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Parshat Vayishlach: Who Are These Children to You? By Rabbi James Kennard
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every body this week's para is V and we
have the momentous meeting of yov and
asov and we have in number one the
following he lifted up his eyes that's
as and he saw now nashim can be
translated as women or
wives and the children so he sees
yov and he said me a
who are these to you so we'll come back
with a better explanation better
translation of that later for and he
said yob
replied the children whom Hashem has and
Kanan we're going to translate but
somebody we've given or favored your
servant I.E me yov so his question asked
by asov is me a Who these to you and the
answer given by yov
is the children whom Hashem has
something to do with given to your
servant so there are two particular
maybe three questions on which I want to
focus uh the second one is going to be
what's the meaning of the word Kanan uh
why didn't yov say Natan given so what's
the meaning of the word kanam um perhaps
the third is what what's really y Asa
question um but the second well actually
the first I'm going to get to is Yakov
only gives half an answer because as
sees
the and he
says presumably referring to the nashim
and the yadim and yakov's answer isim he
answers about the children he doesn't
answer about the wives and this focuses
the minds of some of
him and I think I'll go straight to
number three ran
says Etc he asked just as I said this is
where I got the question from not from
me but from the ran and others asov
asked about the women and the children
and yov
answered and he answered that and the
ramban is highlighting the fact he
didn't mention the wives in his answer
and he says this is
Der this is an appropriate way to
behave because he did not want to say to
as that these four women were his
wives and as will work out that they are
the mothers of the
children okay so why didn't he want to
say about the wives well leave that for
a moment because we're going to see
others who will answer that um so I'm
sorry we're we're going to draw the
Freds together one by one why he didn't
want to mention that they are the wives
we will come to um a couple of
suggestions as to why that should be but
the last words of the
ran will realize that they are the
mothers of the children at this point
I'm going to ask people to make sure
their phones are put on silence so we
don't have a disturbance
um I think I'll just jump to I'll go out
of order a little bit and go to number
five to Rav hush um RAV hush is 700
years after the ramban in number three
whom we just read and yet his answer his
explanation is totally complimentary to
the
ramban okay for everyone could check
their bags and their pockets and make
sure their phones are on silent okay
ravers number five
says yov answers these are the children
whom Hashem has
given only mentioned the
children but his answer also relates to
the question about the
women how we will come to in just a
moment ROV Yakov hints but do not with
great
sensitivity to give thanks doubled he
has two things to give thanks for
who he's thankful he's merited the great
wealth that's in his
hands both in physical matters and in
spiritual
matters he acknowledges he thanks the
kindness of Hashem
and he also thanks or acknowledges his
wives and then the r says gab as far as
he is
concerned the women are the mothers of
his children now raush is speaking
actually pretty much as far as I can see
the same as the ramban he's just 700
years later and he's writing in German
which is translated into Hebrew here and
I think what he means is when he says
Yim as opposed to Bim the word yadim
means people who are born and Who Bore
them the mothers so by saying yadim he's
alluding to the role of the women I.E
who be bore the children and says rers
he's thanking Hashem by saying the words
um
elim elim and he's thanking the wives by
saying the word which alludes to the
fact that these wives bore him the
children okay one more time
okay so ravers disagrees with you ravers
thinks he's not ignoring them he's
delicately alluding to them okay you
don't like that answer
yes a very quick
one okay so one of the answers we're
going to
is that he doesn't trust asov and he
doesn't trust aso's intentions um but we
can't say that the women were in hiding
because we have the explicit P
theob sorry asov lifted up his eyes and
he saw the women so they can't be in
hiding there's a story that there's a
mid that Dina was hidden um and it
reminds us of a story that Sara was
hidden and but but here you can't say
they were hidden but you could say
perhaps and I don't want to preempt what
we're going to read but the reason he
doesn't want to mention the wives is he
doesn't want asov to get ideas about
them
but but that's not what the ramban and
rers who I think are saying the same
thing are
saying ramban going back to number three
the second the last few
words sorry asov would understand that
they are the mothers of the children now
the ramban doesn't give any more words
so it's up to us to struggle to
understand the ramban and I think what
