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A Promised Land or a Conquered One? (Pt II) Rabbi Neil Winkler | September 11th 2025
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moves with me. You know, my biggest
problem I I the uh principles used to
tell me in the olden days, you know, uh
this is where you sit, you'll sit over
here in the desk and this is where you
teach. I couldn't sit down and teach. I
would walk around the class. First of
helped tremendously. You know, the kids
who were, you know, fell asleep, I could
spill water on them. You know, little
things like that. So, you could go
around and I can tell they you explain
to you, you understand what I'm saying?
Said, "Okay, fine. If you have a
problem, let me know. Uh oh, are you
going to do I see you're not writing. I
was I was able to see the kids. I was
able to to connect with them and and
find out who really doesn't know what's
happening. Which is also important is to
tell my students I said if you're if you
don't understand something, it's my
problem. That means I didn't do a good
job teaching you. Said so let's try this
again. That's why I used to tell the
kids didn't do well in in tests. I know
the real reason. You were too lazy to
study. I know that. But I would tell
them it was my fault. Obviously, I
didn't let you. So, tell you know what
I'm gonna either I'll give you this test
again or let's sit down and I'll see if
you understand better
orally, which I find that you I remember
as a as a student I I I was in college
and we I loved history. I ma I majored
in history and I we had a very good
teacher of American history at YU and I
was there every day. I was taking down
notes and everything and uh but it was
it was tough for me to do that but it
was very interesting and I wanted to get
everything done and one of these was to
the students unfortunately you know God
is has a has a wonderful uh sense of
humor he goes through and my says okay
this is a wonderful I'm going to give
you all the all the brains and then goes
to others like me and says sorry we ran
out of brains over there you'll just
want Uh so in one of these kids in my
class uh who was a brilliant brilliant
guy who came the first day of the
history and he never showed up again.
Never showed up again. Took whatever
test he had came before the big test,
you know, the finals. He said, "Can I
borrow your notebook?" So being a nice
guy, let alone being an idiot, I gave
him my notebook, but make sure I have it
back. I have to start studying. Yeah. So
he mailed it back to me a day before the
bed test. He was living someplace else.
I see it comes in my mailbox.
He got an A in the class and I got a B.
He never came and I did and I took notes
and that was my mistake. So I figured
from now on never go to the class.
They'll do much better.
>> That's a story.
>> She have an excuse for the people.
>> Yeah. Right.
Do you ever you were a Jewish mother so
what happened at 95 what happened to the
other five points?
Yeah. Um, at any rate,
I left off last time in our discussion
of uh are these parts of the land that
were taken over by um these two and a
half tribes or really two tribes and
then the other half uh uh these parts of
what we call Son and Og. Were they
really part of what God promised at the
promised land which by the way is very
important as far as the kaduca about
whether Truma and Taser and so on and so
forth. uh or is it something that merely
said that gee I hadn't thought of it but
as long as you conquered it I guess you
can have it and I was giving you
different sources as to that seemed to
uh conflict but then at the end at when
I left you um as I do often purposely
making sure you're confused uh I I gave
the idea that well it doesn't seem to be
that they really are supposed to be part
of the land it seemed to I just was at
an add-on. Does that mean it's holy or
not? Yes or no? But at least there
wasn't really God's original original
one. And I left, if you recall last
week, because I know this week was so
crazy, I don't remember anything from
then. But I do remember
that I had gone through the source found
in Sephra Yahushua.
There there was a source at the end of
Sephra Yahushua when the um two and a
half tribes had fulfilled their promise
to Mosha Rabenu and to Yahosua that they
would lead the uh army in the invasion
and the conquest of the lands in the uh
western part of the Jordan that um they
had finished not only the battle years,
but the those years of settlement. What
that means, by the way, it wasn't just
settlement of uh I'm trying to put a
pool in the backyard and it wasn't that
settlement. A settlement was to make
sure that they can in go into the each
specific tribe because there were still
the um the um can I call them? Yeah. the
the originals you know the aboriges who
were still there living there the shata
mameim as it's called you know why it's
never called amame not amim which is
correct I know somebody was could be
that couldn't speak well they were they
were it's amim it's notam it's an
am those that were still living there
God's uh charge to them was fine.
Yoshua did his job in defeating the
major alliances that had the powerful
uh um armies.
