Asarah B'Tevet | Rabbi Yitzchak Breitowitz

okay so uh as you know for the past uh few weeks we've been doing uh PR Vu and we at least initially finished that M then we did khaka uh for two weeks and although uh there's much more to say about khaka but since khaka is now passed I'll leave that maybe for next year uh so what I want to talk about today ises uh but again because this is a sh and I often say uh this is not you're not here for inspiration those who want inspiration uh maybe you can go to my Tuesday night share or the many other good shorum that are given here uh we basically focus on analytical so I do want to speak about uh a very very interesting aspect of aares that makes it very unique we know that in the Jewish calendar there are four fast days during the year that are connected to theik uh and I'm going to mention them in the chronological order of their currence even though there are different parts of the calendar uh assara betes is the first event connected to theik because on the 10th of T is when and the Babylonians began a Siege against jeruselam that culminated three years later on the nth of with theb bik so this is the the earliest stage The Siege around jerus in the bay now let me point out that as far as I know has no corresponding event for theb meaning is only the badrian unlike the ninth of of now the second event is the fast of the 17th of thamos now here it actually is a bit complicated because uh one of the reasons why we fast in the sevenes of Tas was at the end of The Siege the enemy broke into the City and got control of the city however the gamoran Titus explains that the 17th of tamos is when the Romans broke into yush at the time of the Corbin B Shen during theb Reon the nvi says it was the nth of Tas so in reality we ought to have a fast both on the ninth of Tas and on the 17th but the gamar says Kaz didn't want to make too many fast days that are close together although we do have some G in yum Kipper yeah that's true but they didn't want to do this uh and therefore as a result we only commemorate the second Corban so is the beginning of the siege for theb sh is the city was broken into theb byen for the Bas Reon it was the ninth of Tas then of course we have uh Tish which is the anniversary of both theban Reon and theban B Shen which were exactly 490 years apart meaning from the first horban to the second hban is 490 years because there was the 70 years of the Babylonian exile then 420 years of the bay sheni and the last of the B mikdash fastes is the fast of Galia which once again is only connected to the bayad Rishon and not to the Bay sheni that after theban and after the Exile a small number of Jews were permitted to remain in AR Israel under the leadership of Galia Ben aikam and for many Jews this was a glimmer of hope that perhaps Hashem will allow the Bas of mikdash to re re re be rebuilt very soon and when Galia was assassinated that was the nail in the coffin meaning how many months that was only well the Corbin was um Tish Galia was assassinated actually according to most SHO on Ro following that Tish so it was less than two months later and the reason we we fast on the third of Tish is simply because um you're not allowed to fast on rashash but technically galik was killed on rashash itself and two months after theban but once again just like a has nothing that corresponds to the Bay cheni s Galia also has nothing connected to the Bay cheni so shivas so Tish of course is both Bas re and B sheni shivas bamos is technically B cheny but we also think about badria which was the ninth of Tas uh but the first of the fast days the 10th of Taves and the last of the fast days are only connected to bayad Ron not bayad sheny now aor is the most unusual of all of our tesm and in fact we're going to experience it this year uh because it is the only fast day in which we actually fast on Friday we know of course that we don't fast on chabas even for Tish only for Yam Kipper which is a DOA uh but normally the Jewish calendar is such that the other fast days never fall out on Friday asares is the only one that we actually fast on Friday which is very unusual there's another peculiarity of aaras which is based on the civil calendar it is the only fast day where you could have uh two of them in a single civil year meaning to say because a because of the leap years and the like you could have let's say a SAS in one year early in January like this year and next year it might be in late December so as a result in a single calendar year is that is that the case this year Aus for 2025 is is um okay so you can actually have a January December so it's the only Jewish holiday where you can have two of them in a single secular year but again that's not important Hally but that's an interesting curiosity but in terms of fasting on Arab shabas it's an interesting thing because normally the same way you're not supposed to fast on chabas there actually is a you're not supposed to fast on Arab chabas and the reason is because we don't want you to enter shabas in a state of starvation or feeling deprived because that itself takes away from the on Shabbat that you begin shabas in a state of deprivation it is true that there are you're not supposed to eat a lot on Friday that happens to be true also so you should enter shabas having a good appetite but it's also true that you don't enter shabas in a state of deprivation and fasting exception is aorus now all of this is well known and indeed this year we're going to experience it but there's a remarkable Kes from Ravid aam theam lived in Spain in the uh in the 1400s was one of the great early Aon or maybe late rehon him how you classify him who wrote much onila and the like the safer abam is still a very