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17th of Tamuz - When Things Begin to Shift | Rabbi Yossi Goldin | June 23 2026
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First of all, today's shear uh or our
shear in general is sponsored by Hedi
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Lipchitz family for your sponsorship. Um
and as always um we we dav in that our
learning today should be a rafua or
should first of all should be a
protection for all of our kayim, all of
our soldiers, especially those um
protecting our borders and beyond. Um
and it should be autured.
excuse me u and all those who have been
affected by this war and should give
guidance to our leaders and to all the
world leaders to make the right
decisions.
Okay. So what I wanted to do today as we
always mention our class on the the
number one goal is to is to not just
help us in our in general but also as we
approach certain times of the year to be
able to help enhance
um to enhance the meaning of those times
of the year through by going through
some of the that we say. Um this coming
Thursday is shivasamuz
and what I wanted to do today was to
begin by going through one of the pim
that we say in the onasamuz and through
that to to talk a little talk a little
bit about this specifically the
significance of shivas tamuz I feel like
this fasting the shivasamuz often gets a
bit of a a raw deal um because it's the
beginning of the three weeks and much
focus is often on the end of the three
weeks because the beginning we do lessen
some things that we do but the real
intense time comes up with the nine
days, the week of tishaba a um much of
tishaba is is often talked about.
Shivasamuz is the beginning of that time
period often doesn't necessarily have as
much uh that is discussed. So I wanted
to talk about the significance of
Shivasamuz and as I said we'll start
through the prism of the put um as as
many of us are familiar on on on in
general on public fast days we add
uh we add special PUM and special that
we say uh in order to make sure that the
fast day is not just a day where we
simply don't eat but it becomes a day
where we have self-reflection and and
think about the significance of the day
and how we can improve ourselves. um in
in light of the day and often as we've
got as we've discussed before can it
includes special that are said every
every that are that are connect that
connect all days of and then each of
these days has special pim special poems
special eleies special um po you know
essays that are meant to that that talk
about the sign significance of the day
and and are meant to elicit a certain
emotion and a mindset as we as we spend
the day of Shivasamuz
uh hopefully in in in self-reflection.
So if I brought you here in source
number one the main pot the main essay
the main poem elegy of the of the day
we'll read through it I brought for you
in English and in Hebrew and and I
highlighted in bold the the parts that I
think are are are really the most the
most significant because what what this
put does is it talks about how we are in
a state of sadness due to five events
that happened on Shivasamuz that are
highlighted in this in this p we'll read
through it together um just to kind of
again get into understanding.
We're in source number one.
We have approached you. We have come to
you the creator of spirits
because of all of our sins. Um our our
size have become heavy. We've become
sad.
There were many many degrees that were
decrees that were decreed and many uh
cries that have that have that have
multiplied or that have that have
increased. Why?
The first tragedy that happened on the
17th of Thomas was that was that
according to our tradition and we'll see
the garra explains this how it gets to
this but the se according to our
tradition according to the garra the
17th of Thomas was the day that that
Moshe broke the continues the
now again this is important remember
we're going to be saying this on on
Thursday so this is a great way for us
to prepare so that when we say these we
don't just say them but hopefully we
actually understand what we're
We we were exiled from the mikdash.
Our judgment was sealed
and our light became darkened
because on the 17th of the Torah was
burnt. We're going to see soon. This is
based on the Mishna init that says that
epistemus who's one of the one of the
generals according to our tradition
burned the Torah on
continues the paragraph three
line three
our enemies destroyed the destroyed the
temple
and the the divine presence left from
the corner of the
and we were given over in front of our
enemies to be consumed, to be destroyed.
The third thing that happened on the
17th of Tamuz was that during the during
the time of Minashe, the wicked king,
he took a he took a uh an idol and put
it inside the inside the actual kesh or
inside the actual kesh inside the beta
mikdash itself. He put this idol there.
That is the third tragedy that happened
on Shivas
continues this zun.
Excuse me. Uh they scattered us from
city to city
and many people young and old were
totally destroyed.
