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Korach and the Art of Taking by Rabbi Yossi Goldin
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good morning
everybody uh but just before I begin
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closer I was just moving it back just
because of people on the on the sides
but I will try to I'll try to project
I'll try to speak loudly so what I
wanted to do today is again we're
continuing uh parat shavua um trying to
to find some a meaningful idea from this
from the para this week's para there's a
lot a lot to talk about um one of the
things that that I wanted to stress now
and that is important for us to keep in
mind it's something that that that i'
that I've learned from my father my
father likes to talk about a lot
specifically when it comes to safer B
midbar is that whenever you're learning
Kash particularly this is really true of
sabar we have to really make sure and
remember that we're that we're that
we're reading the story on two different
levels okay the first level of course is
the actual text itself the actual
narrative as it unfolds um as we're as
we're reading about Amel benel as
they're in the midbar um continuing
through the desert on their way to to
erit Isel but there's another level um
and that is of course that Torah is
meant to speak to every single
generation that this journey that am
Israel are taking throughout the midbar
the the their their Journey from harini
doesn't just launch their own Journey
but it launches the Journey of am Israel
throughout the ages and of course the
Torah has relevance the stories of the
Torah have relevance not just for the
for the for the generation in the midbar
but for us as well and so what I wanted
to keep in mind as we are going through
the uh this the topic that we're going
to discuss today is to really understand
how many of the messages that we're
going to learn from this story very much
connect to today as well and what I want
to do is I want to kind of use as a
jumping off point we're going to be
talking about the story of korak the
situation with korak what exactly was
korak looking for what was korak trying
to accomplish I'd like to use as a
jumping point a very interesting anomaly
in the very beginning of the para if you
look with me please at source number one
we're going to read the first fim just
to kind of set the stage for the story
the Torah tells us in Source number one
the beginning of this week's
para and Kor the son of the son of the
son of Le and and the the sons of el and
the sons of
Ru and they stood in front of mhe and
another group of people another group of
men from benel 250 princes of the
congregation men of importance an means
these are men of
importance they gathered in front of
Moshe and
and they said to M this is a lot for you
again the exact translation of is is is
an interesting discussion for our
purposes they're basically accusing
Moshe and Aon of taking too much
power the entire nation the entire
Community is
Holy and God is amongst
us why are you raising yourselves up
against the the congregation okay so
this is the claim the main claim that
kak that's the way it's referred to kak
and his congregation or his group they
claim they come they face they challenge
Moshe and Aon now let's take a look
again those few first first couple of
psuk Kim there's one major question
really a technical question that that
comes out from the first two psuk Kim
that jump that all the maim jump on and
it's fascinating to see the very
creative answers that they give and
we're going to use those answers as a
jumping point to really understand the
story of
K the son of took and the
son and and they stood up in front of
Moshe what's the what's the question
technical question very very technical
question that arises from the first P
what did he take okay what did he take
it says
as as as very often the the the refer
to it says that K and seemingly other
people took but it doesn't say what they
took what exactly did they take we know
that they stood up in front of Moshe
what did they take and the all the Maan
deal with this with this question in one
way or another and it's fascinating to
see the creative and very important
answers that are suggested by the m so
the first one I want us I want us to
look at is tarum unus okay unus gives
uncus is a translation from the Torah
into Aramaic and sometimes in through
his translation he will explain certain
parts or certain questions he doesn't
necessarily mention the question but
just by the way that he explains the
words in the Torah he gives us an
explanation so says what is how does it
Describe the word
says and korak literally means korak
divided okay the word it in Aramaic word
means like half or division so korak
says says unus somehow divided something
what exactly does this mean so Rashi on
the spot explains what what what what
unus is suggesting is that when it says
that korak took it means korak took
himself korak took himself out of the
community korak took himself out of the
community if you look very very briefly
I'll read it I'll read it inside very
quickly I'm sorry that it they're a
little out of order says Rashi what does
mean SCE number
six he took himself to one side in order
to be divided or in order to separate
himself in order to then question
the he separated himself in order to
create argument in order to create okay
so explanation number one is what does
it mean it means K took himself he
separated himself he took himself out of
the community in order to create the
chaos that he would like to begin to sew
so what let now let's understand what
okay if that's what korak did if that's
what korak did if what korak ultimately
did was create division so why doesn't
the Torah just say division what's the
significance of
saying what what according to unas and
according to rash let's try to
understand what exactly is significant
by the fact that the Torah uses the
