Mount Sinai... Again? Rabbi Neil Winkler | April 30th 2026

Let today's morning learning is dedicated for a full schlemiel of Mira Virac. Oh, I'm sorry this for Leon Yaco Nissan Ben Aura. So for a full schlemiel Mira for Leon Yaco Nissan Ben Aura. Please God we should have all of the sick of Israel now with a giver a full schlemiel. Um I'm going to go back to this as I told you I would the the curses and the blessing. And I want to tell you um it was a real spectacle. I had been I had been actually trying to figure out a good network English name for what this public spectacle was but unfortunately 12 years in Israel I forgot English. Also my age but anyway I know this great word for it if you come up with it you know just whisper it to me so I can use it. But here it is. All of Israel is gathered around the two mountains um Har Grizim and Har Eval. And um if you look at the source and I think I have it right. Um which we had already done you'll see the first source that we have. In the English just to review for those who were there and for those who weren't it's not a review but it's something to know. Can somebody please I ran out of the sources what can we give somebody share sources so we can get people for here. Thank you very much. Good thank you so much. Um That's the whole point only after I say it. Um there you see in the English where it says at that time Yeshua built an altar to the God of Israel. By the way this is not my translation this comes from whatever this Safari I has and that's another mistakes of theirs and anything good I cleans up while the other thing is I am. I don't like when I read you know when it gives you God the eternal one of Israel. Give me a break. Hashem I don't know what I don't want to have how many pages do I have to go but anyway I had you know I built an altar to God I'm going to say well as Moses I'm going to say Moses after that had commanded the Israelites and as is written in the book of the teaching of Moses in the Torah. The an altar of unhewn stone upon which no iron had been wielded. They offered it the burnt offerings the Ola to Hashem and they brought sacrifices of well being at shalomim and there on the stones he inscribed a copy of the of the teaching that Moshe had written for the Israelites. All Israel stranger and and citizen alike with their elders officials and magistrates stood on either side of the ark facing the Levium Kohanim you know the the Kohanim from Levium who carried the Aron. Half of them faced Har Grizim and half of them faced Har Eval as Moshe had commanded them in order to bless Israel. After that he read all the words of the teaching the weather the blessing the curse just as is written in the Torah. There was not one word of all that Moshe had commanded that Joshua failed to read in the presence of the whole congregation of Israel including the women and children and the strangers who accompanied them. All right. That is what it says in the safer of Yeshua. That's what I was that which I mentioned and spoke about last time. But I was to show you now where those sources are that I didn't give you. There are sources there two sources in the Torah about this um spectacle on Har Eval and Har Grizim. And here it says here first time we read it is in the beginning of Parshat Re'eh. And it begins with Re'eh Anochi Noten Lifneichem Hayom Bracha Uklala. Behold this day I set before you a blessing and curse. The blessing if you obey obey the commandments of your God and that I enjoin upon you this day. The curse if you do not obey the commandments um of your God but turn away from them the path and so on and so forth. And um it goes on as we'll see um to in more detail. Actually I it was I I mistakenly left out that last verse because the verse afterwards said um these shall give the resident Eloheima and you will find that uh on Har Eval Har Grizim Eloheima Be'ever Hayarden Acharei Derech Mevo Hashemesh as it says behold these two mountains you will find on the western part of the of the um Jordan. And he he actually defines and depicts exactly what it is the Torah does that in Re'eh. I was [snorts] more fascinated when a um >> [clears throat] >> nephew of mine who a middle aged young became a tour guide which is a lot of work and is really terrific. And he said come I got to show you something with I um Chol Ha Moed Pesach a couple of years ago his parents my cousins went there and um we went actually he wasn't my he's not my nephew he's my cousin's son but they were so close we grew up around the corner with each other. Anyway so he talked me and one of the places he went to he said okay come here this is what and he said to me remember what the Torah says um when it defines where we are and he showed me Derech you know what it says in the Torah in Re'eh. Eloheima Be'ever Hayarden >> [clears throat] >> the western side of Jordan Acharei Derech Mevo Hashemesh. And there is a road they call Derech Mevo Hashemesh. You know and you find it and it goes in the next to Shechem and as