masterful collection of both perim and Halos onila on the Jewish calendar all sorts of aspects on when do you join paros together when do you separate them all of those details of the Liturgy and the aam is brought in all hak sources and the abam says the following KES not only do you fast on Friday but if the tent of T would fall out on chabas if it would fall out on chabas you would even fast on chabas now this is as they say an untestable proposition and the reason is an untestable proposition is that based on the Jewish calendar and the days that rashash can f out remember rashash the first day of rashash can never fall out on a Sunday on a Wednesday or a Friday that's called Low I now based on that that's going to affect automatically when any of the other holidays could fall because once rashash cannot fall out on three days of the week and then you look at the lengths of the months that's automatically going to affect every other YT as well and it happens to be a can never fall out on chabas so as a result the aam is making what you might call an untestable hypothesis uh and he's saying okay it can't fall out on chavas but if it could you would even fast why is that so so he quotes he derives this from a verse in the now remember Yi lived at the same time as y Ani the time of the mikash but remember that was in and he was of course an eyewitness to the had been exiled to B 11 years earlier there was an earlier wave of Exile so Jesco was in B at the time so Hashem told him in B when theader began The Siege on the tenth of Tas in Eric Israel he told them prophetically and the Jewish people in Bubba were not aware of this yet write down this very day this very day m b is beginning his Siege against jerus so the abam argues that since is described with the appal on that very day we actually derive that that day is in Violet that day must be observed no matter what that day must be observed as a tanit even if it would fall out on chabas which makes it the same as yum ker now initially this is a little bit peculiar because there's no question whatsoever that the fast of Tish is much much stricter than the fast of a if for example you're not feeling well you have an upset stomach you have a very serious headache I'm not giving you blanket Hatcher but there may be a lot of leniency to permit you to break the assar fast for the ninth of a it would have to be much more serious so in terms of which is a more fast there is no question that the ninth of a is much more than the 10th of T and yet if the ninth of a falls out on chabas we push it off to Sunday we don't fast on shabbats only yum ker yum Kipper of course is different that's a Torah requirement so why would a be so severe that it could override even the chabas Tish itself does not override chabas even though Tish is a much more stricter fast so there's a very interesting explanation from R Sal R brisker and brisker says the following idea he says normally we should actually fast anytime a fast happens in shabas because it's a Mitzvah in other words even though chabas is chabas if there's a Mitzvah to fast we should fast like him Kipper he says the reason we don't is precisely because there's a makeup possibility meaning it's a little different than the way we look at it the normal way we look at it is like this we say oh you're not allowed to fast on chabas therefore you have to make it up the next day R says he reverses the cause and effect since you have a makeup then don't fast on shabas because you don't have to because this is a makeup fast so says since the words be canote that this is not a makeup fast it must be on this day so if I were not to fast on chabas I wouldn't do it at all you fast on chabas you see is that you have to ask yourself if I don't fast today could I fast tomorrow if I could fast tomorrow then I shouldn't fast on chabas but if I can't fast tomorrow so if I don't fast on chabas I'm not going to have the F at all in such a situation it's even and therefore teaches us again this doesn't yet give a reason but B teaches us that the tent of Tes is not a make makeup fast it's not a makeable replacement therefore if you wouldn't fast on shabas you would lose the Mitzvah so in order not to the we allow you to fast on chabas the nth where the words are not used and therefore you can make it up the next day so we don't Kipper is different but we don't fast on the ninth of because you can make it up meaning you you don't instead of saying I don't fast and therefore I will make it up you got to work the other way around if I can make it up then I don't fast and that which I cannot make up so if I don't fast on chabas I'm not going to do it at all I fast on chabas this is that it is much to fast on chabas if it is a fast day that does not have tashin that means a fast day that cannot be made up so if I don't do it today I will not be able to do it later such a fast day even overrides chabas and the only fast day that does not override chabas is a fast day which um you're does not override chabas if you are uh not able to make it up right so not able to make it up it override chabas if I can make it up then it does not override chabas yeah yeah yeah so the question the question is okay again as I said this does not get this does not yet give a reason why is I'll address that a little later that is a good question and we'll come to it yeah if you had a bad dream on Friday night yeah yes that's that's one exception and I'll come back to that too there is a rule that if a person had a frightening dream and the is although many people don't do that today that one is uh supposed to fast today we generally give Stucker but there is a law in the book so to speak that one fasts in order that hasem should cancel a