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we're going to start from the very beginning of the paraa so if you have your sources it's not it's not the First Source from the beginning because I went back to the beginning of the peric but rather I direct to start from it's per a told noik now we're told two things at the same time we're told about a corrupt society and we're told about a person who is going to be given a task to survive which is essentially all all that happens and as a background to this there's also something must have happened now I want to be very clear to make this easy today and that is I want to try to figure out why what happened had happened look I don't know the answer to this question if we were watching a society in front of us devolve or Society become corrupt or Society falling apart would we necessarily know it if that's what we were as we were seeing it I mean some of you would say absolutely and and and some of us perhaps would question how much awareness people would have as things are taking place but in order to understand the antecedence I think we need to First have a better understanding of what it is that happened and For Better or For Worse and the truth is 98% for better but you'll see there's a 2% we we learned a lot of this as kids we learned a lot of this again I don't know how far back to go could be already in it could be already in kindergarten kids learn this and and they learned the story and they learned what people did wrong and right there we're going to have a little bit of a problem because if you're going to talk to Children about this then I think that one needs to perhaps to sanitize things a bit now Rashi actually does some of that there is some discussion regarding who rashi's intended audiences which means is Rashi writing to the adult is Rashi writing to the child is RA again who is Rashi writing or is Rashi writing to everybody and then people can take Rashi on different levels which I think is more often than not the case thebi who did a lot of work on Rashi he claimed that Rashi was speaking to children and again that itself is is interesting in this week's par maybe we can appreciate that but let's go to the beginning and then I'll show you exactly what concerns me so we're not told that much about him i' I've many times have pointed out that the word sadic is not if I mention the rebbi then I can mention I can mention the bov the word sadik here is not in the bovian sense it doesn't mean that he was in Admar it doesn't mean that he was a sadik in a Biblical terminology in biblical terminology means innocent it is a legal term it is not one which speaks about someone's Soul it speaks about somebody's guilt or innocence again in a legal sense which means by saying that he was innocent and only telling us that he's innocent actually is telling us a lot because then it's saying that everyone else is Not Innocent remember when Abraham argues and he says maybe there he's not saying there are 50 in in stone what he's saying is that maybe there are 50 innocent people in stone innocent how could the judge of the whole world you know kill the innocent with the guilty again it it's a legal terminology so we're told over here and it's interesting he follows elim he does what's right or maybe even more so he doesn't do what's wrong and also to be honest we don't know anything about them we don't know at this point certainly not about their innocence or their guilt but and that's the first word that we're gonna have to pay attention to so as much as two verses ago we're told that Noah walked with elim now we're told and there's only one problem right now and that is that we don't know the word but means I would be sympathetic to say that it means became corrupt the world became corrupt and but I'm saying that right now out of a out of a lack of an ability of saying anything more and we're going to all see in a moment that the word corrupt is not enough and the world was fed withas which everyone right now I'm sure has uh some thoughts about but now we actually have two words to contend with one word is and the other word is which then went back to that word so again I'm just for argument sake I'm happy to use the word corrupt and God sees that the land has be or the world has become corrupt it's because because all of Flesh had become corrupt on Earth and God tells Noah that everything has been filled with and here some nice Poetic Justice so these two words the word are the two words that we have to figure out and as I said we have to figure out what they mean and then perhaps we can go backwards a little bit and then we could try to figure out what it is what is the source for this again what's the antecedent for this and perhaps again where where all of this came from Rashi it's in source to now again we need to take a look at what what verse it was that he directed us towards that's in S three so what it talks about there is a warning of not of not becoming corrupt by virtue of making idolatry so Rashi actually just now told us that the corruption again I'm using that word the corruption over here is a corruption in terms of again we'll go in order in terms of idolatry in terms of sexuality and we also know that there's a correlation between those two things for many many reasons I'm not going to pursue that anymore right now than we need to in Source number four it actually adds another element but this is mid they were idolators using that verse that rash utilized so now it adds another element that Hamas is is theft and if you go back and look at Rashi I'm sorry going back and forth if if you look at Rashi back and Source two towards the end so all kinds of terrible things come to the world that once the plague comes it strikes both the good and the bad so Rashi is identifying with stealing so or robbery so at this point we have idolatry sexual sins and robbery going back to Source Four M A it then adds another element at the end of the