it's detailed in the Torah there is he showed me coming down in Jordan and coming across the Jordan and there it is and and it's fascinating. I said boy you know I guess God knew about the geography pretty well putting it down in the Torah. It's amazing amazing. So it's great to be able to live that. And one of the of the miracles we have that after we we we liberated these areas we never were able to go there and understand that. The the Torah scholars and the and the archaeologists and everything ran to see these things and they uncovered phenomenal things. It was very very interesting. And and the knowledge we know that's why everybody now believes that you know [clears throat] the Jews belong here. >> [laughter] >> Yeah right. Anyway so um I should say should. But anyway um then we read later on in Parshat Kitavo. There is Parshat Kitavo we read in the next source the details about what are we talking about at Har Grizim and Har Eval. And uh Oh this is the second page. Yeah this turn you got to turn it around. Yeah and there it says Moshe and the elders of the Israel charged the people saying observe all of the instructions of Torah that I enjoin upon you today. As soon as you have crossed the Jordan into the land that God has given you you shall set up large stones. I have yet yes underlined them because we touched upon the last time that it seems the Torah says as soon as you cross the Jordan you should do that. And I showed you that it wasn't that soon was it. They had first the the war with in Jericho then in Ai and the two battles and so on and so forth took a while. But anyway you shall coat them with plaster and inscribe upon them all the words of this teaching. So so far that is just placing what it is say what it was whether it's the whole Torah that had to be etched on these stones or just just the Torah only certain parts. Either way that was what was happened to that. And then when you cross over to enter the land flowing with milk and honey as God promised you upon crossing the Jordan you shall set up these stones which I taught you on Har on Mount Eval and coat them with plaster. Right >> [snorts] >> Har Eval. There too you shall build an altar to the eternal there it is again I'm sorry this I No. I'm telling you the amount of ink that I'm losing with it. Anyway so I I got an altar of stones. So now with that this exactly what we Joshua it says in Joshua it says there he made the stones put in and it says as it says in the Torah. Well, he wasn't kidding. This is what it says in the Torah. This is what it says in the Torah. remarkable and It goes through the laws that when you build an altar you may not use a a sword any cutting tool for that but rather you should take just the the stones as they are and put them up to make the altar and your sacrifices and exactly what it says in So here it is Joshua didn't make it up himself. This is and the closeness between the the words and even the none of the laws but the words of the volume with safer Joshua makes it very strongly a point that indeed it they were it was written at the same time. In other words, the volume the whole book of the volume was in that last year in the desert and then immediately after that Joshua takes place and starts doing these things. It's just about the same generation. That's why the language is the same. um that I won't go into that but part of the linguistics like to see about this. And I told you in the beginning when I gave you the um the introduction to safer Joshua that there are those who believe that there was only really six books. the the Samaritans Shamronim take these six books. Not the five books of the six books books of the five books of and Joshua's you know that six and the Muslims also believe these six books. They see that as one unit. And it looks linguistically very true that they're very close. A lot of the the words we see in the volume are found earlier in the in the Torah. Certain words were for the first time we see that and we do see that in Joshua. And then as it goes on you see the years go on. There are different languages as the 100s of years ago there are a different way the language is. I think I mentioned this last time. I try to try to read the Chaucer and claim that it's English. Okay. So anyway um the um The fact that one had to do this it's important. Why it was told by God and told to Joshua and Joshua carried it out. It's very simple. You're talking about a I see a new generation. It is the same as the as the night 40th year in the desert. But those who went through the plagues and the miracles in the desert had a pretty strong opinion that I guess we should do what God wants us to cuz remember what happened when we didn't. So they had they had given motion of a bundle as their teacher. Not bad. And I told them what to do and he taught them and over and over again. Please understand when I speak of the Torah and when we do speak of the Torah and we find out that the first four books just about except for the last part