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Letters of the Rambam: The Letter to Rav Pinchas Hadaya | Rabbi Yitzhak Breitowitz | May 12 2026
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Uh, the last letter we were looking at
is a very, very fascinating letter
because it is a combination
of some very personal comments
along with some interesting halachic
issues and some interesting structural
issues regarding the composition of the
Mishneh Torah. One of the things that
makes the letters of the Rambam so
interesting is precisely that mixture.
You know, when I read the Mishneh Torah,
so I'm getting the Rambam's thoughts,
which are really the most important
thing, but I don't get that much of his
personality. Uh, in the letters, we have
the mixture of the personal
and the theoretical and the practical.
And in this letter to Rav Pinchas
ha-Dayan,
uh, we actually see all of these
different elements kind of mixed
together
in a very, very interesting way. Uh,
just to remind you, uh, Rav Pinchas
ha-Dayan was a member of the Bet Din of
Alexandria, which is not the Rambam's
city. The Rambam's city is Fustat, which
was, uh, the Jewish part of the Jewish
suburb of Cairo.
Alexandria
was a little bit of a distance, but
essentially, you find many, many times
that at least in the lifetime of the
Rambam, Alexandria was a satellite.
Essentially, the Rambam was their posek
and they turned to the Rambam,
uh, for for guidance. Now, interestingly
enough, Rav Pinchas,
uh, was an immigrant from Provence, from
France. So, he actually was Ashkenazi
and we don't we don't know exactly the
circumstances, but he relocated to
become, uh, the head of the Bet Din in
Alexandria.
And part of his discomfort and sometimes
complaining was simply that it was
difficult for him to integrate into a
community that was very, very different
than that which he was accustomed. And
in fact, at various points, he actually
tells the Rambam he wants to move back.
He wants to, uh, go back to France.
And the Rambam basically says, you know,
"Listen, uh, it's better here.
Uh, in France, you'll have a different
Christian persecutions. Here, at least,
things are relatively stable."
And therefore, you might as well stay.
The Rambam did encourage him to stay.
But Rav Pinchas complains that he sends
the Rambam a lot of shailos, and the
Rambam doesn't answer.
Uh, he complains that he's heard that
the Rambam called him an am ha'aretz who
doesn't know how to learn.
And he doesn't know why that is so. And
uh, the Rambam actually says, "Well,
listen, I admire you. You're a chashuve
talmid chacham. But, you know, if I get
upset sometimes, even Hillel Hazaken
would have gotten upset at some of the
things you do." Remember Hillel Hazaken,
the famous Hillel? Was very, very famous
for the fact that he never lost his
temper. He had a very, very calm
temperament. Remember the Gemara in
Shabbos gives all sorts of stories of
people who tried to get Hillel angry,
and Hillel did not get angry. In fact,
one person bet a lot of money he can get
Hillel angry.
And he lost the bet. And, uh, after the
last attempt to get Hillel angry, uh,
the person said, "There you know, there
should be no one like you, you know, you
in the world." And he said, "Why?" He
said, "Because you cost me 400 gold
pieces and the like." So, the Rambam
says that in some ways, Rav Pinchas's
behavior was so, um,
exhausting that even Hillel Hazaken
would have gotten angry, etc. And the
Rambam goes into different, different
particular issues, uh, and and the like.
Uh, but specifically, to go over some of
the main interesting points,
uh, is that, uh, one of the questions
that, uh, Pinchas Rav Pinchas asked the
Rambam
was why the Rambam does not give sources
in the Mishneh Torah. Again, this is a
bit of a review, but this is a major
issue that to this very day, to this
very day,
uh is still an issue in the study of the
Rambam. Uh the Rambam gives you no
makorot.
The Rambam just gives you halakha.
And uh starting with the earliest
commentators, the Kesef Mishneh, the
Maggid Mishneh, they all give sources,
but sometimes they'll say,
"Don't know."
And uh Rav Chaim Kanievsky, this in this
generation, supplied some sources, uh
but even he was not 100%.
So, to this day, although obviously it's
it's a smaller and smaller and smaller
percentage, but there are still various
corners of the Rambam in which there is
still not exactly a
a source. And the Rambam didn't give
sources. Uh so, number one, where did he
get it from?
But number two, without having a source,
you're not really in a position to
evaluate
the truth of his argument. If he would
say, "I am relying on this source," so
people can look at the source, and they
could see, well, maybe that's right,
maybe that's wrong. But if you don't
give us a source, then how can I even
evaluate uh whether uh what you're
saying is true. And by the way, this
argument it was made by the Raavad, Rav
Avraham ben David. I'm sorry.
Oh, okay. Rav Avraham ben David, who
himself was from Provence. Right? So,
essentially uh this was the point. Give
us the sources,
so we can determine, of course the
Raavad is very acerbic. The Raavad says,
like, you know, "Just because you said
something, that doesn't mean it's right.
Tell me why you said it, and then we'll
see if it's right." Okay, that's the way
the Raavad typically talked. Rav
Pinchas, although he exasperates the
Rambam, was a little more diplomatic. He
simply said, "We don't have the source."
So, the Rambam actually issues a bit of
an apology.
Uh Uh, the Rambam says, "Well, listen,
the whole purpose of my book
was to simplify halakha so people can
have a bottom line.
