Ordinary People Extraordinary Missions Hatzolah Air's Eli Rowe

I'm sitting in Brooklyn. I'm sitting at a board meeting. And I said, "Listen, I'd like to open up a new Hatzolah organization." So, they're like, "Where?" And I put on my PowerPoint and I show them. And I said, "I'll get to it in a minute." They go, "But where?" Everywhere that there are Jews, there's Hatzolah. So, I said, "In the sky." And they were so I'm going to use the word stunned at my idea that they just said, "Sure, go for it." None of your business, Oshi. None of your business, Michael. It's the None of Your Business Podcast hosted by Michael and Oshi. See, like right there, you hear that in the background? That's it, baby. Right. I wish I could I wish I could introduce us, but we have a fighter jet behind us. Wow. Wow. Sounds like Mach 1. Jeez. But, um Oshi, we are at a hangar, Michael. Planes are landing. The day after this boy was found sleeping under a tree lost from his parents for overnight for 12 hours, we are sitting here at the helm at the base of the location that took that challenge under their belt and immediately deployed. And it's unbelievable to be here in that aura, in that atmosphere, and just to feel the energy of all the all the you First of all, I feel that there's a lot of experience going on here. If you look around, you have the maintenance of the supply products, you have helicopters halfway taken down, the van, the secret bus that we're not allowed to even see because it hasn't been deployed yet, the planes behind us. Just like I'm overwhelmed with gratitude and thank you, Hashem, for giving us the opportunity to be here at Hatzolah Air. This is a unbelievable moment for me. It's surreal. It really is, especially right after this whole uh really traumatic event that took place. And we now get to actually experience like what type of work they do. And what kind of missions they go on. And they do it for people that don't they don't know them whatsoever other than the fact that they're a fellow Jew. And as soon as they hear their help is needed, they immediately get the cavalry going. And they're out. No matter what they're doing, they drop it all. And then they go out there, but it's not just anybody that's coming. It's like you said, people that are trained, people that are their whole lives they're spending time every single day just focused on, "How could we get better at our craft?" So, we can help more people in times of need. I'm going to share a story, by the way, when we start the podcast of a very embarrassing incident that happened to me relative to Hatzolah when I first learned about Hatzolah, and I'm excited to share it. You know, like we talk about being vulnerable and growing from uh Yeah, I think everybody has one embarrassing story with Hatzolah. When they unnecessarily called Hatzolah just because they were being extra cautious. I have a rash on my arm. Exactly. Yeah. Oshi, um how many times in your life have you called Hatzolah? Probably around five times, I think. Yeah. Do you remember the time that was the most important for you? I remember the most the last time I called Hatzolah. Yeah, what was it? I was uh just had a baby, my eldest. It's like 7 years ago. He's 7 years old. And my wife and I brought him home from the hospital. It was a Thursday. And we had our first Shabbos together. And we were there just the two of us with our little bundle of joy sitting next to us. And we had to give him Tylenol. So, we had a syringe. You know, we're very careful. We put it Sure. And at one point, he started like gagging. He started choking. And we freaked out. We panicked. We panicked. I was like, "What do I do? What do I do?" I I immediately ran to the bedroom. I grabbed my phone and I called Hatzolah. I called Hatzolah. Here's the Here's the crazy part. In about 2 minutes, literally 2 minutes. I'm not underselling this. In 2 minutes, there was two or three cars. People came running. A couple of the people I knew, they were from my neighborhood. I guess that's how they got there so quickly. And they came in the house and they took the baby from me and like they started patting him on the back and like, "It's It's fine. Everything is good." And I felt like like I felt bad. Like, did I, you know, overreact? Did I call them for no reason? And they were so nice. You know what they told me? They said, "Look, you're a first-time parent. This is very normal. We get this all the time. And we want to encourage you that anytime you feel even questionable whether you should call or you shouldn't call, call. Call. Call. Don't feel bad. This is what we do. We're just as happy to come out for a call like this than whether it's a serious call and we were truly needed. This is like the type of people that work at Hatzolah. These are the type of people that volunteer. Don't work. Volunteer at Hatzolah. I want you to know, growing up in Brooklyn, Sure, more planes. Come on. Craig. I was flying out? Oshi, in Brooklyn, by the way, they wouldn't encourage you to call because growing up near uh Sheepshead Bay, where people would call just to have like a taxi to go to the hospital for a hospital visit. It's a very well-known challenge they have in the five boroughs. Okay, but that's not right. See, that's No, it's not. Yeah, that's people taking advantage. That's That's There's always those issues. There's always those issues of people taking advantage of good things. Where did you fly from? What was the uh We flew from New York to pick up a crew in Florida. We flew from Florida to Houston to pick up the patient, and we flew from Houston to the name of this town. Have you ever heard of Guayaquil No. in Ecuador? Anyway, so we flew with two doctors on board to Guayaquil in Ecuador. And um and he was quite quite quite critical. He was uh He was in bad shape. So, I just remember we had to do some what's called duty rest cuz the way it works is in a 14-hour pilot day, you have a maximum of 10 hours of flying that you can do. So, it's typically it's a half an hour we call duty on. I'm sorry, an hour duty on, a half an hour duty off. So, now your day is 12 and 1/2 hours. Of that, you can actually do flying time log flying time a maximum of 10 hours. So, we the crew flew from New York to Fort Lauderdale to pick up the medical crew. That was about 2 and 1/2 hours. From Fort Lauderdale to Houston to pick up the patient. That was about 2 hours. We're now at 4 and 1/2 hours. And it was about 4 hours and 45 minutes to go from Houston MD Anderson, this famous center for people with never really horrific illnesses. And um and we flew him to Ecuador, south of the equator. Now, it was Erev Tisha B'Av, meaning the day before Tisha B'Av that this happened. I was there. Not one of the pilots, one of the medical crew, together with Dr. Grushko, who is the chief of cardiology and electrophysiology at I think Einstein and Jacobi, two fabulous centers. You got this guy who could be billing himself out of thousands of dollars an hour. And look what he's doing. He's flying from New York to Florida to Houston to Ecuador Wow. on a Sunday instead of being with his family, right? What day was Was Tisha B'Av Monday night? Yes, it Yes, it was Monday night. So, this was a whole Sunday he gives up. Okay? Now, we get to Ecuador. We arrived at 3:00 in the morning. We're out of time. So, we go