the ramban means is by calling them Yim
it's alluding to the women who gave
birth to to them okay not totally
satisfactory but that's what I think the
ramban is and rers are
saying well he doesn't use the word Bim
that's my point he used the word Yim
which literally means people who were
born that's what a is from
noad are children and are wom but I
think the word because the word yed
literally means those who are born from
NAD I think that's why he chooses that
word I think at least that's what the
ramban and R are saying let me move on
um I'm going to have to be a little bit
more ruthless about accepting and not
accepting questions I love the
interaction but uh I think we also need
to make sure we we move forward let's
see number four R Abraham Ben Haram so
the rambam was the rambam and the rambam
had a son called Abraham H and I've
often heard it said that if Abraham were
not the son of the rambam he'd be very
much known as a Rishon in his own right
because he certainly was but he's known
as the son of the rambam because that
was his illustrious father so the ra
Abraham Ben Ram says in number
four
that's so our question Yakov answered
about the children but he missed out an
answer about the
women even though the question was about
everyone asov lifts up his eyes asov
sees the women and the children and asks
who are these referring to the women and
the children and the benam here in
number four is spelling out our question
uh that Yakov doesn't answer the second
half of as's question and he
says second line it's for two
reasons one is embarrassment about
mentioning his relationship with the
women and the second reason
is when he mentions the relationship of
the
Y that they are his
children
then will work out the the these are the
children using the word yeled and I
think again that's
significant no but the that that's
that's the benav benar Ram's translation
the original word is yeled which means
bav but I think it's significant but he
doesn't use the word bav he uses the
word yadim so Yakov will say these are
my yadim and then asov will work out but
these women must be the mothers of the
ym and it must be the wives okay let's
jump to number seven which will answer
the question that people are wondering
why doesn't he mention the wives so
number seven
the actually we can start with number
six we'll give one answer there and
we'll give another answer in number
seven in number six
the
says Etc the answer is these children
whom you see they are the ones whom
Hashem has given
me and he didn't say just answer your
question is these are the ones who
sorry who asov says who are they and
Yakov could have said to save words
Hashem has favored me with these
children but he doesn't he says these
are the children which Hashem has
favored me with so actually no I'm
saying it wrong sorry he could have said
the question is who are these and yakob
could have answered Hashem has favored
me with them but he doesn't he
said that's the point that is making and
the end of line one of number six
he doesn't want to he wants to disabuse
ASA of the notion that the women are
also his children
shov because they weren't so old we
don't know exactly their age but we can
see from various indications in this
paraa that they are much younger than
Yakov so asov might have thought that
they were his CH his daughters the his
to kahem and then asov would have lifted
up his eyes to gaze at them and I think
the implication is not in a wholesome
manner maybe he'll want to marry them
for
himself but when yob used the
word so they're all saying and I can
hear I can hear a little bit of
resistance here and I can see a bit of
resistance here nobody seems to like
this
idea that I think is born out by many of
our commentators that Yakov is alluding
to the fact that they are in wives
without mentioning specifically But Here
Comes the abarbanel and this will give
an answer you might not like the answer
but it will give an answer to what's
going on here number seven
says behold asked about the women and
the
children and he says he says who are
they to you
he sorry as sees this large group of
people can I it's a big family and he
thinks some of them are his wives some
of them are his sons some of them are uh
other female relatives uh and so from
the gathering around
them Yakov doesn't mention the women in
his answer so this is taking a more
literal approach um unlike the attempts
we've seen to say that he's sort of
subtly including the women the Abel says
he doesn't mention the women by the way
sorry the first line was to spell out
what's the question the question is who
are all these people that's the Abel's
understanding of the question of asov
who are all these people are they your
relatives are they your sisters are they
your daughters are Etc anyway Yakov
doesn't want to mention the women in his
answer end of line two
but he just wants to mention the
children
alone the not mentioning the wives was
to cover the embarrassment of Yakov why
was Yakov
embarrassed to say that he has four
wives that's embarrassing pen I love
asov maybe if he mentions I've got four
wives asov will make fun of him for your
and he will
