How is Chanukah Connected to Succot? By Rabbi Neil Winkler

uh actually where I spent some some real hours yesterday trying to polish it up and to hopefully give it in such a way that it is understandable because it is a little complicated and in order to make it understandable and easily uh shall we say uh taken in um it took a while and uh I very happy to say that I I worked very hard and having looked at over now I don't think it helped at all but any rate uh you will tell me if it has helped or not I suppose the best topic for this lecture is a topic I would I would uh entitle it as what better yet how is kanuka connected to sukot one is seven other one is eight exactly I'm saying what how is it connected I'm going to show you that it is connected theal say it's connected and I'll show you how and why and even in the text in the tanak it seems to say it's connected but why how and I hopefully we'll bring the proofs as to why kazal see very powerfully the connection between the two uh shall we call them uh celebratory um festivals oh okay so maybe we call so there you go into a whole how many days is to C answer seven and uh as we say is is is a literally an an how can I better best put it it stands by itself it's an independent and in fact even in the Torah when you look in at the end of where it goes through all the um all of theot for the for the uh there it says uh the all of the details of the Corban note of su it goes in and it goes through all of them you know it says the first day the second day third day and then it says next thing it doesn't say it stands by itself it is independent on the other hand there's a simple question it's the Eighth Day of what why call The Eighth Day if it's not connected to the seven before so it's a very very interesting position that it has this it is an it is itself an independent uh holay seemingly from many areas in many areas different cor and so on and so forth on the other hand get the the day and you can only be the Eighth Day of sod so there is a connection but it is Independence we won't go through that now but I did a good job of taking over five minutes of your time um but it you know what part of the problems that I have is that so much I want to tell you I want to say to you and I have to be worried about the time so uh I do apologize if I'm making to long but um really I don't care now we are gonna go on to um the real problem here I just said that it seems to be connected hanuka and sukot and it's a strange reason why let me show you first of all in which way do I tell you that it's it shows that there is certainly a connection on sukot we read a half Torah okay the Tor is taken from the eighth chapter of MIM and there you see in the very first source that I've shared with you where it says says says the entire body of Israel gathered before Kingo um at the Feast of sukot in the month ofanim that is the seventh month let me explain to you again I'm taking I'm going off but there's a lot of a lot of um information that's nice for you to know if you didn't know it um and if you didn't know it I'll review it to you the names of our the the months that we use are not really Hebrew we that the gamar says it very clearly the mishna says it and that is the names of they took from B they AR HEB I mean think about it you know the the sixth month is called elol what do you think that sounds like elel right do you know what tamuz is look inale I'm sure you've read it maybe not when God takes over and he sees a vision of what's happening in the BET mikash before it was destroyed in effect God explaining toel why it has to be destroyed he says he and there are the women who are mot crying over because in their worship of the tamuz tamuz wasar was was a pig and yet that's the name of the but we do have four Hebrew names that we know in the time of tanak one of them is is the month of thean uh number of reasons why it's called aan that's TI by the way and many say because thean you know you see that also uh time is one the the forefathers were born anyway so that's one and then we have also here in in um we have was called huh what bu I think I think that's what it is I think it is BU that's correct from right yeah yeah yeah stop um oh stop it how do I stop you um from the word Maul uh correct but it's not because it isn't the Hebrew word is Hebrew word maybe from Ab whatever but it is the second is called bu and according to one of the when when the um flood began and some did it says and that that's counting from the another one is called um you know what that is that said clearly the Torah that's and and that's n that's Nan is of course and that and believe it or not the next month we called is called in again the tanes that's a Hebrew word you know what a z is it's it means glow a light or ER or z z that's what it's called so anyway those are the Hebrew ones but the the other ones are actually Babylonian it's sometimes frightening to even think about that like I told you T but nonetheless they kept those names for whatever reason and any rate um here we read that um they all gathered in in they are celebrating guess what the completion and the should I say the dirty word kanuka the dedication of the of the first temple that's what they did and they did it for 14 days as you will see um Soo and all of Israel with him great assemblage uh observed The Feast at that time before our God seven days and again seven days 14 days in all and you think they have calculators that yeah so that's 14 days 7 plus 7even that's one thing right and on the eighth day he let the people go they B the king goodbye and went to their homes joyful and glad of heart over the goodness that Hashem had shown to David even though David was gone this was a fruition of his dream to build aash and to Israel so what eating on okay you see he's very smart he knows what the gamar says uh according to the we you find out this 14 days began on the seventh day of so that's what he said well it's 14 days and it ends on uh you know that's actually yeah really because it was the E day was after that and if that's the case it means that it was also celebration over y lost their jobs to