word it could have just said and korak
argued or and Kor created
division what do you mean excellent
correct or a created doubt good
excellent perhaps what the Torah is
suggesting according to unus is that the
best way to begin to se doubt or to
create any kind of div any any kind of
uh challenge is you first have to create
Vision step number one to any kind of
any any kind of any kind of challenge
that you're going to make to Authority
or any kind of whatever is you first
need to see yourself and remove yourself
and anybody else that you want to be a
part of that and say it's us and it's
them us us and Them us against them
we're not with them that's beginning
stages to creating Rebellion that's the
beginning stages to challenging
Authority you have to start that process
by says I now want to challenge
authority the way I need to do that is
not from within I need to separate
myself I need to take myself out of it
show that it's US versus them and anyone
who wants to follow me has to has to
believe in that dichotomy and only then
can I then challenge The Authority okay
so that's one one um interesting message
that we're seeing already just from this
just from this strange anomaly in the in
the language you look at source number
three the Mish suggests a different
approach here doesn't mean mean that he
took himself rather says the medish
means he took others using words but
look at source number three says the
M it's the usage of very soft persuasive
language whenever the Torah wants to
tell somebody to convince somebody else
to do something to go somewhere very
often the language would be take them
here take them that doesn't mean you
should physically pick them up and bring
them it means talk to them and convince
them persuade them continues the
m so what was the Tor when the Torah
says it means that K who is this
referring to this is referring to say
says the M the
250 the K and his group were successful
in convincing to join it okay because it
says
was K and it was and they all got
together and they convinced this group
of 250 people to join
them says the M very often when the
Torah wants to tell somebody else to
command somebody to do something the
phrase that's used
is doesn't necessarily always mean a
physical taking sometimes it can mean
The Power of Words the power of
persuasion and that's what that's what K
kak did kak went around according to Mid
he went through the camp and he started
saying you think this is for me this is
really for you come join me come join me
come join me so according to this
interpretation just basic even though
the Torah is not 100% accurate in how
it's explaining it it's referring to the
fact that korak and his men I.E
Kor went around and brought and
persuaded all these people the
250 to join to join his cause his
explanation number one was K took
himself separated himself explanation
number two is what did who did korak
take what did korak take he took the
people how did he do so using the power
of persuasion again what's the
significance Why didn't it just
say why does it say they use the
word why does the Torah use the word
often when it's referring to
persuasion perhaps is to show us the
power of persuasion that we often assume
that when when we refer to the phrase
taking we assume it means to physically
take something or take somebody from one
place to the next and what the Torah is
highlighting for us here is the power of
persuasion is the power of the spoken
word that there are certain people who
have a certain kak and they have an
ability sometimes to get people to do
things that maybe they couldn't have
done in a physical Way by physically
doing something with them but the power
of the the power of the spoken word is
incredibly strong and that's what korak
was very good at korak was very good at
convincing people this isn't for me this
is for you come join me and that's what
the mid says and andash points this out
as well that this was
actually korak taking everybody but
there's a but there is another technical
question which is if korak andan and own
they were all involved in persuading
these people to join there's a technical
another technical question on the pasuk
what does the PUK say it's singular it's
singular it says Okay question number
one was what who did he take number two
simple implication of the p is that
korak wasn't the only one doing the
taking who else was doing the taking and
a so why does it say why does it say
singular so I want I want us to think
about that question that's a big
question according to this explanation
according to this explanation that a
group of people were were persuading the
250 people to join them why does it say
Vin singular we're going to get to that
soon there's a fascinating explanation
that the nav gives to why the phrase
opened with and puts it all on korak as
opposed to implicating implicating
everybody the in Source number five
agrees with the basic explanation that
meant persuasion of words but because of
this challenge with the with with the
singular he changes it and he says that
this was really korak convincing the
other people in the so Source number
five what does
mean it's a language to Bringing people
persuading
people who did k
it was the introduction the beginning of
this story was not was korak first going
to then going toet and then only after
that getting the other 250 people to
join to join him in the p and says and
say if you're going to ask me that
doesn't fit in the P because the p
says says
you have extra vves sometimes in the
Torah sometimes the V here is not what
we would call it wasn't specific and
therefore in this case it was korak who
took them and that's what the PK is
talking again a little bit of of a
technical point between between the rash
and thei but according to this
explanation so far we've seen two
explanations by K one was korak took
himself out of the equation korak took
himself out of the situation in order to
create the Rebellion that he was about