say I'm sorry we haven't got any more
we've run out of sheets I'm sorry if you
can share with somebody
else oh okay there are sheets
here thank you uh sorry we just lost the
thread there um he's worried that asov
will make fun of him middle of line four
but Y and he will will say
who you you claim to be the great sad
you who live your life according to fear
of
God you're not satisfied with one wife
or
two an as behold I as harha I'm the
wicked
one if you look at the end of the para
we have the whole of of asov we know he
only had three wives so yov is
embarrassed to say I've got a more wives
which implies I need more wives than you
do with only three continuing the
imagined words of asov End of Line five
I asov only got three wives
for and you've got more than
that and because of this concern yov
only answered his question about the
children and then asov could conclude
that of these four women some of them
are wives and some of them are wet
nurses who are there to help with the
child rearing and so Yakov doesn't want
to spell out he's got four wives so that
is an answer maybe it's more
satisfactory than some of the other
answers the ababel meets head off on the
fact that Yakov doesn't mention the
wives at all doesn't allude to them and
the reason is because there's four wives
and four wives Yakov thinks of himself
might be seen as a bit excessive bit
over the top especially to asov asov Har
Russia who's got who manages with three
wives and that according to Abell is why
he doesn't mention
itel yeah I I think yeah I don't know if
asov would call himself a Rasha but I
think he's adding the uh little bit of
color there you're the sadic I'm the
Russia um certainly I think asov might
have said you're supposed to be the more
faithful one and I'm supposed to be the
wild the one who got passed over for the
blessings something like that but the
barel puts it in a bit of a Starker
phraseology he had two wives well he
didn't have four W yeah okay and was he
not accustomed to have
whatever you them
well okay so first of all your right
sometimes they are referred by kazal as
four wives sometimes they're four two
wives and two concubines but they were
all the they were no but they're all
mothers of his children mothers of his
children and they're all people with
whom he had relations okay I think
that's the point and whereas asov
apparently at least he only marries
three he only like formalizes three many
yeah okay so the answer the answer to
the question of why not mention the
wives is the Abel's answer that he was
embarrassed to admit he had four wives
because he thinks it doesn't look quite
right the right behavior for a study
just by the way I'll just throw out this
before it was forbidden about the year
1000 by RAB n gersam polygamy was
allowed but what's remarkable to me is
how few instances we see of polygamy in
the Tanakh it clearly is not the Norm
it's not the norm even though it was
lowed it wasn't the norm and after the
tanak in the m and the gumar it's
clearly not the norm so I think for
Yakov to say I've got four wives we can
understand I can understand the barell
thinking that Yakov would think it's a
bit over the top yes no
yes afraid of and trying to take a lower
position
do just I think you're right and thank
you and the context of this the trouble
of picking out one pos even though I
like to focus keenly on on on one par or
one instance is we do need the context
as well and the context clearly is he is
bowing down literally to asov seven
times we're told he's very much trying
to appease asov trying not to give asov
any excuse to get angry so I think
you're right this very much fits in this
AB barell fits in with that context but
he's trying to downplay anything that
would give asov any excuse to make a
fuss
yes I think it's it's not L as in
feminite it's the pausal form because
it's the end of the Clause so it's not
it's l it's a funny rule of Biblical
Hebrew yes
you're right it's not quite the words of
the barell but you're right it was a
complicated family setup as we know he
only really wanted one wife called Rael
and he gets another wife called Le then
they bill her and Zila come in so it's
complicated yes that's that's not
complicated okay let's let's move on a
little bit to the question of uh well
we're allude to the question of what's
being asked but the use of the word
Kanan and for the next part of the show
I want to focus on
y's answer elim sorry
sorry what is this so the sorry the Ezra
in number eight the izra starts off on
the words me we'll just read
that IM who are these people with you or
me
sh um I'll come back to that bit later I
think what the about what is saying with
that second suggestion I think it
deserves a look at later on but the
first thing he says is the
words the problem with the words is it
doesn't quite make sense what these to
you what what's the question going on
there so the first answer of the izra is
me a im who are these people with you
who's this crowd okay let's go into the
second line number
eight says the
Ezra it's equival to Natan Natan means
he gave and Kanan says the izra is
equivalent to he gave and he gives other
