Parshat Tzav: Thanksgiving: The Todah and the Quasi Todah By Rabbi Ari Kahn

okay so today we're doing par which come on let's be honest we we always try to avoid such parot but we're we're not avoiding it we're going a deep dive into corbon note I know the problem the problem is that this is a foreign world it's one that we don't even begin to understand what it is that we're supposed to understand and it's just so mysterious and we're going to make some sense out of this world today and you're going to walk out of this understanding hopefully at least something so let me begin zat so the the first corbon that we're going to discuss today is a corbon which is called Aim so what is schlim so first of all what it is it not okay it's not a corbon Ola which completely is burnt burnt offering going to God it's not a corbon Kat which is a sin offering it's not a corbon for um it's not a it is not one where there may be in it is a Corban which as it sounds like it's a peace offering schlim in order to create peace between man and God so right there what it means is that there is not I'm going to be very careful now not necessarily anything wrong which I did which therefore is going to generate an obligation to bring this coron quite the opposite there's no obligation so here here we're dealing with a Corbin with no obligation what's well and I want to be careful apparently no obligation but I'm going to have to qualify that as we move on now here they're now I have to back up to what I just now said or qualify if you're bringing it because you want to say thank you it's a Corban which means why are you bringing this Corban now the only question is right as of this point will be obligation soon we'll see that there may very well be something that will obligate it but as of this point why you bring the Corban to because something good happened what could happened take your pick what good thing do you want in your life you got accepted to the school that you wanted to get accepted to you won the lottery right your stock just now went all the way out again you choose the good thing that happened to you into your life right anyone else anything else you had a great porm something happened in your life that you want to express thank you so by the way as of this point we don't know what that could be and if the obligation not obligation but it's now if you didn't get it there's lots and lots and lots of flour being used in various ways I'm actually going going to make this a little bit easier for you this is what it looks like more or less this is the artist rendition of the various things that we just now red so you're going to have these and these and these and these now some of them actually could look like like most of the things used in the BET mikdash which will be things which will not bees but you do have those mates over there that very much look like rolls now if you're wondering why they look like rolls because it just now said that you that that's part of what you have to bring and let's if you want I'll read that P again or t b so that's why you had some there which means that this Corban needs to be brought together with these the these these these mat whatever you want to call them go together with theban to continue and when the day that you bring the Corban that is the day that you need to eat this and you're not supposed to leave anything over until the morning so I just again want to pause for a moment moment when you're looking at corba node one of the things you should be looking for is what kind of animal first question will be big animal small animal bakar or ton second question should be looking at are you dealing with a male or you dealing with a female in terms of the obligation I'm not even saying what all this means right now I'm just trying to make sense out of total chaos and disorder and and not understanding this world is that if you want to sound intelligent when somebody starts discussing corbon by the way other things then sprinkling the blood which M are we talking about in out of M so so these essentially are going to be the moving Parts in terms of any kind of a carbon and then the other thing will be does the carbon have anything that is brought with it and in this case the answer is yes we see that there are various things made out of flour which are going to be brought with it so essentially male female big small and and and so on so over here what we know as of this point it is brought with something else well also the other question will be is it eaten or not eaten if it is eaten who eats it just for example coronat is not eaten by the person who brought theat rather it's eaten by the cohain a Corbin Ola on the other hand nobody eats it as the word Ola is completely a burnt offering so again I'm I'm going to say that even though when you enter into this world of corbon not it's very very daunting we say I I just have no idea no understanding whatsoever what's going on that's why I want to begin to try to break things down a little bit then it says in so let's pause right there previously if you're bringing it as a Thanksgiving offering okay now now we have a word to put with this you have a type of a Corban schlim which a Corb schlim is also they have Shalom right peace between us and God so you could have a Corb which is a peace offering because it's a Thanksgiving offering right a Thanksgiving peace offering could be one type but now we're told there another type but on the other hand what if you're bringing it because a you made a vow or you just said I want to give a donation I want to give it I feel like I want to give a donation to The I want to bring this this offering here's the difference you like to eat it on the day that it was bro and you can eat it again on the next day so generally a Corb a regular Corban schlam is eaten for two days and one night one day night next day that means two days and one night so but again why will this be important well may be important how big the animal is and how much food and and also how much how much quote unquote bread is brought with it and anything left over on the