Our city was destroyed and and and and
the fire consumed it
because on the 17th of
the city was what is breached, right?
They broke through they broke through
the walls. At least we know for sure
that Babylonians broke through the walls
on the first bet. Well, we'll see
whether whe which one happened on the
17th of whether the first bet or the
second beta mikdash. But we definitely
know for sure the seven that the second
betash the Romans broke through the
walls on the 17th of Tamuz. The next one
which is again the fifth is going to
list the fifth of the tragedies.
uh the the the uh the the our enemy, the
destroyer totally destroyed our beta
mikdash
and a bracelet and armband were taken
from the bride and gloom
because we angered you. We were we were
given over to be destroyed
because on the 17th of what else
happened? What was the fifth tragedy?
the Kurban Tamid which had been brought
every single day for years on end. That
was the Qurban that was brought twice a
day. The Kban that's why it's called the
Kurban Tamid because it was brought
every single day. It stopped being
brought during the time of the second
the second by the Romans and that was
again another that was the fifth tragedy
of what happened on the on the 17th of
Thomas. Okay. Now we're not going to go
Yes.
>> Sorry. What is the name?
>> It's a symbol it's a it's a symbol of of
joy. It just refers to to different ways
they used to adorn themselves. Uh the
>> this is just symbolic.
>> Yes. It's it's it's a it's a sign of of
happiness and of celebration. That's
what it means. Yes. Because they used to
adorn themselves. The katan used to
adorn themselves as they were
approaching the I mean now the kala does
as well. Although now the minag is for
take off all her all her jewelry. But
that that's a different mhag. That's
something else. But the but the the idea
of approaching the wedding day adorning
yourself in in be with beautiful
garments or beautiful or beautiful
jewelry that was that's the symbolism of
of happiness and of approaching
happiness. Okay. Now now the truth is we
could go through the rest of this p and
I encourage you to do so. Um, but for
time sake I want us to to to kind of get
to some of the some of the meat of of
what happened on on the 17th of Tamuz.
But what we see beautifully is how the
author of this p is weaving in the
reasons of the 17th of of the tragedy of
of the fast of the 17th of Tamuz
together with uh almost like lamenting
lamenting our situation weaving in a
fact events that happened together with
cries of despair and cries of sadness.
both talking about what happened also by
the way talking about our own sins. It's
it's it's it's a combination of
attributing or discussing the tragedies
of what happened together with our
taking responsibility for our own
actions. And that's really what what a
fast day is meant to be. A fast day is a
day where we mourn or lament the things
that have happened while also using it
as a day to think about our own actions
and ways that we can and we can we can
improve. And that's what we're going to
be hopefully talking about about today.
Okay. But what what what this period
highlighted for us before I get to some
questions is that there were five main
tragedies that happened on the 17th of
Thomas. And again, we're not going to
see the rest of it right now, but the
the by the way you should know the end
of the of the P. That's the one thing I
will do is you look at the end of the p
and this is where it's actually very
nice. The end of the p ends with for
some for actually for of hope. If you
look at the bolden part in the last
three lines, he says,
"We're dvening that that even though
we're mourning what happened, we're ding
to Hashem that he should turn these days
to days of of happiness." And he says it
again.
And then the last one
Yeshua, they should be days of salvation
and days of of comfort. So this p is
both talking about the tragedy and
lamenting and taking responsibility
while also domining eventually for the
future. That is very much capturing our
own our own mindset of the day which is
one of reflection tragedy taking
responsibility and accountability while
also hoping deep in our minds and in our
hearts for things for things to change
while recognizing that that's also very
much upon us. But if you look at source
number two, this is the source. Source
number two is the init which is the
source for that we know for the fact
that we know that the five things
happened on this day the 17th of
there were five things that happened on
the 17th of the
and five tragedies that happened on
we're not going to discuss today we're
going to focus on
the first one was the were broken And
we're going to see soon the Gomorra does
a calculation how they know that it
actually happened on the 17th of Tamos
that during the second mikdash as we
said um stopped being brought by the
Romans stopped us from bringing even
mdash was still around they stopped us
from being able to bring the kurban.