of the midbar were all said in the first two years. After that there's nothing. I mean there's in the second in the last year year and a half maybe something. What happened? And the answer is simple. People we have a lot of people who are quite ignorant and they like to find aha you see there's nothing. That is not true. It was during this time that motion was teaching these things over and over again. He did not teach them once put it down and then sat down and played chess. He had the time now to spread out as he said these elders his students who now began to teach what God the motion had pronounced and who taught to a a class of students who became teachers who then spread to more teachers and students and so on and so forth. That's how the laws were taught and understood by all of Israel. So it wasn't a matter they come and said no no he wrote it one for me. Well, that was my students. Anyway, so that is what we have and that's how the Torah really grew and was understood. Next generation now without a motion and some of them are now being born and they would be born after this all happened. How are they going to know? So here we have there's a higher reason in the volume. and The idea that the key of life for for the for the Jew for the nation of Israel was the observance of the Torah. Very clearly it's often repeated in the Torah and often repeated repeated in the Torah to Joshua. If you remember the very first chapter in Joshua it says I get the volume on the live it's only then you have to study story that you know where you'll be able to succeed and so on and so forth. um And that is why we mentioned We mentioned in in in the first time I I think it's in the first thing you don't have to have it now that it says there call you to actually I think it's in the in the first It's in this first thing where it says all you see the second the second paragraph on the first source All Israel stranger and citizen alike there the elders and officials and magistrates they were all there and they were women children by the way the women children and strangers are mentioned in the Torah too. um So that's why they were all there. They were all accepted at that point. They were all accepted as part of Israel which means when it says gave him the strangers It was people who took upon themselves the laws of the Torah. They were outsiders they weren't born Jews but they became Jewish. And they were part of it because they were part of the nation. And that is a very very important thing. They were all accepted that way. That's how important this was. But there's another reason of why this is so important. You see um This convention this spectacle happened at this time um because upon the entry into the land of Israel I'm going back to one of I think the thesis that I've mentioned a number of times. >> [snorts] >> This is a new generation and therefore a new nation. What did they do in the desert? Answer? They learned. They what? They learned. I thought you were here last time. Who but what was I of course they learned. I did mention that. What did I keep on saying what the difference was what the generation in the desert was and what it was going to be when they entered. What did I mention that? Anybody remember? Well, I'm going to Come on you were there. Come on. What did they What did I tell you they were going to do when they entered as opposed to what they weren't doing going into the Huh? independent society because Independence. self governing society yeah God, I'm hungry. Here's some man. Yeah, it was okay but I really wanted some meat. Here's a slab. You know it's thirsty. I'll give you some water. That was Israel in the desert. They were very very happy to take what God gave him. And from the beginning in the desert God had told them ain't going to be that way when you go in. When you go into the land of Israel you've got to do it. Remember I told you it really started at the very first months or weeks after they got out of the out of Egypt. Remember that I told you how when they being chased by the Egyptian hordes that um God and they screamed You know they were Jews. So God said to motion to tell the people I shall be with them again. God will fight it. Don't worry. But you silent. God's going to take care of it. Huh? They said that sounds good. Weeks later when Amalek comes to attack them, what does God tell them? He tells Moshe, "Go gather an army and start fighting them." Why? Why doesn't he say, "Don't worry, I'll take care of the Amalekites." They don't. Why? Because God says that's not the way life goes. You're not going to get rotten mana, you're not going to get water, you're not going to get I'm not going to do it for you. I'll help you out. I told you Ben Franklin told us all you know, God helps those who help themselves. That's what's going to happen. But you have to do it. If you don't want to do it, huh? It's your problem. I'm not going to do it for you. And that's what is happening in the whole book of Yehoshua. Remember that when