doer they weren't happening so says you see where it says here there was that Israel was so happy for over the goodness Hashem had shown to them the goodness was that he ABS absolved them or he said I'm going to give you um atonement even without your observance of where this year because of the great thing the the the dedication of the very first okay so there you have it it was seven 14 days yeah but in the eighth day so already we seeing a little but you know eighth day but it's read [Music] on so already we see that at least over the days of Suk there was a dedication of the bdash and a celebration of the dedication of bdash would seem that the Torah the tanak is sort of hinting although hasn't happened yet seventh eight days and uh it's just uh pretty unbelievable that there's also a dedication many many years later um of um a a um red rededication of mikdash and it is uh for eight days all right so there's one then you have have of course the uh the source from the gar in Shabbat which I may have touched upon last time but I'm really going to read this is no actually last time I just gave about the story of um the of of the battle of the non battle but here the gamar there asks the question about uh my kanaka and then it goes in what about the laws of khaka it's found in the peric of because it's about the M the lighting also of once mentioning sh okay we all like like candles also on and that's what it's about and there it says the following one fulfills the Mitzvah of kanka Lights with one candle per household I hate to tell you this and don't tell any of the retailers all you need is one candle for the entire family each day one candle no more okay or on a higher level mahadin then each one in the family lights one light each so not just one only not not just the household but everybody in the house everyone the family lights one candle every single day night of kanuka ah but when it comes mahadin men mahrin that's what the B says about their food uh it is the most highest level then B Shai says well you one lights eight lights on the first night and subtracts one each night you go from eight down to one you won't know no and says we begin with one light on the first night and we add one light each night and it's might have from one to eight that's what we do of course right I'm sure you all heard this disagreement fine so the gumar goes on to discuss some things and at the end it says what's the reason for different why do they have different opinions about this why shouldn't you go up I sounds one the first night two the second night it's great you look up at somebody's window and said oh I forgot it's the third night tonight you know why do you have to do it Opposite so it says two Scholars disagree regarding the reason one explains that b followed the order of sacrifices offered each day of su where when you go and see the the bull bulock that is offered it goes from 13 to 12 through 11 to 10 to 9 to 8 to seven those are the seven days it goes down he says you haven't do that should like the candles of hanuka going down whereas want to explain that b follow the general practice that we must intensify increase not decrease sanctity males you go higher and higher and higher right more sense sure after a couple thousand years of of doing it that way it makes more sense you know and ask God why does he has us going down on the on the cor note andot either way my point is not what makes sense or not what makes sense and I agree with you is that one to A5 why would sh insist you have to connect it to what to what the heck is the connection from kanuk to what does he say that's what's important so there's another thing interesting connection but why why was that the that we read and interesting very interesting so we're going to go on somewhat I thought it's complicated uh but uh Journey yeah let's say you have 300 in your's only one do you like all 300 you can sure uh best if they put it in different Windows even bet that's the best thing gar in fact in shabas discusses that and says in those days again you had you L it outside before they came back to and now people put it outside those little boxes that they will work anyway um you can it says if you have two doors on different different directions in your house you know yeah yeah then you have to light on each door because otherwise people pass by say there's a door he doesn't have any Han he's not doing it but and they don't know that it's the same house on the other side so yes you do absolutely there's nothing wrong take more than that yeah okay now um so that's what we have in the Torah in and then we get to more or less what I had uh touched upon uh last week about Haag and the ra and the um the later ra um the later prophets who there were three prophets who prophesied during Zar and and zakar lived in the earlier part of B just when they had and actually had not yet built by so it was right after they returned from B and they now were challenged with building a b mikash and the second temple of course and that is when I I read this of course uh last time I didn't even get the the uh the English one because I had given the English the last time and two because I forgot anyway the Hai tells us the story and he says that on the second year of the reign of dares Darius Darius was uh right after the great Cirus the great koresh who was the one who allowed the Jews to return to and to build the mikash DAR was his was his successor and was very uh um I would say none I would say I know who he was very very positive toward exactly that to have the Jews return and have them build B which was very important by the way because when the Samaritans came and complained that ah they're building a temple they're obviously they're trying to rebel against you and fortunately they brought out the the papers and in effect the documents which proved that both KES and told him to tell the Jews to return and to build anyway here it was in the sixth month of um the year the the second year what yes we discussed that last time and you did that's right you did and it could very well be especially because he was so positive about the return of Jews yeah