Third,
the city was breached. They were able to
break through the the the walls of
Jerusalem
apostatra apostamus who was a Roman
general. It's unclear exactly which year
this occurred, but this is the tradition
that that the Roman general aostamus
burned the Torah on this day. And the
fifth is something that happened much
earlier
that Minasha the evil king Minasha
during the during inim
he put a an actual pessel an actual idol
inside inside the garra in in on source
number three tries to discuss where
where we knew this where what what's the
source for each of each of these five
things happening on on on shasabus
how do we know so ask the garra in
source number three nishtabuha
How do we know about how do we know that
that the were were were broken
specifically on the 17th of Thomas
based on the following
Israel on the 6th of the we're given
right has happened now this is actually
a we're going to see soon it's either
there's a mus in the garra whether matan
tora happened on the sixth of or the
seventh of now we celebrated on the
sixth of but it's a mlo focus between
the Tanakama and and Rebiosi. So it says
so according to the Tanakama the Torah
was given on the sixth and and according
to Rabio Reio
and according to was given on the
seventh but either way we're going to
see it doesn't make a difference for our
calculation why says the Garra
excuse me
according to the opinion that says that
the Torah was given on the sixth. So the
Torah was given on the sixth and the
next day on the seventh Moshe went back
up to Hari or Mosh sorry Mosha went up
to Hari to receive theot
according to Rabio that the Torah was
given on the seventh.
So the Torah was given on the seventh
and on that same day Moshe went up to
receive the luot. So according to both
opinions whether you say the Torah was
given on the sixth or the Torah was
given on the seventh according to says
the Gmorrah it's clear that Moshe went
up hari in order to receive the on the
seventh of then continues the gra
oh and it brings because the says
he called to Moshe on the seventh day
and then it says
and Moshe went up up the mountain.
As we know, Moshe was up for 40 days and
40 nights. Continues the Garra. We have
a little bit of math here. Okay, it's
good to get our brains working a little
bit.
Okay, so if he went up on the seventh,
then you have 24 days within the month
of that he was up there.
And then you have another 16 days that
he was during the month of Tamos that he
was up there. which means
40 days after he went up comes out to be
the 17th of Tamos. And as we know that
is the day that he broke the and
therefore
he comes down. He breaks the as the says
he comes down the mountain. He sees
what's going on. He throws down the luot
and he breaks the luot. Okay. So the
gumar has a clear calculation that this
is when this is when uh the breaking of
the luot happened. What about the other
four other tragedies? So the gumar says
when it comes to bel
when it how do we know that the tam
theat stopped? It was it's a tradition.
Gar in this case means this was a
tradition that was passed down. We don't
have an actual calculation written out
somewhere. We have tradition that this
is when this this was the day that it
stopped.
Now the garam asks what about the
breaching of the walls because as we're
about to see there seems to be a
contradiction there seems to be a
difference uh in between perhaps the
first and second beta mikdash you're
telling me that the walls were breached
on the seventh
but the puk tells me
if we skip now for one second just to
see excuse me let me find the exact make
sure I have it right if you look to to
source number six for one minute. Source
number six describes
the in in in in describes the actual
breaching of the walls and the Torah and
the and the and the says
the fourth month. The fourth month is
right.
Okay, if we start from from Nissan,
the fast got really red. There was no
bread
and the wall was breached. So wait a
second. According to theseim when was
the wall breached what day of Thomas?
The ninth. The 9th. The fourth month.
The 9th of the month. So why is the gar
why why did the Mishna tell me that it
happened on the 17th of the month?
That's the question going back to our
gamarra. Now going back to our gamarra
the second paragraph and source number
three. The garra says the says
It tells me that it happened on the 9th.
So why are you telling me that it
happened on the 17th?
Responds.
There's no question.