If I were to simply reintroduce all the
complexities of the Gemara,
you already have the Gemara. I mean,
what am I supposed to do? Uh, if you
want me to give you my sources, I have
to kind of
go over the whole discussion. And the
whole purpose of my book
was for people who were not always able
to follow all of these discussions to
give them a bottom line." But, the
Rambam did say that every Again, I have
I apologize for reviewing a little bit,
but it but it's been a while. The Rambam
did say that every single statement in
the Mishneh Torah comes from either the
Talmud Bavli, you know, Mishnah and
Gemara, Talmud Bavli, Talmud Yerushalmi,
uh, the Tosefta,
which is kind of an appendix to the to
the Mishnah, and then he mentions the
Sifra, which is the halakhic midrash to
Vayikra,
and the Sifrei,
which is the halakhic midrash to
Bamidbar and Devarim. Both of them are
called Sifrei. It is very, very
interesting, and people don't have a
clear answer to this, that the Rambam
does not enumerate Mekhilta, [snorts]
which is the halakhic midrash to the
book of Shemot, and why he doesn't is
very interesting. Is there some
intimation that he did not regard the
Mekhilta as a legitimate halakhic
source?
Uh, and if that's the case, why would
that be so? The Mekhilta is from the
Tannaim, just as the Sifra and the
Sifrei.
But, it is interesting that Mekhilta is
a conspicuous omission in the Rambam's
list. The Rambam then says, "Anything
that is not based on those five sources,
I will say it is from the Gaonim."
Cuz the Rambam does rulings of the
Gaonim of Babel, or he says if it's my
chiddush, and the Rambam tried not to
necessarily bring in his own chiddush,
he will say "Yera li" or "Yera eli", it
appears to me.
And the Rambam says anything that is not
directly sourced
in those materials, I will indicate
Gaon. Of course, telling me Gaonim
doesn't tell me where it is. Gaonim have
a little big literature, but at least I
will tell you. But the Rambam says the
following. Generally speaking,
the sources I I I deal with are directly
connected to the subject. So in Hilchos
Shabbos,
the Babylonian and Yerushalmi and
Tosefta sources will be in Maseches
Shabbos.
Now,
in truth, that doesn't help you so much
if you don't have a page, but but let me
let me just remind you of a very simple
point. Before the advent of printing,
Talmud could not be referred to by a
page anyway. There was no pagination.
So you had manuscripts. So the only
thing you could
you refer to is you could refer to it in
a chapter. So perek, you could say this
is in perek gimmel of Maseches Shabbos.
This is perek dalet. You couldn't say
daf ayin beis, daf sameach beis. There
was no pagination.
Right? There's no pagination in
manuscripts. The first pagination, at
least if they're not if they're scrolls.
Most manuscripts were scrolls. Some were
codexes, which are bound books.
But even then, until printing, there was
no standardization of pages.
So the Rishonim commonly, I mean the in
the modern editions of Rashba, Ritva,
Ramban, they'll put pages in
parentheses, but those are are even in
Rashi in Gemara. But but those are later
editions.
The Rishonim, all of whom were before
printing, they always refer to chapters.
They don't refer to anything more
specific than that. But the Rambam
doesn't even give you the chapter, but
the Rambam says, all right, listen, if
you know Gamorah, you know, you'll be
able to find it. But then the Rambam
says he does regret that there are times
in which a particular source was not in
the tractate
dealing with that matter.
And the Rambam says I should have noted
that. And he gives an interesting story
where one of one of the dayanim in Cairo
went over to him and showed him a
certain halacha in the Mishneh Torah
dealing with retzicha b'shogeg. Retzicha
b'shogeg is accidental homicide where
you go to the city of refuge. And the
Rambam had a certain din about that. And
he asked the Rambam, where is it?
So the Rambam automatically answered,
well, the second chapter of Maseches
Makos
deals with arei miklat.
So I assume it's in the second chapter
of Makos.
So the dayan said, I checked. Not there.
So the Rambam says, well, maybe it's in
the Talmud Yerushalmi of the second
chapter of Makos.
Check. Not there.
So the Rambam himself is fumbling. The
Rambam says this. Says, well, maybe it's
in the Tosefta of the second chapter of
Makos.
Not there.
So the Rambam is kind of stuck. He
doesn't know where it is.
And then he starts So he told the person
he'll look for it. He doesn't know where
it is. The person left. And then the
Rambam remembered it was an obscure
reference in Yevamot, a tractate having
nothing to do with the subject. Because
the nature of Talmudic study, everybody
knows this,
is that a given halacha in any area
might be embedded in a totally different
discussion.
So in Maseches Yevamot, there'll be laws
about Shabbos. In Maseches Kiddushin,
there'll be laws about Kashrus.
That's the way it is. That's why in
reality, you really cannot understand
any area of halacha. You used to say it
about secular law even.
The law is a seamless web. Well, the Kal
Vachomer, this applies to the Talmud. Uh
you don't know anything unless you know
everything.
And the Rambam said that taught him that
he regretted. He says what he should
have done is he says
that whenever a Halacha is derived from
a source which is not its natural place,
he should have noted that.