examples of how we see it used in a
similar
sense now that's AAS from the end of
shim just after there's been a war
between shamim and the rest of the Kalel
and then there's a Reconciliation and
then chevet bamin um need to have wives
and and they sort of they they complain
um it's actually in the negative in the
full quote you haven't given them to us
or but when then the Ezra says there's
also an idea of what does mean and he
quotes the where laan says to yov you
shouldn't have to work for me for free
so the word Kanan says izra has
connotations of giving but it also means
giving for free and let's expand that
idea a little bit in number nine so back
to the Abraham benam whom we saw quoted
earlier in number four on on the first
question now it's the same benam on the
second question what's meant by the
wordan so he
says the statement of
yov why does he use that phrase
he understood he believed that they are
a gift from God um he's right by the way
um at this point I want to say you every
Jewish mother thinks their child is a
gift from God or every Jewish young man
usually thinks they're a gift from God
they're actually right they're actually
right they are a gift from God that's
what children are and says the benh
harambam yob uses the word Kanan to give
but give perhaps graciously or maybe
even give for free like the
word because yov believed that they
are they are a present from
himem and a gift for
free because of's humility he didn't
want to suggest in his own soul Shah
that he is fitting for this gift from
God the word means not just giving but
giving to somebody who doesn't deserve
it as my father has explained Bor in the
guide in the book the guide for the
perplex which we'll see in just in a
moment so where as the IB Ezra in number
eight said Kanan is the same as
Natan I think you can allow perhaps it's
not exactly the same even in the ib's
mind but he says straight off
Kanan the benam says that's not really
what Kanan means or it's not the whole
story of what Kanan means Kanan is a
word that means giving something to
somebody who does not deserve it or a
mat a present for free mat is a
something that is given from Natan but
is a present for free a present for
somebody who does not deserve it so
Yakov says these are the
children
elim not that Hashem is given but Hashem
is given to me who does not deserve it
and rakov even though we presume he did
deserve it because he's Yakov aino in
his modesty in his humility regarded
himself or described himself as somebody
who does not deserve it yes today is a
part that they give to a prisoner called
and it's not deserved by definition yeah
yeah y now um the benam does from time
to time refer to his father and says go
and look at my father's book and you can
see what he's written there so let's do
that he says my father has described
this word Kanan in this form and he's
described it in the guide for the
perplexed uh Section 1 chapter 54 which
we have here in number 10 and so the Ram
himself now by the way this is a
translation from the Arabic as is as is
the benam so um there are there are
various ways of translating it and this
is one version and he says in number
10 um when you give something to a
person who has no claim on us in the
sense of
right that's called in our
language means giving something to
somebody who does not deserve it kha and
now he quotes the same POS from shtim
that we saw quoted earlier by the ibra
the
words and another example is
our exactly our words and another
example is the POS that comes a few Pim
later which we'll look at in a
moment we'll come back to that
one and there are many examples like
this
see Hashem creates and guides somebody
who has no claim on
him to be created or to be
guided and that is called kanun so kanun
says the rambam and the son of the
rambam say kanun is something it's not
just the same as giving it's giving to
someone who does not deserve it giving
for free and in a minute we'll have an
example from our um which we might
recognize that might guide us in in what
we're govering for but let's see the
words of or the Torah referring to what
Moshe did in number
11 so that is the opening words of the
par and mosha is recalling how he mosha
implored let's leave it as that for a
moment Hashem to allow him to enter erit
Israel because it had been decreed that
can't enter Isel and when mosha
describes his own role he
says
I what does mean let's look at Rashi
number 12 turn over the
page says Rashi there's no in every
place take out a double negative to make
it sound better English in every place
means a a gift for free a gift which is
undeserved and then he
says even though sikim could make
their claim thank you based on their
Good
Deeds they only request from Hashem
something given for free which is not
deserved so Moshe rabenu certainly could
have said to Hashem listen I've got lots
of merits I really deserve what I'm
asking for I'm asking to get into ER
Israel and you should give it to me but
he doesn't say that
for mosha describes his nature of his
plea asan I was asking for something
which I don't deserve I was asking for
because sikim do not come and claim that
they have enough rights to what they're
