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Surrendering to the Yetzer Harah or Fighting Against It | Rabbi Neil Winkler | January 8th 2026
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I want to go back and just to keep you
up to date, I should say, but what we
where we left off about the mitzvah of
Asia Torah of the um the Torah's
somewhat real troubling laws of a um of
an Israelite
um soldier who wants to uh marry. He was
a uh P
of a a pagan rel you know of a foreign
nation. Um we went through um first we
were discussing this law which begins in
as
we said we showed that in the sectioning
of
um there is a section of the laws of war
there all there also the section after
this mitzvah the law of a family
familial war uh laws. So, we were trying
to fit in where this mitzvah was. Is it
the law of war or is it a law that has
to do with uh society and for the
family? Uh it is a question,
but it's a very important question
because it gets us a better idea of what
this specific law really is. And it is
not what we assume it was and not what
many of the forim say that it is. Um
[snorts] and Ra um Yan Yoni Gman who has
really gave a given a very fascinating
approach to this uses the Maporim
um those uh mafim that are well known
although the Ibenezar and the Rambam is
the Rambam we get through them also um
to bring out what this law truly is and
what it was meant to be. Is it a war of
a law of war? Is it of family? Is it
both? In going through that, we
especially focused on the law that came
before this law, the law at the end of
the para
of a chauffet.
And that is the law of the um egra ela
arufa
that when there is a um a murdered
corpse found between two
cities
ritual that they have to go through so
on and so forth and so forth. Um
and that seems to be also as many of the
foram say a law of war. Uh specifically
they may say that well look it is a part
of law. This is a a a personal
a personal war between one and another
killing somebody else. How strong that
is is
>> [singing]
>> um we don't know. one one can
feel very satisfied with that type of
response and that answer. Others can say
well maybe it's something but maybe not.
Um but now
I want to go ahead
um
and I want to go to the approach of the
clear
the clear
fascinating push and the clear
when I first studied the kakar I started
reading
And as a pulpit rabbi, I said, "Boy,
this sounds like this is one of his uh
he he he gave a wonderful uh sermon on
chabas and then he he wrote it down on
Sunday and I looked at it and indeed I
found out he was a ra of bashul and much
of this came from his dashas which is
interesting but he's always a
fascinating fascinating approach to
things.
So
the view of the um cleakar
um we find here on source number
um six and it's 6 C. I don't know if you
have the Okay, so I'm going to give it
to you so that you can um you know
follow along now you wish okay you'll
see it it under I have here
is six and we're going to go to C which
is a clear and unfortunately why did I
not give the let me just see if I have
the ones with the translation I thought
I did record this. You give them your
bar to written.
>> No, I was never told I I could do such a
thing or how I did it, but I ah here it
is. Good.
I know I had English.
There we go. Here it is.
All right.
Ah,
very end.
Good.
Here
we go.
The excellent.
I'm sorry.
>> Thank you.
>> On top [snorts] of here. Okay. There you
have the English also. So, we can all
understand it.
In discussing the law of the egg arufa,
this strange ritual upon discovering a
um a murdered
corpse and no one knows who the murderer
was. Um
has an interesting approach and he says
he starts with now he said
he said look it literally means lift
your eyes means look carefully at mashal
what kazal say and what do kazal say and
you have it here in the English um says
the following
why am I all so difficulty that I don't
have the the uh stuff.
Um
six
I'm up to seven and uh 7 66.
Okay. So the cleakar says the following.
The rabbis say that the reason for this
law, this strange ritual that we say uh
is that the calf that could not produce
fruit, you know, this is what Rashi
says. By the way, no it be was not a
calf that was not allowed to live long
enough to produce his own fruit, her own
fruit um is taken um down to a field uh
that has not yet uh either given out
fruit uh so that um and the um and he is
I'm say beheaded in effect uh as a
atonement for the fact that whoever this
murderer was did not allow this person
the victim to have his own fruits is
have his own children and grandchildren.