negative dream so the is a tinest you are allowed to have to do even on chabas itself if you had a frightening dream Friday Friday night but the is very a little unusual here that you then have to have another fast during the week as an atonement for the sin of fasting on chabas uh I would just CAU you don't schedule the second fast on chabas because then you're gonna have to keep on going uh so this is a strange idea where on one hand you are allowed to fast on shabas for and at the other hand you still need a certain atonement for fasting on shabas now it's recorded that people remember the they remember a number of times had many kind of prophetic dreams was actually a big dreamer in that sense and his dreams were meaningful dreams and people remember at times that did not eat on shabat and he said it was because of a now I don't want to get into all of that maybe we'll devote a share to it some other time uh but Titus khom is still something that can be practiced but by and large we don't necessarily encourage it that much because for many of us uh extra fast days make it difficult to Davin make it difficult to learn Torah so spiritually you might be losing more than you're gaining so we courage giving STA and one other possibility that's very interesting is something called a Tanis debor have you heard of a Tanis debor that's where you don't talk that day now for some people they'll say listen I'll give up the food I as long as I can talk you know which which is harder uh but they say a Tinus debor is actually a creates a greater kapara than a Tinus even from food yeah yeah is also a special prayer that you say some do in front of three people like a bon I think the the uh at least the newer art scroll sitter has a ceremony and uh in if you remember during which is only recited in only during the of so between the verses there's a prayer Reon shal asking Hashem to make my dreams into good dreams uh however uh that's said in the problem is that in actually not all of but in and a lot ofel where Basim is recited every day there's no spacing there's no uh time to say the rebon sh so no you don't because because when the kohanim are actually saying the bras you don't say anything you talking about so no no so what they so what they do is what they T to do is that in the of Y in they do sing between theuk so you have the same chance to say Theon as somebody in that that's the reason why you'll notice that uh not everybody does that but but you'll notice that even even in on the mus of Y theim do sing and that allows me to say the rebon so uh you don't gain the rebon by daily but at least you don't lose them you get to say it the same number of times that you would say it in yeah yeah yeah so the question would be that you know uh many people have a Min to fast on the art side of a parent this is actually in the gamar itself such a custom and let's say a person Mish made AA or at least they've already done so three times in a row which Hally turns it into a vow and then the next yard site is on chabas so would you fast on shabus if it is a a y site so the H actually is yes and and the principle basically is that once you started a series of fasting meaning if shabas would have been the first y site you would not but once you established a pattern then even if shabas comes in such a situation you do fast so that would be a second example of of of fasting on on on chabas okay uh yeah the yeah yeah that's correct in other words that's correct in other words if if someone's yard site is on a day where you're not supposed to fast every year in other words the yite is porin the Y site is the side is even to Bish so in such a situation you don't fast uh but this is a different situation this is a situation where it is a day that you do fast except it happens to be on chabas so there the is once you had begun the pattern uh you continue it which about yeah yeah so so the short answer is the short answer is that uh yeah the question is why why would any fast ever override chabus except for yum Kipper given the fact that chabas is a Torah Commandments and all of these fast days are rinic so why would a Rabon and override so the truth of the matter is that the the eer of fasting on chabas is also technically Rabbi it's from the prophets it's derived from yes so it actually is not a DOA in in that way now I want to mention aasha that people ask in again go over is that if the fast is movable you don't fast on chabas if the fast is not movable then you could fast on is not movable because of therefore if you couldn't fast on chabas you wouldn't observe it at all therefore you can fast on chabas which is a movable fast so if I don't fast on chabas I can fast on Sunday it then becomes user to fast on chabas now here is the ction this is a Kasha from a in M the gar in Milla recounts uh a story about rebi rebi of course is the is the moncher for RAB Yehuda hanasi who is the compiler of the mishna one of the great great sikim as well and it says rebi decided one year to get rid of Tish he wanted to abolish the fast of the nth of so the gamarra says the following the gamarra says how could he do that the ninth above what do you mean how could rebi did not live when the rebi lived after the barev things were not not so great that either it wasn't mashia so the gamar explains that the case was Tish fell out on chabas that year and it was Reb's position that if you're not gonna fast on the correct date you shouldn't fast at all in other words unlike the we Tish is a movable fast rebi said you have as rebi made Tish like a reie took the position the fast must be on the ninth above we don't pass like rebby of course and the fast is not on the ninth of therefore you don't observe it at all now the