to create
and Source number two suggestion number
two was what is he used the power of
persuasion to convince people to join
him either it was him in a group
convincing the 250 men to join him or it
was korak himself going around and
convincing all of them to join us and
the language of aak is to show us the
power of the spoken word and the power
and the power of persuasion the ramban
does not like this explanation the
ramban in Source number seven argues and
he says means something else does
doesn't mean taking yourself out doesn't
just mean uh like like we said here to
create div
Vision says the ra raan goes through all
the different explanations and he says
this this is not does not fit
in what does it mean it doesn't mean
that he created division it means that
he listened to his
heart says the ran the language of is a
language of when a person pays attention
to their inner desires and to their what
we would call and their different and
the different uh different types of
desires says the M says the
he trusted his conscience korak in his
mind knew that he was that that he was
justified in in this Rebellion he felt
that there was a certain a lack of
justification for what was happening and
he said and and that and he was
basically the best way the best way to
understand it is his heart basically
pushed him to do something he had this
TAA for power he had this t or he was
frustrated with the situation and just
basically means that korak listened
listened to his heart
good question good question okay what
did he say he asked what about DUS V
meaning good he doesn't the r doesn't
doesn't reference the language and all
some some of the technical points that
we're raising you're right some of deal
with different questions and it's a very
good we're going to get to in a second
but what we've seen so far is that
different explanations all seem to point
to korak as being the main the initial
instigator and then somehow bringing
in and then eventually they bring in the
other 250 people but this exact question
the question of are they all the same or
are they all different actually leads
the NV to make an astounding an
astounding suggestion the NV was very
bothered by this entire process he says
if you look at this entire story we keep
grouping together this whole group that
we call korak and his group okay who do
we have say said you have to remember
there are different groups here you have
korak then you have datan a who we know
from previous situations you have this
new person on Ben pelis who we don't
really know so well kind of new the
story and then the other people who join
this Rebellion are these
250 and the question that many M ask is
do they all have the same concerns or do
they all have the same challenges or is
this just kind of like a a uh a
Confluence of convenient of of of
convenient claims they just happen to
come to a a a coalition the best way to
say is a coalition of convenience is
this a coalition of convenience where
they all happen to have claims against
Moshe rinu and Aron or are they all on
the same page says say if you look pay
attention very carefully to the way the
story plays out to the different
punishments that each of them receive
that shows that they were all on very in
very different places they all joined
but this was what we would call a
coalition of convenience but even more
than that some of them says argue that
it's if even had
different reasons for why they were
meaning different even had what we would
call laudable intentions positive
intentions says the the following in
Source number eight so first he explains
explains the word to mean taking with
words so he joins those who say just
meant they were persuaded but then says
that this is something
astounding Source number eight it's a
little bit long we'll read pieces of it
but it's an amazing thing that He
suggests
says if you look at the language it's
very clear from the language because of
the V that were part of the instigators
they were the ones being convinced they
were part of the instigators the P
says so says the back to the the
question we
asked what should it say it shouldn't
say it should
say why doesn't it say why does it say
you have to understand something very
very important regarding this parasha
we'll we'll we'll speak louder than them
we'll uh we'll try to we'll try to drown
them out
okay definitely frustrating definitely
annoying but we're going to be we're not
going to let it stop us okay continues
the the different parts of this m if you
follow along how they join the m
and the punishment they
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receive means the 250 men if you look
carefully you're going to see that
there's three groups there's korak and
his intentions there's and their
intentions he doesn't discuss own I
guess we would put own probably similar
to and then you have the 200 50 people
and each of them come to this not just
for different reasons but have
almost different entirely different
intentions in terms of positive
intentions versus negative intentions he
says if you look at what happens later
when it comes to the bringing of the
incense following this incident the only
people who bring the incense are korak
and the 250 what about
and on some level God gives a certain
amount of respect to the 250 men that he
doesn't give to korak and and as he
points out later who who are the ones
who die with with with with with with
the land opening up and swallowing K but
not the 250 men so why are they getting
different punishments therefore says
then we now the four The Fifth
Line he says therefore we must suggest
the 250 men who join this Rebellion they
were
actually and they had the best of
intentions they weren't joining this in
order to question his authority or to in
order as a power grab like K and and and
says why did these 250 people join
because they knew that in order to get
the closest
possible
to you have to be a Cohen and they were