asking for sikim on the contrary say we
don't deserve anything but rather uh by
using the wordan which means mat mosha
was saying that he was asking for
something he didn't
deserve okay let's get a little bit more
Technical and see an interesting comment
of unus so unus translates our posk in
number 13 and just look at the end of
the
pem just the end of number 13 Sons
children which obviously is the Aramaic
translation of
Kanan for which Hashem has Kanan given
to your servant now a few Pim later in
our parha Yakov and asov discuss the
present that Yakov is giving to
asov and uh it's a collection of vast
numbers of animals which are listed
earlier in the peric and asov says look
I don't need it um I've got lots of
animals myself um then yob replies in
number
14 please
my my
present which has been brought to
you because Hashem
has and I have everything just by the
way since I've read the P it's famous
that yov says yes call and asov says yes
and they're very different someone who
says I've got everything doesn't want
anymore somebody says I've got a lot
usually wants much more than what
they've already
got just to finish the pass yov implored
asov and asov took it but what's
interesting from our point of view is we
have the word in the middle Hashem has
given me favored me something like that
and look at the Tas on that par in
number 15 um and just in the middle of
the line just we don't need to get stuck
in all the Arab just in the middle of
the line
AR Hashem Hashem has what's raahim Mercy
Hashem has been merciful to me same word
in in Hebrew but uncus translates in two
different ways into Aramaic in our about
the children uncus uses the word KH
directly related to
Ouran and in the second p in number 14
about the
animals uses the word Kan but the unas
translates the word raahim has been
merciful to me so I saw a suggestion
that when Hashem gives something for
free that's Kanan in Aramaic but when
Hashem
just generally benefit somebody and with
the animals where did all the animals
come from the animals came from yakov's
wealth and yakov's wealth came from all
his business with the speckled and
spotted uh sheep um in last week's
para and that was Hashem generally not
giving yakob something for free but ra
Al giving him Mercy helping him with his
Endeavors in a more General sense and if
you look carefully at the various pum
that contain this word Kanan and how
unus translates it it seems that there's
two types of Kanan there's Kanan which
is
hashem's hasem helping generally
somebody to prosper and there's Kanan
which is a which is a gift for free
which is not just part of hashem's
General help but is a specific gift for
free and that's the one that unas
translates Asam okay let's move on to
number 16 yes please
yeah as opposed to
Elohim yeah I think uncas doesn't
distinguish um and the Y is probably is
not necessarily UNC the answer is I'm
not quite sure Y is not necessarily
uncus his own words yud is is is like a
kinu for Hashem it might have been put
in by a subsequent scribe so I'm not
sure but thank you for the question okay
number 16 ra Herz visel now T Herz visel
is an interesting character I'll just
give a little bit of biography um 18th
century Germany um he was a muscul um
part of the
Enlightenment um which is often
considered sort of the enemy of Torah
true Jews and indeed most cases it was
but raali visel was an example of a
muscal who was from he was
um interested in wider uh learning uh he
did advocate for the inclusion of
secular studies into the Jewish school
curriculum um and like many musum he was
into Hebrew grammar and precise readings
of Hebrew words which we will see now
here in number 16 um for the full
disclosure he he produced four major
pamphlets in his life and the last one
was about Jewish Education and he was
very strong on the involvement in
secular studies uh perhaps more than
might be acceptable um and in that
respect perhaps he didn't quite tow the
line in the last years of his life but
he wrote a perish on the Kish which is
quoted by others um and is valuable and
you'll see in number 16 how he
integrates his precise analysis of
Hebrew grammar and structure and syntax
with a explanation of what yob is saying
here so in number 16 he says
quoting
[Applause]
the if the question had been are they
your children or are they your members
of your household I.E servants then yako
could have just answered baiim they are
my children just by the way um I missed
out theun in number two because I
thought it wasn't all that exciting but
theun suggest yes that is indeed's
question let's look at it now since I
referred to it in number
two
or exactly the question that the is
referring to and and saying is not the
right question according to
theun asov is asking what is the role of
these young people are they your natural
children are are they your servants and
that fits well with yakov's answer they
are the children whom Hashem has
gracious ly given me but if we go back
to the number 16 um tell a long bit of a
schlep to say that every time but he
doesn't really have an acronym um if
that had been the question are these