Achan ben Carmi ben Zabdi made a terrible sin and he took from the the spoils of Jericho, God got very angry. Why? Because to the victor goes the spoils. That was a senator in 1825 who had said that by the way. >> [clears throat] >> And God had And they didn't fight anything and didn't win anything in Jericho in Jericho. God had done it for them. You know, the walls came tumbling down. Remember that? So they didn't win. And he and he and therefore and he but he's taking this the spoils. What Achan is saying and others seem to have agreed with him that we we deserve it. We deserve the spoils. We are victors. And you weren't. So that's why God gets so angry and there was a big punishment. That's why they lost that first battle they ever had in Ai. God said, "You took it. You think you're going to do it yourself? Go ahead. Let's see what happens." So that's a very important and I told you that over and over again and I will repeat it again. You will see because you know, it's boring and all that you know. But this is what happens. Now, why am I talking about that when it comes to the blessings and the curses? Ah, I'm glad you asked the question. It's a very good reason. I want you to see this. Um Israel in the desert were really impressed by the one of the most important things that really hit them very strongly, impacted them for many years about why they have to listen to the Torah. They had an experience, an experience by a mountain. Remember that? The Sinai thing, yeah. Before it was a hospital. This is where Benei Israel had in Har Sinai. And in Har Sinai, they all judged together, right? What's happening here in Har Ebal and Har Gerizim is another Har Sinai for a new generation. The bulk of which if that almost all of them were not there at Har Sinai. God had to give that thing impact to this generation that's going to start a new world of nation here in Israel. And that is why they had that. That's exactly And there were crucial um things that were quite quite obvious. Together, the spectacle at Har Har Sinai, right? Um >> [snorts] >> What is that they stood at the mountain and they heard the commands, right? From God. And they offered up the public offerings, the shlamim, the sacrifices. And at Sinai right afterwards it said that they had to engrave God's words on stone. Sound a little familiar to us? And what happens? Exactly the same thing. That's what they did in in Har Gerizim Har Ebal. However, and here comes the point. Har Sinai, whose voice did they hear? God's. Whose voice did they hear at Har Gerizim and Har Ebal? Who was giving the was it the Kohanim and Levi'im? Not God now. Now it's people. Now it's the people who are doing it. Um Har Gerizim and Har It it was a pretty impressive thing at Har Sinai. You had you know, the volcano-like things and there's smoke and there's fire and there's thunder and there's rumbling. Ha, pretty good. Don't have any of that in Har Gerizim Har Ebal. No divines coming down and making things, "You better do this." God says. "You're going to have to teach it. Not me." And that's what happens there. What was engraved on Har Sinai? Who engraved what? Answer? God. He engraves it on the stone. God you know. Who does it in Har Ebal Har Gerizim? The people are told they have to do it. Remember? Har Sinai. Among the things they were not permitted to do at Har Sinai, very important. And when you remember what they weren't allowed to do there? Well, they had to separate but they what were they not allowed to do? They were not to touch Har Sinai. And if you do so, pay zakoy kel or yaroy yaray. You can't touch it. You're not allowed to go on to Har Sinai. Where were the blessings and the cursing curses being done in Har Gerizim and Har Ebal? They stood on the mountains. Do you see the difference here? You realize how Unless you don't you know, unless you look clearly um clearly and carefully, you will Wait a minute. Wait. This is like Har Sinai for a new generation. But it's less God and more people. What a powerful thing. Fantastic. I'm glad I remembered this or I started looked it over. And as it so it says just to give you what was to said there. This is also from Devarim. And there [snorts] we see that um the people Moshe at and in was not there of course. He said, "This is what you're going to say when you get to Har Gerizim and Har Ebal. These are the blessings and the curses. There's no blessings here. It's only curses. But there is the assumption is the other side of that is a blessing but >> [clears throat] >> you want to He also didn't want to have the ink to run out cuz he only gave the curses and he assumed you're going to know what the verse is. But I I Again, I you see that the people who the blessing on Har Gerizim, the people who still stand on Har Gerizim will include the tribes of Shimon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, Joseph, and Benjamin. And for the curse, the following will stand on Har Ebal, Reuben, Gad, Asher, Zebulun, Dan, and Naphtali. They aren't for the They're