so they had so they were on such a high
level they had with it says he says Bo
it was burning within them this desire
to achieve the highest closeness to
that they were going to do whatever they
could in order to become kohanim and
therefore even though they knew that
mosha was right and they knew that what
they were doing but there was almost as
if a person be the the best way that I
can describe is like religious zealotry
a person becomes so connected or the
desire to connect to spirituality that
they almost lose sight or they lose a
certain understanding of what's right
and what's wrong and that's what drove
these 250 men it was what we would call
a holy type of uh Rebellion Rebellion
thank you a holy rebellion and therefore
he
says sorry the means never justify
correct correct again they were wrong
but what he's arguing is is that their
intentions were totally different than
korak and everybody else they were all
Co they were not kohanim but they wanted
to be kohanim they were they were people
who had a burning desire to achieve the
level of kuna because that was to them
the the the the the the Apex of
connection to a
that was the Pinnacle of coming to and
therefore their challenge in rebelling
here was not because they wanted power
it wasn't a power grab it was what he
would call says the nativ an a
legitimate and sincere desire to become
as close to God as they could and they
felt that this was the best way to do
that and that's why he
says this wasn't for honor and this
wasn't because they wanted to achieve a
certain
level they wanted to use theun as a way
to come as close as possible to a so
they want God to change his mind they
it's a good question it's a good
question meaning what what again I think
what is highlighting here is that
sometimes people have the purest
intentions and I still sometimes cause
them you want to call it religious
zealotry you want to call it some kind
of a lost perspective sometimes people
can be can get a certain level and that
itself that that level itself causes
them to lose if they're not grounded
enough in reality or in what's going on
to lose perspective they it came from a
totally different place it came from a
good place but they got blinded 100%
they got blinded and then he even
continues to
say they knew that mosha was correct
that mosha what mosha was saying was
correct they shouldn't be challenging
mosha they knew that it was wrong what
they were doing
meaning they basically were just they
were so full of love for hasem that they
took it to the extreme in a negative way
and that caused them to sin so says and
then the continues and suggests that was
the 250 men then you
hadan says who they were rabal rousers
that we know says that we know that they
were coming from a totally different
place they always wanted to make
problems they were just looking to
create problems and therefore it's true
that the 250 men connected with but that
was more out of convenience than
anything else you had the 250 men they
came from a place of wanting to connect
to then you
have who were just problem makers they
were the ones who everyone knew were
going to make the problems they were
always there any problem that ever
happened to is they were there and then
you had korak who was korak so korak had
the potential to be like the 250 men and
on some level people sometimes might
have seen him and he might have appeared
to people to be like the 250 but
internally he had negative he had
negative intentions it was all a
paragraph for him he wasn't the pro the
problem maker that he wasn't one who was
always around but in this case it came
from an internal faulty understanding
and a desire for power and so says the
you have these three different groups
and then the goes on to this we're not
going to do it inside just because of
just because of time then the goes on to
describe that you had these three
different groups and each one needed the
other because the 250 men they wanted to
achieve this Kahuna in order to achieve
the highest level of closeness to God
but they weren't problem people they
couldn't they couldn't create a
rebellion on their own so who do they
attach themselves
to who were problem people but needed
people to join them so everybody like we
said before was a coalition of
convenience you had these three
different groups you had korak you had
the T A you had the 250 men who all had
different intentions and different
desires and different levels of what
they were thinking what they wanted and
they only came together for one reason
that was was convenient because this was
the best way to achieve what they wanted
to achieve says why does the Torah open
up with as opposed to korak and because
kak was the main instigator the Torah
wants to show us this all started with
korak korak was a master at finding the
different groups that were going to be
able to join him for different reasons
in order to create the problems that he
wanted to create in order to achieve his
own his own goals yes um I want
understand why if they were really toing
and they really wanted to be the the 250
wanted to be get as close as they could
and their intentions were so good and
positive and they were on such a
level why would they agree to go with
somebody who is obvious to them uh not
and you well they kind of got blinded
but something doesn't so it's it's an
excellent question and by the way he's
the first person I've seen to say to
make this suggestion it's a it's a
mikash suggestion I mean the simple
understanding is these 250 people were
were people who wanted want who also
wanted power but but he based on
different parts of the text he makes the
suggestion and I think I think what the
N is saying is exactly what I've said
before is there's different there's
different ways that people sometimes
will will make mistakes some people make
mistakes because or or or or will will
will make wrong decisions or create
problems sometimes that will happen out