so Ken Z I think that's why Kaz thought that it was the same one um so it says the first day it was Roes of the sixth month sixth month by the way is El the first day and um that's when the first prophecy was given by God To Hai okay and to of course the yosua and he say you might recall what I said he said I know these people here these rures who aren't very wealthy and who are challenged I know it's a tough thing but I also know what they're thinking and he says I know what they're thinking I know what they're saying they say it's really not a good time now to build the mikash you know you haven't got the money it's a little more difficult and then he says but it's a good time for you to comfortably sit in your wood paneled homes in other words it wasn't just little uh little tents with the branches on top they had nice homes they had already built with and means they were actually panel with the you know that 40 years ago everybody did that also now they said burns down the house but not happy uh and so but that again huh panel panel rather than just having Raw Stone um while at my house is now destroyed but you can have a fancy house as he says therefore let me tell you what God is telling you I know it's going to be hard just start it go up to the mountains cut down the wood and start building right and you'll see I will be very pleased with it and find glory in the whatever you build because they also were concerned that how can they build remember the concern was not only there concern was they remember the b b the first temple especially after Herod had uh rebuilt it it was a glorious magnificent they say was one of the seven um world of Wonders and and the ancient the ancient world was a phenomenal here they're coming back how are they going to be able to take all the gold that had gathered and put in the mikdash and all the absolute unbelievable things that they had thear s discusses it unreal and now they're coming back like how are we going to build that now when we had the money H you know it's not a good time wait what God saying is I understand what you feel that way but just start I'll be happy with whatever you build so that was what they they said well very happy and um this was a challenge that they said that they that they they faced when they came back to be rebuild the B mikdash and by doing so bringing God's God's holy presence back to you and the reassurance and the reassurance that God gives them then that he would be comforted and he would be very very happy and glorified with what they build and he and also as the prophets said the streets of yush now because of that will eventually be redeemed and be filled with children again this is a um prophecy that we hear here from other from yo we hear from yes the concept of the destroyed Y which of course y himself saw because he lived through the destruction of the temple the dream that not only it's going to be building and there will be children running there and and and brides and grooms there that's that's exactly what of course those phrases are found three times in yo twice of them it says loow oh never again will you see that but once it says you will see this okay um when that happens the idea and the dream of we're going to have children running in the streets that's that's a I hope you understand how important that is think back to 19 to 1946 and think of the do they dream that that only would this be a a monop a a metrop metropolitan area H but children will be here little young children the the survivors after of Holocaust when they finally got out they said if they found a child don't read a book of what happened when with you know 12 so when he was found as an eighty an eight-year-old survived they picked him up on their shoulders they danced with him they didn't think that any young po person could could live and go through the Holocaust and here the promise is they're going to be children dancing in the streets what a phenomenal promise for that generation we're spoiled you know we don't if you understand what the generation was going through that is a promise that's absolutely unbelievable that's what right so again was the the older one of the prophets post the uh return and uh as we learned last time there was a reluctance of the people to build up and a per pervading a feeling of weakness and inability to do anything and that's why we find in in the um eventual uh later on that uh God really says very very difficult words to this generation because it seems that they were they didn't move right away to rebuild and I think I have it over here in the fifth the fourth or fifth in the fifth uh Source where yeah uh and where God is telling them through kagi because they hadn't yet built or they started and they stopped he says you've been expecting much but you've been getting little and when you bring whatever you know fruits and vegetables you home I'm going to blow it away all the really it's talking about the grain says God I'm GNA blow it away said why because my house lies in Ruins while you all hurry to your own houses and that is why the skies above you will H you have withheld their moisture and the Earth has withheld yield that's a powerful threat of God and so Zu Zu and yua high priest were the leaders of Israel when they returned the first time was a great grandson of the lasto the last king of um Judah and um they finally listen to the Summons of God and to the words of Haag and hasem roused their Spirit and the high priest and Joshua and the rest of the people and they came to set to work on the beam mikdash on the 24th day of the sixth month the second year in other words when God told them on the first of elol build you know everything they said okay yeah and they didn't do it and they probably got together a committee that had sit together nothing was happening but the 24th God had said what are you doing why haven't you built anything yet so on the 24th he threatens them and now they say okay okay okay and they start building [Music] um that threat moved them to do what they had to do and when you think about it what was the reaction when they came to building let's say the first bet