to sleep in a local Hilton in Ecuador. And I have to worry about my crew, right? They're telling us, "Don't leave the plane without security and don't be driving around local town." So, the son of the patient arranges us armed guards with a motorcycle in the front and uh and a a vehicle that follows us. And we're now in this Guayaquil, this community in Ecuador. Now, long story short, we wait our duty rest time. We go to sleep. We find the only shul in town. We daven. And um we head back to Florida. Well, when we get to Florida, there was a line of customs. Now, we're not We don't have priority flying cuz we're not medevac anymore with the patient. We're just a regular airplane. We come back and we land at about 6:00. And um we end up waiting for customs CBP officers an hour. So, we don't leave the airport until 7:00 something. We're thinking we're going to eat like we're going to stuff our face before Tisha B'Av. We leave the airport at 7:00 something. And we just couldn't we we're like no restaurants are open, no food. So, there's this really fun guy. His name is Rebbe Chanan Gaubert. We call him Rebbe Chanan. He's He's also known to to to our friends as Eric Gaubert. We're like, him well. You know Eric from from Florida? We're like, Wonderful human being. We're like, "Eric, we just touched down to get Eicha. We would have flown back to New York, but we had to get Eicha." So, we arranged this whole thing that we'd be able to eat a meal. Hashem had other plans. We hadn't really had anything real to eat in 2 days. And now we're going to have our big meal before Tisha B'Av. Long story short, at this You didn't even ask a question. I don't even know why I'm telling you No, this is better. The podcast hasn't even started. Absolutely stopped. So, now you understand what this is about. This is like I'm talking about like how hungry I was. I'm still feeling that like as I'm talking, my mouth is salivating. I'm thinking, "Give me a good pastrami sandwich or something right now." Did Eric come through? Well, anyway, so we call Eric. He's like, "Should I meet you halfway?" We're like, "No, no. We're going to get there." Anyway, 7:00 I don't remember the times. You can look them up, but I think it was 7:58 was the last time we could eat. 7:56, we pull in front of his car. And we're like racing in. And this guy is a rock star. He set up next to each seat. There were four of us. Next to each seat, he set up as much as you could. So, I had the salmon seat. And I think he set up like five pieces of salmon for I I know, me and four other people. but I had all five pieces of salmon in 120 seconds together with some water, together with some egg, and that was it. Wow. And then we went into tissue work. And Hashem does the rest. Like normally I'm starving. I wake up with like this this crazy headache. Hashem just figured it out. Those five pieces of salmon, and I was totally good the whole tissue work. So that's our life. Our life is siyata d'Shmaya in every single step of the day. Everywhere we go, no matter what, it's all siyata d'Shmaya. Wow, you know, you're giving a lot of credit for siyata d'Shmaya, which is very nice. I can appreciate that, but you don't know him as well as I do. Yeah, I You don't know him as well. But you have to give yourself a little bit more credit as well. I Wait. I spend a lot more time close to him than you do, right? That's true. So I know him better. I give a lot of credit cuz he deserves a lot of credit. But can we also take a moment to recognize what what you're doing and your crew, what they're doing? I mean, this story that you just said, I mean, I'm like a regular person. I'm a normal guy. This is like for me foreign language. I don't know what you just said. Like this is probably something you do all the time, and you're saying like, "Yeah, it was siyata d'Shmaya." I'm like blown away over here. I'm like, "Wait a second. Like what's happening? What's going on? How do you like How do you even like come to this? Like how did this all happen? Like this this is like This is unbelievable. Listen, you know, I know all the guys in our team. I don't know them all well, but we have today over 380 guys. I know them all Wow. in some way, shape, or form. I don't know them all well. We're ordinary guys that are just doing extraordinary things. But I think there is nothing that we do at Hatzalah Air that anyone couldn't do. The difference is that instead of sitting home and saying, "You know what? I'm not interested." That whole lo saam l'da'at re'echa concept, right? I think we're a little bit hyper-focused on it. So when we hear somebody in distress, you know, it's pretty cool. Like when you see somebody coming into shul and he's collecting, you know you're going to get You know he's getting over to you. You need to quickly wrap up your tfillin and sneak out the back door cuz he's got seven other guys before you. Or you can take the dollar out of your tfillin bag and you can walk over to him before he walks over to you. We're just like that. We're just We're just wired a little bit differently, but I don't think we're extraordinary. I think we're ordinary dudes doing extraordinary things because we feel for that stranger that we never met the pain that he feels or that his mother feels. Let's talk about last night. You know about the search You heard about the search of the little kid in Arizona? I think everybody spread like wildfire that story. I don't I don't think it was such a crazy story. A kid got lost, right? What's crazy is that ordinary people say, "This could have been my child." Now, if it was, we would not be able to sleep. Yet, so many people in Klal Yisrael were able to sleep when somebody else's kid was missing. I can't sleep when somebody else's kid is missing. Hundreds of other people in Hatzalah Air cannot sleep when somebody else's kid is missing. And I got to tell you something. I'm perpetually sleep deprived. I can sleep anywhere, anytime. I probably have been at meetings with everyone, and I and I just fall asleep at my table. But I could not fall asleep when I knew this child was missing. So it wasn't even a question that we were going to go. Wow. How did you get that phone call? What happened? I actually got it 42 different times. My phone just blew up. We got the brother of the father. I got my brother in Orlando. We got chaverim. We got all different types of groups called up, and they said, "We want to help. We are no'sa b'ol chavero. We want We feel it, and just like if it was around the corner or around the world, we're going to drop everything to help somebody we never met for free 24 hours a day, and we're not going to stop until it happens." Wow. What was the first thing you did when you decided that, all right, we're going to get involved? This is Hatzalah Air time. This is where we thrive. What was the first thing you did? You know, I'm really like publicly I'm I'm I'm debating whether I should tell you the story because there was so many reasons for us to fail that night. I mean, so many reasons for us to fail. We got to get pilots. We got to get preflight. We got to get fuel. We got to get clearance. We got to get the team on. We got to get all the equipment on. We got to fly into an airport we never met and we never landed at before. I mean, every single possible reason for failure existed. The