But you're going to be responsible each
and every tribe to remove
the idolatry from your area so it not uh
impact you and not really uh destroy
your belief. Um and that and that's each
tribe had it and that was a national
guard for each Yehuda and God and
whoever it was they had to get rid of
them. Um so that settlement was that act
either getting rid of them or finding
settlements where they could live in
this areas with the others around them
and that took another seven years.
uh and after those 14 years and I'm
going to go back to the quote so that
you can again uh perhaps refresh your
memories and there that quote uh on our
seventh source you see the last passage
there is a source which seems to
indicate
that it was a
understood
by the other tribes that these two and a
half tribes. These
parcels of land on the eastern side of
the Jordan, northeastern of the Jordan
really wasn't the holy land and that,
you know, you guys wanted to live there,
but that's really not go what God
thought of. And they say that in in the
English as you see on source number Zion
7,
the um tribes had gathered together
having heard what that when the three
the the the two and a half tribes had
left and had moved back northeast
to get to their homes where their
families were, where the they had built
these areas. as these cities if you wish
and they were going home and before they
crossed over to the eastern side they
had built an altar a misbeha
something which the Torah seems to it
doesn't seem says that you one should
not do for all sacrifices should be
given on the misbehan
which at that time was in Shilo.
So when the other um tribes had heard
what happened, the other the the tribes
on the western side were going north
also to their place and they saw what
these other tribes told. So here you say
this is what we read in the book of
Yahushua the end of Yahosua and perbeck
the sec 22nd
chapter all of Joshua Yoshua has only 24
chapters. It is at the end there.
>> Okay.
>> And it says there when um
then they came to the Reubenites,
Gadites and the half tribe of Manasha.
So they came to this two these two and a
half tribes up north and they said to
them, "What is this treachery that you
have committed this day against God?
Turning away from him and building an
altar and rebelling Hashem." Again it's
the top of page number four uh the seven
thing and in English there um
is a s sin of poor we read the sin of
poor at the very end of parat balak of
where Israel were tempted by the
daughters of Midian and Moab and they uh
they observed they they actually
worshiped the idolatry of poor he says
and that sin
caused the destruction of thousands of
Israelites and says is a sin of poor
which brought a plague upon us such a
small thing. We have not even purified
ourselves to this day and now you turn
away from God again to worship something
else. That's what the whole point is. If
you rebel against Hashem today, tomorrow
his anger will be directed at the entire
community of Israel. You think that
you're going to do something bad and
it's okay. We'll be okay. Call is
we are committed for one another. Your
sins we will be punished for. Just like
the des the spies did, we all were, you
know, so how can you do this? And then
they say the following which I felt is a
very very powerful thing in giving up
what I said and what we were discussing
about the holiness or nonholiness of
these po portions of land that they took
over. And they said these are Israelites
turn to the two and a half tribes and
say to them if it is because the land of
your holding is impure
cross over to the land of Hashem's
holding. Now, is there anything more
clear of what they were saying? That's
not really God's holding. That's not
what he really wanted. You just saw he
wanted to live there and not there. If
you think it's so terrible that you had
to make a
a a some sort of worship, so why don't
you come to our side? It's a powerful
thing. It means that's not your land
isn't holy. Your land wasn't what God
wants. And he says, and they go on to
say, where the tabernacle, the Mishkan
abides, and acquire properties
properties among us, which is by the way
exactly what God said to the future
leaders. I mean, what Hashem said to the
f I should have got Hashem. Moshe what
Moshe said to the future leaders if they
don't they don't deal the deal you know
of leading you in war if they don't do
what they supposed to then let them get
back and you will they'll find their
portions in the um western part of the
Jordan you know so they're only it's
only because of the condition they that
they did fulfill they have this eastern
part so they're saying so if you don't
want the eastern part because you think
it's not you know come over to our part
that's where you should be anyway. But
do not rebel against God or against us
by building an altar other than the
altar of the eternal God.
The uniqueness of of Torah and of the
belief and faith of Israel,
there are many uniquenesses, but they
have this thing of
Israel.
The concept of monotheism is still to
this day not widely it is widely but
it's not completely accepted. It's not
even
>> Huh. Yeah. You know, I used to get I I
used to get I still get set when we were
kids where I've seen in some shoes they
still sing.
All right. And they finish with Shimo
Shimo.
It's so wonderful. It's a trinity. His
name, his name, his name is all one.