third day it gets burnt and then it talks about the sin that may be involved afterwards of leaving meat furthermore but essentially we have as of this point two types of schlim one a toada and one a Ona good good and I know that in a certain sense part of the mystery over here will be you know why are we bring corbon Noe and I had thoughts about talking about that more and I'm actually going to stay away from that as much as possible I will point out that early on in human history and this is not the earliest we do have a Corbin Ola which is brought by Noah After the flood but by the way you could have also said maybe you should bring a Corbin too because he survived he brings a Corbin Ola After the flood and what's more important to me is the Divine response God then somehow smells and appreciates the pleasant smell but yo and God said say I'm not going to do this kind of cursing the Earth because of man because man basically has this terrible from the very beginning man has this terrible I'm not going to strike all of creation like I've done previously I'm not going to use this as the reason so it's interesting that he brings a Corbin Ola and there's some kind of response to it which means quote unquote it works so I know that what I just now did is maybe not necessarily connected but maybe that's part of the hope that any whenever you bring a Corban even if you were not necessarily obligated to bring it maybe it brings some kind of divine response maybe something happens so let's go now back to the beginning of the yra because it's that's when it starts off telling us about our Corban not very beginning it starts off with again that's one of the things I told you to pay attention to Bak are going to be big animals are going to be the small animals if you're going to bring Corb a Corbin now you learn also needs to be from a male that's what a Corbin needs to be from the male from the Bak but but as we continue it will tell us in which means the thing about a COR ol yeah you could choose a big animal you could choose a small animal you can make a burnt offering anything that you want but a Corola really always is a male and that's the only thing which stays with it and as we continue we're actually told that Source foric you can also end up bringing uh things which are not necessarily even an animal you can bring you can bring things made out of solet you can bring things which are made out of uh things which grow as a Corban and it does not have to be an animal what whatsoever so let let's a grain yeah you could bring a grain offering as well and then the continuation peric B actually mentions one more thing the so this is a which means it's not from an animal but it's it's okay well let's make this easier Bim will bring B most likely on then it says aiv which is really interesting word it's grain which grows in the spring don't get Fred by it so you're going to take the new grain and you're going to burn the Grain and the grain is going to be put as an offering so again just in case you think that this whole world of corbon note is uniquely a world that only deals with killing animals and that's all that's going on all days that killing animals no there there are other types of offerings and Gest religious gestures which are taking place and I hope that's good again last week it told us also about the Corban and it adds a little bit more that we did not know when we picked it up this week and then Source 5 and then afterwards it will go on to say what what it means is is that when you bring aim which is essentially to a great part voluntary then if you're bringing from the bakar which means large animals like a cow you could do Z which means when it comes to the voluntary offering it's less rigid in terms of what you need to do if it's a Corbin again it has to be in a certain way Corbin Allah has to be a certain way but here you're volunteering and you're volunteering to do what it is that you want to do and therefore there is a possibility of having a larger animal we'll talk about the implications of that in a moment in Source number six which is back in parav but I but I will go back and say that Corb does not have to be it's you you could choose to use smaller animals as well but what it does say at the very end over here is that this will then create that this again this Divine response in Source number six so is dealing with again grain offerings and that also creates if you look at the end of but and here's the thing which is interesting by the by other thing is where needs to be eaten which just now created another principle and that is that the various and so on are not supposed to be so it's at this point that again I don't want to go any further here cuz I know that we're already getting close to complete confusion because we already have contradictions now there are some corbon note that have rules in terms of it has to be male or it has to be female there are some that have to be eaten here eaten by the Coen eaten by the person so when it comes to the Corban schlim there really is the most leeway two types of schlim one is the toada one is her that could be either male or female animal that could be big animals it could be small animals but it was something else that that we learned just now but it needs lots and lots and lots of bread together with the toada and that we were told specifically with the which is a to lots and lots of bread and there's going to be a problem over here because the other thing which again you should have been paying attention to is the amount of time that you have to eat it when it comes to the other type of schlim it could be eaten for the day the night night and the next day so you have two days and a night and but when it comes to the Corban to then we're limited it has to be eaten only on that day good good and now we know everything that we need to know Ray in Source number seven breaks it down gives us information and is going to give us a way to proceed and understand this which this is back where we began the two types of to one is because something happened that you want to say thank you and