one thing that was an absolute go no-go was fuel. Now, we have our own fuel truck in Sullivan County. Guess what? It had only 600 gallons or 800 gallons, a small amount, and we needed it You know, we burn a lot of fuel in that thing. We burn about 300 gallons an hour. Wow. On on that Each gallon weighs about 6 lb, so we burn burn 1,800 when we're all the way at altitude. When we're low down, we can burn 400 gallons an hour. And we got to go minimum 4 hours plus have an hour or two of reserve. So we need a lot of fuel on board. Couple of thousand? No, no. More way way more than a couple of thousand. We burned each direction, you know, probably about 11 or 12,000 lb. Wow. Got it? Wow. So for us, you know, that's at least 2,000 3,000 plus gallons or more. 3,000 plus gallons each direction, right? So we didn't have it. So we said, "Okay, no big deal. We have a backup truck in Sullivan County Airport, which is run by the county." And we work beautifully with them. We tried everyone we could get, and we couldn't get anyone. And I said, literally, I don't think my team even knows this. We turned around. I walked over to a window, which I do often. I'm Me and windows, we get along very well. And I find a window, and I look up, and I say, "Hashem, this is one of your little babies lost in the forest. If you want us to go, make it work." Second later, he gives me this idea. I call the undersheriff of Sullivan County. His name is Eric Scheibodi. He's a wonderful wonderful public I I would call him public servant, but public servant sounds almost nice. He's just a tzaddik that his his world is is law enforcement. He likes to help everybody. He's a the tough guy, but super fair and super helpful. I wake him up at whatever it was, 2:30 at night. I said, "Eric, I would not wake you unless it's important." He goes, "I know. What do you got? What do you need?" I said, "We have this little kid that's lost in Arizona. I don't know I don't know his family. I don't know anything about him. But I know that we have a team that's ready to go. We have a plane that's ready to go. We have pilots that's ready to go. We have Hatzalah Air volunteers that are ready to go. We have chaverim, drone units that are coming. We're doing this joint effort with Hatzalah Air. It's our mission. We're ready to go. And we don't feel." He goes, "I'm going to wake up the head of the DPW." Head of the DPW calls me 2 minutes later. He says, "I'm going to wake up this head guy, backup guy, this guy." 25 minutes later, he pulls up. We get fuel. I said, "Hashem, thank you so much." All of a sudden we're about to pull out, and our plane was pulled there, and our wing was so close to the other wing. Boom, he gave us another solution. We moved one of the planes with a tug that we had behind us. Every step of the way, we felt that we just had hands lifting Klal Yisrael's planes off the ground. Now, I don't want to sound cliché, but just the fact is that we would not have been able to do it with this extra siyata d'Shmaya. So when you say, "Don't give me this frum business," I'm not. I'm giving you this fact business. It's called siyata d'Shmaya, which means when Hashem wants you to go, what you need to do is you need to start the path forward in the right direction, and you need to say, "Hashem, I'm going to do what I got. You give me what I need." think what Ushy was also trying to say, though, just to clarify I knew you understood what I said. Is that what What makes you extraordinary, and you and your team, of course, is the fact that my phone is on silent when I go to sleep. I just forget about everything. I just need to check out cuz I need to recharge. I feel like, you know, what recharges you is the act of the siyata d'Shmaya that happens, which is so beautiful to see that happens to you. And just to be here today and share in this moment in this energetic moment with you is really really an honor. So I just want to start us off, guys, by saying, "Welcome back, everybody, to another fantastic, amazing, exciting episode of the None of Your Business Podcast." We are joined by none other than Ellie Roe. Ellie, there are so many titles and accolades that I can give you, and I wouldn't even know where to begin, but I could say one thing. You're not only my friend, you're everybody's friend. The fact is that I was at that chaverim get-together and was witnessing while everybody was thanking each other for the year that they spent when they have that get-together when Yossi Margaretten got that call. And just watching things happen from the background is I think what Ushy was mentioning earlier. Thank you again, of course, for Prime Source for sponsoring. This one I'm going to mention is sponsored by Hatzalah Air cuz like I said to you earlier, Ellie, whatever I could do at least with my time to help this wonderful organization, I am going to do, including explaining to everyone why Hatzalah is spelled so differently all over the world. I'm going to get this message out there. I'm going to help you. That's my commitment here on the on this program. There is a little bit noise behind us from time to time because we are on the tarmac, literally, surrounded by these beautiful planes. Um so again, I just want to thank you for allowing us this opportunity. Uh it's something that was uh really just you say out of the blue? Nothing's out of the blue, and I think that's what Ellie was referring to before with siyata d'Shmaya, Ushy. I I'm super stoked and excited to hear a little bit more about the rescue mission, but more about how you are helping together with your team of course. Ellie, and I know you don't like to talk about yourself, but it's something that we just want to learn about the extraordinary things. We understand the ordinary. We want to We want to peek a little you know, a little hole. Just give us a little an idea of what the extraordinary is here, and it's hard to describe it in words, but I know together we can articulate it. And Ushy, I'm excited. Yeah, this is unbelievable. And you know what I think about when I hear a little snippet of what he just told us, and I'm sure there's a lot more coming. First thing that comes to my mind is I'm so proud and privileged that I'm part of a nation who you have people like this that don't even give themselves enough credit. And they're thanking God for everything. Without God, I wouldn't You know what? Sure, God is there to support us, and he's there to lift us up, but we have to do that first step. We have to get out there and do things and make things happen. And the average person, the casual person like myself, I mean, like you said Michael, our phone's on silent that night. I don't know what goes on in the world. I only find that about things I'm not putting myself in the situations. I'm not asserting myself. I'm thinking about my next baseball game in my in my league that I want to make it to the championship. Like that's where my head's at. And then you have people like this that live their entire lives for other people, and they don't even think of it as a big deal. And I'm a part of this community. I am a part of this nation, and I don't think anybody else outside of this nation understands what goes on and what we do for one another. You know, in business Michael, we talk all the time to non-Jews. And a lot of times we get into conversations about what goes on, you know, Jewish people, and they're very fascinated by our lifestyles and our culture. And a lot of times we try to explain to them things like Tomchei Shabbos and like Hatzolah. And they're blown away. Like what are you talking about? Uh we need ambulance, we call 911. Like we don't call 911. 