It's not our religion. But that religion
which is monotheistic in quotation
yeah there's one god but there are
certain different parts of him we don't
believe in that that concept of oneness
means also we have one bikdash we have
one mskan yes we can pray differently
but giving corbano giving really ritual
sacrifices only one because that's the
uniqueness of Israel and of Judaism.
That's the the purity of the
understanding that there is no power
that has anything that to overdo because
then gone. I mean
the villa for example and many
don't like that when we Yoshi was
sounding the chauffeur on on Shana. So
they have in between the sounds this the
chauffeur sounds the first ones there's
a you think that all the angels should
bring our prayers up the go says I don't
pray to to angels the angels should pray
to god for us we pray and he takes it
out of his m and most today have it in
parenthesis or some don't say this
because of that that's the oneness that
we have it's the one which we cannot
understand.
So that's what they're aggravate. They
were aggravated at there's only one
place you should be dabbling. You should
be coming to Sheilo and that's also the
brilliance of the oneness. How do you
keep a
one nation
that will eventually get spread around
the world, exiled not once but twice,
maybe even three times all over the
place and keep them just as one nation?
How does it do it? And when your bet
mikdash is destroyed and there's no one
place to go to, how do you keep it that
way? What is the one thing that takes
keeps us together even without a a a
holy temple and a one altar? What is the
one thing that we all commonly have the
Torah and that's what kept us going you
know whether it's Ashkanazi
even somewhat they also believe in the
Torah they also have so this is what
keeps us together and I may not know the
tunes what the Yemenites Jews are
singing and I may not understand the
exact uh um the the exact translation
that you find in Hong Kong with Chinese
that. But you know what I do know? I go
into a shore. I know what the dening is.
I I recognize the this I recognize all
of this. That's the magnificent. And
that's the secret of the unity and the
existence, the ability to exist
for 2, 3,000 years when we're all over
the place. And God knows we never agree
with anybody. So given the fact that we
still imagining us still together as one
nation, it's the oneness the you the
next book
the uniqueness of oneness
and that's the crucial thing of our
amuna. That's what it is and that's what
they were getting upset about. how what
are you doing with this? Now, it was
explained to them, um, you
misunderstand, you know, um, and they
explained to them, "No, we weren't
making an altar to God. It was merely a
monument." And you know why? Because
what's going to happen in a couple
years, not a year, not two, not even 20,
but in 200 years,
and we're going to be living over there,
and you're going to be over here, and
you're going to say, "Well, you're
outsiders. You're foreigners.
God is our God. This Torah is our Torah,
not yours. And I wanted to make sure
that you understood that we wanted to
that we're part of you. So we put up
this monument to people should know for
years and years and years in Evan like
that and a rock, a stone monument. You
understand what stone is? Evan is Evan
is two words of Ben.
It's an a and a Ben. a father and a
child. It is generations
and that's what the Evan it will survive
for generations onward and onward. That
is what that and they made that stone
monument. So for in the future when
they're not around and you guys aren't
around, you weren't here, you don't
remember that was leading you in the
wars, you would know that we're part of
this nation. Beautiful idea. But what it
teaches us, going back to my point,
being a rabbi, of course, I go off on a
tangent. Um,
that it seems to be saying, this really
was not the real land and you're just
uh, you know, you just broke away and
went over there. That's what they were
saying. Your land is not holy and our
land is.
And as I finish that and I've hurt my
arm a little bit for you know patting
myself on the back
the truth is that we make unfortunately
we have to go and learn safer
and then let me see the opposite seems
to be true and that's what we're going
to go to now. Okay. Um
and we begin with the story that we
began with here, the story of uh in
Bidbar, the book before about the
conquest of the lands of Sikhon and Og.
And then we listen to the same story as
being told by Mosher Rabenu in Sepher
Devarim. And I think I may have touched
this last time and if I did, please
forget it. Uh, and it says there we see
>> now. Well, we finished number seven.
Guess what we're after now?
>> Good. Yeah, figure that. I have my
calculator. I got it together. I went
from seven to eight. So, we are in still
page four. We are in seven where it's
from Dvarim. Yeah. And there we see
that uh in the very second chapter of
Dvarim in paratim
Moshe reminds them of what had just
happened to them. Remember this is in
the 40th year of the desert when Moshe
starts his speech and he starts it just
a couple of weeks after the um war with.