the other one is purely out of this motivation that I want to reach out to God carbon right there's always this gesture between man and God whereby where sometimes something comes from above and then we respond sometimes that we reach out from below so it sounds as if the Corban toada is that I discern that something came down from heaven and I want to thank God for this on the other hand the Corban is meant it's essentially Corban would be that man discerns that God has done something in my life of significance and now I want to respond in a religiously appropriate way on the other hand the Corbin schlim is that I am reaching out to God and what do I of course I want some kind of divine blessing abundance and so on in my life but it's really my reaching up without anything having happened perhaps yet so it's almost like there are two types of schlim is one is anticipation of something good H sorry we'll do the other way around one is because something good really happened and I want to say thank you and the other is an anticipation and hope that something good is going to happen did that make that a little bit easier the to is one type of the schlim that was that first type that can okay and that's the other distinction when I want something good to happen and I'm reaching out there's no obligation then I can eat the corun day night and day two days in a night but when it's thanks for something which has happened then I can only eat it that day so now of course you should all be asking me by this point so why is there a difference they're both a corbon schlam which means all of these rules about the corbon note are ult enough as it is so why in the world are we making know why do we why is god making all of these rules and that's really where is addressing because what he's going to try to do now is distinguish between those two types of Corban schlam the type where something good has happened versus the one where I want something good to happen so again I can show you the pictures of all that that was a lot and that was really a great deal of bread now just think for a second you also have a corbon and you only have this one day to eat it and you have a lot of bread which means theoretically you could be making 40 sandwiches right of uh of know depends on how big that animal was which is if you if you actually brought a baka you brought a cow how are you finishing that cow and all that bread in one day so one guy brings a corbon so now you realize maybe it would make some sense to bring something which is somewhat smaller because it can only be in that day anything left over then we have all those rules that becomes whatever so perfect perfect so therefore which now you realize that that that's exactly where the is going with this and he say look at the enormous amount of bread that you have over here and so on and so forth and he says you end up having 30 types of matah and another 10 you know whole pile of which by the way the is really interesting what in the world the the and the and the matah are doing over here and we're going to skip a little bit don't we have a principle you don't bring as part of a Corban you don't bring goes no it's different and this is like really we're getting technical now the problem with having a Corban which is is actually putting it on the M but not over here having it as part of the rules together with the Corban so yes we are getting hyper um technical in all of this is there anything else that we want to know about all this may maybe maybe just the sorno first maybe this will help usno also on that right all of again is opposed to right we all know this already by the way don't you feel good about this you already know what he's going to say next there's a distinction between the different types of schlim the ones which are those are going to come with a lot of bread including the one on the other hand which is going to come because I want something good to happen future oriented that on the other hand is not going to come with uh with so let's read thisno again now if you doing because you wanted to be thankful then you have to put there the danger is always the guys have any idea what this this is so famous this term actually the idea not the term the idea is famous the term you have no idea what he's talking about he goes the problem is the is now the truth is what we're going to come back to this for in a second the truth is it's total metaphor which he's using and the metaphor is found in the gar in the G says in which is down over here in 14 this is the prayer some would say this is what would say and this is what would say after he finished daving you know at the end of daving let's say you you have the I mean the so this is what he would say at the end of daving master of all worlds it's revealed and known to you our desire is to do your desire what holds us back from serving you properly so what is it now what exactly is yesterday in in our class on GAR Jacob that what exactly is s s is we normally we translate as yeast by the way all almost all yeast which is used today is not real yeast real yeast as tower level yeast would be something which we would generally call today sour dough and then you can explore what could be the connection between s versus S which means what you can't have on PES is and is aing Agent it's something which turns something into so if you have you know flour water and then you throw in s sour dough you turn this into so over here it's saying what is it now we want to serve you God what holds us back that somebody threw some sour dough into the ISA now as I told you that's a metaphor into the into the dough and the fact that we're controlled by other kings be God's will your will save us from them and let us serve you with a complete heart now what in the what in the world is this prayer that he would say every day not now why do we keep messing up and not doing your will therefore is a metaphor for that's really interesting it turns things into it's essentially what did the Garra just now do it turned into a metaphor and a symbol of the which which of course creates