911? We call Hatzolah. Like what's Hatzolah? And we start describing it to them, and it's just shocking. And these are the type of people that we have walking amongst us, and they're not wearing capes, but they should be. You couldn't have said it better. Ellie, I have to ask you. The last time I saw you, I'm going to remind you, I was in your apartment, Yerushalayim. We were No, we can't talk about that? Okay. We're getting the nod already. This is We're getting the none of your business discussion. All right. So first of all, let me make a l'chaim to you. I'm not sure if you're allowed to drink here. Shabbos after all. It is Friday, so I have to tell you something. I'm going to say l'chaim, but you will never see me ever. I think this is the most We can go back on the record for this because this is the absolute Ellie will not make a l'chaim with me. This is the absolute craziest thing anybody's ever done walk into our hangar in the planes You know, we didn't think this through. I'll be honest with you. Apparently we didn't think this through. But But But I'll have some some kosher vodka although that pilot pilot-friendly vodka. Yeah, for sure. Cold water. Yeah. Nice. Ellie, I I want to tell you something. Go for it. Uh Michael, we need to have a like a better prep session before we show up. Yeah, we show up. and off a pilot and then get going on an airplane and on a mission. apologize. Yes. Okay. The aesthetics are no good. So somebody send these guys the rule book, please. I I want to tell you Ellie about my first experience with Hatzolah, and I'm This is a story that I've heard from people in Hatzolah about a person that did this, and it was me. So I'm going to tell you this story that happened when I was a very young kid. I was driving in a car with a Hatzolah member, and a Hatzolah call came out. Now, there's no rules, right? What do you do if you're a passenger in a Hatzolah car, and Hatzolah needs to go? My friend's not going to kick me out and say I'll be back. I'm going with him, lights and sirens, right? My energy is just all like, "Wow, this is exciting. Where are we going to go?" Guy flips a U-ey on McDonald Avenue, heads towards Coney Island Avenue and Avenue I on the corner. We get there, he jumps out. Sure enough, there's a school bus, a mini school bus that got into a terrible accident with two other cars. Called a multiple MVA is what I learned that day. But there's another thing I learned that day. MVA is motor vehicle accident. Yes, thank you. Thank you. All right. By the way, I wasn't sure, so I appreciate that. Otherwise, I wouldn't have asked. So I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to embarrass myself and tell you what happened to me really quickly. So there were 20 Hatzolah members running around. Everyone was doing their thing, helping patch kids up, and you know, there was blood everywhere unfortunately, and it looked like things were under control, but somebody One of the Hatzolah members So I got out of the car, and I was just looking around. And naturally, I guess one of the Hatzolah members thought I was in Hatzolah, even though I was I was young. I think I was 18, 17 to give myself credit for what I'm about to say about myself. So one of the Hatzolah members comes to me with one of these children. He's like maybe like 11 years old, and he hands him over to me, and he says, "Get him on a bus." And I said, "Absolutely, no problem." And I grab the kid. My adrenaline is pumping, and my heart's racing, and I'm so excited. I have a mission from Hatzolah. And I take this kid, and I go stand by the B11 bus stop under the awning, and I'm waiting there. And I'm sitting there, and I'm looking at the kid, and I say, "You're going to be okay. I'm going to get you on a bus. Where do you live? Where are you going?" And he looks up at me, he goes, "I live on Avenue L." And he I said, "It's okay. Let me wipe that little blood off your face." WHAT AM WHAT AM I HEARING HERE? And then suddenly, Ushy Egger, who's the one who I was with, who brought me on the call, looks at me, he goes, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" AND I'M LIKE, "WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHAT AM I DOING? I'M GETTING him on a bus. I was told. I'm part of Hatzolah now. I'm F100." And he's like, "Give me that kid." And he grabs that kid from me. And that That story will live forever in Hatzolah. And uh So Michael, are you You know, on an airplane has never been the same. No, no, no. He's traumatized. My point of the story was that as an 18 or I'm going to say I was 15 then, embarrassed that I didn't know what a bus was, living in Brooklyn, I did not know what Hatzolah was. I knew if you're choking, if you bleed, if you cut your finger slicing challah, if you know, God forbid someone's having a an episode or a situation, you call 327-1750, or you know, You know the number of Hatzolah by heart? Yes. Yes. it? Yes. 425-1600. But there's two numbers in Brooklyn. What What are they? What are the numbers? 327-1750. That's one. And what's the What's the other number? I said 425-1600. Okay, fine. See, you're both wrong. You should both be embarrassed. We're both wrong. And I I actually want to I actually want to I actually want to turn I'm talking about Monsey. It doesn't matter. You live in New York. You work in Brooklyn. You You You should both be embarrassed. You should be ashamed of yourself. I'm thinking about terminating this uh this podcast no. Please. until until you go home and memorize it and show me you can do it. I know the phone number of Hatzolah in the Five Towns though, if that helps. Okay, we're going to cut this story. No, we're not going to cut it. So the phone number that everybody needs to know by heart. It's First of all, it was 387-1750, not 327. I know it's only one digit, but One digit can save a life. And that makes all the difference. When that kid is drowned, and and you're you're calling 327, and and the the Domino's Pizza delivery says, "How many slices?" It's just not going to work out well. So it's 387. There's also another one that's 230-1000. Can I ask you a question? If you're anywhere in the world and you need to call Hatzolah, what is the first number you should call? 230-1000. That can dispatch everyone? It They'll They'll get you in touch with anyone and everything. So 230-1000. Yeah. In any in in any area code that that the from people live. So it's 718-212 845. I I I you have to check it out. I think it's 845, but I'm pretty sure. But 230-1000 is a number that you should know. You should have it in your phone in case of emergency. You should memorize it, and you should make your children and your employees and and really anybody that that Everybody should know the number by heart. And then you call them up, and you say, "Listen, I'm on vacation. I'm in, you know, uh wherever I am. I'm in Antwerp in Belgium, and uh we just had a bad car accident." And they will figure out how to get in touch with with uh you know, Antwerp Hatzolah. Wow. And they'll