So he now reminds them what happened
just a couple of weeks ago and he says
remember how
God told me to let you lay more so I
should tell you this
I want you to get up um and go. He says
arise and cross the unknown body um
behold I will give you and his land. I'm
going to give it to you. He's not saying
maybe the two and a half tribes will
fight for it. Doesn't say that. He said
I'm giving it to you. So begin the
occupation and engage him in battle. Now
maybe you remember the story and maybe
you do not. And that's okay because God
knows I don't remember anything either.
And that is back in why was there a war
with Sonog? Was it because God said to
them, "I want you to go and I want you
to take over this land."
Why didn't they fight have to fight with
And
>> they they didn't let him. Okay. The
other one, but they came out to fight
them. They attacked Israel. They
attacked the nation and therefore they
had to defend themselves. Nowadays, we
don't believe in that. Nowadays we have
wars that they're allowed to you know to
attack you and to kill you but you have
to sit there and say gee that was bad.
You have to understand that but in those
days when you were attacked you have to
defend yourself. And yes
I know I have to stop getting a
political but I can't I'm not being
political. I'm just being truthful.
And that is very simple.
You have an obligation to
get rid of those people who want to
destroy you. As simple as that. Is it
not complicated, right?
Today it is. That's what it is. So
therefore, he's
back in the midbar. There we read that
everything was going well. They went to
the uh the Amal Lake. I'm sorry, not
Amal Lake because I'm not a lake. Uh it
went to um uh the the the the
nations of Moav, Ammon, Edom,
asked them, "Please, can we go walk
through the uh highways and we won't
take it?" They said, "No, you can't. I
can't blame them. You know, what do you
like? Let's take three million
immigrants come right in here." And uh
you know, you know, they didn't want to
do that. I understand it, you know.
Fine. Um
and they said just don't don't you dare
come in. And so God told them this is
the land I had given to uh the the
descendants of Lot and of Asaf. That's
theirs not yours. So don't you touch
them. When came
they don't say no you can't. They come
back and they attack.
comes to him and says, "Even before they
attacked, even before perhaps they said
you can't come, God tells Moshe, tell
the people go and fight cuz I'm giving
them the land." Now, this seems to tell
me that God always had the plan that
this is part of this was part of the
promised land. That seems what it's
telling me, not true.
That's why this is such a fascinating
discussion.
You have proofs one way and proofs the
other way. After all, the the in
Yahushua the the Israelites are saying
that's not a holy land. I I have an
answer to that. You know, I don't know
if it's a good answer or not. God knows
that the ones who were living on the
western side did feel that they were
outsiders. God didn't think so, but they
felt that was wrong that you shouldn't
you should be here. Kenzine as we say in
a part of the you know British English
could be but in here in it's clear it
says behold he says he said uh at this
day I I begin to put the dread and fear
of you upon the the peoples everywhere.
It's not just you're going to defend
these two powerful nation, but when
people see that they're going to sit and
they're going to really start trembling
and then they shall tremble and quake
whenever they hear your name mentioned.
We do the same to you today.
Now they curse and then tell the same
thing. Behold, I have begun placing and
higant at your disposal. Once again, I'm
giving it to you. begin the occupation
and take possession of his land. Wow.
Gee, Mosha, you're changing the story a
little bit. You forgot that old thing
about the doesn't mention it. Doesn't me
does it.
It God says after the war, he says, "You
know what? I'm giving to them motion."
And now Gibb is the story that the heck
with the hat that you you came and to
and to to defend and to take over the
Israelites. No, God has made a decision
now that you showed that you're going to
do something that you're not going to
stay back and say, "God will help. He'll
make us do it. It's okay. We don't have
to do anything." He saw that you went
and fought and defended. God says, "I'm
giving you the land." And that seems to
be what's happening over here. Uh and so
and so forth. So here we see that God
had promised he's going to do that.
Now think about this when we go back a
little bit to the other wars and battles
even from the ones in the desert, right?
This is the first time this happens when
Amale came and attacked Israel in the
beginning or their first a couple of
weeks after they left uh Egypt, right?
They defeated Amale in the desert,
right? God didn't say go occupy their
land. No.
uh they defeated in par
beginning of
and there we read that the Canaanites
came right from
and they defeated them also
right
and they and that was just months before
did he tell them okay take over their
lands No,
that was the 40th year in the desert.