So, he wasn't suggesting he was going to
give sources for everything
because most of it is in the right
place, but he would give a source for
anything that is not in its natural
location because as he said, if even the
author could not remember the source,
how is the reader supposed to remember
the source? So, in this he actually
concedes through a Pinkas Sedan and the
Rambam said he would like to write a
companion
volume so to speak which would supply
these missing sources. As far as we
know, he did not other than this
particular interesting story,
the Rambam did not give us any
other type of of source. Although his
son did, the Rambam's only only son. The
Rambam may have had a daughter who died,
but his only son was a Rav Avraham ben
ha Rambam.
And
I won't say he was cursed because
obviously it was a tremendous blessing,
but but in a sense Rav Avraham ben ha
Rambam does not always get the
recognition
that he deserves because of the
phenomenal greatness of his father, but
Rav Avraham ben ha Rambam was an
extraordinarily great
not only Talmid Chacham, but also
religious philosopher.
In fact, he has a very profound work
on a religious philosophy
called Hamaspik Le'Avodat Hashem, the
book that is sufficient to know how to
serve God. There's actually a very
excellent English translation
that's fairly uh recent. He was kind of
a combination a little bit of almost a
mystic a philosopher at the same time.
A little a little different than his
father
uh in that uh in that way. But Avraham
ben haRambam did see a lot of his life's
work as defending his father.
Not just writing his own things. So
often uh in later correspondence,
Avraham ben haRambam supplies many of
the sources. After the Rambam's death,
people would attack and say, "Where did
the Rambam get this? And where did the
Rambam get that?" And Avraham ben
haRambam would often uh would often
supply that. Yeah. Yeah.
Um excuse my ignorance. Later
uh codifiers, like the Bet Yosef or
whatever, they did cite the sources?
Well, the Bet Yosef Well, well, the Bet
Yosef Bet Yosef No, well, the Shulchan
Aruch does not cite sources, but but
once again, the Shulchan Aruch is an
abridgement
of the huge Sefer Bet Yosef on the
Torah. And the Bet Yosef is totally
devoted to giving sources on everything.
Um Bet Yosef is phenomenal. Bet Yosef um
must have
maybe half a million sources uh in the
course of his book. So, the Shulchan
Aruch per se does not cite sources, but
again, it's all based on the Bet Yosef.
But in the Shulchan Aruch, there are
later works, like the Be'er Hagolah,
Be'er Hagrah, that give sources. By the
way, um a little thing Those of Those of
you who learn Shulchan Aruch and for
most people, it would be in the context
of the Mishna Berurah. The Mishna
Berurah
of the Chafetz Chaim is a commentary
on Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim, the first
volume of the Shulchan Aruch that deals
with tefillah, Shabbat, Yom Tov, and the
like. So,
if you look if you ever looked at a
Mishna Berurah, so you look at the top
of the page, not the Mishna Berurah
himself, but the So, the block letters
is how the Shulchan Aruch is printed,
Rabbi Yosef Caro.
And And there's Rashi script
interspersed
with the block letters and that is Rav
Moshe Rav Moshe Isserles of Krakow who
added comments to the Shulchan Aruch
because the Shulchan Aruch of Yosef Caro
typically is Sefardi and he follows
again that's an interesting rule. Yosef
Caro had kind of a rule of psak
in which he identified three Rishonim
and he went with his two out of three
rule.
Uh the three Rishonim that he identified
as preeminent was Rif
Rambam
and Rabbeinu Asher the Rosh and he went
with two out of three.
But the problem is that is stacking the
deck because Rif and Rambam are Sefardi
and they're almost always the same. The
Rosh represents Ashkenazi and he's
always the odd man out. Oh I mean when I
say always I mean like 95% of the time.
So essentially that is why Ashkenazi
psak got excluded from Rav Yosef Caro
simply because of his two out of three
rule. So Rav Moshe Isserles
the Rav of Krakow
whose yahrzeit by the way was Lag BaOmer
uh the Rama died as a young man. He was
uh I think 48. He was not yet 50 when he
was niftar. A phenomenal uh he wrote the
Ashkenazic comments to the Shulchan
Aruch. So
commonly therefore again this is a
generalization Sefardim will tend to
follow Rav Yosef Caro
and Ashkenazim will follow Rama.
Rav Ahron Yosef likes to quote the pasuk
as a joke which says says by Kriat Yam
Suf Bnei Yisrael yotzim beyad Rama. The
Jewish people left with a high hand. So
he says if you put in an aleph they
follow the Rama. Um okay. Uh but what's
interesting is
in the Shulchan Aruch of Yosef Caro
there are no sources that are given. You
can get them from the Beit Yosef, but
there are commentaries. There's like a
footnote number, and you look at Be'er
Hagolah,
etc. So, you'll get the sources. But, in
the Ramah,
you will see parentheses.
And the parentheses will indicate
sources.
So, some people mistakenly think that
the Ramah does provide
sources within the hagahot. That is
actually not true. The parentheses in
the Ramah are not from the Ramah. They
were added by editors and printers
later. So, the Ramah does not give you
sources, either.
Uh but, he had a companion work similar
to the Beit Yosef called Darkhei Moshe
on the Torah, where he gives you
sources. The reason why this is
important, this is not just a trivial
bibliographical point, is that sometimes
the paren- parenthetical sources
added in the Ramah are actually not
accurate.