The pukim here we're referring to the
first betam mikdash. And when we say
that the walls were breached, that's
referring to the second betmikdash. So
the breaching of both walls occurred in
the month of Tamuz. The first beta
mikdash would happen on the 9th of Tamuz
and the second beta mikdash it happened
on the 17th of tamuz. Now I'm going to
just just for parenthesis I don't want
to get get a little bit confusing but it
is important to know that this seems to
be a makus between the garb and the
yushi. The yushali
claims and I I I have it here but I want
to see it inside but it's for those who
would like to take a look at source
number um source is it source number
seven? Yeah. So source number seven the
garra asked the same question. You told
me that it happened on the 17th, but the
puss says it happened on the on the 9th.
And the Yashami's response is
the Nvi made a mistake. They messed up.
They messed up the accounting that
really it all happened on the 17th.
Okay, interesting. Makoquez, for our
purposes, we'll go with the Bavi for
now. The Bavi's accounting is that the
first betam mikdash it happened, the
breaching of the walls happened on the
9th. The second betdash, the breaching
of the walls happened on the 17th. Let's
keep going now continuing in source
number three. In the second paragraph,
what about the other two things that
happened on the 17th of Tamuz aimus? How
do we know that aimus burnt the Torah on
the 17th? Again, the gimra says it's a
tradition. Some of them we some things
we have a pusk for and some things are
just a tradition that we have.
How do we know that he that this is also
when put the the the idol in the in the
P says at
Shakutam and the Garra brings again we
don't get into all of the details right
now but the the GRA quotes a puk that
connects put the putting of the of the
pessel of the idol and connects it to
when the tamid stopped meaning or it's
it's and therefore because we know that
the tid stopped on on the 17th of Thomas
from a from a we also then know that the
placing of the peso the placing of the
idol also happened on the 17th. Okay. So
this is just to give us a little bit a
little bit of background. Now what I'd
like to spend a little bit more Yes.
Yes. Sorry. So a couple of questions
please. Yes.
So it's a it's it's it's it's a it's a
it's a great question in terms of she's
asking why exactly the tamid the tamid
stopped. There's different there's
different
it's it's unclear 100% why the tamid
stopped but I think the simple
understanding was that there was
opposition well there was a rav as well
there so they didn't they didn't they
didn't they didn't have anything but I
think there was I think there was I
think there was also opposition I think
there were still they were still getting
animals but I think there was still
opposition from the Romans at that point
and they and that was what pushed it at
least according to at least according to
some traditions that that's why it
stopped yes
>> about
at night
but the night
and
the permission for the wedding because
it starts
and we don't
feel
>> ah oh you're talking about observing
okay so I don't I I don't I don't
specific cases I don't want to I don't
want to get into I'm happy to discuss it
with you specifically the u but you are
correct that generally that generally
the three weeks start start and and And
and I do believe that our that that our
general observance even though the fast
doesn't start the night of Shivas I do
believe that our general observance of
the customs starts the night of
Shivasamuz. So I'm not sure. I don't
want to say you can go you can't go. We
can discuss that separately. Uh but you
are correct that the even though the
fast of Shivas doesn't start until the
next day our observance of the three
weeks does generally start that night.
So it's a good it's a good it's a good
question.
>> Don't start that have weddings between
the 17th and
>> ah that's another point. Yes. which is
which is that which that that could be
another piece of it which is that the
spar have different observances in terms
of what they're makmir on um during the
three weeks during during during the
three some are only mockmir starting the
nine days as opposed to the three weeks
so it could also be that it depends
depends on on the wedding itself okay um
so what I'd like what I'd like us to
focus on and because I think it's the
most important and I think very often
it's the one that we can relate to the
most which is the the breaching of the
walls of yushim okay the breaching of
the walls of yushim according to our
tradition happened on the shivasamuz and
it's important to know we've mentioned
this before that when we talk about the
public fast days that we observe
generally aside from tanester which is a
unique fast day when we talk about the
the fast days that are the the the
rabbitic fast days there are four of
them and the four of them are really
meant to be on a continuum okay people
don't realize this because we observe
them separately and they happen people
know that there's a connection between
and and because they're the bookends to
the three weeks what people don't
realize often is that and Gdalya are
also part of the same continuum. There
are four rabbitic fast days that are all
part of the same continuum of events
that happened leading up and after the
destruction of the beta mikdash. And
I'll explain what I mean.