make it work. So is there Hatzolah in every single community? Like what's the minimum amount of people in the community you have to have until they say, "We got to have Hatzolah here now." So So I'm not I'm not here to represent, you know, the Chevra Hatzolah network. I'm I'm proud that I am the director of one of many many many organizations that are associated with or affiliated or part of the Hatzolah global network. To answer that question is no, they're not in every area. Chabad, I think, is in every area that either there is a Jew, was a Jew, will be a Jew, or Okay, sorry. We don't have any Jews, but we're going to put a Chabad in anyway, right? They're in over 100 countries, and I don't know how many thousands and thousands of cities. Hatzolah doesn't work that way. Hatzolah is a organization that helps when there's a large enough pool to be able to say, "Hey, let's create some sort of first response system." The key here, I think, and I and I love sharing the story about the history of how Hatzolah came about because that story just replicates itself over and over in more and more communities. So this week is the first time I in my life I spent some really meaningful time with the founder of Hatzolah. Now, I'm going to get on public a public podcast, and I'm going to say something that you're probably going to be horrified with. And I'm going to say I think that the guy who started Hatzolah was an ordinary an ordinary dad, an ordinary husband, an ordinary member of the community, not a Superman, and not an extraordinary guy. And this kind of comes to what we spoke about before this podcast started. His name is Hershel Weber. He was a regular dude. I would not say he's the most brilliant man I ever met. His kids are probably saying, "Oh my gosh, how you talking about my father?" I would not say he's the biggest visionary I ever met. I would say he's an average, ordinary member of community. And he witnessed somebody get really sick and die. And he was frustrated. He was pained that he waited an extraordinary amount of time for what should have been an ordinary service, 911, to show up and give some care. So, he went out and bought one oxygen tank in 1966. And he said, "If it ever happens again, I'm going to have an oxygen tank." And that's what happened for the next year or two. At a certain period, at a certain time, he said to himself, "What good is it if I have my one oxygen tank? Let me go out and figure out a way." This ordinary guy came up with this idea. He started something called Chevra Hatzalah, which is just a bunch of guys that are, you know, rescuers, cuz the word Hatzalah is just a simple Hebrew word to mean rescue. And I don't know the exact details, you can ask him, but my understanding is he took 30 guys and he said, "I'm going to give you each an oxygen tank and a first aid kit." And he took He went around Williamsburg, his little community, and any house that had a mezuzah gave them a little sticker with a number back then that was EV7, you know, for those of us who are more than uh over 21 years old, they used to have all sorts of ways to remember. EV was like evergreen, like always on, seven 7 days a week, which is really the numbers correspond to 387, which is the existing number still today of Hatzalah. And he gave them a sticker and said, "If anybody has an emergency, somebody gets burnt, somebody falls out of a uh uh off a ladder, somebody has a heart attack, somebody has a uh uh a delivery, anything that's going on, call this number." And he found some ladies to volunteer to take shifts to answer the phone. And then he gave these 30 volunteers a beeper. Do you know what a beeper is, by the No, of course. Yeah, what's a beeper? I can I What is a beeper? A beeper is that little device on the side of your belt That what? that just tells you a phone number to call back back. Wrong. Second time you're wrong today. Well, that's not a beeper? That's not a beeper. I'm happy you said it then. That's a pager, cuz that's what you were thinking. So, next time I should let you answer. Yeah, yeah, because we're not on a roll here. I hate to call you out on your own podcast. No, please do. Go for it. I called myself out already. No, that's sophisticated. That's a pager, you look down and you see a number. You know what a beeper is? A beeper is something that you wear that beeps. All it does is beep. So, you walk and there's no number on it. These are That's very sophisticated, a pager. And even the newer ones actually had a message, like a text message on them. And then when we got really cool, we had our Blackberries, right? I remember the Blackberries. We could talk back to that, right? Or two-way pager. No. A beeper, all it did is beep. So, you wore a little box on your belt and it beeped. And when it beeped, you know what you did if you were one of those 30 volunteers? You called that same number. That I'm going to say 2301000, which is the new version of the 3877150, but you call 2301000 and you go, "Hi, it's Moishe. Hi, it's Duvy. Hi, it's Yitzchak." And they would The lady would say, "Hi, this is Hatzalah, where is your emergency?" And you and you'd say, "No, no, I'm one of your volunteers." And they'd be like, "Great, on 1234, you know, 36th Street, somebody fell out of a window." And you would rush. The problem was that you would take this to shul with you on Shabbos and you had to tape, you know, a dime or whatever it was to make a phone call cuz you would have to run to a payphone. Oh, wow. And that's how Hatzalah started by having one guy who was an ordinary guy said, "I can either turn off my cell phone." I'm kidding, they didn't have cell phones back then. I can unplug my phone at night so I don't get bothered or I can figure out how 30 guys in my community can each get first aid equipment, can each have a pager, can give them all dimes or nickels, whatever it was back then in in 1969, and can organize some ladies to be able to answer that phone 24 hours a day in shifts, and then be able to dispatch them out. That is an ordinary guy doing something extraordinary. We just spoke about um Hatzalah and the origins of Hatzalah. It's my understanding that Hatzalah Air is its entirely separate entity, a it serves a different function. Tell me a little bit about Hatzalah Air and how it came to be, number one, and number two, what are the capabilities that Hatzalah Air has? Like, how far can you take things that you can help serve the community and their needs? So, Hatzalah Air's potential is unlimited, right? We're we've been a proof of concept for the first few years. We started with a dream in 2018, and 18, presented the dream to the Chevra Hatzalah executive board and said, "The same way you've given permission to Hatzalah branches to open up in South Florida and Detroit and places all over the country and all over the world, we'd like to present a new place." And I remember their reaction. They all know me. I mean, I've been around the block. My father started Hatzalah in Queens in 1977. I started the paramedics in 1991. And I'm sitting with this in Brooklyn, I'm sitting at a board meeting, and I said, "Listen, I'd like to open up a new Hatzalah organization." So, they're like, "Where?" And I put on my PowerPoint and I show them and I said, "I'll get to it in a minute." They go, "But where? Everywhere that there are