huge questions by the way this is a really interesting thing in terms of Jewish theology the various opinions who are going to make a move and change the concept of looking fromes looking for searching forit possessing kites eating kites from being something which is purely God said and I don't need to question why into a spiritual struggle for me to rid the world of evil and rid my house or my heart or my home of all kinds of which means becomes a symbol for now that's really interesting by the way the term used over here is the thing which spoils things and it causes you to miss opportunities and so on so essentially what is this prayer the prayer is God I really want to serve you why do I keep messing up and I mess up because thear why do I have Yar cuz God gave me what is the symbol of the story should be Isa but by the way all of this takes us to really another place but like one stop before we get to that place and therefore it makes a great deal of sense that that we don't use any Kates on the M why the the that's not the place we're trying to rekindle our relationship with God we're trying to fix the relationship with God it's no place for thear of course the obvious obvious problem with all of this is that if in fact the is represented ofar thenit should never be allowed to be eaten right it should be the same thing as far as we're concern concerned as pork chops right it's not Kosher even worse maybe why worse because this is the represent for thear so how in the world can we ever have it now on top of all that we now have a problem as well why when bringing the Corban to the schl which is a toada why in that particular offering do we have this combination where we have a lot of things which are matah and why is there which is represented in this which means this now by the way you see what we just now did yeah like like somehow we're going to get out of all of these Technical and boring and and things about the corbon note and then realize no no there's something else which is going on over here and the Corban TOA is one which is going to create a challenge but it's again it's going to be this combination which is a disturbing combination so I want to make a suggestion you ready once I make this suggestion now then something may actually click and something may actually make sense every I've been saying about the Corban TOA should not have been terribly foreign to us look at this first look at this Forno in Source number nine that's where we starting that's where we went looking for our Sahara which means we're thanking God that we were saved from something why were we saved because there was something bad there what represents the bad thear is what causes their an ability for something to be bad again that that's where we had paused in this Forno nonetheless whenever an individual brings a Corban which is a to or we'll just call it a Corban to whenever he does that or he or she does that they will always be too much food for one person to eat one person cannot in one day eat the Corban the entire thing right what he essentially just now told us something which is I think really interesting he said by definition all of us should understand that there's no way for an individual I'm repeating myself to eat theban with all of the bread involved in it right all of this bread there's no way for one person to eat all of this in one day and it limited to one day so it says why does it limited to one day it says because the person has something to be thankful for something good happened and therefore the concept of a Corban T is to bring in as many people as possible that you can tell them the narrative and tell them what happened and tell them how God came into your life and tell them how God saved you and express your appreciation which means the Corbin TOA has built into it lots of people now by the way you want to use a current metaphor of this it means make a Kish and bring lots and lots of people over there and lots and lots of food and you're not of course is going to come somehow from this but I'm saying what the spno just now did is he looked at all the pieces of information and again to a very great extent this corbine is an outlier in the sense the amount of time who's eating it the amount of time the amount of bread and he's saying look at the obvious too much food too much bread too much to eat a person and too little time you just take that combination and he says well there's one more element that this is a corbon designed to say Thank you so if you want to say thank you that means that something happened that you want to say thank you about and if you want to say thank you so therefore you're saying that it's a thing to bring as many people as possible to hear that story to hear how God saved you so that they can all say wow that's incredible you knowem and so on and so forth that is what the Corban to is now are we good till this point did everything make sense till this point cuz I just now we're going to take the jump okay every everything here is simple yeah everything really really till this point was simple we just made a little order of it if you want I'll say it one more time we have over here all kinds of carbon out all kinds of rules all kinds of things what's brought who eats it and so on here we have a rule lots of bread animal little time put that all together how do I stop the food from becoming what ever it's called after its time that I can no longer eat it it all has to be burnt and so on and so forth what prevents that so I invite lots of people to my party I said come up send the invitations come up to Har it I'm bringing a Corban toada I want and now part of it becomes why bring a Corb which means there's a story involved in as well and I would love to believe here we taking the First Leap I would love to believe that people had lots of opportunities to do this again I'd like to believe it I'd like to believe that lots of people religiously sensitive relig ly inclined with the beta mikdash as this religious Center not geographical but religious Center of their lives if something good happened how do you