And uh part of that is so because they
are not the Ramah's own sources. They
were the hypothesis of an editor who
thought that was the Ramah's source, but
sometimes that source does not support
what the Ramah is saying. The Ramah had
a had a different source. So, it's
important to kind of know these things.
And in the newer, it's really
phenomenal, the the the quality of the
new editions, I mean, if you follow
this, the new editions of sefarim that
come out
are really so so beautiful. New editions
of Shulchan Aruch, new editions of
Torah. They're not just pretty, but they
they they have all of this correction of
information and the like. I mean, even
in the Beit Yosef, as I say, the Beit
Yosef [clears throat] may have
a half a million, maybe more,
it makorot, but in the course of time,
a lot of them are off.
Or the Beit Yosef did not give you dafim
to different sefarim and the like. And
these new tours, I mean, some group of
people had to go through line by line by
line by line to supply actual page
references to all of these sources. Now,
that may be a very that may be from the
perspective of the worker, that may be
extremely tedious work. It may not
necessarily be
the most interesting work, but it is
extremely extremely valuable uh for the
learning of halacha.
The Ein Mishpat Ner Mitzvah,
I don't know who provided those.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, the Ein Mishpat
Ner Mitzvah, which was the first uh
hyperlinking pre-internet,
uh there was an Italian Rishon,
yeah, Rav Yehoshua Boaz,
who supplied a lot of the editorial
features. For example, the Torah Or,
that tells you where a pasuk is found.
He did that. Ein Mishpat Ner Mitzvah,
which gives you the citations to the
Rambam and to the Shulchan Aruch and the
Torah, he supplied. But the only thing
is the only thing is it was augmented
many many times by subsequent editors.
So, in reality,
uh his original work was only around 1/3
the size of the work that that we have
now.
So, he lived in the the 1300s.
Uh but as the Shas and different Shas
were were printed, so one of the
improvements was the augmentation.
That's why if you look at the Ein
Mishpat, you'll often see citations in
brackets.
Tho- those means those are additions,
meaning meaning the thing that's not
bracketed was the original, and then
there'll be brackets of additional work,
and you'll see that there's quite a few
brackets that were added. And even
today, new things are being added in the
Oz Vehadar Shas, there are new things
that are that are being added,
augmenting uh the Ein Mishpat uh and and
and the like. Okay. Uh but be that as it
may, it's fascinating that the Rambam
himself
concedes
that he was not able to initially
remember a source for his halakha
uh, because it was not in obvious place.
Right? This is a big problem.
Uh,
it reminds me a little bit of the Chazon
Ish. Of course, this was a different
issue. Uh, the Chazon Ish is a is again
a very very deep and complicated safer.
The Chazon Ish says there are times he
does not understand what he wrote. He
says uh, he says [laughter] uh,
he's not exactly at that same level of
understanding and he can't he cannot
follow uh, his own argument. It can
happen, right? I mean, it's hap- it's
happened to me uh, different times
uh, as as well. So, that was uh, one of
the first points [snorts] the Rambam
addresses. Then, the Rambam raises a
question. Again, forgive me for
reviewing. The Rambam raises the
interesting issue of Takkanat Ezra. Let
me talk about this a little bit because
it's somewhat relevant even to halakha.
D'oraita, under Torah law,
a person that's in a state of tumah,
whether I went to to a cemetery or or
even had a seminal emission, or a woman
is a niddah,
there is no restriction
on learning Torah and davening.
Right? Person's tamei. I learn Torah, I
daven, I count for a minyan, I go to
shul.
Man or woman.
Yeah, there is in Kabbalah a later idea
that a woman in a niddah should not look
at a sefer Torah. But even that doesn't
stop go- from going to shul
or whatever it is. And this is expressed
in the saying, Ein divrei Torah
[clears throat]
mekablin tumah.
Torah is not susceptible to impurity.
However, there was a takkanah
[clears throat]
that is very early. It was made by none
other
than Ezra
at the time of the beginning of the
second temple,
uh in which Ezra was metaken
that a man that is a ba'al keri, a man
that has had a seminal emission,
should not learn Torah, say brachos, or
daven
until they go to a mikvah.
Now, a ba'al keri, the word seminal
emission, can either be a seminal
emission or even having intercourse.
There's it's not we're not
differentiating those two situations.