of what we would call negative
intentions negative desires I want power
I want this I want that you also have
people who sometimes are so to The Other
Extreme they're they're so blinded by
the spirituality that they're not
grounded enough in reality and and and
that can happen as well and I'm sure
we've all seen examples of of
individuals who that say they get into
they get they become for they become
religious not necessarily balua even but
they get caught up in the tidal wave of
spirituality and what we would
call that if that if that desire if that
spiritual desire isn't grounded in a
certain sense of reality it can take
them in different locations different
places um and I think that's what
happened here was that they just got
swept up in that in that in that what
what what he refers to as this aatm and
this desire for that they weren't
grounded in the reality of that has to
happen in a certain way and it can't
just happen in any way that you want to
and you can't just you know the way he
even says it they were willing to
sacrifice themselves on the altar out of
their love for Hashem which means that
there was something not healthy about
about the way that they were doing that
and we've seen that in our lives I'm
sure we've seen different types of
different there's some people who
sometimes get swept up in a certain
spiritual Vigor that if it's not
grounded in a certain reality it can it
can be very very dangerous and that's I
think what happened here um and that's
what happened to these 200 again we'll
never really know but that's my
understanding of what the NV what the NV
is saying okay so what we've seen here
so far is again a few different varied
to different interpretations according
to This n the is pointing out that this
entire what we call k k and his group
were actually varied people it was VAR
different groups different people coming
a coalition of convenience coming from
very very different places in fact isn't
the only one who says this a number of
of other point out the same thing the uh
the uh sare in Source number nine also
suggests that each of the group each of
the members of the group had different
reasons for why they were revolting he
doesn't say things as Extreme as the but
he also points out that this was really
a coalition of
convenience ver number
nine they didn't all want one this
wasn't like a principled uh Rebellion
where they all had one main goal one
main purpose this was everyone coming
together anyone who wanted to question
Moshe anyone wanted the challenge MOS
all came
together it wasn't all for one
thing Ron the 250 people they were they
were originally
firstborn the 250 people were
complaining because soon after Matan
Toro was when after was when God
replaced the with theim and they weren't
happy about that they said that's not
fair why should why should we lose out
in our ability to Ser in the why they
were they were rebelling about
that and that's why they had to get some
of and
then and they were complaining because
their forefather Ru was the real Bor and
what had yov done yov had replaced Ru
with y so therefore you had all these
different disparate people coming and
arguing ruin was coming people from ru
were coming and saying why you why why
is our shave at losing out on getting
the getting the leadership you had the
coming in saying why sh Le getting the
leadership ironically where's korak from
shave Ley so if anything the 250 people
korak is coming and saying why are you
getting it I should get it with within
shet Ley and the 250 people who are
coming and supporting korak themselves
didn't want korak to have it either
because they were they were claiming the
should have it so what you see here is
not just not just a coalition of
convenience you have competing interests
all coming together to create this
create this
problem he just want wanted to
ARG were just coming to create
problems they all took their each
individual interest and came together so
we have two different interpret you have
the and by the way there's many others
who come and explain the similar idea
that K were not a unified front and this
understanding explains something very
very interesting in P aot which many of
you may be familiar with there's a
fascinating mission in P aot that raises
a fundamental question that we can now
answer the and mentions this
the discusses what is considered to
be and what
is what is what is a that's for that the
heaven of God for the name of for for
for for God and what is not says the
source number
10 any which is for the sake of heaven
will ultimately
continue will exist will continue to
exist and which is
not it is not will not ultimately be
able to continue to exist says the
mishna
what is a prime example
of that we see between H and Sh and
between and Shai where they respect each
other they're both searching for the
truth they're both striving to find the
right the right the correct answer the
correct that says the m is a classic
example
of what is
this is the of korak and his and his now
there's some there's something very
inconsistent here in this mishna what's
the inconsistency in this Mish it's not
against excellent
excellent you brought the two sides H
and
Sh if we want to bring that par continue
that parallel
to should be and who is the other side
of K
MOS why does the M and call
it so many there's many different
answers that are given many point out
that what this shows and is highlighting
is that even
korak were ultimately going to
be against each other that even though
had korak been successful had korak been
successful in his Rebellion against
Moshe and Aon soon after that Rebellion
what would have happened to that group
to that to that Coalition of convenience
it would have it would have broken
easily into different groups they would
have started fighting with each other so
it really was korak against those who
are with him because they weren't United
on principle they were United out of