Okay. So um this reason the reason is
logically based upon not simply this but
the preceding law the law before before
um
eggla arufah is the one that says that
you're not allowed to destroy you're not
allowed to destroy a fruit tree during
the uh um during a time of war when one
is surrounding
uh a a city, right? Um when he's not
allowed to um in doing so and laying and
in surrounding a a city, I'm losing the
words laying a well, those who are here
know what word I'm speaking to. uh uh
around the city, one is not allowed to
destroy a fruit tree, right? And um
thear says, well, this is a connects
very clearly to the bo the next law of
the arufah and what they have to do. In
effect, he says, what is the difference
between a tree and a person? And that's
what the Torah itself says. Uh
Sad he said um and uh he said if a man
is like eight and a man is like a tree
so if you can't destroy a tree
you know so certainly in that allowed to
destroy a human being and he ends by
saying interesting he said in Hebrew he
says
I'll call
which in English means I am surprised
that the commentators did not see this
connection. I saw it but they did not.
So he saw that connection and um
it's a very interesting thing but
Roni Gman
adds something to that which I think is
going to help us understand the entire
mitzvah and hopefully have we'll have
time to do just that and give you a
whole different approach to what this is
about.
um looking at the text itself and we
have that in the beginning I believe I
have it as number five is it um he might
say hello yeah number five uh if you
look number five I think with the
English I don't know if you have that I
think you have you may not have the page
uh with number five on it but uh if you
don't have it I'll give it to anyway it
is uh number five or it says says
I will I don't think you have that page.
I think you have just from six on let me
tell or maybe you do number five
uh it should be yeah number five four
five what six seven you see I'm so tight
>> 46 78
>> how about here's five okay there okay
there was it was clearly it was stapled
incorrectly
>> nice speaking you'll need a person again
Okay. So there number five in you know
in in the mitzvah of the egg
and just quickly to go through this what
it says there. He says, "Look, if in the
land a murdered corpse is found lying in
the open and the identity of the slayer
is not known, then your elders and uh
judges shall go out and measure the
distances from the corpse to the nearby
towns. Then the elders of the nearest
town shall take a hepher which has never
been worked nor ever pulled in. O yoke
and uh bro bring bring her down to an
untilled and unsewn um wadi and there in
the wadi they shall break the heer
there. This is all what we already know.
And the the importance here while I'm
taking down the text is unfortunately
not found here in the English
translation.
The term that is used here
that the Torah pointedly does not use
the simple word of someone who died
which is a a mate. A mate is a
>> question. How do they know this man was
murdered? Let's say he fell off the
horse and and he died and he's in the
middle of now place. What would they do
for him then? No, but then that's not a
murder. You have to clearly know it was
a murder.
>> Know the guy was murdered.
>> Very simple. Because you can't you
cannot commit suicide with a with a a
rifle. You know, [laughter] there are
certain things that you clearly see
exactly that you you can't do yourself.
Um, so you see that it's done in a
in a way that's clearly a murder, you
know, and that's when this happens. And
you're right, there might be places
where, like I said, someone falls off
the horse. That wouldn't be the law.
>> What period of time are we talking about
with their gods going way back? people
got killed with.
>> Of course, it's in the Torah. So, it's a
time of the ancient to whatever they had
swords, they had shields, they had um
knives, they had things like that that
were used in war, they had they had
arrows also. Remember that? That's
right.
>> Right. So anyway, um
usually when we talk about someone who's
dead and even someone who was, you know,
is dead, you know, as a corpse, we use
the word mate. And we have it in a
number of places. But instead of the
word mate, let me read key. The first
three words in Hebrew key.
The third word isal,
not mate.
And you find it at the end of the second
verse where it says we vote
four times in the story or in the law of
the um I'm sorry
they use not mate butalal.
Is there a difference
with between mate and kalal?
Well, the fact that they only use kalal
here and not mate would seem to indicate
there's a specific meaning of kalal
mostly
and indeed it is a kalal
is not simply um someone who's dead or a
corpse. In fact, um
when we go to uh this the paradum
when it talks to paradum
there uh I didn't leave this I do I have
6A maybe um no I don't think I have it
here uh something yeah and um
it there it talks about the paradum is
someone who is something which is after
that ritual. It's ashes and it's mixed
with water and the water is sprinkled on
someone who had been made impure through
uh any type of involvement with a a dead
person. Okay? With a corpse.
And there when we have
oh hell this is the law. If a person
dies in a tent, whoever comes into that
tent and everything in a tent becomes
tame for seven days
and uh every uh utensil that is not
properly covered also
[clears throat] becomes tame.