>> of the first beta mikdash. Correct.
Correct.
>> Is there any evidence that the Jews
there fought against the Romans?
>> Is there evidence that the Jews fought
against the Romans?
>> Is there mention of an army or any any
activity just having a wall that is
breached and that's it.
>> Oh, you're talking you're talking about
you're talking about at on the 17th
itself. There is no evidence that there
was meaning meaning there is evidence
that there was that there was
conversations about fighting or not
fighting and there were disagreements
amongst the Jews whether or not to fight
or not to fight. Um there is there is
evidence that there was a fight there
was some kind of fight whether it was an
organized battle in the way that we
envision it is is a very good question.
You have to also remember we're talking
about a breach that happened after after
three years of a siege and and that very
much weakened the Jews. But there was a
but there was a lot of conversation in
the Gumrah about the the the a big
debate regarding what
>> not in Tanakh not in Tanak but in the
Gumar it does it it does mention it.
Yes. Yes. Okay. So so it these four fast
days are actually meant to be a
continuum. You have
aarabet is is is a fast that
commemorates the beginning of the siege
around Jerusaleim. Then the next one is
which commemorates the breaking
breaching of the walls. You have tisha
which commemorates the destruction of
the beta mikdash. And then the last one
on this continuum is to gadalia. We
don't always realize this because we
often think of tomgalia as the beginning
of like the new school year. It's like
it's no gdalia is a fast day that where
we're commemorating the killing of
Gdalia which eventually led to the
leaving of of of all Jews from meaning
even after the second B even even after
the betas was destroyed first beta thank
you meaning even after the betam mikdash
was destroyed there still remained a
group of Jews but there was a
disagreement between those Jews as to
how to relate right now to the
Babylonian kingdom that had taken over
and as a result of that disagreement
ment Gdalia who was the de facto leader
of that community was killed was
assassinated and it is that
assassination that led to the eventual
basically total destruction isn't the
right word but total basically leaving
of all of the Jews from Jerusalem and so
you have four fast days that are really
all on one continuum and then you also
have the fast days of of you have you
have yum kiper which is a which is a
which is a which is a which is a
biblical fast day and tan esester which
is in its own world because it's really
more connected to purim but it's
important to know that these These four
fast days are all connected. And not
only are they connected, but if you look
here in in Zakaria in source number
four, the Tanakh connects them and puts
them all as fast days that are all
interconnected.
The fast day of the fourth month. What's
the fast day of the fourth month?
>> Excellent.
What's
excellent to what's
and the fast day of
all four of these says
shalom says these days will turn into
days of happiness days of and so he
calls them days
And then he calls them days of asks the
Gar in source number five. Let me just
find it. Sorry. Ask the Gar in source
number five.
Why is it that you're calling them both
days of and days of
you're calling them a fast day?
And you're calling them days of
happiness.
Shalom.
So the Gmorrah answers, "If there are
days of peace, when there are days of
peace, then they will become days of
shalom. But if there is no peace, then
they become days of they become they
become fast days. Papa says it even more
than that.
I'll say it even differently.
Shalom. If they're days of peace,
then there will be days of happiness.
But if we're being persecuted
then there days of fast
shalom. What if there's no persecution
but there's also no peace?
If you want to, you'll fast. People who
want to will fast or if the community
wants to, they'll fast. If the community
doesn't want to, they won't fast. Okay?
So, we see here that these days are days
that on the one hand are fast days, were
initiated as fast days, but at some
point either they were or they're meant
to be days that are turned into days of
Yes.
>> Has there ever been a time in our
history when
Excellent. So the question he's asking
is, has there ever been a time or a
better way of saying it, has there ever
been a day of peace in our in our
history? So excellent, excellent
question. So the truth is is the answer
is yes. Even though as crazy as that
sounds right now historically, there was
a time. When was that time? When was the
time when these were days? No, slow-mo.
No, because because Schlommo was before
these fast days were instituted. Was
there a time when these fast days were
actually observed as and the answer is
yes. When during the 70 years of the
second beta mikdash
because it was these four fast days were
observed during the first galut.