mikash they were reluctant to build the second bet mikash they found excuses that they were even suffering and I understand but think about the difference and when you see here in the uh fourth Source how David reacted David reacted on the bottom of that first page says when King David was settled in his Palace and Hashem had granted him safety from all the animals or animals enemies around him the king said to the prophet Natan here I am dwelling in the house of Cedar while the Ark of Hashem abides in the tent he says the exact opposite he said how is it that I have he had a Palace built to him built by the Phoenicians who had been very impressed with d as a warrior and he becomes the king and they wanted to have very good relations with this new powerful King to the South and so the Phoenicians uh did a gift that brought down there they were the master um carpenters and they had the seeders of Le on even before it was a hospital and he had them bring down these and it's fascinating how theak tells us in well how they actually floated on rafts floated the the um logs and went B down to the port in um Israel and and then from there they brought it to Y and that's how they built it and and they built his Palace for David David had a palace that was Phoenician built by the why again I have enough time for me to say this it was fascinating that about 15 20 years ago great just passed away FR uh archaeologist was was um digging in ear David the real ear David and she found this huge wall very big after digging the and was in the it was first C it was in the um first 10,000 years approximately uh which is a time of a little of David that that that era and she found it and she said this was probably either either from his Palace or from the uh the the sourc you know the basement of it where they kept the wines and stuff like that and of course the archaeologist many of them who hate to have anything that would actually what the T the tanak says says who do you how do you know know she said you're right it could cannot be maybe it is it's just a maybe but I'll tell you something it's the only proof of Phoenician architecture within 1002 200 kilometers from here it's never came down this low so if you can find wall around here with Phoenician things except for this one maybe but it is the only one and this is what it says in tanak that the Phoenicians came and built this so fascinating stuff at any rate so here is he says that wasn't right he couldn't build a before because the Torah says very clearly in only when only after God has given you peace security um from uh your around the enemies and you're sitting safely and securely then you can stop building and exactly that was written in um the here inel it says and after d was D succeeded in defeating the nebor neighboring and not only defeating them but he now controlled them and he had peace around he said okay now he goes the prophet says okay now I got the peace and I got security the Torah says we got to build a you I had nice P because the the you know the Phoenicians built it for me but but but about God they had no house it was in a tent the the Aron the holy Ark was in a tent that was it he said we got to build something and yet here it is when God says build the second says M I know if he can and everything so it's remarkable difference and that is what God was so upset about and that is why uh he had to threaten them with what was happening anyway this does impact the people finally and and sure enough they do begin to build the BET mikdash and that we see and I'm going to show you in the sixth about and this is from Ezra now Ezra comes a little after um kagay uh and uh he comes with a second amount of people coming from B it is much much less than what zuel and yua brought but they brought some I think 1500 about people from bavel came back and it says here um when the seventh month arrived the Israelites uh being settled in their towns the entire people assembled as one to Jerusalem then yahushua and the other priests and and his brothers built the altar of God to offer burnt uh offerings uh offerings and uh offered burnt offerings on each morning and evening now this is from the book of Ezra but it's talking about before Ezra arrives he's Works about and what happened during the time of Zu which what I spoke about as soon as they came from B and that's why I wanted include this again an information you should know they they started not building a mikdash but they started offering how do you do that because the M was not destroyed the altar of the be mikdash still stood I they had a couple Nails here and there and stuff like that but you know and therefore as soon as they got there they started offering corbano to God we don't have the building we don't have the gold and we don't have all the fancy stuff but we have the so they started offering even at the very beginning before they had a mikash and that's what they did right and they celebrated the Festival of suko with its daily offerings on each day as is commanded they came in TI they they settled down and the first thing they did is offer corbon not on sukot they didn't build it yet but sukot was the time that they build it and when the builders had laid the foundation of the temple priests and their vestments with trumpets Levites and simples were stationed to keep praise to Hashem and as king of um of Israel had ordained they sang songs of stoling and praising God kto that's what it means guess where that comes from that's what says that d H told them to do that it's from Hal Hal said and that's I love these things this comes couple hundred years after they live and they're saying this is what they were singing when they came back and the people raised a great s sh extoling Hashem because the foundation the mdash had been laid so it says here that when it was we don't know but it was in the time of many of the priests and Levites and Chiefs of Clans the old men who had seen the first house wept loudly at the sight of the founding of the house while many others shouted joyously at the top of their voices why why were people crying yeah first they saw the first bam and compared to