But uh again,
this is a takanah that the Torah says
there's no problem, but the takanah of
Ezra is a ba'al keri cannot say brachos,
daven, or learn until he goes to the
mikvah. This is takanas Ezra. Now, the
Gemara in the third chapter of maseches
maseches brachos discusses takanas Ezra
in great detail,
but it concludes, interestingly enough,
batla
takanas Ezra. That in the course of
time, the takanas Ezra was no longer
considered to be mandatory, either
because it was hard to find a mikvah, it
was too much of a hardship. Be it as it
may, the halacha today is batla takanas
Ezra. However, in the time of the
Rishonim,
there were many who took the position
that it was better to be machmir and not
to learn Torah until you went to the
mikvah. So, the Rambam, in the Mishneh
Torah, follows the halacha of the Gemara
in brachos,
that the takanah of Ezra is nullified,
and therefore, even if a man is a ba'al
keri, either through intercourse or
otherwise, they can learn Torah. So,
apparently, in Provence,
they were critical of this psak of the
Rambam, and Rav Pinchas HaDayan says
that uh I'm sorry I'm sorry, not in
France in Alexandria in Alexandria
rather they were very very critical of
this and they went to a pinchas and they
said what type of guy is this Rambam who
is permitting all of these prohibitions
and Rapinchuk writes to the Rambam
everybody came to me all the people came
to somebody
and they complained so the Rambam said
you know I think you're exaggerating it
did everybody come
were they tell me they
remember were they a Muslim
are you kind of being a rabble-rouser by
encouraging them to raise these issues
and then the Rambam made the interesting
point that why are you complaining
where you came from in Provence
nobody kept the
Ezra see what's interesting is there's a
bit of a cross cross-cultural thing here
because
the the Gamora suck was the of Ezra was
butter
the Jews who lived in Christian
countries simply followed that rule
but many of the Jews who lived in
Islamic countries
continued to watch themselves
because that was the practice
of Muslims
so the Rambam is saying to Rapinchuk why
are you complaining
about the of the Ezra you yourself come
from a place where nobody was keeping it
and the Rambam says a lot of the people
who keep it here are doing it only
because they're imitating Muslims
and it's not the law here
but then the Rambam himself says
that I myself have always been
personally
even though I hold
it's not required so it's an interesting
issue
and now the Ezra does have a certain
meaning in see the Gamora actually says
that in lieu of a mikvah
if you pour have poured on yourself
a certain measure of water
from a a shower,
even though that is not a valid mikvah
for nida or for any type of tumah, it
would be sufficient for takanas Ezra.
So, based on this, there are some people
some men
that have for halachic reasons halachic
reasons
have the practice of taking a shower
before davening.
Not just
Huh?
Nine kavim. That's correct. Uh because
that way they could be yotzei takanas
Ezra.
This may also be partially the source of
why some chassidim go to the mikvah
before davening because of takanas Ezra,
although there are kabbalistic reasons
which are beyond takanas Ezra.
Uh but as I say, even a shower nine
kavim would be sufficient for takanas
Ezra. But these are chumras. As meikar
hadin,
we pasken batla
takanas Ezra. And the Rambam says, you
can't accuse me of doing something wrong
if I am codifying the halacha of the
Gemara even though I myself personally
am machmir.
The Rambam says he himself was
personally machmir on takanas Ezra
except when he was very sick and he
couldn't
you know, he might get a cold, he might
get sick by exposure to cold water
and and and the like. So, that's an
interesting discussion. Uh again, it it
opens up
it opens up a fascinating issue which
may be a little controversial and that
is to what extent
does Jewish religious practice
reflect
what non-Jewish
practices are.
Uh I'll give you another example. I'm
just throwing this out. I I'm not saying
it as an assertion. The idea of Rabbeinu
Gershom
in the uh the 11th century banned, he
and his base din, banned male polygamy,
that a man cannot have more than one
wife. And Rabbeinu Gershom's
jurisdiction only extends to Ashkenazi
countries and not Sephardic countries.
And therefore, Sephardim me 'ikar din
were permitted to have more than one
wife. Now, it's interesting that in 1948
upon the establishment of the state of
Israel
there was a chozeh, there was an
agreement between the Rav Harashi, the
Ashkenazi Rav Harashi, who was Rav
Herzog.
Like Rav Kook was pre-medina, but Rav
Herzog was the first Rav Harashi, the
the namesake of the president, Yitzhak
Herzog.
And the Sephardic Chief Rabbi who was
Rav Uziel
and they agreed to certain
standardizations of practice.
So, one of their standardizations was
Sephardim gave up polygamy
except for grandfathered people who came
came with two wives, some old Yemenites.
And Sephardim also gave up yibbum. You
know, Ashkenazim do not practice yibbum.
If a man dies without children we even
if they both want to marry
we do not allow yibbum, we only allow
chalitza, the removal of the shoe.
Sephardim do allow yibbum, but they gave
up yibbum. So, this was a 1948 chozeh
where Sephardim from a kabbal the
cheirem of Rabbeinu Gershom. Uh but back
in the '70s, when Rav Ovadia Yosef
was the Sephardic Rav Harashi he claimed
Rav Uziel did not have the right to
surrender
the halachic prerogatives of Sephardim.
And he made his point. Rav Ovadia was a
brilliant talmid chacham, but also a
very astute politician with Shas and the
like. And he said, "How come when
it's typical how come whenever you have
Ashkenazim and Sephardim making Jose,
it's always the Sephardim giving up
something like what did the Ashkenazim,
you know, surrender and the like?" And
he said that Rabbeinu Gershom even as
Rav Gershom did not have the right
to surrender. So, Rav Ovadia said
Sephardim can practice even. Now, I
don't think he said polygamy because
that's against the law of the state of
Israel. So, he didn't but but I think
the logic of his remarks would be even
polygamy
would be permitted as as well.
But be that as it may, some historians
have suggested
that
Muslims did practice polygamy,
Christians did not.
So, as a result, part of what motivated
Rabbeinu Gershom was
that for the Jewish people to engage in
a practice that the Christians regarded
as immoral
would have been a chillul Hashem.