question is if you think about this Rim's logic words what what does the since it's chabas and you can't fast on chabas therefore you don't fast on Sunday that's what the gor means that rebbi want to get rid of Tish that if you're not gonna fast on chabas then don't fast on Sunday but like R the opposite should have been the case if you're not able to fast on Sunday you should fast on chabas meaning the gamar seems to posit that not fasting on chabas is a given so we pass in if it falls out on chabas fast on Sunday rebi says no if it falls out on chabas you don't fast at all but wait a second like ra the logic should be if you're not gonna fast on the wrong date instead of saying you skipped tiub that year you should have said fast on chabus so Eli what do you see from the gamar you see from the gamar that even when a fast is not a makeable up fast such a word you still don't fast on chabas it's the opposite of R's logic of you see in other words R wants to learn any fast that you can make up you don't fast on chabas any fast you cannot make up you do fast on shabas According to rebi which we don't pasin like you cannot make up Tish if it's not going to be on the ninth above you don't fast but the gamar says therefore there was no he he didn't want there to be a fast at all yeah no only when it fell on that's what the gamar says the gamarra explains the gamarra explains that when when when it says RI wanted to abolish Tish he meant he wanted to abolish when Tish falls out on shabas but like ra which should have happened was he should have said you fast on sh so here we have a further aend to from the was May is actually named after he had no surviving children he had one daughter who died in the lifetime of uh himself and the Ritson and uh is a tremendous tremendous God even Sal who himself was godor considered to beor and adds the following glass to Tish above is very different than a primarily because it is a 24hour fasting so the or wants to say the following when then you have a 24hour fast on chabas in which you're totally taking away on chabas then it's an absolute rule that you don't fast on chabas so therefore the make makeup versus non-makeup is not going to be relevant for 24-hour fast therefore Tish above which is a 24hour fast you will never fast on chabas no matter what so happened to pasin it's a makeup days you do it on Sunday but even Reby who said you can't make it up would still say you can't fast on chabas because it's 24 hours as a result rebi would say there would be no Tish above that here which is not a 24-hour fast so even if you fast on chabas you're not totally depriving yourself of pleasure because you can have a meal Friday night so there we say if it's a makeup fast if it can make it up you shouldn't fast on chabas even in the day if you couldn't make it up theam says you could which means the that ra makes between a fast that you can make up and a fast you cannot make up is only going to be relevant on a partial day fast it's not going to be relevant on a 24-hour fast this is so if you combine the two together so let's take something like Shas in fact this is Mas an interesting kha really G because here's the thing you know of course that the fast of the 17th of Tas is always the same day of the week as Tish above three weeks later now if it was re's position that if Tish falls out on chabas since you don't fast on chabas you don't fast on Sunday then he should have said the same thing by the 17th of tamas that if you don't fast on shabbath you don't fast on Sunday why does the gamar say it was only Tish that he was canceling and not Shiva sbas the answer is since Shiva seramas is not a 24-hour fast so even if rebi would not push it off to Sunday he then would have allowed it to be done on chabas again we don't P that either because we P you can always make it up on Sunday but his position is you can't now there's his position is you can't make up the fast days so the question becomes so for Tish above that means you're not going to fast at all when it falls out on chabas for Shas it means you're going to fast on chabas just like Aus and that's why the l of the gamarra that he wanted to get rid of Tish only applies to Tish it does not apply to the 17th of of Thomas yeah started the what no that that's in the gamar itself the gamar itself gen well uh it's in it's it's the Mish that says that when Tisha falls out on chabas we push it off to to Sunday so the idea of a is brought down by the way yeah every everything no no we we push off everything we we push off everything uh all of theim of Tish go to Sunday the only thing is some say that matters that are totally private like Tash which is forbidden on Tish you wouldn't do on on chabas either but any anything that's public you push it off to to to Sunday um yeah so so this is uh so we're combining two variables here uh I'm sorry yeah right after the fast dat on the 11th of T you're fast you supposed to f two days in a row well I'm asking because it happens to be my I don't but I think my son generally speaking yeah generally speaking we do not encourage two consecutive fast days if one feels they're able to do it they can do it but we would not we would not consider that an obligation especially this year since it comes out on chabis yeah yeah especially so yeah yeah but even even if it's during the week uh we would not encourage two fast days in a row now you know it's interesting on one hand the gamor itself records the Min of fasting on the yard site on the other hand as you knowum in particular uh make a big thing they bring schnaps and they bring uh Herring and like now some do both sometimes the balard side brings all sorts of stuff and the balard side fasts he fasts and he brings a lot of