children your children or your servants
then Yakov could have just answered
benim they are my children now there is
a precedent that actually comes after
but there's another example in thees
where a somebody asks who are these to
you and and ysep is the one who's asked
who are these two children whom you uh
have brought out they weren't Children
of the time but they were descendants of
ysep Y answered to his father B they are
my
children and Yakov could have answered
Bim but he didn't because there was a
deeper meaning to the question End of
Line
two according to our
explanation as wasn't asking who they
are but was asking about their nature so
this is the big um and you'll see a new
interpretation of the word Kanan coming
from
naaliel yov as's question is tell me
about these children what's their nature
what's their
behavior because that was the question
what's the nature of these children it
was good for yov to answer in full the
children whom hasem has who has given
given graciously given for free at to
your
servant now here comes a new
interpretation of or a revised
interpretation middle of line end of
line
three it is a good let's just leave it
untranslated for a minute
a great of Hashem that Hashem gave me
children like these yob here is being a
Jewish parent and he's saying I don't
just have children I have wonderful
children and that is Aina let me just
finish this I'll come back to you that's
Aina that's a I'm going to translate
that as a great gift maybe there a
better translation but I think visel is
pointing us to the idea
that is the noun for giving is a great
gift it's not just a gift it's a super
gift because I have children like these
line
four they're good they're
intelligent everything I want is in
them and that's why he used the
word as says Hashem has favored me like
your kindness
because what Y what David was asking for
in that P is the the the great gift of
settled mind and happiness of the
heart to release to save y sorry David
from the uh sadness of his heart because
of his sin a pause there so what is
saying the question was what sort of
children are these are they good are
they not good are they super good um I
spent a long time as a school principal
I never met a parent who did not think
their children were
wonderful sometimes parents would say I
know he's not an
angel which meant but he's a SF or some
other Celestial
being but he's mashiah anyway so that's
the question that asov is asking his
brother Yakov tell me about your
children and yakob says they're super
and you know what me what how I sum up
they're super hash has Hashem has given
me such great children it's a great gift
your
question that they were birthed by these
women that b would have been much more
personal they're my children so
although but that's what he wanted to
say why didn't say
well maybe at this point I will defend
the ramban and the ravers who got a bit
of a pummeling before that Yakov does
want to allude to the role of the women
that well maybe maybe he could say they
are not just mine but they also are a
function of the women Who Bore them and
maybe their greatness and their their
wonderfulness is partly due to their
mothers and that's why he uses the word
yellow maybe
yes
Rel I think this response way
bringing to emphasize
that keep God's on my side God's on my
side he give me such great
children okay interesting
interesting okay just for those who
didn't hear the suggestion is to
contextualize yov is saying to asov
don't mess with me and don't mess with
me because Hashem has given me great
great children to show that hashem's on
my side okay um let's just finish off
with number 16 because I pause
deliberately um End of Line five last
word
Adam
um and kazal instituted when they
formulated the words of the Shon
straight after we've thanked Hashem or
acknowledged hashem's greatness we hit
the requests in the middle of the amida
and the first words of the requests
are so based on what we saw before we
got to number
16 means you have given for free
knowledge to man uh and we should use it
in the best possible way by learning
learning Torah says in in the eyes of
what we're learning here in number 16
raali Herz it's more than
that you've given not just a present for
free you've given an amazing present
you've given us Dart you've given us
intelligence and the ability to learn
what could be a greater gift than that
and the implication therefore of course
is we should use that gift and go out
and learn and then he says line six
middle line six
and he's alluding that these children
are the ones that hasem has given
favorably the a in other words that's
the answer to your question asov you're
asking tell me about these children I
can sum up how great these children are
they are a from Hashem they are a
present from Hashem but more than just a
present they are a super present they're
first class and they're really really
good children and then he says end of
line six for Parish the re abrah benra
we don't need the explanation of the
izra as you remember Ian Ezra said as is
izra style don't get too complicated the
word Kanan is equivalent to the word
Natan sesra no it is
not the full statement of ysep when on