And then it said the following
[clears throat]
or anyone who touches somewhere in the
fieldalate
whether a mate a corpse oral
one killed by a sword. In other words,
halal would seem to indicate and define
not just a corpse but a murdered corpse.
Which is why here all it says is a
murdered corpse. That's why infa
he only usesalal
it says oh or other types of dead.
Right? And again at the end then says
anyone who touches a corpse or a grave
or a bonesal
or a murdered person. So the Torah now
differentiates between mate and halal.
The mate refers to a corpsees corpse
someone who died whereas kalal refers
almost exclusively by the way to one who
was killed usually in war but it's one
who killed anyway. Um
I would go to also which no reason for
me to do it but you have there in the
para of where
speaks about
of the the blood of a murdered corpseal.
Anyway,
it would seem therefore that the ongoing
usage of the wordal here in Egla
is uh not
coincidental, but it's quite
intentional. Um it means therefore that
if we're trying to figure out what part
of the
what section of
does this go into? Then indeed it would
seem it belongs to the laws of war
because it talks about someone killed in
war, you know, or the it defines kalal
as someone who'd been killed and
therefore
uh
that would be the laws of kalal and of
arufah. Fine. That's not what we're
talking about. We're talking about the
um the um P who's being taken by this
Israelite soldier. This P, right? Um
the the
war
obviously requires killing the enemy.
It's not nice. It's not good. One, one
has to defend himself to kill the enemy
who wants to kill you.
Correct? That's not simply you're
allowed to. You have an obligation not
to allow yourself to simply go around
and getting killed. Israel as a nation
would never have uh survived if all they
did is says, "Okay, we'll let everybody
kill us." When it was strong enough,
they had to. and they were had the
mitzvah, they're obligated to I mean
nowadays everybody says war is okay and
people understand they get get killed
but since Jews are supposed to just die
by themselves you we're not Jews aren't
allowed to kill in war they're only
allowed to die in war but that's not
true the fact is that this is what war
is that's understandable
so what the Torah is saying with this
law of the
aset So it's teaching you listen to me
you
soldier man who has gone to war a man
who had to kill
is telling you soldier
don't bring the values of war that you
had to battle into your house when you
get home. This is so powerfully
important nowadays. Nebaka, how many did
we go through? How many suicides of from
wonderful
Israeli soldiers? It's a horrible thing.
They come back and they can't deal with
it.
And the Torah says, understandable, you
shouldn't you should hopefully deal with
it.
But they're struggling with with that
with that problem. Don't bring these uh
war
act activities behavior.
When you come back home in a time of
peace, when you come back to your
society, this is not acceptable. And
that's why right before this, we learned
about what happens when one person makes
a war with another. They were telling
you in a whether it's in a war or
whatever, you cannot kill somebody else.
Um, you know, soldiers are apt to do
things in war that they should not be
doing when it's not in war. Um, they
they get I think the word I use is
desensitized
and they have to be desensitized.
How often you have stories stories from
World War I. I remember of Jewish of
Jewish soldiers who who are filing on
the who were fighting within the in the
German army who suddenly are shooting at
the enemy in the French army and he
hears the person he's shot. He runs over
to him and here's the person saying the
Israel as he's dying. He he never he
couldn't take it anymore. He couldn't
take it anymore. Th this idea this
concept of war is very difficult and
people in war are have to be
desensitized to kill the enemy lest they
be killed. And what the Torah is saying
here, you can't do that. When you return
from war to a society, you must
desensitize. You must reensitize
yourselves from what you did when you
went into law. And that's why the Torah
here commands a formal public ceremony
with the eggla
to underscore the tragedy of a loss of
life.
And now we come into the fat to
now I've to a certain degree misled you.