As opposed to Islamic countries,
polygamy was acceptable practice. It
would not be a chillul. Now, again, I am
not saying this as as a fact, but it is
a speculation that the Christian versus
Muslim practice may have been a factor
in the cherem of Rabbeinu Gershom. And
the Rambam suggests that the chumras of
many people, not himself, he was being
machmir because he wanted to be machmir,
but the obsession that some people had
with washing themselves was more of an
Islamic borrowing than it was
than it was based on halakha. Okay.
Now,
he then gets into a whole bunch of
things and again it's a little
unfortunate that he refers to like
personal stories and he doesn't really
give us the detail and even the
annotators of the letters don't give us
the detail, but apparently there was
kind of a nasty divorce
that the Rambam was involved in
where where refused to give a get or a
man was arguing about property, and um
this was the occasion where when where
Pinchas says to the Rambam,
"Did you accuse me of being ignorant?
Did you say I was an am ha'aretz? Did
you say I don't know how to pasken?"
So, the Rambam said, "Well, not not
really.
But, I all I said was that when it came
to practical adjudication of halakha,
uh people from Provence just did don't
have the experience that we have here uh
in Egypt, simply because Christians
did not give Jewish communities judicial
autonomy
over lawsuits.
So, therefore, you're more familiar with
kashrut laws and the like, and you're
not familiar with the adjudication of
money, but he says, "Don't feel bad, you
know, just like we're not so familiar
with korbanot
>> [snorts]
>> or beit hamikdash, because we don't have
the experience, so you're not so
familiar with monetary adjudications
and the like. But, I didn't say you were
ignorant, I just said that
[clears throat] you may have may perhaps
you lack some familiarity in the
practical psak halakhot." The Rambam was
trying to be relatively
uh gentle uh gentle there, but the the
the particular monetary issue is an
interesting issue, actually.
>> [snorts]
>> And that is
uh when a woman gets married,
so it used to be, so I mean, maybe still
today, too, but depends on the
circumstance, a woman brings a dowry
into the marriage.
Okay?
Could be a big dowry, could be a small
dowry.
But, according to the law of the Gemara,
there are two different forms
the dowry can take.
One
is called niksei melog,
and the other is called niksei tson
barzel. Now, these are Both of these are
strange terms. Niksei melog [snorts]
means property that is plucked. To be
molek
is to pluck the feathers off a chicken.
Nichsei tson barzel means property which
are iron sheep.
Now, what's the difference?
Nichsei Melug basically means
the property that she brings in belongs
to her,
but the husband gets the peyros. So,
let's say she brings in a field.
If she brings in a field that's Nichsei
Melug,
the field is her property. The husband
cannot sell it or the like,
but the husband has the right to the
produce
for the duration of the marriage.
And at the end of the marriage, when he
dies or if he divorces her, she gets the
field.
And it makes no difference if the field
appreciates
or the field depreciates.
And this can apply to a whole bunch of
things. She owns an apartment or an
apartment building.
If she brings it in as Nichsei Melug,
the husband has the right to the rental
income.
But she owns that building.
And at the end of when he dies or
whatever, she owns that building.
Or a bank account.
He cannot withdraw money from the bank
account. I mean, he would withdraw the
principal, but he would be entitled to
the interest.
This is called Nichsei Melug. Do you
understand the idea? He gets to pluck
it,
but she owns the chicken.
Now, Nichsei Melug
means she gets the benefit
of appreciation,
but she bears the risk
of depreciation. And indeed, if the
property gets destroyed,
she gets nothing at all.
Yeah. Then
if he dies, then
the children would get the
income?
No. No. No. No. The The right of peiros
is not an inheritable right. So, when he
dies, it terminates and she gets she
owns everything at that point.
Okay, it is not it does not go to the
ocean. Now, nichsei tzon barzel
is the opposite. She brings in the dowry
and it actually becomes the absolute
property of the husband.
But, the husband has a commitment
to reimburse her
at the full value as of the date that
she brought it in.
Which means, in other words,
>> [snorts]
>> she is guaranteed, upon his death, and
this is in addition to the ketubah. She
is guaranteed, upon his death,
a right to be paid
the value of the property
that
on the day that she brought it in.
And this is called iron sheep because
it's like a sheep that doesn't die,
meaning it's a guaranteed
reimbursement. But, that does mean that
does mean that she does not get the
benefit of appreciation,
nor does she suffer the risk of
depreciation
or destruction.
So, these are two different There are
other ways, too, but these are two basic
ways the Gemara recognizes a woman can
bring a dowry into a marriage. Now,
which way will be done depends on the
woman and her father.
The husband doesn't decide. The woman,
really her father normally, they decide
should this be a nichsei tzon barzel
arrangement
or should it be a nichsei melog
arrangement?
You see that there's benefits and
and disadvantages to each system.
Nichsei melog
gives her the benefit of
but the risks of destruction
and uh depreciation. Nichsei on barzel
gives her a guaranteed return
of the value of the property
uh but she loses the benefits of the
appreciation if it goes up. All right,
so if she brought in an apartment
building
that generates rental income
and at the time that she brought it into
the marriage it was worth a million
dollars
but in the lifetime of the husband it
appreciated to five million dollars.