The only time God tells them go and take
over the lands would seem to be only
those lands that he had promised that he
was going to give them. I didn't promise
these lands. You got to go around them.
You be you can defend yourself, but
you're not going to take over the land.
Comes now. He said take over the land.
And that included the lands of and og I
have given you and that's what it says
that words of
by the way you'll find that in this
week's part of at the very end. Listen
carefully
last the last few verses of
the maf. It says exactly that that God
says I'm going
I'm giving to you
and therefore go and take over the land.
I'm giving it to you. God says it's my
gift to you.
See so it seems right.
And that's why by the way he also says
later on
he goes over here we read that in this
eighth thing the when he says he said go
be begin the occupation and engage him
in battle. That's what he's saying.
And uh that's by the way I'm not going
to spend my time now uh even though I
did give you a ninth source which um we
actually have it back in in the fourth
source. I put it down at the bottom of
the page, but it's actually back in that
page. I guess it was two the s the
dalled this source of how they also uh
defeated and took over the land of og
but he also used the tati not I've given
you I've given you I've given you not go
and and go take it over take it over and
you know conquer it. That constant
repetition would seem that even though
um the individual families of the two
and a half tribes independently
it seemed had conquered the specific
areas which of course was some specific
areas now which wasn't 100% true. In
other words, it was really conquered big
adul we'd say the whole area by the
Israelite army. But these specific areas
where they were going to settle and they
eventually
uh uh took away and that was by the
families of the two and a half tribes
that Yer and Manasha did this and that
was certainly Manasha. Manasha wasn't in
the beginning the ones who were going on
that so they they didn't so on and so
forth and uh this concept this idea that
God gave it to you and the the the idea
that the usage here of rash or laet is
not only as it's usually translated by
the way as um um to chase them out uh to
defeat them to conquer for them. The
word yaleset ties into the word, you
also know this. What's a yusha?
What's a yusha? Right? It's a heritage.
It's yours.
How can you be a how can it be a
heritage to you? How can it become how
can it be inherit a heritage to Israel
if they're first coming in? Answer.
>> Three answers.
That's your heritage from your
forefathers.
That's why it says laet doesn't mean as
it keep on meaning and you shall cap you
know you shall conquer it you sell it
you're going to inherit it it's an
inheritance to you it's giving nati it's
my I'm I have given it I have given it
to you back in the time of
in fact we have who often will comment
comment in the Torah when it says
You see that in in you see that in all
over that I've promised to and it says
yeah even though they hadn't given it he
hasn't given them specifically it's
their inheritance to give over to you
and that's what this is about also um
and that lets us such now we're going to
have the time available
say okay this is wonderful. I have an
idea. It's true. We have two things I'm
beginning to understand.
But let's see now.
The first time the land is promised to
Aram is in back in Parli.
It's called the Brit Bhabitim,
the covenant of the pieces. What a
horrible name. Anyway, uh the brick
binarim
was when God tells um
Abraham. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm sorry I um I
didn't have this as a source because I
was tired. Anyway, so there we come in
brait.
It says, "And Bayu at that time that day
after God appeared in a dream to Abraham
was in effect not sleeping but almost
unconscious. Um,
I have given this land to your
descendants. I have given it to you."
Right.
Um, and which ones? Minim
from the the river, the whatever the
stream of Egypt.
We don't know exactly what that is, but
we have an idea. Huh?
>> You found it.
>> No, you get it.
>> Yeah. Okay. Um,
I'm glad I found it.
Hagadon.
So it's in, let's say, the Sinai all the
way up to the Euphrates River. It's a
big piece of land there, right? And that
includes, listen to me, I'm giving this
to you.
We had we had we had we had
a lot of them. Let's see. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 10
nations that God told Abraham, I'm
giving it to you and your descendants.
Wow.
What did I mention a couple of you weeks
ago, a couple of minutes ago? What were
the nations? How many nations were
there?
You're not listening. I'm a little
disappointed.
What nations did they take over?
>> Seven.
>> The seven nations.
Seven of them. But he's telling me 10
here. A little strange, is it not?
Abraham was promised 10 nations and we
always go on throughout the Torah of the
seven nations
to Torah says the five nations right
there is a difference.