second line but there's another opinion what does mean that they were guilty of murder as well and and It quotes the verse this [Music] so it speaks about again the word but connected with the spilling of blood so it it's by this point now that we talk about a corruption that has taken place we realize that the corruption is on many different fronts what Rashi had told us has its source in the gamorra and sour five as well so what does the corruption mean again sexual sins and idolatry so it's understanding that as the sexual sins talking about Sin sins of the flesh jumping to that verse in which use the word pesel as well so therefore you see that the word is used in both of these contexts in uh in in Source number six the N identifies that verse with the destruction of the first he's commenting on but let's remember something else again I want to take all these random statements and make all of this a bit clearer once the if took us to destruction of the first temple there's something else that we know and what's that that the first temple is destroyed because of three things so therefore when we've seen over here strands of commentaries or midashim telling us that oh corruption what is corruption and pointing us towards idolatry towards sexual sins towards murder so none of that should be a surprise to us because it's almost for us the definition and therefore the N again when he says he goes no that's the structure of the first temple and that then just ties all of these things together in Source number seven this is someone who's very well known in Hal much not as well known in as a commentary and that is someone who wrote a book called The TR very important safer in terms of Ash here he's commenting on the golden calf so there it says they made a pesel AAR is Easy by the way all of us know that there's a there's another thing which is there and what's that because we know the whole backr the backstory in terms of who tries to stop them they kill so there is an element there of both murder and of idolatry but the third thing it says then so what he is doing over here is he's trying to explain what the word l means and he points out in various context that the word L has a connotation of I don't necessarily say a sexual sin but of sexuality and again we can read this a little bit and was killed as well again because rash there teases a simple reading of the text it points more towards the sexual sin course there's a number of places that we see the term made marry if you will having connotations of sexual sins as we find that that is looking through the window and there we're told is that we're told that so we see we see it in in that context he then goes on I'm going to skip a little B the third line but there's another indication that it was really why it says there it says your people have become corrupt so therefore he's saying but the word corruption so therefore God is the one who said that they became corrupt and we see all over now by the way this is really interesting because we kind have had a line just now that maybe maybe part of it was easy for us and the only part was harder for us maybe would have been the flood let's start all over again if I would have said that there's some kind of a correlation between what happened with the golden calf and the destruction of the first temple I would have had very little resistance to that I would have pointed out the day that it happened was y bamos right mosa goes up 40 days right he goes up around the six seventh of Sian 40 Days Later is yud bamas that's when Moshe comes down that's when they're making the calf yud bamas of course is the date that later on will be the beginning of the destruction of the first temple so I'm saying all of that's easy not not only that go a little bit further we know that the first temple is destroyed because of those three sins and now you move backwards to the golden CF and you say hold it the golden CF was not just idolatry there was also murder there was also a sexual outrage which took place there which means to draw the correlation between those two elements and and by the way what is actually the link that now we know that we didn't know when we started today what's the link it's the word and that word is the one again the N told us you know make sure when you go to the land you're not going to do these things he goes That's what actually destroyed the first temple right that's what the warning was about on the other hand When God says no that there's corruption over there so what is the corruption so so again I'm just saying is that that was the easy part to draw the parallel between the golden calf with everything wrapped around it together with structure of the first temple so what did we gain today we just did one more thing and what was that we were looking for the word because that word is used multiple times in describing the background which caused the flood to happen so now we realize that whatever was taking place place by the time of the flood has a correlation a similarity there's something over here connecting between what happens by destruction of the first temple and for that matter what happens by the golden calf and again all that we're pointing out then is that you the use of that word which we may not have been as sensitive to we would again we read read the flood we just kind of read it through okay everything's bad everyone's corrupt but we again that's my question what does corruption mean now I was a one could be a little give one second one could be a little bit unfair because I said when they teach in school what was that happened they said oh because they would what was the thing like Rashi said at the end they were guilty of stealing and everybody knows the ri yes the ri that's people would walk into a store and everyone would take a little bit to eat a little bit less than shevo so no one could be but by the way that's a very sophisticated interpretation of what happened that that