convenience and would have very very
quickly turned into turning against
turning against each other I think again
when we think about lessons for today
I'm sure we could many of us can give
many different types of examples I don't
want to get we're not going to get into
any political or any anything of that
sort but these we see this often and
it's not it's we we see it we see it in
in our leadership in this country and in
all countries and it's not again I'm not
here to say right or wrong but how often
do we see this example of people just
jumping on the bandwagon to cause
rebellion in different different circles
right or wrong out of convenience more
than out of anything else and whereas we
used to or We should strive for a
society where our Unity is based on
certain principles and of course we can
disagree but we can what we focus on is
what we agree on as opposed to focusing
on who we don't like or what we don't
like without really dealing with the
issues we see this already starting from
the time of korak um and and and and
applying until today yes the Torah and
the commentaries seem to be focusing
entirely as I see it on
and what is the role of L pellet it's a
good question it's a good question um
and and again I would say it even more
than that the challenging part about om
pellet is that he seems to disappear
from the story he appears in the
beginning of the story and then he seems
to disappear from the story so rashi
rashi quotes a medish Rashi quotes the
medish that eventually oh did the right
thing then listen to his wife and which
maybe we all do and his wife convinced
him to stop his wife convinced him to to
so it's a good question and again I
didn't do the prop I can't say I have a
range understanding of a range of of
opinions about it omell seems to be
someone who was in the beginning swept
up um according to different
interpretations he was son of Ruan so if
you want to underst understand that way
that maybe he was part of this Ruan
group that wanted to get more power that
was jealous if you want to take theam
s's approach that he was jealous and at
some point his wife said to him like
this isn't going to work and he and he W
and he just disappears now does he he
could have then turned around and and
and and taken mha side but doesn't he
just kind of slowly disappears and from
what we understand he he didn't continue
and therefore he wasn't punished that
seems to be the simple understanding
because he he didn't because he didn't
continue in the Rebellion at some point
he wisened up why his wife according to
the medish his wife basically Rashi
quotes his quotes a medis that his wife
basically said to him this is not a
smart thing to get to get involved in
and and convinced him not not to
continue in the Rebellion yes at some
point I don't know where or how I heard
that his wife in order to dissuade him
uncovered her hair and no one could come
in to get him at at his okay that could
be that that sounds like the medish it
sounds like another medish or the same
medish it could be I haven't seen I
don't believe Rashi quotes that full
story but I wouldn't be surprised if
that meaning she took drastic measures
to to kind of get him to to see to see
something that very well could be yes
but where was Aron in all of this he was
The Peacemaker he couldn't go it's a
great question Aron is there we see in
the very beginning that Aron was called
was was is part of it they're
challenging Aron Aon is very much a part
of the story um it seems to be it see it
seems it seems to be that there's a
limit even to that that sometimes you
have people who come with a certain
agenda and there you know PE even peace
or a peacemaker can only work when the
two sides have some kind of rut Zone to
do that again that's my own
understanding but that's what it that
that that's what it seems to be okay so
let's continue on in our conversation
we've seen a number of different
interpretations of what exactly what
does V mean I want to share with you a
few more interpretations that I think
also again bring out new sides to the
story and new understandings to the
story that are very very relevant for
today we started with what is what did K
take so many point out point to a
well-known medish that kak took certain
objects what objects take look at source
number
10 that says the M what's the partial
right before this the end of last week's
para starts to talk about the para
ofit so what does tiit have to do with
this story
of so what it says he actually took
certain objects and that was part of his
challenge to M this is a a well
wellknown
mid he got up and he grabbed and he gr
to MOS
said if I have a baged a garment that is
made of made of the color blue do I have
to then tie the strings on it and mosha
said according to
yes of course that's what
says that makes no
sense if the whole thing is made of
that's not going to Potter it from the
tit but you only having the the four
strings that's what makes the difference
says that makes no sense motion your
arguments your arguments make no sense
and then he
continued if you have a house is full
of is
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it which is you still need even if your
house is full
of if all the Torah all the different
are in the house that's not going to
absolve the house of then putting one
para or one para in the missa that's
what's going to solve it said korak this
makes no sense and according to this mid
korak was challenging what was the main
Rebellion here what we would call a
challenge of moshe's authority he was
challenging moshe's Authority he was
coming and saying Moshe the that you've
been telling us makes no sense in one of
his most famous famous drot um given
many many years ago salic describes
korak's Rebellion as what he calls the
common sense Rebellion against H
Authority I brought for you here again
it's a long piece that I it's a much
longer piece than what I brought for you