express it you go and you say ah we're going up we're going to harab it we're making a trip we're being a Corban toada we're going to tell over the story and that's the kind of thing that you want you you're can to invite everybody and you're going to show your kids this is how we say thank you and God really helped me this is really unexpected something really happened my life was saved and so on and so forth and and and again I'll say it again this is how it's done and I just added one thing along the way I'd love to believe that this was really a popular corbon you know why it's why it should be a popular corbon because it's really the happiest corbon that there is it's one where nobody's telling you you have to do anything and you have to bring lots of people and it's a party a Corbin toad right Are We There Yet now a Corbin toad is a party it's a party you could say yeah but still it's in B mikdash it's not in Tel Aviv and so on and so forth and we can continue with the various complaints about it but no this is a religious party and I'll say it one more time I'd love to believe that people do it a lot now here's the second thing that you need now to realize the Corban toada Bears incredible resemblance to another corbon that you should know quite well and that's the Corbin PES of course there's something missing but everything else is there first thing that as we're looking in schote we're told that that everyone should bring a set by the way now it goes down to the smaller animal the smaller type and and and that by the way is true corbon PES has to be animal which is which is in its first year which by the way generally means that it's going to be very very small and very very young you don't know this because you're old city Folk yes that Lambs are born only certain times of the year did you know this you don't know about the menstrual cycles of grown no it's far more interesting than you would think but if it had to be in its first year then it's almost guaranteed that it's not going to be more than a month or so old do your research check up look about how how they grow their uh their lambs and so on anyway it means it's very small by the way this thing about not breaking its bones means that you have to eat it also you have to eat it very fast but you also have to be careful do don't just like grab a bone and break it and eat it it has to be done with a little bit of more have to take your time but that itself now becomes really interesting C bet C and it's it's really each family then going to gather together and I really I mean the reason I know this is because I really try to figure out mathematically how many portions there are in a young lamb that people can eat how big the group is going to be and again my suspicion is it's not all that big especially when you realize how how small the lamb probably is and then you you take it and you put it away you take on the 10th of the month and you put it away till the 14th of the month and then the offering takes place in the evening of the of the 14th over here they don't have a they put on the doorpost and that's part of a whole another story you take it and you eat it together with matah matah and M now when I say that oh there's something over here about Corban pesak which reminds me of the Corban TOA it's that I eat it together with M by the way there's something missing and I know what's missing and I think that you all know what's missing but there's something else which is missing but I'll go even further this is 2/3 or 3/4 of the corant because there's something else which happens and what's that we tell the story We Tell The Narrative which means the what was the Coran told the Toba is a Thanksgiving offering it's a Thanksgiving for something wonderful which has happened again we can discuss the first year of PES that's really interesting the first PES but every subsequent pesak what are we doing we're thanking God for something really good which has happened to us and therefore we're taking the we're taking this animal and then we're eating together with matah should we all admit now what's missing what's missing is the thing which bothered us in the first place and what's that kit is what's missing because a Corb TOA has mat andit so we're in the world the which means if you actually understand what I'm saying now it means that you're with me and you got it the thing which really should be bothering us if I'm going to make a comparison between a Corbin PES and a Corbin to the thing which is missing is the thing which never bothered us because it shouldn't be there in the first place and that's thees which means where's theit and your response could be of course there can't beit there's there's P but that's the thing which prevented it from being a Corban to yes we're good yes you can't leave it to the morning which means it can only be eat in in that one small time period by the way you can even argue maybe even it's a smaller time period than a regular corent TOA and eat it quickly and so on and so forth and then we're told to get rid of the right get get rid of thees and you can't and this is moving forward P there wasn't get but subsequently there is and I just want to add another thing every single time it says in the Torah to eat mat on P It also says in either the same verse or the next verse and don't EIT and get rid ofit which means it's almost as that and matah are two opposite things which are always said together and over here as well here eat Mata but you can't eat which again therefore makes the Corban to a little bit more interesting um Source number 10 these are the people who should bring these are the people who these are the people in today this is the person who would say right this is people who are they translate people who've crossed to seea people whove wandered in the desert people who were sick and were healed and people who were stuck in prison now how many of those would you be make an easy argument oh when they left Egypt they're included in this right again again three out of the four really easy the only one which you can argue is maybe being sick