this what they were about to build was nothing that cup ties into what I was saying why the people were reluctant to build they well how can we build something like the first temple and the people I mean they started building their let me tell you something it was they came back about 49 to 50 years after they were exiled not 70 listen that not 70 and they started building so people were still alive you know guys who was 70 80 years old which is not that old right right so they they remembered what the Ben like they were 10 15 20 years old they remember what it looked like and now they're saying what they're building here is nothing so they were crying about it you see how it ties in to what it said in they said it's not time to build a how can we B build what we had so that's what happened over there at any rate um this is what's happening has happened during the time of KAG and then and also his his younger um uh live the same time uh also a prophet zakar and you'll see that and um so it seems that they started to Zu I said was a great-grandson ofu who was the last uh king of Yehuda and all Kings of Yehuda were from the davidic line yeah great yeah people think it's a grandon look carefully in uh and others they're actually with four generations grandon great grandson yes yes because C is not his son grandson um yeah they start C that's a very good question I I can't say yes but I'm saying that there's a connection again you know maybe you haven't started building the bed but we're back to to worshiping in the mikdash and is it the connection could be but it's either coincidence or it's not coincidence but I think that's a part of the connection right now the second time we hear KAG talking and uh that is I believe on the um 21st of Tish Raba that's that's what said um yeah that me that was um number eight is it over here B yeah and here it is and in number seven the seventh Source there also from haay it says on the 21st day of the seventh month that's by the way um the word of hem came to speak to andah um who is there left among you who saw this house in its former Splendor right now now we're back to what we said in in in Ezra and saying okay and who was old enough to see that right does it look to you now how does it look how does it look to you now right and must seem like nothing to you but be strong o zuru be strong for I Am with You says Hashem this is the other part of the phenomenal prophecies given to the people I know how tough it is for you you've returned you haven't got much money but don't use that his excuses not to do the job and don't worry first he says I'll be happy with what your bill I'll be very glad for it now he says I guarantee that I'll be there I gu guarantee a a success for you um be strong he said be strong what a powerful message he gives now when he does that um we realize that in effect it starts a whole revolution in the world um now Israel will be G will be considered I would say honored and glorified not because they're dependent the other nations here they will not be dependent other nations that was the whole point um there's a great wonderful prophecy even says it's a unbelievable never happened Isel was did not did not Merit to have this happen but that's what he says but anyway um the iban azra says that that that really that the never came true at all but it would have come true had they you know followed as they should have so now right after the of KAG and by the way Haag only has two chapters that's all and I told you last time the beauty of the Prophecies of ha is that he gives you all the dates like has a calendar in front of him this is why God said this is so give us an idea when these things are happening that's very it's so one wonderful historically for us to be able to know that so that therefore when zaka starts speaking he starts speaking his first is literally almost immediately after ha had his lasta on the 21st day of TI zakar has it a week 10 days later zakar in the beginning of mar begin has his first that's what it says here in the next thing um what happen CU I actually Zakaria where are you Zakaria yeah there is zakar yeah yeah eight number eight right right right number eight it says in the eighth month of the second year of dares work of God came word of God came to zakar saying Hashem was very angry with your ancestors turn uh turn back back to me says God and I will turn back to you when he said we'll come back to you you know you turn back to me yeah but that's what he's saying it doesn't say it says the eighth month do not be like your ancestors for when the early prophets called to them and said come turn back from your evil ways and your evil Deeds but they did not obey oh give heed to me me so where so where are your ancestors now and did the prophets live forever where are your ancestors now and the prophets live forever in other words every generation passes but exactly what the prophet says happened to listen to your prophets so in other words even at this point it still hadn't yet been done what God wanted to them they may have laid it seems they had laid a foundation but they hadn't really started building that's what it seems to be um and so as we go on um we realize zakaya was giving a message that unless we un understand this is happening right after what ha said A week and a week and a half before and um we wouldn't understand it see is urging the people to shed their feelings of inadequacy just like he said the same thing and start building the mikdash and indeed as we read they start doing that the next month in the ninth month that we have even Ezra the Next Generation points to the Prophecies of Zakaria and kagay and the motivation to um build this I'm not GNA make you uh um read the Aramaic but I'll I did translate it for you they have in the ninth thing then the prophets and Ezra who is a generation later is telling the people what happened in the last generation he said the prophets kagay and zakaya prophesied to the Jews in Judah and Jerusalem inspired by God of course thereon Zub Babel and yosua began rebuilding the house of God in Jerusalem with the full support and um of the prophets of Hashem so