assumes that there's a justice system that ass assumes that there are Judges around there's assume that there's decency that there's laws with all due respect it sounds to me that that's not what's taking place over there at all it sounds to me what's taking place is much more of a situation of power and might and the strong are the ones who are in control and they're just taking whatever it is that they want and therefore even though Rashi had told us along the way oh there are sexual sins and there's idolatry again I think especially when kids are taught this they're saying oh no the main thing is gazel if you're a teacher in it's school you can say very good lesson out of it and be careful not to take something even of very little value from anybody that's what ended up bringing the flood and so on and so forth of course the problem with the the okay before I get to the problem the good side of this is you said a very good lesson the downside of this is it's totally extreme and not proportionate it's not going to be because somebody took less than a Chev pruta that's going to destroy the entire world that that that does not really make sense and and yes you can tell me I I can show you the shami I know the sh me I I I know what it says and nonetheless if you're looking for it's your sh me and BBA msia periced so yes it says that there but it seems to be a little bit stronger what we've been seen till now now everything I've done till now has ignored the larger piece of evidence yes and predictably the midashim on what it is that yes did will offer all of those possible interpretations that he wanted to kill that there were sexual sins there was idolatry they'll do the exact same thing in correct you're intuition first of your memory is good secondly the your intuition is good because that's exactly what K do they say because why because the word also could have these things but again the stronger word was and that was what we saw in the Tres he goes no let's not work on all that much let's go to that's the stronger word and as I said I don't have a good definition for it yet and I all the word that I use was corruption so we have corruption and we also have Kamas Kamas till now we've interpreted as gazel taking things taking things that aren't there but as I said we've ignored something to see what it is that we ignored remember from the very beginning we started and I told you Let's ignore the first couple of verses let's go to the beginning of the paraa nonetheless our favorite Archbishop Archbishop of canbury when he made the chapters he made the chapter start a little bit earlier for us it's the end of braid as opposed to the beginning of Noah but nonetheless it's it's peric and let's take a look because it really is an introduction to What's Happening Here by the way completely unremarkable that when people became more numerous there were daughters that were born to them yes 50% of the time approximately that's what should happen which means what what in the world is it telling you if it's just meant to tell you something which was obvious now I would translate B Elohim even though I hope you realize that just trying to figure out who's who and what's going on in this section is incredibly challenging first of all let's make sure we don't call this B Elohim I think that would be much more of a theological problem the Ben Elohim what when we call God Elohim we're saying what would be the best English translation of that the almighty why because the word l means power so the Benet Elohim which means the sons of the powerful which means that we have powerful people who were doing things we're about to see which were inappropriate wow that's unique right I I said That's Unique the sons of the powerful men saw the daughters of manot how should we translate toot I mean it's not exactly the same thing when God looks and says oh where I mean that's right over here attractive we can do that as you [Music] want and they took for themselves women whoever they chose now what in the world do you do with that verse now some of you may say wow that's really romantic it's really nice and some of you may hopefully say no that's not as romantic as perhaps some people think a matter of fact God's response is and God sees that that man's heart does bad things all the time and God now a lot I don't know how many people wrote me this week it's as if they never noticed this before how could it be that God has second thoughts right I guess this isn't buyer's regret this is Creator's regret go God by that's really interesting turn of phrase and and I don't think it's as simple as we think first all the root it's have we seen it yet in the Torah yeah multiple times we've seen it by the punishment of Eve and the punishment of Adam so that's that's interesting and and he's also in terms of working the grounds it's also the word ETV is used yeah it's used you want me to take out the it's it's used by both which is really interesting because the word is used as a result to sin so which isans we're supposed to have I'm I'm getting carried away it's okay I'm telling you I'm getting carried away where did the whole story begin in the Garden of Eden I'm willing to say that Eden and ETV are two opposites it's supposed to be a place of pleasure instead it becomes a place of ETV okay if again if you want I'm I told you if you want I could say I'm getting carried away but it's okay I'm I'm allowed to but but nonetheless that's going to that you should notice the other thing is I know the way to read the way that everyone would read it the first time is that God [Music] Mourns that he of course the problem there is so there are M that say that maybe God should have just created things that are create connected to the heavens rather than us who are made of Flesh because when made of Flesh what follows sins of the flesh follow so even again even though this is really easy my job is to make it hard who's hard a matter of fact go back