Remember earlier I told you that the
grammatically they use the second the
second person um
and the laws of war. And you know the
fact is
if you look at perk
um
where where this story is where it
begins with when you go to um fight
against your enemies and you you know
don't be afraid right because God is
with you so on and so forth. But when
you look in the Hebrew and look
carefully and I believe I don't know I
don't know if you have page the source
number three
um 3A
you could say
>> thank you so much
in 3A and u the till the English tells
us clearly um when you go out right um
when you Go to battle against your
enemies and see horses and chariots,
forces larger than yours. Have no fear
and for Hashem who brought you out of
Egypt is with you and before you could
battle the Cohen shall go forward and
address the troops and says, "Listen, O
Israel, you're about to join so on and
so forth." That's what it says over
there. But again talking about grammatic
grammar you have and virita and you see
um a a the army of your enemy that's
very big and they're greater greater
than you don't you be afraid because God
is with you. All of is a second
uh person. Correct? You you you but as
you know in English you is not only a
singular thing
>> it's plural.
>> It's a plural thing. So when it says
over here if you are going to war and
you see who is it referring to?
>> Everybody.
>> Everybody. All of Israel. That's
correct. 100% correct. So that's this is
true also even though it's in second
person. This is found in all the other
laws.
If you are going to um lay
thing around again the same story, the
same word
um um again around a city, you must call
for a first a treaty. Not a treaty, but
peace. You know, if you allow us to come
in and you pay us taxes and we want and
who was you again here again? It's the
entire army we're talking to. Um, if you
go and uh and Tatsur
again the city do not destroy a uh tree.
Again, it's not the individual. We're
talking about the people in the army.
The people in the army.
Um so
that is true also
in the army and and the world war the
laws of the wars and battle. The second
person refers to the nation the army
itself
and the exception to that rule is the
law we have been discussing.
If you see a woman a P and you want to
run here, it's not talking about the
entire nation. God's talking to the
individual here. this ata, you know,
where it says here that uh um
that
you see among the
the um PS the prisoners
and you and you yearn for her
and you can't take her. This is all the
individual. The Torah is now talking in
a singular second person and not in the
plural. And so although the laws of the
asetto use the the second you know the
person
uh you know sale when if you're going
out to war starts that for the entire
was for the entire army but over here
you can't call it the laws of war
because it's not talking to the whole
army. This part of the war is talking to
the individual.
So although the law of fat is closely
connected to the laws of war
um then you know
this now is not during the war. This is
what's happening post battle
after when you have now prisoners and
you want them. It isn't during a war
itself. Um,
it's more connected not to war, but that
after the war, meaning when after you
leave the army and you're going back to
your society and your family
and your community,
when you're returning and you want to
take this P as a wife, you want to take
her as another wife. Remember, you can
have more than one. You want that?
We have to argue and I think powerfully
that this is not a law of a section of
war but of family
of society
and that's
something that at first glance we don't
seem to be that because what rashi says
and the says and things like that seem
to indicate this is how you have to do
when you have a war what's you know but
when you go down very carefully of the
laws and all of the words used for those
laws. Note the first thing when you go
back to civilian life,
the Torah tells you,
you want to bring this woman, you bring
her to your house. You don't put her
someplace in a a a in a a barn or in a
prison. You want to have her as a wife,
you must take her into your house. And
then uh that's where you live and that's
when she will live also. That's where
your family might be living and that's
where she will become part of that
family. That's number one. It says
she will dwell in your house. These are
not laws of war. These are laws of
society and of family. What do you do?
The term by the way,
you know,
does not mean he sat there and it
doesn't even mean he he was he lived
there. It means he really dwelt there
for a while. It means somewhere that you
stay. He you she must remain in your
house. Um so what's the Torah doing here
with these laws?
The Torah is simply taking the soldier
out of war and bringing him back to the
family.
And the fact that the Torah interrupts
the dil
the laws of the war they interrupted
with the eggla where it's just an
individual murdering another individual
indicates that now the Torah isn't
really focusing only on the whole war
thing
but it's on post battle behavior.
And that's what's happening.