here but again The Echoes of the
challenges that we're hearing that were
back then and are echoed and by the way
elvic was saying this 30 years ago 35
years ago and the relevance of that
today is something that I think is is
frightening but yet uh preent look at
source number 11 it says was elvic
korak's argument was all about common
sense Jews would defer only to recognize
Torah scholars in the interpretation of
Jewish
today many individuals claim the right
to exercise their own common sense in
determining the relevance and format of
contemporary Judaism despite the fact
that they are hardly biblical until
mutic Scholars synagogue ritual
committees and popular magazine articles
debate the continued usefulness of
various religious practices and explore
the possibilities of reformulating
Judaism in line with modern thought
these self-styled pokim concede their
lack of formal training in Jewish text
and sources but they insist nonetheless
on their right to decide fundamental
religious questions on the basis of
Common Sense this is not a recent
phenomenon say salich it dates back to
the earliest period of Jewish history to
the very generation which received the
Torah from
Hari not long after that event the Torah
relates korak led a rebellion against
Moshe and kazal and kazal implies sorry
that he sought to replace Moshe as the
teacher and leader of Israel korak
publicly challenged the H competency of
Moshe and ridiculed his interpretation
of Jewish law as being contrary to
Elementary reason and again the r then
goes on to describe what happened we
skip I skipped that for you but we know
that he brought the mza and he said why
do I need a muza if that's a house
fullest FM or why do I need the strings
if it's if it's a tittis full of full of
continues now we know that every
Rebellion against Authority needs an
ideology to arouse the fervor of the
people and sustain its momentum it needs
a slogan or a motto which projects a
noble ideal to replace the Intolerable
status quo the rallying C cry which
korak chose was Common Sense he
proclaimed that all reasonable people
have the right to interpret Jewish law
according to their best understanding
for all the community Are Holy he
claimed if k Kim then they all are on
the same level to determine whether
something makes sense or doesn't make
sense in down to earth Logic the
lowliest wood cutter is the equal of
Moshe this appeal to populism evokes
considerable support because it promises
freedom from centralized Authority it
flatters the people's common common
intelligence and it approves the right
of each Jew or group of Jews to follow
their own individual judgment Cesar salv
korak was an intelligent man the me says
P he would have certainly conceived
there were specialized field in which
only experts who have studied
extensively over many years are entitled
to be recognized as authorities today
reasonable people can see the authority
of mathemati mathematicians physicists
and physicians in their areas of
expertise and would not think of
challenging them merely on the basis of
Common Sense by the way I think that's
changed even today people do that right
even in those fields nowadays people
will say well that doesn't make much
sense to me so I'm not going to listen
to The Physicians or the physicists but
but back then at least it was it was
considered acceptable so why then are so
many well-intentioned people ready to
question the authority of the Torah
scholar the lamdan in his area of
specialized knowledge and then again
this is a much longer piece but I want I
wanted to bring some of the main points
what was korak's basis what was korak
challenging why did he suggest that
Common Sense has to make sense so says
salich korak was committed to the
doctrine of religious subjectiv
subjectivism which regards one's
personal feelings as Primary in the
religious experience God requires the
heart thear
says and it is in the mysterious
recesses of his personality that man
meets his maker the mitzvot by contrast
are physical acts which reflect the
inner quests the hidden feelings of
religious emotion the Mitzvah is an
external form of a spiritual experience
each inner experience has its external
correlate in the form of particular
mitzvot on the basis of korak's theory
the Mitzvah would have to correspond to
the mood that prompts it the value of
the Mitzvah is not to be found in its
performance but in its subjective impact
upon the person its ability to arouse a
devotional State of Mind basically it
says Sal for korak it was all about how
I feel does the Mitzvah make sense to me
does the Mitzvah feel good to me do I
feel good when I do
it in Judaism it is the Mitzvah which
initiates religious experience of course
we want that experience of course we
want to feel good but we start with we
do the Mitzvah we do the Commandments we
follow the and then we hope that through
a proper understanding of that that will
then bring about the the impact that
we're looking for the H legal system as
a as a has its own methodology mode of
analysis conceptualized rationale even
as to mathematics and physics similarly
oral law has his own epistem
epistemological approach which can be
understood only by a lamdon who has
mastered it methodology and it's
abundant material I want to just clarify
this doesn't mean that we don't have
that everybody doesn't have what to gain
from studying Torah we all can gain from
studying Torah we all can gain from
learning Tor we all what to add to Torah
but when it comes to making making big
decisions regarding areas of what's
considered appropriate what's not
considered appropriate we have to says
and this is what kak was argu against
recognize the Torah Authority now again
who are the Torah authorities that we
follow that might be a big debate and
that might be some of that people have
to find their own authority that they
believe has studied the Torah long
enough to be able to give them a certain
perspective on things but for every