food for people to make brosan ELO what did I hear once uh just free I'm free associating here but I I once read an absolutely heartbreaking heartbreaking story about a man who was on his deathbed and his family wanted him to see a rabbi and he didn't want to see a rabbi he says I don't care about Judaism I don't care about rabbis and somehow I think sh got into him and the man told him a story the man was in his 90s the man said 80 years ago I lost my father I had no father I was just a kid and I came to sh to say Kadesh for my father's and his father's Y and after sh some guy went over to me and said what type of kid are you he didn't even bring a bottle of schnaps you didn't bring any hering and the kid came from a poor family he literally you know didn't didn't have it didn't have it and he said he was so humiliated he was so hurt he says he ran out of sha he went to his room he sobbed the whole day his mother can get him out and he made a nether he would never walk into a sh again and he had not gone to show even on yum Kipper for whatever 80 years the the beautiful ending there's a actually beautiful ending of the story that somehow the sh was to reach him and he made a reconciliation with Hashem before he died but think about a story like that think about these words that we don't you know we don't even think mean anything how much they could hurt somebody how much they could destroy somebody and how much sensitivity we have to have I mean really the kid said he subbed and he made a n he would never walk into sh what Happ to the man that listen I um not not so good you know I don't want I don't wish I don't wish bad on anyone but uh yeah yeah decided to walk into to see what like he sat down three PE said you're sitting in my seat he said I didn't walk into a for 30 years yeah yeah it happens a lot this thing about makum Kaba this is actually a big thing I mean you know I've been under receiving ends myself for many times can't sit here sit here sit here sit here you know Etc and it leaves a very bad taste in the mouth I I know that some rabbis actually make announcements not in Yesa so much but they make announcements that anyone who sits in your seat you let them sit in your seat and do not make do not make any issue about it whatsoever and I think that's largely a wise uh very very wise AG because uh okay but things to think about the you know it's true that Ding in a Mak kava is aor it's it's it's totally proper but you got to think about in all of these things you got to think about the pain the embarrassments the discomfort uh and the truth of the matter is whatever you're gaining by your H Mitzvah of daving in you're more than losing by the pain that you're causing other people yeah okay yeah yeah you know held that this was even true ding for the this is sometimes a source of fighting uh let's assume that you have a yard site or whatever let's say two people have a yard site u and sometimes they fight over who should do it or one is in schlo and one [Music] ises or whatever it is said that if you want to bring to your mother to your father whatever it is making Shalom is and avoiding is a much greater than whatever you gain by daving for the or saying kades if that's going to cause so you always have to look at what will create the greatest amount of Shalom because after all why why do why do you DAV for the why do you say Kadesh why do you do all of these things it's not St to be on show it's because you want to do something that will Elevate the Nish of the nter so how are you going to elevate the Nish of the nifter through bitterness and mlus and animosity so you give up you give up even if it's uh and know important to you but if you see that the other person is going to get very very upset you be on it and uh that's a very good I think it's a very good rule of thumb uh for us to for us to follow same thing with weddings all sorts of things who should walk down the aisle you know they askov the askov keski once he says um what's what's the proper Min you know should the should the be the two fathers and the Kal of the two mothers or should it be mother father mother father and they asked rakov how did you do it so he said three times one way and three times the other way he says he says whatever whatever The Wanted is what I did I didn't I never made an issue over it again that's important to think about how the gdan lived their lives that all of the things that we fight over and we don't make all sorts of issues all right in the larger scheme of things they're just not that important also people should not because they don't do well they don't know how to sing um you know it's a you know it's an interesting question some some actually have a rule that if a if a b is he does not D he does not automatically D for the because maybe he can't D so well or whatever would be and he says Kadesh and the like so some some you some places do have such a rule that you have to be tested out you're talking about even shab even sh doesn't have on shabus even during the oh just generally people [Laughter] that well okay that's uh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah well uh yeah okay no there there there's a Blog that actually writes reviews of uh of schs I mean they don't mention the name necessarily what they talk about this week you know the kazin used this niggan for kadha that was totally inappropriate you got gives you a whole it's a whole review of of what's the right niggan what's the wrong niggan and this was a niggan that was beyond his voice register he shouldn't have uh he shouldn't have used it and like okay so now I just want to add one little HF to this and a very interesting of the when push comes to shove whatever the explanation is we