Then we had the second beta mikdash
during those years of the second beta
mikdash. They were then observed as days
of sassima.
Once the second bet mikdash was
destroyed, then they they reverted back
to being days of I just want to see this
inside for one second. Just see if you
look in source number eight in source
number
in his he explains this very
beautifully.
mdash after the destruction of the first
beta mikdash.
Then they established four fast days in
order to in order to correspond to these
moments of of destruction
in order to cause the nation to be upset
and to be sad for the destruction
because we were in moments of galut.
That was when we started that. Then we
had these days to commemorate the galut
in order to help us and encourage us to
fix our our actions. But however, there
was one thing that was important. The
the fast days that we discussed were all
observed, but there was one fast day
that at that point was was observed
differently than ours, and that was the
fast day of Tamuz. Because the fast day
of Tamuz during the second bet during
during this galut was observed on the
9th of Tamuz not on the 17th of Tamos.
Why was it observed on the 9th of Tamuz?
Because as we saw in the gar that was
when the breach of the first betam
mikdash actually occurred and therefore
it all happened on and therefore we had
you had four fasts
tetamus
tab and gdala those all four were
observed continues of if you look at
source number second paragraph source
number
You have
because that was when the the wall the
siege began
during the of
that was when the the walls were
breached.
And then on the nth of they established
a fast.
And and then we have on the in the month
in the month of
you have the you have on the third of
tish you have gala because of the
because of the the death of Gdalia.
Once he died, any small rem remnants of
Jewish sovereignty in Jerusalem was
totally was totally destroyed.
And that was for 70 years. For the 70
years between the first bet and the
second bet, they absorbed they observed
these four fast days. Okay. However,
all of a sudden they built the second
mikdash.
The question became
now do they have to continue to fast
these days and then comes so and they
went to the zakaria
and zakaria came and explained that once
these are now days of shalom i.e E once
the second bet mikdash was was built
they are now days of peace and therefore
we no longer needed to observe these
fast days. Third paragraph
once the second mikdash was eventually
destroyed
then the Jewish people went back to
observing these four fast days because
we were no longer during times of peace.
We were now in times of of destruction
or at least during times of um of where
there was no bet not not times of peace.
But one date changed.
One date which which date changed Tamuz.
Shivasamuz because since now the most
recent Bamikdash the breach happened on
the 17th of Tamuz. That is when we now
observe.
Sorry.
And that is where we have what we have
today. We have the four fast days.
Tamuz a and we have Tom Gadalia all on a
continuum all meant to correspond to the
destruction really of the second beta
mikdash the first and second beta
mikdash but more specifically the second
beta mikdash which is why we fast on the
17th of tamos and not on the ninth and
not on the nth of tamos. So that's just
to give a full a clearer background. I
hope hope it hope it clarifies things
and didn't confuse things to help us
understand what we're talking about to
help us understand the p that we're
going to say on but I'd like to to to
kind of
try to understand two questions.
Question number one is is there any
connection between all five of these
events? Okay, we've discussed five
events that happened on the 17th of
Thomas. You can't hear. Okay. Is there
is there a connection between these five
events? Is there any kind or does it
just happen to be that these five things
happened on the 17th of Thomas or might
there be a connection? And in order to
answer that question, I think we have to
ask a more fundamental question which is
why do we even commemorate the breaching
of the walls?
In the end of the day, when did the
destruction happen? Tishab and we have a
very very sad day, right? We're about to
enter we're about to enter a a period of
three weeks that that is always hard
because it's during the summer months.
Uh and and and and they're challenging
days. So as it is we're going to have a
per period of intense morning on tishab
the nine days shabbo even the day after
tishab why do we also need to
commemorate the 17th of tamos if
everything really changed on on tishab
what is it about the breaching of the
walls that is so important that it
deserves its own day of mourning and its
own day of of of contemplation
>> the beginning of
>> it's the beginning of the destruction
>> why is it the beginning of the
destruction
Okay. So good. So what you're what
you're what what you're suggesting is
and I think that this is the key point
which is that the breaching of the walls
wasn't just a step in the process. It
wasn't just like okay one more step
closer to the destruction. It was a key
shift
in
everything in terms of the way that ami
Israel certainly the first betamed and I
would argue even the second betash
looked at their own safety and reality.