Upon his death or he divorces her if
that's the case, she is entitled to a
guaranteed million dollars
but she does not get the benefit of the
four million dollar appreciation and
that will go to the auction, that will
go to the heirs of the Now again, all of
this can be changed by wills and other
other things that and I'm not suggesting
this is the only possible arrangement.
In fact, it may sound very strange to
you. This is normally not the
arrangement. But in the absence of Jose
and wills and other types of documents
these are the two types of
dowry regulations. By the way
um
not in the Rambam's time but in later in
Ashkenazi communities
there was a major concern
about uh dowries
uh because in those days
people died relatively young and uh
particularly women would die in
childbirth uh and the like. So, there
was a major major concern. What is the I
I've been discussing malog and tson
barzel when the husband dies.
But let's look at it when the wife dies.
When the wife dies, it makes no
difference if it's tson barzel or malog,
husband gets it.
Right? A husband inherits his wife.
So, there was a real concern that some
people have is a woman brings in a
million dollars or whatever the currency
is, million dollars of dowry,
she dies 3 months later.
So, the husband, you know, gets
everything, even though the marriage was
a very short duration.
So, according to the Rambam, that's the
way the halakha is. The Rambam had does
not recognize any modification
to the basic rule. Even if they're
married for 1 day, husband inherits
whatever she owns. But, the Rishonim in
France and Germany
were very concerned with the unfairness.
So, they actually created takanot,
which are like sliding scales. Meaning
to say, the amount that the husband
inherits depends on the duration of the
marriage. So, they would say something
like, I don't remember the exact
numbers, but it varied from place to
place, but it would be something like,
um,
if they're married for less than a year,
husband only gets 20%
of her dowry upon her death, the rest
goes back to her father. Uh, if it's 1
year to 5 years, it goes up to 50%. In
other words, there was a notion that a
dowry had to be refunded
uh, if the marriage until the marriage
reached, I think, 5 years.
You know, it vested after 5 years
at a hundred at a hundred percent.
That's very, very interesting. Uh, but
these are takanot. This is not the law
of the Talmud, and the Rambam did not
either hear of these takanot or the
Rambam did not recognize them. The
Rambam simply follows, uh, the law.
Okay. But, going back to the scenario of
the husband dying, we have the
distinction between nichsei melug
and nichsei tson barzel. So, here is Rav
Pinchas's
I don't want to say mistake, it's not
for me to say, but that what the Rambam
regarded as egregious error.
There was this husband
who accepted a dowry
as nichsei tson barzel,
uh, which basically means he does get
the benefit of appreciation.
But the property depreciated.
So it was his position
that as long as he gives her back the
property,
she can't complain. Meaning her right to
a guaranteed return is only if the
property is destroyed, but not if it's
in.
So his position was, I'll give her back
what she brought in.
What is she complaining about?
And Rabbeinu Tam says, "Ah, that's okay.
That makes sense."
And the Rambam says, "No, no, no, no,
no. You're forgetting the whole
difference between say Malog and say
zone barzel. Say zone barzel, uh if the
property depreciates, that is the
husband's problem. And the fact that
it's See, he was trying to say, "Well,
if the property gets destroyed, I get
it. The husband has to pay. But if the
property is here, why can't he just give
it back?" Rambam says, "No. She has the
right to demand full monetary
compensation." And then he said, "But I
understand that you didn't have
experience adjudicating these cases, so
I'm not so I'm not so rough on you."
Okay. Uh so that was that issue. And
again, uh as I say, it's uh
it's should be part of your general
knowledge to be aware of Malog
and
zone barzel and the like. Okay. Um the
fancy legal term for those who want a
fancy English legal term is
uh she owns the principal and the
husband gets the usufruct.
The usufruct
means that literally fruit payos
actually, he gets the use of the income
or the payos that are generated from
that principal. Yeah.
>> That's a lot of
money today because
let's say she brings a million dollars,
but now a million dollars is not worth
anything more.
Yeah, well, I obviously obviously a a
major issue is going to be currency
rates and currency exchanges and how do
you compute that? Uh by the way, it is
very very fascinating that um
the shkalim are actually suffering now
because we have
on some on some level the shkalim a
strong shekel
comparatively weak dollar.
Uh that actually means that a a dollar
converts to less
shkalim. Now, that's good for someone
who has shkalim, but when you have
yeshivas that are getting money
in dollars
and they have to turn it into shkalim
they're actually getting much less. I I
saw an article from someone who who runs
the fundraising of a yeshiva. Uh he said
it's costing them right now a half a
million dollar loss per year just
because of the conversion
conversion rate. So, it's interesting
that
sometimes things which are an advantage
in one part of our lives turn out to be
a very very serious disadvantage. I
mean, people don't even think of that,
but the truth is a dollar is worth much
less
in Israel uh right right right now.
Um okay. I mean, this was a problem that
South Africa has had for a long time,
but now even even the even you know, the
United States is
facing this uh facing this issue. Okay.
Now, a second issue and again, these
some of these are technical issues, so
I'm kind of almost using this as a
halakhic shiur.
Our a very very thin and I'll just
introduce it cuz I'll I'll cover it next
week. Uh is the law of tenai. Now, this
is a fascinating area of halakha. The
word tenai means condition.
And all of this goes back
to the end of the book of Bamidbar.