Jews, there's Hatzalah." So, I said, "In the sky." And they were so I'm going to use the word stunned at my idea that they just said, "Sure, go for it." And a year or two later they'll tell you, I actually think it's cute. They'll tell you, "We knew there was no chance it was going to happen. So, rather than argue with Eli Rowe, we just said yes. What are we going to sit there and and argue? It wasn't going to happen anyway." With extreme siyata d'Shmaya, not regular siyata d'Shmaya, that week, while we were trying to fundraise to to potentially collect enough money to buy our first little plane to be able to get, one guy who's a superstar, I'm going to say his name now, but I'm going to have to get permission for you to allow to do it. Ben Philipson, do you know who he is? Absolutely. Yeah. You know, he gave us our first aircraft in one phone call. Wow. When I expected us to take at least 20 guys to try to give them 180,000 for them to give 180,000 each and then buy a cheap plane and who knows, and he made Hatzalah Air real in one call. Now, subsequent to them, there've been many, well, not many, but there've been a fair amount of incredibly generous and good and and people that are that want to give, guys like Adam Sassounis. Do you know the Sassounis brother, Adam and Josh Sassounis and their family? I know. They own a company called Dwight Capital. Have you heard of Dwight Capital? Yes. I've seen you at ECAP. Yeah. But let me tell you let me tell you one of your first years you were there. talk about ECAP. I didn't even know what ECAP was. I know what a Hatzalah cap is, I don't know what ECAP is. Now, it happens to be owned by this really, really, really great guy and his partner, Mendy Josephovic, who I love. I love the guy. And Michael Bauman. Just the cutest guys, but I don't know what they do for a living. I know them, and they're just fun. Well, anyway, so, the Sassounis family donates an airplane to Hatzalah Air. Okay? Actually, one of these that are out there, I'm not sure which one, but they they give us an airplane. Let me tell you how an ordinary person can do something extraordinary. At ECAP, where you saw me, they paid for some beach cabana. I don't know how much it cost. They served there a barbecue and they served Let's say it was $100,000. That's used to marketing. Adam calls me up and he says, "Listen, I'm going to ECAP. There's a whole bunch of potential Hatzalah Air partners in the future. I've anyway paid for it and there's a big sign that says Dwight Capital. Why don't I just make it Dwight Capital and Hatzalah Air? And I'll brand all the products and all the stations, the sushi station and the barbecue, we'll just call it this is the the Dwight and Hatzalah Air station." He said, "It's not going to hurt my business, it's only going to help tzedakah." This is a visionary. This is an ordinary guy with extraordinary vision that's able to do extraordinary chesed that's going to get extraordinary s'char because he didn't just focus on Dwight Capital and the Sassounis pocket. He said, "How can I leverage what I have and what Hashem gave me and multiply that and give rewards all around the world?" And I got to tell you something, it's extraordinary. Last week in He has a home in Englewood, he makes an event after the nine days, and he does an event every year. This year he said the event is to benefit Hatzalah Air. Wow. It's just thinking thinking better, thinking bigger, thinking broader, and I think that's what the essence of Hatzalah Air is. Hatzalah Air is a collection of 380 rock stars that are regular people doing rock star moves. And we are an organization that's now part of we're part of the Hatzalah network, but there is a vast difference between Hatzalah Air and all the other Hatzalahs. Before I tell you the vast difference, and it's not readily apparent what it is. I know you say, "Oh, yeah, you guys are airplanes and they're ground ambulances." That's not what I'm going to talk about. Before I say that, I need you to understand that Hatzoloh is not like Chabad or like any franchise or any connection to a base. Hatzoloh are an incredible group of selfless individuals in a particular town, a Jewish with Jewish population, that raise their money, responsible for everything on their own as their own business. It's a not-for-profit business. It's a 501c3 business, but it's their own organization, their own business. And there's no connection between Panama Hatzoloh and Chicago Hatzoloh. There's zero connection between Flatbush Hatzoloh and Monsey Hatzoloh. There's no connection between Australia Hatzoloh and I don't know, Shaare Chesed Hatzoloh in Israel. We all use the word Hatzoloh in our name, the word Hatzoloh. We all have that same passion for saving lives, but we're all completely separate. Does that make sense? Most people Most people think Most people think, "Hey, if I've given Hatzoloh in in Miami Beach and they come to the Catskills, that they shouldn't give Hatzoloh in the Catskills." No. You can give to a Hatzoloh in Israel a million dollars, no one else will ever see a penny of that money. You can give Hatzoloh in Sao Paulo $100,000 and Miami will never see that. It's literally each Hatzoloh organization. Did you know there's over 20 Hatzolohs in Israel? Wow. Over 20 Hatzolohs. There's Hatzoloh in Rechovot, and there's Hatzoloh in Shaare Chesed, where I'm a member of, and there's Hatzoloh in Beit Shemesh. It's called You know what it's called? Hatzoloh Beit Shemesh. Wow. And there's Hatzoloh in Bnei Brak. It's called Hatzoloh Bnei Brak. There's no connection between them. In New York, you have probably what, five, 10 different Hatzolohs? Oh, much more than that. than that? More than that? Yeah. In Israel In Israel, you have Ichud Hatzoloh, right? You have uh Hatzoloh LeLo Gvulot. You have Hatzoloh just different Hatzolohs. In New York, you have uh Upper East Side, Upper West Side. You have Flatbush, you have Borough Park, you have Queens, you have Far Rockaway and Lawrence. You have Canarsie, you have Staten Island. You have so many Hatzolohs. They all share one dispatch. I guess that's the difference. But again, because you wouldn't want to have a separate phone number for Flatbush and Queen, for Flatbush and and Borough Park that are literally almost sharing Ocean Parkway. So, they share a dispatch and they share a phone number, but even then, Flatbush Hatzoloh has their own 501c3, their own coordinators, their own ambulances, their own membership, their own radios, their own equipment, their own training. It's an unbelievably successful organization, Flatbush Hatzoloh, alongside another unbelievably successful organization called Borough Park Hatzoloh that share the same central dispatch, but their own organizations. So, first and foremost, understand that every Hatzoloh in the world, almost like every university or every hospital in the world, you know, they all share the word university, they all share the word hospital, they all share the word yeshiva, but they're not connected. Zero connection other than in mission. But what's Ellie, before you tell us now the Hatzoloh air, how it's different, I just want to point out in our business, what we do, is we help long-term care facilities streamline all their expenses and access our buying power. So, one nursing home is not just one nursing home. When