Just like who is going to kill one
another. It's very possible though you
come back from a being in the army where
you'll be killing everybody. You may
come and murder someone else even though
it's not a war. That's why we have to
make sure you stop that. And then it
says speaking of postwar problems
there's the there's also the asetto
the p that you want. how you must behave
with her, what you must do for her. And
um
certainly it was true and clearly there
is a connection to having the P and the
laws of war but um it's also perhaps
primarily laws of family of normal
family existence. Okay. Because we are
created in the image of Hashem. You can
be a very good person, but if you do
something when you're in another
situation where it seems to be you got a
yahara, you have to remember that Hashem
wants you to behave the same way when
you're there as when you're at home and
which is very applicable today when
people at home are in a you know they're
on the yasha they go someplace. Oh,
nobody's going to see me. I can do this
that you can't do that. you expanded
what we said, but I think it's very
true. You're correct. Here it's saying
the danger is the assumption is you're a
good guy and you're good wherever you
are, but within war you may not be. But
you're right. There are other things
that might have somebody feel that okay,
I can do this because now it isn't
ABCDE. You are correct. So over here um
we go back to what the original thing
that Kazal said and I don't know if you
recall what Rashi brings and the Garra
brings that the only reason that God
allowed or set up these laws of the
it says
which we usually define as
um
that the Torah
was talking against
the Yates and it says later on Rashi
pointed out because God knows that if he
doesn't give you some way to marry that
you'll marry her anyway and it'll be
terrible so we'll we'll give in to the
Sahara and as I'm going to show you well
go that's not true um because when you
look about it the demands that they make
here. Not so much on the
soldier, but on the woman, right? She
must shave her hair. She has to grow.
She has to grow her fingernails. She has
to remove her prisoner's garb
and simlim.
She has to stay in his house. She has to
cry for the loss of her parents for a
month. Only then may he marry her. So
Rashi sees these requirements as an
attempt to make her as unra
attractive as she could be. So the guy
won't go through the wedding. You know,
he won't indeed marry her and he let him
have a second thoughts. And after 30
days and she's uh bald and has long
fingernails and not very nice uh you
know clothing um she's in her worst
state put simply right and um
that logic Rashi would say is simple
since he only wanted to pick up this
woman he didn't say cuz she he sat down
with her at a sheer and she was so smart
he decides he wants to marry her. He saw
he saw this woman and it was only a
physical attraction and therefore
says the Torah is trying to remove that
physicality from her. So you'll have a
second thought about whether you really
want to go ahead and marry the person
and and it's not Rashi's opinion
says that very clearly. Um and uh that's
why maybe the says
indeed at the end of this law it says
and if you do not want to have her and
you sent her out this is what you have
to do right. So
it's a law that ends with what what
happens when you want to get rid of her.
So clearly the Torah is seemingly
hinting that we want you to get rid of
her and that's perhaps why Rabak and
then Rashi quotes that says you were
trying to fight your
letting you take her but you got to do
all these things so maybe you won't take
her after all that's what it is um and
however there are different things okay
the different approaches to
um that all of these things you're told
to do by the Torah to this woman is not
to make her unattractive. In fact, um
both the Rambam and the Ramban explain
the laws completely opposite. Um,
but it says you should shave her head.
It doesn't mean like it was for the
Levium when before they were um made in
Levim. Uh, not to shave her head, give
her a haircut. She should look good. And
um
all of the steps that she's told to do
are steps to make her feel more
attractive and more comfortable in her
new environment, her new nation, her new
religion, her new family, says Ramban.
This is why we're doing these good
things. not to make her ugly but to make
her more to adapt to her new life and
feel less than a stranger. Um I wrote
down the
in the
um
talks about the restraint in war and
restraint after war as well. But um
when we look at it
detail for detail and you'll find this
very very interesting a totally
different approach um to what we've
learned. But the Ramban says very good
that um
these laws were not to make her look
unattractive
but rather to make her look attractive
and make her a part of the family. If
you're taking her, you must now treat
her as yours and as you would any member
of the family. And the proof of that, by
the way, is the very ending. The ending
says if in the end you want to get rid
of her,
you cannot sell her as if she were a a
slave,
a maid
in on the slave block. You're not
allowed to do that. You can't sell her.
Rather, you let her go free as a free
person.
The fact that it says that indicates
that the Torah is not trying to make her
look terrible and get rid of her, but
rather to make her comfortable and part
of the nation. It's a wonderful concept
for gaim how we take um you know gay
those who are conversant convert to
Israel.
Converts, converts must be treated in
this such a way. Make them part of you,
part of your family. Now when you look
at this view when you take what the
Rambam said
that it is not as said that we're trying
to um hold back your your your
should but rather to educate you.