the Elders of the Jews progressed in in the building urged on by the prophesying of kagay and zakaya and they brought the building to completion under the ages of the god of Israel and by the order of Cyrus and Darius and kinger one of the okay um what's the word AES AES under the the the support would say of them AG of you know you know it's like some guy a wealthy guy has has has people a painter make uh make paintings to him it's under the ages of he is supporting it okay um so the next prophecy by okay uh the prophecy of ha and is is a prophecy actually I was wrong that wasn't the last time also has a prophecy in the ninth month this is what I touched upon last time this actually is what blows your mind it says there in ha he starts it with on the 24th day of the ninth month in the year of dares the second year the word of God came to the prophet kagi and now take thought from this day backward he said as long as no stone has yet been laid upon another in the B mikdash maybe the Bas was made but they hadn't really started the building yet now listen to this take note he said from the 24th day of the n9th month when they have not yet started building ex said the day from the day before when the foundation was laid for the temple in other words it's going to lay the temple on the 25th day of the ninth month he said take note while the seed is still in the granery and the vine and fig and so on and so forth to go back to what I said last time for those who weren't here those who may have forgotten the ninth month is kiss slave the day before they started building up was 24th of Kay which means they started building on the 25th of KL that's when the real building of the second temple started the 25th of KL we call that son the 25th of K that's when it starts B in the B Shen some 250 years before but that's when it started so at any rate um that's what we read and that is as I said powerful unbelievable but what's also very interesting about this and this is crucial for us to answer the question I was telling you and that is it says also if you see this take note well the seed is still in the granery and the vine fig tree pomegranate and Olive Tree have not yet uh born fruit from this day on I will send blessings so it's kiss slave and the olives have not yet taken fruit right um and and in fact in the um when we come to speaking of the ma basic fruit or something of Israel and what the Torah always says uh it says um let me see in in the shma you can help me out here um it says and then it says you will gather what which is what is wine is Right olive oil correct you don't mention popey but they have olive oil so there you have the three all three over here look what it says it says is a time what it say it says you have you shall hold the Feast of for seven days during the and Gathering of the threshing floor meaning weeds and Grain and your vat and wine what's missing here what should be then and your olive oil your oil why doesn't the Torah mention you're also going to be gathering the oil the olive oil understand the importance of olive oil in the ancient world it was used as as money it was used for many things not only eating and drinking and and adding to your no it helped you for your skin everything it was a a basic thing to sukot doesn't it say why doesn't it say you'll be gathering your olive oil also why did they skip it up over here very simple onot they don't gather oil because although the wine and grain Harvest is completed in the end of the summer the ol of pressing time had just begun it wasn't yet ready that early now we asked the question why did the Torah connect well let me go one more thing the rabbis see this and there's discussion in the mishna of Bim you know what the Bim are the first fruits first fruits come usually between that everything's ready by by Shabu and you you bring it the the first fruits are brought then uh from they say um to from sh no from it says from from sh that from sh the which brought the first uh so the gar says um okay um yeah yeah I say yeah I'm sorry from sh to I said the other way around I mean they start bring it from sh and they you can come if you I just got there for you when can I go when you come for bring it then also you know because you have to bring it to the okay so those are times you can do it but the two things you have to do you have to bring the first fruits and you have to say a proc Proclamation right so it's called mikra look up first and the so those are two things you have to do huh yeah first fruits from first child first fruit okay the first fruit of anyway the M discusses specifics and the Mish says rabuda says that one may bring his and recite the proclamation from sh until sukot but between sukot anduk he may bring the Bim but he cannot make the proclamation says that he may make bring as well as make the proclamation even uh to kanuk why is Kaneka considered the time of first fruits because that's when they had the oil and before then they hadn't pressed the oil hello welcome to Kaneka why did they have oil oh they couldn't find it go to the store and get another piece of an OU on it and bring B what is this they couldn't because the pressing was not completed they can only use what was ever there they only found one thing and that's what they had America until they got more so you see that you see as a time of and you think at the end of it no it isn't because kanuka is a time of just like the connection therefore is fascinating mishna also other things not only historically and date wise but the f dates when talk about Al anyway but the fact is that what we're happening what's happening here is that we had a time in in the year and that was a time for for olive oil you know yeah laus and donuts also the olive oil is really good thing so here you are in the longest in the in the uh the time the weeks of the longest nights of the year at the end of a month when the moon is not powerful it's going it's the darkest moment you can have in the year the longest time when the Jew says light the candles like before that's it that's our connection and that's part of what Hanukah really is about and I wish you happy Hanah