going to both are going to be on the on on the mountains. They are then divided up. And the curses will be applied to all and the blessings applied to all but you'll be facing one and facing the other. That's how it's going to be. And then the Levites who proclaim proclaim in a loud loud voice to the entire body of Israel. And this is what it is if you're really that interested. You can see right on on the page 14 all of that that's there. It says, "Cursed be anyone who makes a sculp- a sculp- sculpted or molten image abhorred by God or hated by the shots na'im. You know, and sets it up in secret and all the people shall respond, "Amen." Cursed one who insults father and mother and everyone says, "Amen." What Cursed is one who moves a neighbor's landmark. Means steal something else you know. And they all say, "Amen." One who misdirects the blind person on his way. And that is a limit to the It means if you mislead somebody. If you mislead somebody for your own self, you know. And it isn't exactly you know, Israelis never knew and never had no how to say we don't know. You ask them directions, they'll say, "Yashar yashar." They have no idea. You're misleading them. They go over there, you know. But they didn't do it because they didn't want to because they were embarrassed to tell them I don't know. Because it's they all know everything. So, that's misleading someone. Of course, it says a blind person who has no way of knowing whether it's right or wrong. So, therefore, it's even more. Anyway, um uh one who subverts a curse is one who subverts the rights of the stranger, the fatherless, the widow, all the the less those who are unfortunately yeah, not as uh fortunately unfortunate ones. They all answer amen. One who lies with his father's wife, they all say amen. One who lies with any animal, one who lies with his sister, one who lies with his mother-in-law, one who strikes down a fellow Israelite in secret, one who accepts a bribe in the case of a murderer and an innocent person to be, you know, not good. And cursed be whoever will not uphold the terms of this teaching and observe them. And all the people shall say amen. Wow. That is a pretty pretty strong. Right, exactly right. So, this is what I wanted to say today. We had the not I touched on last time and I want you to understand why I did that. This was really a remarkable spectacle because it was meant to have an impact on a new generation who's now beginning a new world and a new time in the land of Israel and to make it clear that it's not the way it was. You got to do it yourself, guys. You've got to understand. You kind of have I can told you God had to tell to tell Mosha. Mosha told Yeshua, go out and fight. God's not going to do it for you. So, I took poor I mean Yeshua had a pretty good teacher. He was he's the coil of Mosha Abenu and then he worked for me. He's in the army. Amazing. Lucky star right now. It's in the kingdom. So, but this is precisely the difference. This is what God wants of us to do, not to just have it done. That's what's going to be a new new thing. So, that I just thought with the story of the black blessings and the curses. And now we get to the story of the Gibeonites. I believe we started that last time also. Um and there you see that the Gibeonites just quickly the synopsis I have it here in case you want to quickly look at it. First, it starts with the this is part of the battles that Yeshua now starts to go. Remember, he's got to take over the land. Again, God says, I ain't going to do it. You got to do it. You You want to have it, go. Back in the Torah it says to draw Wherever you stand, I you will take that. And wherever you go, wherever you march, I will see that you're successful and you'll win the battle. But if you ain't going to watch, if you're going to stay back and say someone's going to do it for you, it's not going to happen. It's clearly said that in the Torah. So, the give Anyway, Yeshua begins in taking over the the larger alliances and the more powerful armies that are found there. As we'll see, there's 31 kings. Don't get too impressed with kings, you know. They were barely any They were They were like a a mayor. You'll excuse that expression, too. You'll find they were the heads of the the cities. Sometimes a city will have thousands of people and that's pretty impressive. And sometimes they're smaller, but they were the heads of a city or a specific type of clans they have like Israel had tribes, so did they. You know, so on and so forth. So, and the heads of that they were called the kings. That's how it was. That's why it says the the Philistines the Philistines in the back of the back back in the Torah yet in Bereshit. And Plishtim, they said there were five kings. Five kings to one for like, yeah, because there were five larger cities. Azah and Ashtor and Ashkelon. So, anyway, um they he begins to fight as I mentioned before, understand it wasn't Yeshua's job to to conquer every single one of these enemies as you find it, but rather to