even though you have a great PK that says that when after they I'm God who healed you which is also part of leaving Egypt essentially leaving Egypt has all of the elements which should generate a Corbin TOA which now takes me back to my same point maybe I really should be looking at the Corbin PES as a Corbin TOA but of course there's something which is a problem and there's something which is missing and what is missing and what's missing is in this mishna in Source 11 in has the what we call the now you may not know this but the Manana I mean anybody if they want you can look this up very easily um the man as written in the mishna has another question right after is there's a question about the Corbin p in all of our as far as I know in all of our that question was removed it was replaced by the way with with the question about leaning back or or not leaning back which means the real expression of Freedom was eating the Corbin PES on the other hand we no longer have a Corbin PES so a kid is not going to ask about the Corbin PES that we no longer have but that is in the mission in the next line the reason why I'm stressing it and as I was reworking all of this in my head as I was driving this morning I had hoped that IID left that there because it seems to me very clearly that this mishna this this should be obvious by the way this mishna is a remnant of Temple times when the kid is used to eating well eating a corant in the beta mikdash he says why is this one only prepared this way as opposed to other Corban note which leads me to another line in the Manana which I think maybe we don't understand properly there other nights we it's not true we don't eat mat every night when do you eat mat by a to which means if this kid is more meaning if this really is a temple oriented question and the kid therefore is going to ask about corbino because he's asking hold it why we only roasting this as opposed to other corbon not which means this clever kid who's asking his questions is asking about the B about the Corbin PESA as opposed to other Corbin out done in the BET mikdash and the other usual Corban that he would have been a part of and he would have seen would have been the Corban toada so in a sense what he's asking and by the way I'm really serious about this I know that this may sound like I'm for I'm really serious about this that so much so that the Corban P if you lived in a world where the BET mdash existed you would know that the Corban PES fits into the Corban TOA world it's a Corban TOA that's what it looks like that's what it feels like what other Corban does the whole family sit around together what are the corbond do everybody sit around and then the then the story is told and the story is told how God saved us and how God got involved in our lives and and look at the miraculous things that happened and what would happen when we would have the Corbin toada we would eat it together with so over here the kid is looking and saying hold it a second on all other nights we eat why is there no over here which means everything I just now said I really believe is true but it's so far from us cuz all of us have had plenty of St in our lives never occurred to us that that's what it may mean because we live in a world that our PES experience is inauthentic in the sense that it's not what it was supposed to be with the corbon PES is in the center now when the Corbin PES is the center then he asks why are we eating this Corbin only roasted as opposed to the way that other Corbin o could be prepared and why are we eating this what feels like a corbon toada without the bread what happened to the bread and then the question becomes a much better question than I think that we ever appreciated of course we then pick it up we repackage it and we turn it into a question that exists in a nonam mikdash world in a world we no longer have the Corban but all that I'm trying to do with this is to push further my state of agenda and that is to show to what extent that the Corban PES really is at least reminiscent or 2/3 or 3/4 whatever percentage you liked of a Corban toada and of course we need now to come back to the most obvious thing which is missing and that is the bread so let's now try to understand that we get to continuation VRA and that's really interesting that this is still in vayikra because VRA we would have thought deals with corbon OE and so on there's a shift that takes place over here and this is par and now we're dealing with holidays right AES we're dealing with holidays and all of these holidays that are going to be mentioned are going to be holidays that have some kind of an agricultural side to them and that's also interesting why is it called this should bother everybody if R is in why is Nissan called thees in what sense is ites it's the beginning of the Agricultural year it's the springtime keep in mind spring spring is important in thees on the 14th of the month p and I'm going to say this stronger than you think I'm going to say it it's not that it happens to be that PES comes out in the spring and therefore we have these various laws is that God specifically took us out in the spring because it's the spring because spring is the beginning spring what you have is it's things that looked like it was dead all winter and suddenly comes back to life the Jewish people may have seemed as if they were dead while they're in Egypt there're no people what are you talking about a people there's no Jewish people they're just slaves that we leave and we come back to life just like everything growing comes back to life that the a Torah law which is you can't serve you can't use the new crop until after the OM was brought or theoretically could have been brought which means it can't be done until the 16th day of uh of Nissan and this this is a total spring concept and by the way now you realize that also the corbon itself is a spring concept the corbon is a spring concept and the OM is a spring concept which of course now you realize something else the matah is also a spring but the matah has to be from the end end of the previous crop because we're