed small type. So who won? The
ashkinazi won but they won kind of the
khma in the end. Okay, fine. It's not
It's more complicated than that, but we
don't have time. Uh, next week we're
going on to other things. Uh, let's
leave it there for now, and I'm happy to
answer questions. Thank you.