you join us, you're a part of an entity that has thousands of nursing homes. And we leverage our buying power to get better pricing for the products that they're buying. I found out that Hatzoloh is individual, a collection of individuals, and they're all buying their own supplies. And I when I heard about this, for me given, you know, what I do, I was like, "This makes no sense. They're They're actually hurting themselves. This is a problem. Like, I got to bring this to somebody's attention at Hatzoloh." That's when I found out. It's I started asking around, "You know, who should I talk to? Who's the purchaser? Who's the procurement director of Hatzoloh?" And I found out there isn't. Everybody's kind of doing their own thing. And I finally did get in touch with someone at Hatzoloh. I don't want to say his name. Um and he said, you know, "Look, there isn't one person, but I can spread the word around to different places and perhaps you can have them team up." He said, "But I'm telling you right now, it's very political. You're going to have a very hard time doing it." And I tried. And I started speaking to one Hatzoloh station at a time. I probably spoke to 10 different ones. And I tried to get everybody kind of team up, we have one formula for everybody. We're all going to, you know, we're going to lump We're going to bulk everybody's purchasing together. After like a couple of months, I gave up. I realized that it was just too many people, there was too many pots, and it became a real challenge. Michael, I don't know if you remember this. And I said I And I wanted to help because it was Hatzoloh. It wasn't just It started It started with the guy in Florida. That's how it started. Yeah. When we found out, the guy in Hatzoloh came to us to help him with his purchasing, and that's what we found out. But I digress. I just wanted to point that out. And you know what? It's actually one of my dreams. I have I have very few dreams, but one of my dreams is to streamline the world of Hatzoloh. It is. And I'm not here to talk about it today. I will tell you that by the same token, if every yeshiva would buy shtenders from one source, There you go. and every hospital bought medical equipment from one source, and every university bought laptops from one source, then the universities would have a cheaper that they're buying those laptops. The fact is, you need to put into your head that Panama Hatzoloh and Monsey Hatzoloh are both called Hatzoloh, but they're literally as different as two universities in different sides of the world, that there's Their university is a place that you go to learn. Wow. There isn't any synergy at all from what that all locations share? There isn't some commonality? It sounds to me that the one thing they share is if they need ear support, they call you. Well, we're going to get to that. Well, we're we're we're That's a great segue into what makes us different, Right. but I still don't want to don't want to take away from the fact that we do have a brotherhood. Sure. Of course. Just like, you know, all anesthesiologists in the world, if you're traveling and you're you're sitting next to a guy on a ski lift in in Utah in January, and you say to the guy, "Hey, where you from?" And he says, "Well, I'm from LA." And where are you from? And he says, "I'm from London." He says, "Oh, what do you do?" He says, "I'm a doctor." "Oh, really? What type of doctor?" Anesthesiologist. And he says, "Me, too." They're just going to be able to connect Instantly connect. So, the largest if you would boys club in the frum world is Hatzoloh. Hatzoloh. And it doesn't really matter whether you're from Hatzoloh in Chicago, you're from Hatzoloh in Shaare Chesed, or you're from Hatzoloh in South Florida. You're card-carrying member of Hatzoloh, you can connect and you can As it should be. As it should be. What's a little sad, and I agree with you, is that we don't leverage that brotherhood. And if you look at every IKEA store in the world, when you travel to another country and you need something because your kid has an apartment there and you want to buy something, you're going to feel a certain sense of relative comfort walking into IKEA saying, "Hey, I know we've got those back home in America." It's familiar. It's familiar. And even the color from the outside of the store is familiar. It's disappointing to me, but I understand how it happened. It happened because they all sprung up as individual. It wasn't planted as a big vineyard. It was separate stalks and separate plantings that happened. It's disappointing that a Hatzoloh ambulance in Switzerland doesn't look identical to a Hatzoloh ambulance in the Catskills, which doesn't look identical to a Hatzoloh ambulance in Chicago or LA or Australia or South Africa, because when a Yid travels and they would see it, I think it would give a little bit more comfort to say, "Oh, as they're walking towards us, I know that uniform. I know that ambulance." like a piece of home. It feels like a piece of home. And you know, that is really the beauty what I think in branding, right? When you look at every any store that's out there that that has it, they try to keep everything identical that even the shopping experience when you walk around, "Oh, you know, we've got the sushi when you walk in on the right." Imagine doing that in any place you travel, you feel like I I feel at home. I feel good in this store. Amen. And I think that it's a it's a weakness that wasn't built by design, it was built by default, right? That they started in Chicago, and today it's run by this incredible group, you know, one of them One of the leaders in Chicago is Simcha Frank. He's actually a Hatzoloh air member. And I would love to speak to him and speak to the guys in South Florida and to do it. The person to make that happen is not me, is There's a pretty cool superstar that you should uh you should put on your show one day called Rabbi Kalech, Yefiel Kalech. That is the person I was speaking to. Well, you know what? I don't want to say his name, but now that you brought it up I'll mention it. He's the guy that can make it happen. He's The problem with him is he's Everybody wants a piece of Yefiel Kalech. He's just pulled in so many directions that it's working. And he's worried about uh uh probably a lot more important things that aren't working right now, but I've chatted with him about it. We're going to get it done. Between me and Rabbi Kalech and some others, I would love to be a part of that mission when the time comes. Michael and I both. By the way, this is where we could certainly contribute is our expertise. Is we can do a whole lot of damage to Hatzoloh in a very positive way. So, when that time comes, we'd love to be a part of it. I'm I'm into I'm always into one plus one becoming 11. And somebody like Rabbi Kalech that. And somebody like Rabbi Kalech can make that happen. It is unfortunately, when you deal with Jews, mm, you can put together a four coordinators from one community, one neighborhood, they can't even themselves decide what color to paint to paint the ambulance. Yep. So, but that's what makes us great, too. That's what makes us great. And and And so, to be able to make it work, to expect that all others follow what somebody else did, no way, especially since they have their own cooperation. Everybody's