not so far one verse and man's heart is totally obsess with doing things which are evil now that's such an interesting turn of phrase now that God has because of Libo because of how man is using his heart which means you all see what I just now did and it wasn't complicated it's almost staring at you when you're looking at it because it's the previous verse and it's this verse and that was the last La that we were talking about which means essentially God created us with Free Will and God is is uh disappointed that we keep making the wrong decisions and I'm going to say it again the use of the word where God has ET is interesting the other thing which is interesting is the is the other word which we saw over here I mean am I the only one who sees it or you see it also do you see what's in the middle of that word Noah right so Noah is kind of hiding over there God but there is something which is hidden and that is someone like Noah who does the right thing or at least doesn't do the bad thing and again if you think it's my imagination but so again you see it there also is really interesting because it's Noah inverted the no so you have this whole section of God lamenting the state of the world that the world has become someplace which is corrupt the reason the world is corrupt is because of man who's created with the ability of making choices and God is lamenting the choices which man has made again this idea that man is being mashit is going to be followed by God doing which again that's the Poetic Justice over here that the world will become Mas as well and therefore essentially there are consequences to our Behavior which is really interesting because there are quote unquote natural consequences the reason why natural is not the best word to use it's not really that nature it's nature in the service of God and at the very end God says I'm not going to keep on doing things like this because this is the way that man is but um that's part part of I think a larger thought about what really changed from before and and after having said all this we can now move over to try to figure out whatas meant Rashi told us it me gazel if we go and look at source number eight Theus says that means people are grabbing things right are grabbing things thei right so so you have again you have gazel things are being are being taken the Ezra says something which is so good so to the point and so correct because all that Ezra does differently than uh than we did till now is that he acknowledges that we should have started by the beginning of the chapter and he writes which means when it says the world was full ofas and everything became corrupt all that he did is he went back to the beginning of the chapter of the powerful people taking the girls or taking the women so he says it's not just that they're going to a store and each person is eating a grape rather it's go by the way that this lesson you know who really worked for my wife she we go to the shook she won't she won't take a she won't taste a grape she won't taste a grape and I would I go to the guy the proprietor I said could we taste the grape to see if we like them oh of course of course like she won't do it cause again this yeah this this gu she does want to cause another flood could be that if we need rain maybe she'll start doing it so now on the topic of food okay you want a recipe there is an argument that people are V vegetarian beforehand but by the way years and years ago somebody heard one of my classes I talked to something about eating meat and he writes me and he says isn't it true that in Judaism the highest levels to be vegetarian and he and he says because Adam and Eve were vegetarians before the sin I said they were also walking around naked like what's your point go ahead yes yes okay we're going to leave your question and we'll find we'll find a good time to come back to it and I have nothing against vegetarianism I just have a problem when people try to force it into Jewish law or theology I find that sometimes a little interesting I know I and I rev cook rev cook wrote okay we're not doing this rev cook has a book on vegetarianism that he didn't write he didn't write it rather rather some his son and another student the Nazir they who were both vegetarians they cut and pasted from some of his other works and they put this book but he uh it's just like when he's talking about the topic in general terms if Cook was not a vegetarian by the way I don't know it's a pseudo so yeah except for yeah if you want to eat Olive leaves they're a little bitter I think um rev cook in this book one of the things that he says is that the world isn't ready for vegetarianism because the Europeans will end up valuing animals more than they do human life rof cook was very depressed in World War I beforehand he was much more positive in terms of the world becoming towards peace and if we can have an a spiritual evolutionary process but uh he was very when he saw that the world going out can't even imagine what he would have thought if he would have seen World War II but uh some of his writings dur by the way he didn't get to write before him that much when he was younger he did could we not talk that much R cook but I just say he didn't have such an easy life he he he got married his wife died I think within two years and uh and was left him with a baby and then and then he remarried he married her first cousin their fathers were twins by the way twin brothers and uh he wrote when he was younger and once he got into the Raba note he didn't have as much time to write during World War I when he got stuck in Switzerland than afterwards in London he actually had a lot more time to write so he's sitting sitting and and and writing things there must let's get let's get back let's get back so that's why I said the iban Ezra is really good because he connects the Kamas with the various things and the violence now of course you're all going to say Kamas the violence of taking