about to get new a new crop which is about to grow let's continue you're going to count and so on and you're going to bring this offering and so on and so forth and then when it comes to then you bring so why was I working so hard in order to try to show that if you realize that the counting creates something by the way the person who really explains this a lot is the ramban but he doesn't say it exactly the way that I just now said it what the ramban says is that is kind of like the of sukot and the seven weeks are like the seven days and then you have the eighth day is and here the Eighth Day the eighth is the holiday of but essentially what he does is he creates a complete linkage between and but the other thing which is that word that I hope that you just now noticed is that you're bringing which means what were we searching for in terms of PES and the Corban to we were searching for this element that was missing and the thing that was missing of course was the and the then shows up on which itself is also interesting which means if I still want to argue that there is this Corban PES is like a Corban TOA it's like a Corbin Tor that became broken up into two where most of it is taking place on PES and then it's going to be completed only when I get toab now of course you know that aside from the agricultural there's also the other part of it the theological the Torah part of it where you have Egypt and then you have Matan Tor and over here you have the spring and then you have the the spring uh the things which are growing and what I'm trying to express is that these are not two separate things things that God took leaving Egypt and plants it places it right on top of the spring time in order that there's going to be this dual aspect and this dual expression of Joy this feeling it's going to be the farmer after working on the entire winter and planting and plowing suddenly something is growing that's going to be the feeling of things coming back to life which means that the God is building this incredible background for the pesak experience the whole background of the spring is there which means that when it keeps on telling us and if you want we we can keep on looking it says a Time After Time After Time that P is in the springtime in the again I'm I'm not going to go through all of these verses but if you want if you want we could but it's time if time time it it stresses this that pesak always has to be in the springtime here Source 34 Source 35 right afterwards the emphasis on Spring it's not just in order for us to be rinded oh what time of year is pesak no pesak is a spring holiday and the idea of the Jews leaving is this idea of coming back to life sort of like everything happens in pesak now let me go back a second and there's still this huge problem the huge problem is why okay other way around if bread represents the Yar why is it ever around so I'm going to read something to you in the cakar which is in Source number 13 by the way the kakar had a near-death experience almost died and he was known as a great Daran he had the like the best speeches the best talks and when he was sick you know we know what his Corban toada was of course there's no B mdash he lived a couple hundred years ago he was a rabbi in Prague and a preacher in Prague he said God if I surv survive I'm going to publish all my talks so everybody else can use them so I lose my exclusivity CU that was his uh he had all these great ideas but he never but he would only share them when he would talk if he publishes them then he can no longer use them and everyone else is going to steal his stuff so he says I'll publish all of my talks so he's going to make an argument that it's an inverse relationship of what you think with the bread is the time we get the Torah why do we get the Torah because we have AAR if we didn't have AAR we don't have any need for Torah which means how do we have an ability of facing this world only because we have Torah we only have then rules telling us this is right and this is wrong and establishing within us a moral compass essentially the kaker argument is I mean he's basing himself on a gamaran Shabbat where Moshe goes up to get the Torah and the angels start to argue with God and say why you giving the Torah to him and God says talk to him and Moses like completely frightened and and Moses you know ask God what is saying it and then he starts turning on them he says okay you should leave the house you're leaving Egypt I'm God who took you out of the house of slavery were you slaves but it goes on onor your parents do you guys have parents and it goes steal you do you even have AAR you know to go and steal things and it's at that point that they back down and they said okay you're right you know we're angels we have to do whatever God says to do which means what he's arguing is why do we celebrate with bread because bread represents thear and it's only because we have AAR that God gave us the Torah is that if we didn't have the Torah then we would not sorry if we didn't have we wouldn't need the Torah we would be perfect beings just like M would do whatever weever we're told which means essentially we have a process which is taking place and it's this process of Freedom part of freedom is being able to make your own choices part of being a slave is not having choices leaving Egypt there's like this Corban toada aspect of it in terms of thank you for taking us out of a house of slavery take thank you for taking us out of prison thank you for helping us course through the sea thank you for you know going through the desert there's all these reason to say thank you but on the other hand really to have the ability to make choices is based upon the it's based upon the it's based upon this other aspect to it and therefore the celebration or the comparison of a PES with Corb to it does not get completed until we get to that next stage and we stand by the by har and receive the Torah I if you want I can now read if you want to hear the one second I created but I created the antidote and the anote is Torah had it not been that we have an evil