have to ask ourselves why why is so that there's an that it's even so the brings in the idea that we already talked about he says why are you allow out to have a shabas why isn't that a violation of fasting and chabas so here's what the says theam s says there's a difference between fast days that commemorate past tragedies and fast days that are praying to Hashem to avert a future tragedy we don't do mourning on chabas so to mourn over the past it's inappropriate to fast so the ninth of is a fast of aus a fast of mourning Shas is a fast of mourning Somalia is a fast of mourning we don't mourn over the past on shabas a Tinus khom is a prayer that the dream should not turn into something bad tan which are prayers for the are not n in the prohibition of fasting and chabas because they're like fos now what about the tent of T tent of seems to also be a fast about the past so here's a tremendous of the real theam s says that just like is a god decides who will live and who will die on rosashana there's at least a preliminary judgment called yipper it is sealed of course hasem keeps on giving us delays here right R it's written down Yumer it is sealed but hasem keeps it in his desk he delivers it to the malim to carry out and then it's brought out until khah hasem can still call back the Mal it's like the parent who says I'm going to count to five and you better one two three three four five okay we're going to count to 10 you know whatever it is so so he does give us a lot of extensions but just like rashash is he says Hashem decides on the 10th day of T if the base on mikash is going to be rebuilt this year so we fast on the tenth of T says the S not to commemorate a tragedy but like a Tinus so that the tragedy of galut should be averted and changed by ban bet mikdash this is called a y for banik and that is why theoretically it would even override chabas because it falls under the category of now that does mean that if if we truly pray perhaps we will Merit that Hashem will decree that the Bas mikas shall be rebuilt this year now once again though if God forbid we don't Merit such a favorable decree that doesn't mean all hope is lost just like in rasher you can still pray that Gazo should be ripped up but it's a harder process it's much harder to change a negative decree than it is not to get the negative decree in the first place so this is a new significance for that it is is a therefore it is like a that you're allowed to do even on chabas because it's forward looking it is not just mourning over the over the past and even though as I say the aam's uh assertion is untestable because the calendar doesn't allow it but the fact that we fast on Friday shows us there Mas there is something unique about this fast day a final point about asses I want to mention this when we look at the fast days we see that they're often rooted in some earlier great sin of am so for example the fast of the 17th of Thomas is rooted in Theo because MOS went up to Mount Si on us he came down 40 Days Later which is the 17th of thas if you calculate it that's when he saw the agel and he broke the L smashed the L so the root of the 17th of Tas is a day of tragedy lie in the Tish the root of Tish is a day of Destruction and crying and weeping and mourning is rooted in the of the morim because the morim came back on the eighth of a and they gave their report how there are giants we have no way of winning and that night the men were crying and weeping and sobbing and not believ in hashem's promise and said you are crying a crying of not of no reason this day will become the so the root of the 17th of T is the and the root of Tish is the of theim by the way as we know that the women did not sin in theim they had but still uh they suffer along with all of us meaning once Tish became a day ofan so women mourn as well right They Mourn over the mistakes their their husbands made whatever even though they did not not make make those we're not guilty of those mistakes so some Galia as far as I know I'm not aware of any root of but but is very interesting great great great great not necessarily so well known but phenomenal going brings from although it's not in so it's hard to know where the sparm got it from commemorates y that there was a m that YF was sold by his brothers on the 10th of Taves so it turns out that at least three of the four fast days are rooted in primeval A at our Inception as a nation yes that's correct that's correct correct yeah yeah well uh you know as I say uh the the the ultimate curse of may be that uh you're on the receiving end of all the all the mistakes that men make say again okay yeah okay you're right so yeah we can wait wait we can blame women for that for that one the first one on the other hand on the other hand maybe I shouldn't I shouldn't make a declaration against my male interest uh many say that the only reason made a mistake the says is because told her don't touch the tree the pushes her nothing happens had Adam been honest with her had he told her the truth she wouldn't have eaten right so the is actually Adam's fault in not being honest with so even that Etc okay so okay oh oh oh you I see uh that's that's interesting maybe I hear I hear here so that's kind of the most basic of all it's interesting you you wouldn't look at s Galia as the most basic he was killed which was the day of AD Marisha right right right right right right right yeah okay uh so we'll stop here just as we wish for So based on this thought we should also have a for and once again knowing that this is the anniversary of the should once again make us ponder that is the reason for the destruction of the second bikash and until we overcome that we will not be to its Redemption so have a good good fast