Those seven nations were basically
on the western side. Some are on the
eastern side of the right. So if the 10
nations really however encompass all the
both sides of the Jordan
um how is it that n Israel take over
seven nations not 10 and if they did
also now with and did they not also take
over
these nations too what's happening
well The reality is and that's where we
get to the map. I don't know if you any
of you have this map. I gave it out I
think before and some people are smart
enough to keep it. Others were smart
enough to give it back to me. Um this is
good.
This is a map. It will help you
understand
the kingdoms of Son. You have it right?
>> No, no, no. I think I have another one.
Okay. Here.
>> Okay. I'll keep listening. Okay. Right.
Very good.
>> Um, so you see that though you can if
you can share that would be great.
>> So why you see here the territories of
Ru and God and half of Manasha. Do you
see
uh it is see it says it says Trans
Jordan. I mean it's a very old map.
They're still transing it. Um that's
above. Now look on the other side on the
right side you'll see where og ammon and
moav are and og are. You see where the
moabites and the ammon ammonites and you
have the also the others others of the
um also on the east of that but
not above that. So what they took over
Son and Ogue were not the three
the three um
the three nations that were you know
part of the 10 cuz God didn't lie. God
told Ara I'm giving you 10 nations
right for your future generations.
The seven we know of. The three
were the descendants of Lot who was in
effect because it was brought up by Aram
though it was his his nephew it was it
was his this generation's future and
Asaf who is believe it or not though he
may not have bragged about it a grandson
of Aram. So therefore
given that truth these were all given to
all 10 were given to Abraham but seven
of them were given to ye and Jacob.
The other the three that is Ammon, Moav
and Edom.
They were the three on the eastern side
of the Jordan that were descendants of
Aram um but not of Yakov.
And this is why we don't have to feel
guilty about what they were doing.
That's what it is. And um in fact, you
see it in you see it all the time. And
God says to them, you may not war with
these nations. And he says, and I'll
give it to you again. It's not there.
It's and it says to them um and is when
he came to the uh the um he said you are
now crossing the or near the um borders
of the ben as of the descendants of
Asavosim.
They live in which is Edom. Uh and um
they're afraid of you but you be very
careful. Don't start up with them.
Garubam don't start a war with them
because I will not give you any part of
their land even one footstep of it
because I gave this to the the
descendants of Esau of Asov not to you
that's your descendants of Abraham but
not you and therefore that's one and
then when it came to Moab to the
Moabites same thing the same thing don't
you dare without a war with them. I'm
not going to give you any part of the
land because it is an inheritance to
Benet Lot and therefore that's theirs.
Um and in fact it adds a very
interesting thing and that is oh you
know the people who lived there uh was a
great people called the aim and also
they were al and these this these aim
were also called um rifim and it was the
moabites who called them aim but they
were really rifim that was their
original side. Why is that important?
Because when I go on later on, you see
that uh it talks about the but okay
skipping right and then to Ammon also
the same thing. He says you're getting
close to Ammon. Ammon's not allowing you
to cross through their land but don't
start up with them. Just say okay no
shrug your soldiers and go around. And
that's what they did. They shrugged
their shoulders and said God said I'm
not allowed to. Do you understand the
powerful here that this story is? Let me
show I'm going to give this to you in
our next class. I'm going to give you a
next I I'll jump to the next class and I
beginning the laws the stores of of you
understand the power here
in year number one
and it was the time that was number two
you know it was a it was the sin of the
miracle right God said to them okay it
was before this the sin and therefore
they were planning to go right into the
land you know after one here. Um, and he
said, "Go and go and fight and take over
the land." What happened? What did the
moral said? We can't. We not going to
fight because they're too strong for us
and we'll never convince
the mim they're called. And they said,
"We were wrong. I have another telling
me that we're going to hang around here
for 40 more years. Uh we changed our
mind and we're going to go in and we
will fight like God told us to. And
Moshe said
this is really a little bit. And he
said, "God said, no, God's not going to
help you here. No, we're going to fight.
We're going to fight." So they went up
and guess what happened? When God told
them not to fight, what did they do now?
They went to Fort and they lost.
Now, what happens now in year 40 when
they're very close to entering the land?
They come to a land that they could take
over, that they had every right to take
over. But God said to them, "Don't you
fight against them. This is Ammon. This
is adome. This is um Bo, not yours." So,
what did they do? They didn't fight.
And then comes
it seems to be the exact same thing.
They also said no. But God said you can
fight them and take over. And what did
they do? And they did. In year number
two, when God said fight, they said not
going to fight. And when he said don't
fight, they fought. In year 40, they now
come when God said don't fight, they
didn't fight. When they said fight,
fight. You see the difference between
the generations over year two and year
40.