is also taking women which uh again that that that's what the Ezra is telling you I'm saying that that's what's really interesting goes in the same direction [Music] so again we got we got to the mall over here they're uh yes look what happens when Noah is named in Source 12 again and so on hasem so now you see the word again again over there so I'm saying don't ignore that word because that that word was there with the sin it's there when no comes into the world and then it's there afterwards When God says okay it's time to wipe things out all all of this is not a coincidence now we're going to spend as much time as we can now moving over to what I think is the place that we need need to look now that we know everything because now we know everything and that is to go back to peric doid first thing about peric doid where were're up to P I mean this is a little bit after Cen whole story of K in he that happens at the beginning of peric doid and then we continue with that line because we don't have any other line yet shet is not born yet that's going to happen right afterwards so it goes on and tells the story about the various people that are being killed being born sorry being born so and so many years and so on and so forth then we have something which is somewhat of an outlier again I want to explain exactly what I mean by this it's an outlier in the sense that it gives us too much information it's which mean till then it's really this person begat begat begat begat and it just you know goes down the line and whenever you're going to have more information you have to to stop and say why is it telling me this the ramban by the way comments on this and he says it has to be that there's a really good reason for all of this otherwise it doesn't make sense and essentially again I'll I'll I'll get way ahead of myself over here either you're going to say that there's something really good which were being told or the other possibility of course is that something really bad being told but nonetheless let's take a look peric it's Source 12 back in peric sorry that was Source 13 back in now my first question is is that good or is that bad maybe that depends if you're L if you're or if you're maybe different people will have different attitudes to that question and I'm sorry to immediately put a value judgment on this asking is this something which is which is good or bad but later on when we're told that Yakov is in yosal some of the com Aries are going to go back and quote this verse and say what does it mean to be a yosim it means that you are a shepherd and you go out with your flock to wherever it is that you wander and you build tents along the way as you spend the night wherever it is that they go grazing because there are no real boundaries that you're concerned of you just kind of go wherever you want now the thing that we should notice about this is that this is the cane line right why because he's dead and what this individual yal is doing is he's living he's life okay anything you want to say about this psychologically fixing tikon it's in right you just have to notice that I mean that that's what he's doing and he is again from the line of Cen it continues and it says now that must have really been confusing Y and and he's the first musician which means how do he become more of a Bohemian than a Shepherd right you become a musician so we'll we'll we'll we're going to have to come back and think about this for a second it's you know as much as you know we talked about the continuation of or he here is Vel so G guess what he went into he went into the arms manufacturing business so here you have somebody who's living the he life and now you have somebody who is perfecting the cayen life in a much more you know again he's not even dealing with with what Cen did Ken right was a farmer the land is cursed why bother working the land but Cen becomes a murderer so here's a guy who's making weapons and his sister is now the other thing that we should note is there have not been all that many women who've been named and we just now had three of them in uh in in really short order and then we have something else I have I don't care what any word means over here I'm just pointing out that this may be the first example of poetry because he's saying he's saying something which is clearly poetic so we try to unpack some of this first of all kazal tell us that what Le did it does not see it in a kind way it says that we'll read the mid we know this from Rashi as well but look at 14 which means this behavior is the precursor of the generation of the flood which means I don't have to work hard now and try to prove that in this section we're going to find Behavior which is going to be the antecedent of what happens when the generation of the flood arrives the med already said this it's not that's not good enough for you rash in Source 14 which means we all should have known this so when this narrative is introduced The Narrative of lch and there's two lchs by the way in case you didn't catch that you you had a you had a lch also in Source 12 who has a son named Noah here you have a different L those are two different lines you have a l from each line so the L in chapter 4 from the cayen line so first of all he's a character there's all kinds of things that you need to pay attention to he talks of Murder By the way he talks poetry but his poet is about killing that itself is really interesting he's the first rapper okay so and and by the way there's some misogyny over here as well just in case you uh you needed that also just to round things out why would I say that there's misogyny well if you continue with the midash in Source 14 it says that this is what they would do why so in case you didn't understand anything see in today's world were I really have to be careful about things that I say but in today's world we're far more sophisticated th those of you who don't know my parents celebrated their 70th Anniversary