It's not to let you give into your
but you are to fight that. Never do this
there. It's against
does not mean to let you go go in but
it's against
the to make sure that your just won't do
this and it does that not because it
makes her un ugly but rather to see her
as a person as an individual and that's
what you know I have here in the moral
or it says uh but
that approach approach helps us uh shall
I say sit more comfortably with a law
that at first glance seems to be a very
shrug of the shoulders. Well, if you got
to do this, I guess you could do it, but
you got to do it this way. But saying if
you're doing that, good, but you have to
take her in like a person. Don't treat
her like a slave. Once they that you've
taken her,
then you must treat her like an isha.
And that's what we're seeing here about
all of the laws. When you when laws of
war, when you you must offer an enemy
peace terms before you lay siege. I
found the word siege to a a city. Um,
when you're laying seeds to a to a city,
do not destroy
fruit trees. Um, and here too, don't
allow the culture of war, of murder, of
violence
to seep into our
society.
That is the basic idea of what this is
all about. Restraint and proper
treatment of a P.
Even the required requirement to shave
her hair is explained as a way of making
her look better. Um and uh
it's also even if you don't want to put
it that way, do you know who has to
shave his head completely?
You have a Nazir at the conclusion of
his nizzy uh time. He does that to
return to his society because a Nazir is
out of the society for 30 days. He comes
back. He shaves his head. uh a mitsora,
right? A leper has to shave his or her
hair on the conclusion of her or his
time of uh impurity because only then
he's been out of the mah and now he
returns to society. Levim, as I pointed
out before, the Levites had to shave
shave their hair when they entered into
the service of Mishan, into that new
world of them. So the symbolism of
having her
shave her head is not a matter of making
her ugly because as these other people
who must shave the head, it's a matter
of they're beginning like an infant
who's usually bald.
H who now is beginning again now
entering society for the first time.
That looking at that concept that you
shave the head because she is now
returning. She's now entering a society
she had not been in
makes the laws so much more logical and
also so much more sensitive to this
woman.
And that's what it is, reborning. So
there you have it. It fits in and
connects yes to the laws of war. But
this is better if we say it's part of
the laws of war
and postwar.
And why? Because the next laws, as I
mentioned last time, right after this
talks about when one has has married two
wives but finds one better than the
other and what law he cannot give the
and and the one he less
prefers has the elder son, he must give
the bakor to her that that son anyway.
And after that the um rebellious son. In
other words, right after this are all
the laws of family. So here what's a
bridge. It's a bridge between war and
family and society. And how brilliant is
it the Torah has given us here the
understanding of moving moving from a
very uh violent place to now into back
to the family. There's a bridge for
that. There are things you have to again
soften on whether it's bea be being be
careful with trees whether it is ask for
peace right all these things is part to
say yes there is a war but there's
something good and nice and proper about
it a proper way to deal with that and
that's what this is so that's where I
wanted to keep I'm glad we finished that
part um so I do hope that this really
made things better, more understandable
for you. And were you able to see the um
the reasoning behind
this the
asetto
because
means
that it fights against
the you know usual um
Yateshara as we call it right. Um, it's
legislating against the Torah is
legislating against the Yates
that by the way the expression of KGA
the Yates has to do with the three other
things and I'm not going to go into the
the three things but each and every one
of them and four things actually and
each of them was be combating fighting
against the natural inclination that you
have. You have a natural inclination to
do this. No, don't do that. You know,
it's a natural inclination. We are told,
you know, you you're a farmer. You
finally after three years have gotten
your fruit. There's a law of orai.
You're not you're not allowed to take it
the first three years. You have to wait
till the fourth year and then bring that
to you. So, you have to wait almost 5
years to be able to en enjoy your
fruits. Says the Torah that you can't
tell us. You're fighting the Yates.
I mean, it's against you. Don't use your
Yates. Says I have to write to it. It's
my field. I've been working so long.
This fruit is mine. He says, "No, no,
no, no, no. It's against the in the same
way. And I'm not going to go through the
other three, but that this it's against
the so that you don't do these things."
So, let's do that. And we'll keep it
that way. And we're going to start and a
god please god next time a very holy
completely different
uh
s uh I say book
we're going to uh close varim and do the
next book the book of Yahosua and hashem
going to start with the introduction to
safer Yoshua and Yoshua himself and then
we'll be able to go in some of the fasc
fascinating things in Sri Yoshua. I wish
you all a Shabbat. Shalom.