inclination God never would have taken the Torah from the from the heavens and given us to love keep that was the clenching argument of mosha against the Angels you have this incredible treasure you're giving it to man you want to give it to people made of flesh and blood again Flesh and Blood are people who make mistakes who are very fragile do you guys even have do you have an ability of making ches is that the reason we need Torah is of course we need to be able to deal with our Yer har now the what's interesting is this time then between feeling free and between receiving Torah yes do you understand why I'm saying that's a problem because when you feel completely free you can make all kinds of choices and you receive the Torah then you kind of limit it to what's right so essentially every year this time of year what you're going to have between p is a time of we call the OM counting the and again the real counting as much as people say oh it's counted between leaving Egypt and getting by Hari if at best that's a secondary at best it's secondary the real thing is it's something which is completely agricultural but nonetheless it's a time which is problematic and so much so that in Source 16 we're told something which we all know and that is where has 12,000 pairs of students and when did they die they during this time which is really interesting because then it sounds like they're dying between the time that is the beginning but we actually then receive the the theer we receive the Torah and the ability of fighting with the ater har and I just want to focus on that time and now go to a place which I don't know at all if you would have anticipated this but if we're talking about the Corbin Pak in a certain sense as the first Corban of am Isel this is when we begin this is when am Israel begins this is when we leave Egypt and we start with the Corban PES which is in a certain sense a Corban to I want to go back to the first Corban which is actually cited in the Torah I mean you can argue whether but doesn't say it the first one who brings a carbon is going to take us back to peric doid yes remarkably we were back in early parts of which is really interesting because she thinks she has acquired a relationship with God through having this child but and then there's kind of like this afterthought this additional child he he is a farmer and works the ground and after a period of time which we're not tell how much time but it's a period of time which of course now is a question how much time he brings from the things which are growing he brings an offering to God and he brings from his now we have to be more careful he brings from his very first see that's I always find that interesting if this is um if this is passive aggressive he what is what does he sacrifice he sacrifices the firstborn now if you're Cen how do you relate to that right he sacrifices his first animal but uh I I don't think that there's anything evil in his mind during his thought but it says is he also brings an offering from his first from the choice and God CHS he and his offering now what is interesting about this one is who's the original the the the person who first thinks about this idea of offering something to God that's Ken what does he bring so you have to work backwards what does it say me PR from among the things growing but what does heav he also brings what does he do he brings the best there is two different approaches to I would say religious devotion over here one person kind of checking the box and the other person saying no I want to do this right I want to do this in the best way I can possibly do it and of course there should not be surprised that God accepts the offering of he um Ken gets enraged Ken goes and kills Heil and says that afterwards my My Brother's Keeper and so on and the answer that God says is yeah you're your brother's keeper so I I I want to stop with all of this because there is a really interesting subtext to everything that I just now read which is found in the midash now whether you can actually say oh yeah I see this in the text is of no concern to me or not if you see it or you don't see it what's much more interesting to me is that the rabbis decided that oh no there's a subtext over here and let's and let's try to understand the subtext Raba here we start in 21 we start with the argument of Les Yeshua when the world was created again do we have a Tish world or do we have a Nissan World when's the beginning of the world which essentially is if the beginning is Nissan so the first fruits and the first everything in Nissan is going to be interesting but following this up it says over here those who say that the world's cre niss how long did he actually live he lived from p and therefore he was that as total he was he was in the world 50 days now before you ask me I have no idea what this means he only lived for 50 days and he was already working you know one's a farmer and the others work with the animals and so on I don't know what this means what is far more interesting to me is how this madash took the Cen heav story and placed it on the time between PES and by the way that's actually the time that people don't get along with one another so therefore you say hold it where is the really uh the beginning the archetype of the students of Rea not getting along with one another oh look at this Ken kills heo at the same point of the year so as I said that to me becomes a bit more interesting um it continues because the word meit PRI right it doesn't say meit PRI that that's what this point down verse 23 and therefore it says which means if he was going to bring Bim then he should have brought the first but he doesn't bring the first he brings the end of the previous craft he brings whatever doesn't has nothing else to do with if you want we can be clearer with that but look at the mid in Source number 24 and again it reads the he story as if we're dealing up between and and it says yeah the Jews in the future are going to bring a Corban a Corban uh PES so therefore you should bring offerings as well now if you're not getting yet what's going on