yesterday so I called I I I called I called my father I said most people to get to 70 need at least two three or four wives it's not that uh it's you know one wife 70 years is uh a you need many many things to make that happen but in today's world people they they tend they'll marry someone they're young have a bunch of kids with them and then marry somebody else inevitably younger I'm just saying we're talking generalities in the world not pointing fingers at anybody but inevitably they'll marry somebody else who's younger so essentially they'll have they'll have the wife who Roar the kids and they'll have the trophy wife afterwards and lch doesn't wait he he does them both at the same time so he has his wife who has the kids who's that okay your J by the way realize why he's misogynist because his wives are only there for utility they're not they're not in Aero right that's the thing they're they're not a partner right it's not a sex there's again we talked about the romance before so if I asked you was that romantic well where did the non-romantic behavior begin it starts with lch lch is the one who divides his needs and let me get a wife for each one of my needs which means when we then find later on they took all kinds of women of course they need multiple wives they need all kinds of multiple needs and the women were essentially there to serve all kinds of needs but the thing there is also was a connotation of force and that's exactly what ianu were saying is that you kidnap and you take and you're stronger and the powerful men did whatever it is that they did and yeah if only if only powerful men were no longer doing these things which means that this this goes right back to lch as the one who's being blamed but I just want to think about lch and The Offspring for a moment we we had one who wants to live the life of he that is really interesting in terms of uh the the lessons and the messages that he has heard and he decides to live he's got another brother with a name which is Str strangely familiar and he be he decides to become our our musician so but when you see that he's the musician but L is also one who's dealing with poetry so therefore you realize that instead of writing anything which is romantic and so on he's writing about his misogyny and about his murder and so on and you know what again how hard is it that we want to work today but if I had to go find the antecedent to what takes place by the time of the flood I'm looking right here at l l is the which means why is there all this discussion and I I also I want to can be honest about something else there were two different approaches when it comes to there's one other person we didn't really get into and that that was Rashi tells you right away that who is see have to remember where where I left that uh I left that Rashi that [Music] is rashi's in Source number 21 at the very end right before 22 so see that's really what the ramban was going to tell us why do we need all this information is because that something good is going to come out of it which means just like I have the son of L who decides let me try to fix the world and become more more heav likee there's also a daughter who becomes someone who's very positive and she becomes the wife of Noah and that becomes the reason or the for all of this to be uh to be taught again if you look at source 21 in the beginning of the rash that he fixed and and took and he became cayen 2.0 if you're going to kill somebody don't do it in such a primitive way let let's make some weapons let let let let's do this in the right way which means if we're going to then find later on in the generation of the flood that there was murder which is taking place and that was part of the connotation we saw of one of the definitions was murder again that that we saw moving forward we understood that by the golden calf and then we understood that afterwards by the verse which the told us this connected destruction of the first temple and therefore we had the so that's going right over here also to this narrative the other thing is there are those who claim that this whole amama story is uh is a little different from the way that we uh just now told it um first I'll look at source 22 is Mida and I'm just going to jump towards the end of it over here and part of the thing which troubles some of the commentaries is hold it if You' had two wives for two different purposes how' the other one get pregnant well well excuse well I'm not going to explain how they got pregnant I know why you're laughing but just because just first of all birth control doesn't always work and just because you decide you're going to take a wife for that mean that doesn't mean that that's what she's going to agree with which means she still has her maternal instincts and she still wants to have a child and so on and so forth but um but if she is this beautiful woman chosen for her beauty we have every reason to believe that uh n as well would have been somebody who had some attractive jeer as well and and and by the way remember remember the power for men the see I would have translated they were hot but you would not have liked my translation so I I would have had to uh look for look look for some other translation um but look at the end of source 22 the end of the mid there so we'll go two lines to the bottom so that's what we saw what Rashi said where we got it from because she's such a nice woman no that's it she he was married to a different that she borrowed her brother's musical instruments and she would play the to and bring them all towards idolatry which means that it much more is talking about her seductive Behavior but in terms of idolatry if you um if you look around a little bit more you'll find that there are those who will then say even worse things about her is that she was a seductress generally even going so far as to say is that she caused angels to fall the whole concept of Fallen Angels the end of source [Music] 25 now