close to yakov's deathbed not quite but
close when yov wants to bless ysf and
ysf brings manasha and Ephraim and Yakov
says mysteriously who are they and
presumably yob would have known that so
we need to find a deeper meaning for the
question um but y y replies B elim he
doesn't use the word Yim and he doesn't
use the word Kanan he uses the word
Natan and I think what's going on here
is the Ezra as is his style will say it
says Kanan here it says Natan here don't
get too excited about it the Torah
speaks in the language of man sometimes
people use the word Kanan sometimes
people use the word Natan what we're
seeing here in raali Herz is a rejection
of that if there's two different words
in the similar context then there must
be two different meanings if ysf can say
Natan and Yakov chooses not to say Natan
but he says Kanan it must be a
difference there must be a different
meaning and that's the meaning we've
explained nanas means to give Kanan
means to give for free but according to
what we're seeing here he gives more
than give for free it's a super gift a
very high level gift and it's a gift of
children not just any old children but
really special children so what's the
in okay so I'd have to go back and then
check what natal Herzel says about that
Natan but the based on what I've seen so
far and this is not a complete picture
and I haven't done that homework um yov
ysv is not saying there special they're
saying they're yeah
ordinary
okay indeed indeed okay we'll have to
leave that if I'm giving
a rather I'll come back to
that correct correct okay so that
doesn't really work so we'll have to
we'd have to to to come back on that one
okay number 17 is a bit of a different
style number 17 is a midrashic approach
and I haven't got a deep explanation for
it but it's rather interesting and as
say very different and I'm happy to
share it the which is really a
compilation of of mid it's a bit late to
be called a mid itself but quotes the
following why did yov use this
expression or the noun
form because the the word or a
equivalent form is in the very middle
of which has 15
words Etc if you count all the words
you'll get to 15 and the middle word
number eight with seven before and seven
after is the word
um there's seven words before and seven
words
after and is in the middle and if you
don't believe me here is the
out
then and
then is and you should favor him Hashem
should shine his face on you and you
give you or give you and seven words
after so we have seven and then the
crucial middle word and seven after what
does seven and seven relate to middle of
line
three laan so seven before and seven
after alludes to the seven the 14 years
that Yakov worked in the house of Lavan
and we know the first seven years were
for Leah and the second seven years were
for Rael or maybe it should have been
the other way around but that's how it
went out so we have two distinct groups
of seven and we have one word in the
middle of B which is so that's why it's
a special word to use because it alludes
to the seven before and the Seven
after and that's why yov used oh sorry
the uses the word noov uses the
word and there's another point when
Yakov said this um when Yakov made this
announcement to asov he had 11 children
the last one had not yet been born so
every one of those 11 children Dina is
also there but hidden according to the
midash everyone of those those children
gets the BR of Kanan however was one who
hasn't got it yet because hasn't been
born but
D wasn't
born and where is it said on him
elim um when
ysep uh reveals himself to his brothers
and he meets bamin and he says Hashem
should favor you my son um that is where
bamin gets his of which didn't get when
yov announced to asov that all the
children were Aina were a gift that
didn't include bamin so binyamin gets it
especially in a different context okay
that's what the midash says as I say in
this particular case I don't have a
deeper meaning for the midash I think
there is one uh I think there's there's
particular significance in what it's
saying not quite sure what that
significance is but I thought it's worth
sharing because it's a very different
approach to what we've seen in
the we haven't yet seen Rashi so where's
Rashi number 18 on asa's
question Rashi rephrases it
as
sh
sh sh what has Rashi done he's added one
word and one letter and sometimes these
very short rashies are the hardest to
really understand what rashi's getting
at he takes the three words in the Kish
and replaces them by four words the
first two are the same they're untouched
he adds the word leot and he puts a shin
before the L what is he doing there so
we can see the maral it's a bit
complicated I'm not sure I fully
understand it I want to jump to a
contemporary safer in number 21
called
Rashi K it's a series of five books
which I like a lot which gives you a
simple straight forward explanation of
what Rashi is doing the other MIM the
classical MIM often give you an
explanation of what Rashi is doing which
would not be considered simple and
straightforward but this book Shashi by
R SCH G gilbard who I think is
contemporary um he says as follows on