put a down the threat of a strong army and put basically be able to have Israel strong enough to finish the job, which by the way, they don't do, which is why the Tanakh is not six books. It's all lonely because after Yeshua and when in the end of Yeshua and the beginning of Shoftim, we find out that the Lord words that God said to him to go and to chase out the pagans and those who won't accept them. And to them, you can go out or you can die. Um that was never done. That was never done. And therefore, from the beginning of Shoftim on, this is where all our headaches start. Every single book tells about the sins of Israel and how they have weakened and weakened and got worse, sometimes better, then the worst. But it wouldn't have happened had they done what they were supposed to. We would think the end of Yeshua or the beginning of Shoftim should end by Yakam, another leader, and he built the Bet Hamikdash. And we were all happy. End of the story. And didn't happen that way. Anyway, um part of the story so we have here with the Gibeonites. The There are people in from the town of Gibeon who knew how strong and they heard about the miracles, whether it was splitting the Yarden, whether it was the victory over Jericho, or the remarkable victory over the Ai, and also about these five powerful people. And the five There were five powerful kings which they do they allied. They hadn't started yet, but when the Gibeonites heard about this, they said, "We ain't going to stay with them. We we We know how strong they are. We can't We cannot defeat them, nor do we think that the other kings will." So, they came and they disguised themselves as people who came from afar away. Knowing that Israel was told to say all of the the those who live in this land, the aborigines, are going to have to get thrown out or accept the lack of of um shall I say not polytheism, but but about uh idolatry and paganism. Uh and and they therefore they dressed up in you know, really bad clothing and very old clothing, moldy bread, and you know, whatever canteens they had were these skin skins were old. They showed themselves of this We've been We've been marching from way of And they heard about how wonderfully your God is and we [clears throat] came here. And when Yeshua said, "Well, where are you from?" No, we we we're from far far away. You see, look how look at what we have. We have all the all the stuff. And so, they accepted him them and they said, "We will be your allies." Oh, okay. And about two three days later, they found out they were living a couple of miles away and that's where they're And they got very angry. But they had taken themselves an oath. And they had said, "We made a peace treaty. We have a treaty we cannot break because we did it in the name of God." So, in the end, the story goes on that they you are cursed and you will be still We're not going to harm you, but you will be our attendants. You will be our servants. You will be self. And you're not going to have any of these positions of power or anything. That's the story of the Gibeonites which we had gone through. Uh and to this day, it remains a question G, was he right? Was he wrong? Shouldn't they have given that agreed to it or not? Whatever. So, that was that's what's. Now, the Okay, the ongoing battles. That's where we actually had were up to last time. It's amazing how it takes me a whole class to find out what we're up to. [clears throat] Uh These are now the other battles that as I said, the bulk of of Yeshua, Sefer Yeshua, are the battles, but mostly the divisions of the the tribal divisions of the land. And that actually goes from about Parshat Bet well para cuff bet I must say a 10 11 of these things and don't worry, I'm not going to go through that. Um, but I will do is to tell you these stories about some of the battles. You can see here I have I don't need to say that the which is interesting. Um, and let's see I have time to do this at the the bottom of page 16. I think you have that, right? Yes. And hey H, yeah. When I don't need to say that the king of Jerusalem heard of Israel's victory of the eye uh, over the eye and their destruction of and the alliance with the Gibeonites, he became frightened and concerned and he gathered the kings of Eglon and Lachish and Jarmuth and Hebron and they attacked the city of Gibeon. This is part of the Gibeon story, too. They attacked the city of Gibeon and the Gibeonites called out to Joshua, their ally, for help. And with Hashem's blessing and so listen, this is interesting. God wasn't happy with the that instead of asking God should they make an alliance with them, they did anyway. But God said to them, but you made the alliance, you have to keep it. And therefore, with God's blessing, Joshua and his men left Gilgal, which is was at that point the there where they were camped. At night they surprised the five kings, thoroughly defeating them and pursuing them from the area. During the pursuit, God rained down large hailstones upon the enemy, killing