We have to remember that specifically
when we're talking about the first betam
mikdash how this was viewed for 410
years
felt invincible. They felt like they
were the top of the world and even
though they were sinning and even though
people were doing things that they
shouldn't have done and we know
throughout all of Nvy we see that there
were wicked kings and then there were
better kings and then there were even
more wicked kings and we were doing a
lot of good things. We were doing a lot
of bad things. Yet throughout it all one
thing was clear to us and that was we'll
be fine. We'll be fine. We we'll be okay
>> until something shifted or something.
Yes.
was still there. They broke the wall.
>> Good. We'll get to that. We'll get to
that. Yeah. Meaning what what what
happened on Shivasamuz
or the 10th ninth of Tambos in the first
bet was that some kind of sign was given
to Ammy Israel that something had
something had changed. Until this point,
we felt invincible. We felt like was
going to be there. Okay, he keeps saying
all the are saying that he's going to
destroy something. Hashem keeps saying
it's going to happen, but you know what?
he'll never really do it. Right? It's
like that kid who like his parents keep
saying if you do that I'm going to, you
know, punish you with this and if you
keep to it. And the kid's like, yeah,
okay, sure. Right? And the kid always
knows, nah, the dad, the parent won't
really do that to me. And then at some
point, something shifts. The walls are
broken through. All of a sudden, they
look at each other like, wait a second,
something dramatic has shifted in the
relationship between AmI and Baraku that
is reflected by the breaking of the
walls. Now what you're pointing out
which is important which is basically
saying it's shifted but it's not over
yet there still is time you still have
time but the if and if you don't do
anything then it will lead to
destruction the best mushall that I can
think of with this and again it's laav
deal certainly you'll understand that
why I'm saying that but lahav deal you
think about a relationship two between
two people that often that breaks down
whether it's between a husband and wife
or maybe between two siblings or between
two very close friends. There's the
moment when when when the break occurs,
but then there's the moment much earlier
or sometime earlier when the break
really occurs, but no one did anything
about it. Something happened a few
months before, a week before, two weeks
before when the shift really very it's
very rare that the actual point of break
is when every is when is when the
tragedy really occurred. The tragedy
occurred a month before, but only if you
pay attention to it and do something
about it is it is it is it going to stop
it from spiraling into the ultimate
break. And I would say the same thing is
happening here between our relationship
with the
until that point we felt like okay we'll
do something wrong and then we'll do
chuva again we'll do this we'll do that
everything will be fine all of a sudden
the walls break that one protection that
inv that sense of invincibility was
totally broken
and then we realize oh my gosh
something's shifting now we have a
choice we can learn a lesson from that
or we could do something about it and we
can make sure and try to improve it or
we could not which is what happened and
eventually it leads to the ultimate
destruction. Now what's THE REAL
TRAGEDY? THE ultimate destruction is the
real tragedy meaning what what is the
day that is the most intense? What is
the day that we actually spend our time
mourning intensely? Tishab because
that's the day when the beta mikdash was
destroyed. That's the day when the real
break occurs. That's the day when you
know again usually going back to our
mushel when the two people decide you
know the two friends decide never to
talk to each other again whatever they
have like an explosion an explosive
argument that leads to them never
talking again.