single person to come in and say well
this doesn't make sense to me and this
doesn't make sense to me that's sayic
that is that was korak's argument the
common sense Rebellion against Torah
Authority was coming and saying this
doesn't make sense what you're saying
doesn't make sense and therefore I'm
going to outright reject it that says
salich is again is shows a lack of
understanding of the whole world the
whole Corpus of of
Hal just as mathematics is more than a
group of equations and physics is more
than a collection of natural laws so to
the is more than a compilation of
religious laws it has its own logos and
method of thinking and is an autonomous
self-integrated system the need not make
Common Sense anymore the mathematics and
scientific conceptualized systems need
to accommodate themselves to Common
Sense last paragraph uh before before we
before we move on when when people talk
of a meaningful of unfreezing or of
empirical Al they are basically
proposing korak's approach lacking a a
knowledge of methodology which could
only be achieved through extensive study
they instead apply Common Sense
reasoning which is replete with
platitudes and cliches as in
Aristotelian physics they judge
phenomena solely from surface
appearances and not and and note only
the subjective sensations of the
worshippers this data approach is not
tolerated in science and it should not
receive serious Credence in such
statements are pseudo statements lacking
sophistication about de relationships
and meanings okay as I said this was one
of R's most famous drot that he gave
where he suggested that korak was
representing the common argument against
H by saying this doesn't make sense and
every single person have the ability to
and to to decide and we believed just as
in other areas of study in other areas
of expertise and a person needs to send
a certain amount of Years Learning
mastering and understanding the text in
order to be able to make the proper
conclusions regarding Hal applies to the
Common Man and Torah Torah is certainly
relevant to every single one of us in so
many different ways but when it comes to
making decisions on especially big
decisions those have to be left to the
authorities to the Torah authorities
just like we would in all other in all
other fields
so that is another approach that we've
seen which was the approach of he took
objects he challenged them he went and
took things and went to motion and said
this doesn't make sense I'd like to
share with you two more approaches and I
know we're we're getting close to the
end of time so we're going to go a
little bit quicker two other approaches
one my father suggested and one
from my father points out that he said
that what is perhaps we can suggest the
following idea K
took by taking it means he took he
picked and chose the things that he
wanted to say as my father points out he
says it here I left at number 12 here
korak's Rebellion it's in the end of the
first paragraph is dangerous not because
it was devoid of truth but because it
was a manipulation of Truth real real
understanding of what happened here was
korak came and said things that were
true everyone is true that is true
that's a true statement everything that
that whole statement that said was right
but then K took it a step further and
said because we're all holy therefore
we're all equal therefore we all are the
same and you can't have a leadership
role that I can't have and so korak's
danger was what does he mean by and took
kak picked and chose aspects of Truth in
order to them shape them and form them
in the way that he wanted in order to
take so the danger was if he had said
something that was entirely false from
the beginning no one would have listened
to him why did they listen to him
because he started with the truth he
started with the things that made sense
he started with something that was
true and then he said and therefore
why should you be chosen the answer is
we are all holy we all are holy in the
realm as my father distinguishes between
relationship and role in the realm of in
the realm of relationship we all have a
relationship withes we all are holy we
all can have a relationship with but in
the realm of role our jobs within the
Jewish Community we can't all be the
same we can't all be mo by definition
everybody certain roles are given to
certain people by different
circumstances at Birth and that's a
reality which we face and just because
we're all holy doesn't mean we also are
all the same in our in when it comes to
our role and that was the
danger was korak came and again
something that I think Echoes to us in
today's world where people will take
aspects of Truth and then use that to
manipulate the truth in order to achieve
a certain agenda that they're trying to
achieve something that cored as well and
rers ends will end with rers his opening
statement was what does K mean it's it's
more a statement a description of korak
then it is a statement of a korak did
who was korak korak was a taker say
first there are givers and there are
takers in this world and korak is
showing korak's whole concern all he
cared about in this right now in this
whole story was himself his own
authority his own power and therefore
the Torah introduces this entire story
with he didn't take anything specific
what he did was his whole personality
his whole Essence his whole goal was to
take and that's why the Torah opens up
with v korak because it's describing
korak's mentality as he enters uh as as
as we begin this story so we saw a
number of different interpretations for
what the word can mean um can mean many
different things not going to go over
them because of because of time what
we've seen here again is that is that
even just one small anomaly in the
Pim a whole range of interpretations
each of them sharing with us tremendous
wisdom that was relevant both back then
and also relevant to us today thank you
all wishing everybody a wonderful week