multitudes of the armies outside of the Beth Horon. Everyone knows about Beth Horon. If you if if you drive if you're driving from Jerusalem up to Modi'in about middle way of that side on the right side is Beth is Horon, Beth Horon. Actually, it's this and they just they're actually increasing, also. Anyway, that's the yard. And during the attack Joshua required more time for victory, cried cried out to God and cried out actually Shemesh big of own dome the area the Emek Ayalon. I say that cuz these are very famous statements. He called out for the for the sun to stop. Uh, but the sun that was over Gibeon but the sun and the the moon that was going up on Emek Ayalon, he told them to stop. In effect, he was um, he's stopping the revolution of the earth and lengthening thereby the daytime. Interesting thing, I I heard a while ago a number of of historians and others looked through this and scientists said there was a point that for some reason they said there was a where the the timing went off in this time and where well, the day was made longer. He said they said they don't know how it happened, but we do. Anyway, um, and that's how he finished the um, the war. Eventually, Israel captured the enemy kings hiding in a cave and they hanged them to and they went and captured the cities and settled them, okay? And then I gave you just for fun the 31 of the basic kings that [clears throat] God had promised that they would give the conqueror and that Joshua did conquer and uh, [snorts] do you see where it is? >> [clears throat] >> I gave you the nice little rest and the nice I'm sorry, list that you have there and um, and what's very very interesting here cuz I'm going to have to stop before we start the division that I'm trying to remember if I I've got I didn't have it here, but yeah, I'm probably going to have to do it next time, but I I will tell you something very interesting that they it says they conquered all these things and then it mentions one thing and that is Joshua conquered these places including this place you may have heard of, Jerusalem. And it said that and then it says but Yehudah who is who was the ones who were in charge of you know, were not able to fully leave it that way and as a result, we'll go later on, it was David who had to come and conquer Jerusalem. And many say, well, well, why wouldn't he have to? They didn't in Joshua. So, well, well, we do all of Joshua. You'll see the verse that says there that at once it was conquered by David and his men, I'm sorry, by Joshua and his army, time went on, they didn't have however it was the Judeans who lived there didn't have the power to eventually get rid of the people who lived there. They were called the Jebusites. The Jebusites. And therefore, they stayed there and eventually took over. And only when David came that he was able to chase out the Jebusites. One war there. And in fact, um, we see that >> [clears throat] >> para cuff valid in Samuel bet that at the very end of the story, we have Joshua, I'm sorry, David >> [clears throat] >> who um, all of Israel was given a plague because they had start because David had allowed them to have a census and this which God does not like and they didn't do the census properly. Obviously, David, you know, lost the census. But anyway, uh, they went on and God plagued and there were plague all over and is about to attack Jerusalem. You know, David says, no, no, said give me a plague. I went on to sin. Don't my poor people, don't really my my my my sheep, he said. Please don't kill them. God was impressed. In the end, they did and he said David he stopped the plague and David so happy wanted to offer up a um, sacrifice to God to thank him at the place where he was what that stopped the plague. Where was he? On the top of this hill. Uh, and was it was it was called the place by it was what's his name? Uh, the from Jebusite. He was a Jebusite. He was a Melchizedek. He said supposedly he was and he now became Israelite and he granted them that piece of land and God David says, what do you think I am, a Jew? I'm not going to go for free. I'll pay you for it and he does that and he has it he builds a altar, gives a korban. It's very nice. And then you know what you can do? If you're looking the value I'm in bet uh, yeah, in the para gimel begins and tells us that and then Joshua begins to I'm sorry, Hamal begins to build the Beit Hamikdash at at the place of Jebusite of exactly where where it says there the Har Hamoriah which says where Moshe where David had taken over that area of Jebusite. That's where the Beit Hamikdash was built. That's just a nice ending there that the connection to you about the Jebusite. Anyway, Hashem um, next time they're going to be the division of the land by tribe and not to all the tribes, just the whole what's going to happen there that's very very interesting. Specifically, we're going to go through the story about Caleb. Remember him from he was still he's still hanging around. He's 85 years old this time now.