But when did that when did that real
shift in the relationship it happened
two weeks earlier when one did something
to the other or something happened and
no one said anything to each other and
they just ignored it and they chose to
ignore the devolvering relationship as
opposed to doing something about it. And
I think that's what's happening here
with Shivas Tamuz is Amish was faced
with a reality that had shifted. The
shifting was all of a sudden the beta
mikdash is destroyed. You're now much
less invincible than you could have
been. And Amish were faced with a
decision. They could have done something
about it and they didn't
and then the destruction really
happened. And so Shivasamus is one of
those days where we try and again the
way the way that I look at it and just
to for ourselves to bring it to to make
it you know more meaningful for us. What
should we be thinking about in
Shivasamus? I think one of the things we
can be thinking about is when it comes
to our relationships with each other,
with our loved ones, with our
relationship with not the moments when
things totally get to off the rails, but
trying to pay attention to those earlier
moments, trying to pay attention to the
moments when
I'm faced with I'm I'm I'm at a fork in
the road. I could either ignore what's
happening and I could just kind of go on
my life and pretend like everything's
going to be okay even though I know it's
not or I could do something about it
until it and make sure it doesn't come
to that ultimate whatever break that
that that that could occur in all of our
relationships whether it's a spiritual
relationship with whether it's an
interpersonal relationship whatever it's
going to be that's what Shivasamuz is
about it's about being able to recognize
to see ahead and to pay attention to
those signs the destruction the
breaching of the wall was a sign I could
was telling Amy Israel a relationship
has now shifted something has changed
and if you don't do something about it
it's going to eventually break and
that's what happened on Shivasamus
says Mhammed in source number nine the
final source here under source sheet
that is what connects all five events
that happened on Shivasamus
if we pay attention if we think about
There is a something very a hidden
connection
between the five things that happened on
the 17th
With each of these five things, there's
an expression of a crisis. there is some
kind of crack that is widening that has
been that is that is show being shown in
the relationship that if you don't do
something about it it's going to lead to
eventual destruction. But he says here
it breaks it causes a crack in the wall
of faith that we had in our relationship
with and causes a
causes a problem that if you don't fix
it it's going to eventually lead to he
says the same thing happened with
when it comes to there's different
opinions exactly what was the sin of but
says of what happened wasn't that they
totally denied
it wasn't they denied the existence of
God but they just thought that theel
also had a certain power
but once they started down that path
there wasn't a break they hadn't denied
their relation with. They still wanted
to have a relationship with Hashem, but
there was already a crack in their
relationship with
they no longer once that crack happened.
If they didn't do something about it,
which they didn't, it led eventually to
it led to all the other rebellions that
happened in the desert. It it c it
caused a shift in the relationship that
was represented by the breaking of the
luot. The breaking of the luot
represented a dramatic shift in the
relationship between God and am Israel
which if it wasn't going to be fixed was
going to lead to eventually this this
this um generation not entering Israel
and therefore the breaking of the also
represented this shift and then he says
we're in the sec well three lines from
the bottom towards the end of the third
line
the same thing when it comes to the end
of the tamides
or putting the the the the pesl
in the fat tora or the burning of the
Torah. Each in their own way, he doesn't
specify it here, but each in their own
way. The fact that those were able to
happen represented a shift and a change.
And God was saying something to each of
in each of those cases, saying, "Do
something. Something's happening here.
There's a reason why you can't bring
Corbon anymore. Corban mean not not
happening anymore is is symbolic of
something. The burning of the Torah is
symbolic of something. How could
to burn the Torah? He was he was giving
us a signal.
There is some kind
sorry there is an actual destruction
happening. It's not the
but there is some sign of some kind of
break in spiritually
some kind of break that if you don't fix
it
then that crack is going to continue to
widen until total destruction and so
that says that that's what that's what I
would suggest as well and share with you
as well that is what I think our job is
on on Shivasamuz shivasamuz is a day
when we should be thinking about not
just the ultimate destruction because
That's what we're focusing on on onish
aba. But rather taking time to think
about those moments that often occur
before the destruction in all of our
relationships. Those moments where
sometimes we choose to ignore them or we
choose not to say anything or we choose
to kind of, you know, passive
aggressively just forget about them. But
we know deep down that they're going to
lead to a bigger schism between us and
our loved ones, between us and God. And
to pay attention to those moments either
personally and nationally. And hopefully
if we do that then we'll be able to fix
them before before fix ourselves and fix
well our relationships before they get
get even worse. Um and hopefully we
should have a meaningful and an easy uh
and an easy fast. Wishing everybody a
wonderful wonderful day.
>> Thank you.