this way that it turns it she was so hot I'm sorry that the Angels were chasing her and she ran away from them that's the way it goes in Source 25 in source 26 why she mentioned because the or theim even better theim the Fallen Angels fell because of so essentially you have over here ways of saying okay why is she there so again we're going to go back to our famous theory of conservation of characters and therefore if there is this positive woman here and so on so she becomes the wife of of Noah but by the way remember the connotation of that that means that Ken's Li Ken's line lives on in all of us right even though Noah comes from the other line if it's this she comes from K side that means that the children of Noah are children of both Cen and of shet so just just think a little bit about the implications of that on the other hand if sh Noah's wife is some other again if that's indeed is her name then this is seen as being again two ways some see her being really positive so I guess then you make her more like one of her brothers the other one says really negative there there are those also claim at the end I think of uh in Source 23 it talks about how she may have made some of those weapons together with her brother right Al that she was involved in the killing trade together with her brother which means again it sees this n as being negative I'm going to say maybe one maybe two more things to finish this up today one is this was the problem that some of the commentaries had why is there so much information here so one way to spin it is to say there's so much information because it's going to be part of our continuation and and then somebody even coming from the line of cenne can turn her out ofy positive and that we should understand because we saw an example of one of them who takes upon himself to live the life of he which itself is really interesting on the other hand we have this possibility that this is the continue of the cayen story which now perfects murder perfects all the negative traits and all the negative things which then metast excises in the hearts of men all come out of over of this story and that's really what it's telling us over here and then when by the time you get to that couple of verses prior to the flood when God is looking at the heart of man and how negative this has all become it all comes back to this story over here in terms of again all types of the corruption starting with the taking of the multiple wives and taking women and that was in the second place going over to this place of uh of of other types of corrupt corruption the idolatry you know what it really is it's it's the music and it's it is Hedonism and it comes from L as well because L is a he's a pleasure Seeker that's what he is L is a pleasure seeker and that's why he needs a woman just to satisfy he doesn't want a partner he needs a woman to satisfy all of his various needs and that's why that ends up later on by the flood as well which means the pleasure Seeker lch is what causes a hedonistic Society to emerge out that's what they see as being the uh the epitome of what life should be life and then we can look at TH those who are making weapons on the one hand now you can force your will and control others with your weapons and on the other hand those who are in the industry of making music so you can say hold it but the music is wonderful but the question is what the music is being used for and over here we find the the music is being the drums which were being pounded are being used for idolatry and not being used for any kind of service of God which means that it's not so difficult to tease out this section all the negative kind of behavior that we end up seeing as the beginning of the flood and as I said I want to say one last thing you know what I find really interesting the insistence when Noah gets on when his children get on it's Noah and his wife his children and their wives it's all the animals two by two God doesn't say l would have had to make a choice if he was allowed on the if he was allowed to get on Le come on but it's is and and that term is a term which is which is used even by The Animals if you look at source 31 again two by two come so I find that the two I know someone's going to tell me but later on there seven I know I know you don't to remind me I I got that far in my mikra this week I know but it's this emphasis over here and that's what I'm saying we we started with the flood we went back a couple verses beforehand and I said as I said from the beginning we asked we asked ourselves one question so where did all this come from so essentially we had a narrative which was a little bit more developed than other narratives so we decided there must be a purpose for that must be a reason for that so we started looking in that narrative and what do we find that narrative we find some very interesting Behavior we also try to explore how that interesting Behavior may have caused a Devolution and caused this corrosion of morality and caused the Society of people who were Pleasure Seekers and using force and using weapons and using all kinds of things to get their will because the most important thing is the powerful person because that's the only one who can really do this to fulfill their own particular needs and then when I frame it like that and I ask myself so where did all this come from the answer is by Le and his couple of wives and then I read the verse again God says no no no two by two two by two that that that's that's all that we're interested in right over here and any questions you're going to ask me and say but he me none of that interests me because I hear God's words very loud and very clear it's about creating society which is a just Society following the word of God not abusing others not taking advantage go going back to our Yi even taking a grape without paying for it no a just Society it only can work that way otherwise Society itself will become completely corrupt