After the Jewish people
waged war
against Sihon Melech Emori and Og
Melech Bashan east of the Jordan so they
conquered a lot of territory east of the
Arden, which are not within the Halakhic
boundaries
of Eretz Israel.
And we have the famous case
of two tribes.
It was not initially two and a half, two
tribes, Reuben and Gad,
who had a lot of cattle, and this was
very fertile
pasture land.
And they basically said to Moshe, "Hey,
we would love to settle here
because this is good land for our
pastures, for our flocks."
And Moshe gave them
a tremendously harsh mussar shmooze,
which
may be highly relevant to the army
situation today. I don't want to get
into the politics, but Moshe Rabbeinu
says, "Your brethren are going to cross
the Arden and go to war.
And you're going to be here?
You're going to be easy? We conquered
this land, and you're going to get the
benefit of what we did.
And they're going to go out and fight.
How can that be?"
Rav Luchshtein
as if when I would have used to always
use these pesukim as the philosophical
basis of Hester. I mean, he would use
these pesukim very, very, very often to
the need to share the burden in Am
Yisrael. Okay, but I don't want I don't
want to get into that particular issue.
Uh but I want to get into it for a
Well, it's a side point vis-a-vis this,
but it's the it's the point the Rambam
talks about, and that is
they then promised Moshe Rabbeinu
that they will leave their wives and
children and flocks
east of the Jordan, and they will go and
fight with Bnei Yisrael. And indeed,
they kept that promise. There's even a
perek at the end of Sefer Yehoshua,
after seven years of fighting,
there's a whole ceremony of honorable
discharge, like a military ceremony, in
where Yehoshua recognizes that they
fulfilled their responsibility, and they
are now able to go
back to their homes. So they did fulfill
their responsibility, but in the Torah
Moshe Rabbeinu said the following. Moshe
Rabbeinu made a condition.
We I am giving you this land
on the condition
that you go and you participate and you
fight.
And if you don't
go and participate and you fight the
conveyance to you is null and void.
It's interesting what would happen. It's
an interesting question. So what would
then happen? Apparently the land would
be divided among all the tribes. Just
would have been appended
to Eretz Yisrael.
So this was a conveyance
on a condition.
And from this act
the Halakha derives a huge concept that
all transactions
may be made subject to conditions.
I can I sell you my house on the
condition that I make Aliyah within 6
months.
Or I sell you my house on the condition
I mean this is common in every contract
that you get a mortgage.
Now within a month.
This is called tenai.
And the way tenai works is if the tenai
is mukuyam
the transaction is valid.
If the tenai is not mukuyam
the transaction is null and void.
And how do we know Halakhically
transactions can be made on conditions?
We know it from Bnei Gad
u'vnei Reuven.
Okay, so that's that's actually the
source. I I know that people read it
their their their mind probably
[clears throat] gravitates to hester
issues because that's so relevant on the
news today. But beside the Gamara, the
Gamara uses the story of Ben Ego and Ben
Reuben
to illustrate the halachot
of tanai.
Now, tanai can obviously be used for
conveyance of property.
But do you know you can even do marriage
and divorce on tanai.
There are a number of mishnayot in
kiddushin. A man marries a woman says,
"I am marrying you on the condition
what could either be I'm a kohen or
you're a kohenet or whatever it would
be. And what that actually means is
if the condition is not fulfilled,
there's no marriage. You don't need a
get. In fact, maybe I'll I'll
I'll let's discuss this next week. This
has been suggested as a potential
solution
for agunot problems. Agunah is the
problem of a woman
whose husband refuses to give her a get.
Well, how about this? How about under
the chuppah
when he marries his wife,
he says the following.
Hare
at mikudeshet li betabatu
kidat Moshe veYisrael. The whole
sentence you are betrothed to me in
accordance with with this ring in
accordance with the laws of Moshe Moshe
and Yisrael
on the condition
that if you ever demand a get,
I will give you a get within 30 days.
If you ever Now, what How will that help
an agunah?
That will help an agunah because if the
husband does not give her a get after
demand within 30 days, they were never
married.
Do a kiddushin on a condition.
Even if the condition will not be
determined until 50 years later,
it will retroactively
annul the marriage. So, some have
actually suggested
let's make
Today, we don't do conditional marriage.
It would be too complicated, but
theoretically, it can be done. There are
numerous Mishnayots
which talk about conditional
marriages.
And could this be a solution for the
agunah?
I don't want to leave you with the with
the assumption that it can be. The
bottom line is it cannot be. But I'll
discuss next week briefly why this is
not a solution. Yeah.
Yes. Yes. Yes. A woman can make the same
A woman can make her own conditions. A
woman can say
I accept
marriage
on the condition that you get a job.
Uh
That's a big one. Yeah.
Well,
that's what they say. They There's a
joke, you know,
why I shouldn't say jokes about Yeshiva
I'm making jokes about my own, so I
think it's okay.
Why many Yeshiva don't learn Tanakh.
They're scared off by the book of Job.
But anyway,
but I'm okay.
Uh
yeah. Anyway, but but but so again,
the reason I'm bringing up tenaim is
because the Rambam in this interesting
letter
has a very interesting discussion of
tenaim. So, I need to give you some
background just to understand his very
brief discussion. We'll continue this
next week and we'll see what the Rambam
does.