number 21 me quoting Rashi
rash's explained above just a few
earlier that sometimes you have a l at
the beginning of the word and the L
stands for the word shell which means
belonging to or of let's just jump to
number 22 and 23 where you can see Rashi
expound this principle in number 22
still from Ala uh few him earlier Yakov
sends three delegations in the direction
of asov um with gifts and he also
commands them what to say number
22 he commanded the first group
saying when meets you and asks you
saying
what does it mean to who are you says
Rashi there in number
23 sh
me who has sent
you which means of whom are you but look
at rashi's opening words he takes two
words and replaces them by
sh what's Rashi doing he's just replaced
the lamard with the word shell if you
that's exactly what he's done no more no
less and what does he mean that me is
equivalent to Shell me and says the
Rashi in number 21 Rashi is establishing
a rule here that lard is equivalent to
Shell not all the time obviously because
that wouldn't make sense but where you
just see a word
like that can be explained
as the L is replaced by shell because
that's what it really means so let's
just finish off go back to number
21 um middle of line
to here in our the
word the meaning of the word is of yours
how are they of
yours and the means to
say as we saw before the root really was
the that we saw in number two I know
that they are yours in what way are they
yours are they your children or are they
your servants so Lei means of yours or
sh how are they of yours so without
Rashi we might have been stuck because
we wouldn't have understood what me
means because as I said at the beginning
doesn't really make sense but
me how are they to be of yours I know
they're yours but in what way are they
yours makes more sense and Y Rashi is
suggesting or rather Rashi explaining is
suggesting that Rashid says that Yakov
says to asov sorry asov says to Yakov I
know they're yours but in what way are
they yours which brings me to an
explanation I want to share with you
which I humbly offer as my own k um but
I rather like it and I think it's rather
um it's actually rather precious to me
and it's a drer that I said at my first
son's bmitzvah and I've actually said
many other times and I want to suggest
that okay I want to suggest that this PK
and this question of asvs is similar to
a point made in last week's paraa by
Lavan Lavan and asov they're not the
same but there is an overlap of their
agenda what might be described as the
most terrifying pasuk in tanak is number
24 last week's paraa Yakov lives with
laan raises a family runs away and takes
his wives and takes his children with
him and eventually Lavan meets up with
him and they have an argument about who
stole with traim uh and they prepare to
finally on relatively good
terms um and they prepared to depart but
La says number
24 La answers and says to yov
Hab the daughters are my daughters the
habanim Bai and the sons are my sons for
and the flock is my flock
who and everything you see belongs to
me and what can I do to my
daughters to them today
or or to Children whom they were born
why do I say this is the most terrifying
P because yakov's whole mission has been
to raise the first Jewish family we can
see many instances in the midash and in
thees yob wants to have children he
wants to be Jewish he wants the children
to be his children and laven comes along
and says you know what you think they're
your children they're my children
they're my daughters they're my sons
they belong to me don't think that you
can keep them separate isolated in some
limited denominational Jewish life they
really belong to me they are citizens of
the world and this is the antithesis of
what Yakov and every Jewish parent is
trying to achieve I would suggest that
asov is giving a similar point and asov
says
me who are these to you on what basis do
you claim that they belong to you and
they're not citizens of the world like
lvin said on what basis do you say
they're yours you want to raise them in
this sheltered isolated fromy sort of
environment but on what basis let them
choose for themselves let them
experience the world let them belong to
everyone why are they
yours and that's the question that Yakov
answers you know who they are they're
the gift that hes has given me and when
somebody gives you a gift particularly
a or maybe we can say even a great gift
which makes them so special when
somebody gives you a gift you say thank
you and you treasure the gift and you
look after the gift and you treat the
gift in the way that you think the donor
would want you to treat it if these are
the children whom Hashem has given me as
a then I'm going to look after these
children and my looking after these
children means I'm going to keep them
away from you asov away from you Lavan
away from the dangers of the world I'm
going to raise them as Jews that's my
answer to your question me
on what bases do you think they're yours
I'll tell you what bases they think
they're yours they are a gift from God
literally and I'm going to look after
that gift and I'm going to raise them as
Jews thank you very much