Wow.
You wouldn't realize that until you come
to my next week's class. I'm not going
to teach you this. So that's exactly
what why Dorian started. So here we are.
And that is what's happening here. That
is why it was okay for them to take over
in the lands of Sikhon and O because
they were not the ones promised to a to
Abraham.
Abraham prom the three that they didn't
fight with were given to Arab's
descendants but not Yah's descendants
but the others with them and I mentioned
about about
um that was called powerful and called
amim and so on and so forth. Um you look
back at
in the
parad is it
let's take and there's a fight of the
three kings against the four kings so on
and so forth who were fighting leading
the fighting um
astro kayim the three
the actually the four kings the kingdoms
defeated the five kingdoms among them
Rifaim, the people who live right
exactly there. uh and the Zuzim and the
Amim all of them were the people the
they were lands in the hand lands of the
the Emory as in
you know but this part was the northern
part not the part that was going to be
given to the others and that's why they
were able to go and defeat and take over
and
that's why
And then finally, I'll finish here
because uh it's gotten
we still say, hey, great story, Rabbi
Winkler. Wonderful. But the end of
Bidbar, it says this is the portion
portionating to portioning to all of
these uh the tribes and it goes through
and it gives us a border of the Yard,
not the other side of the Jordan. That's
the Jordan and the Sa and the Yam, you
know, from the from the the
from the river to the sea. That's Yeah.
Oh, I'm sorry. Anyway, they that that
that was their um and it wasn't any of
this and and didn't aortion it to any
other part, but that's true. However,
however,
that it says this is a heart
big goal that you'll be given big goal.
You know what goal is?
Oh, come on. Live in Israel, huh?
Lottery.
said they a lot of you know then put
your hand in come out you know that
that's your portion
those of the nine and a half tribes were
given big goal
but the others weren't given by lottery
they were given by God's gift to them as
he had they had he had planned to have
and because they wanted to live there he
said fine you don't have to be aortioned
out because We know that's a and that's
why it doesn't indicate any type of
contradiction that hey how can you tell
me that this is only the go borders and
that's all those the only borders that
were given by lottery
the rest of the stuff is still part of
it that God wanted to be and therefore
it wasn't given by lottery and that
takes care of that problem so I thought
that was very interesting and um in the
end
I guess it's The story is that um this
land was meant to be divided among the
nation of Israel as part of the promised
land.
But God waited to hear the requests from
the two tribes, right? He wanted to hear
not that okay, we're going in, but it
was I think the first time that we hear
a desire that we want to come into the
land, we want this land.
Okay. Admittedly, the rest of Israel
didn't say, "Oh, we don't want it." Like
they did back in the tent with the
spies, but they didn't say, "Okay, we
can't wait. Let's go in." They don't say
that. Those two tribes do.
God waited for that to happen. And
therefore, he commanded it to the tribes
that they have to get this, giving them
credit for that
desire, that yearning to take over the
land. Um
and uh what
>> I have a question.
>> Thank god only one. Yeah.
>> Um I see
and but I don't see adome
is more to my this this um map did not
include Edon. Edome is a little south
and east of the Moabites and the you
know and that's actually probably lower
than that.
>> Is not on the map. No, the the map
wasn't big enough.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. But it is and it is
>> south.
>> Huh? It's south and east.
>> Southeast.
>> Yeah. So therefore, it wasn't even part
of the thing. Right. Exactly. Right. So
in effect, that's what happened here. I
think Ra made in fact I remember saying
and I wrote it down for me that um in
effect therefore Moshe really did enter
the land of Israel. Oh,
>> that he did enter the land of Israel
because uh indeed he conquered part of
it, did he not? When he took over these
lands,
you and um all because
there were two tribe who expressed their
love for the land,
a land they knew that was promised to
the children of Abraham.
And God rewarded them and all of Israel
with that only because they love to be
in the land of Israel.
Even though the five towns is very nice.
So
>> you see what I said? Stay. I remember
they this cry. I started this this year
with the cry of the 19 in the 1940s.
Both sides of the Jordan belong to us.
Well, God God thought so, too. But God
thought so. All right. Thank have a
wonderful Shabas and a good year
beforehand.
Come back with a love of Israel and the
desire to be there.