a leader. Everybody is a pioneer. Everybody wants to trailblaze. That's why all these things happen. This is where you have a lot of doers, shakers, and movers all over the place. And I have to tell you something, me conquer small, right? Look Look how somebody, again, in a small community that has a good 911 system, they say, "You know what? It's not good enough. We want to know that you have somebody who who appreciates what Shabbos is, who appreciates what the the complexities of tires and mishpacha is, who appreciates the the complexities in general of tzniut, of kashrut, of of Shabbos and Yom Tov halacha, to come in." It's not just We're not 911. We're not another ambulance company. We're a nice of a chevre organization, right? And we can relate differently. So, even as a first response, that bridge that gap during the the darkest moments in someone's life, to have a frum person who gets it walk in and say, "I can relate to your situation." That's priceless. That's Hatzolah. Well, speaking of I I I want to give a little bit of credit to the word Hatzolah, right? So, you're right. The fact is, you do have the ability now to connect them just using that one word. When you need someone and you're anywhere around the world, you world, you say, "I need Hatzolah." Right? So, that We're already a step in the right direction because the word Hatzolah is being used. Uh in fact, I was just in Israel and it was a 11:30 in the morning and we were traveling and one of us uh was happened to look at his phone and uh it's 4:30 in the morning in America and someone on a group chat puts in the chat, there's like must be 40 people on the chat, "Is anybody up?" No one's responding, of course, until one of them says, "Yes, I'm up. What's going on?" "I need help." Long story short, this guy was suffering. He had no idea how to communicate with anyone. He was home alone and he just wrote, "I need Hatzolah." And that immediately got someone in the car to call Hatzolah and someone came over right away and saved this person's life. And I just want to give a little credit to the word Hatzolah. And the fact is, Eli, I think that you're onto something and I'm I'm a fan of it and I'm also backing Ushi in saying that it's not so crazy of a wish. Well, it's it's definitely a wish of mine to see more of a connection, but also the to create the economies of scale, to to leverage the buying power for us to be able to put it together. Um certain people have done it. A friend of mine uh Moishe Braver, who was a coordinator in Williamsburg, he took charge. He's a He's a independent thinker and a and a take-charge type of guy. He's also uh on the executive board of Chevra Hatzolah and he's also a proud Hatzolah Air member. He spoke with a company called Stryker that owns LifePak. They They monitor Very familiar. And he was able to negotiate a buying power for LifePaks, which is probably something that you guys do all day, every day. Yep. For for that and for stretchers and I don't know how many other things he may have done this with, but it's starting to happen and and the ability for us to buy ambulances cheaper when we band together and buy insurance cheaper. I know that Rabbi Kailish and Chevra Hatzolah's executive board, you know, works with other New York-based organizations for things like uh liability insurance and other things. So, it does happen. It has not yet happened on a global and a broader scale, but there are a lot of great people in Hatzolah and uh You know, speaking of streamlining, let's go back to you getting the gasoline you needed last uh two nights ago, right? At 4:00 in the morning was it? I believe, right? Where you're waking everybody up and you know, you're talking about streamlining an organization, what about working with other organizations? It's you know, So, so that's that's another great segue to to put us back on track, something that I tend to to deviate off of all the time, which is why I have autopilot. It just puts us back on track or I I I'd end up who knows where, right? So, Hatzolahs in general operate within their geographic, what's called a PAR, primary area of response. So, Flatbush Hatzolah, the lines may be gray. Does it go all the way to, you know, somewhere before the Belt Parkway on one side and Ocean Parkway on the other side and up to maybe the Belt Parkway back again, you know, on the other side and down to to to who knows where, the Jackie Robinson, right? Where do the lines start and end? But they all have a geographic response. Mexico City, Mexico Hatzolah handles the Jewish community in Mexico and Panama and and Brazil, etc. Hatzolah Air, as opposed to being a B2C organization, a business to consumer, right? South Florida Hatzolah is the business, whether it's a for-profit that, you know, they are not-for-profit business, run as a business. They service the consumer. Somebody drowns or somebody gets hit by a car, they go out and they take care of them. Hatzolah, we don't get called by the public. The public Would you know the number to call Hatzolah Air? No. Great point. No. You wouldn't know. We happen to have a number. I don't even mind saying it now publicly. It's 321 hatsair, h a t z a i r, 321 like a countdown, so that's why um somebody in our organization uh you know, picked this really cool number, 321 hatsair. I like it. So, you know, you can reach the other organizations can reach us 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Our volunteer case managers, you know, in shul hide their phone and and will will go and and miss a kiddush and and and take care of whatever comes their way. But we get the overwhelming majority of our business. It's not really business, right? Cuz every hour we fly costs us money. We don't make Your cases that come your way. Requests for help. The overwhelming majority of our cases for help or requests for help come from other Hatzolah organizations around the world. So, in your case, if somebody if you heard it and you you were on a Hatzolah chat and somebody says, "Who's up at 4:00 in the morning?" and they say, "Help. My baby just drowned while we were on vacation in Costa Rica." Somebody would say, "You know, I'm going to get to my coordinator who has a relationship with Hatzolah Air and we'll get a plane out. Don't worry." Right? So, I would say greater than 90% of the requests that come into Hatzolah Air come from other organizations. Hatzolah being the overwhelming majority of that bucket. But we also get from Refuah type organizations, from Chabad houses, from shuls where a rav will call us or from other types of organizations like a chaverim or like a any Jewish rescue or relief organization that is now exposed to a certain tzara that cannot be handled locally. If it can be handled locally, it's not for Hatzolah Air. You put on a bus. You put on a bus or or an ambulance. I mean, either one, a bus or an ambulance. You know, we we couldn't let that opportunity slide to to not remind you. Actually, I heard a story recently of a guy who was handed a patient and told to put him on a bus and he took him to a bus stop. I heard that same story. It's funny. Where'd you hear it? I I wish I was here all day. So, that's that's that's that's that journey, though. Let's go back there. So, you're fueling up cuz I I want to understand the mechanics of how it works. When you get there, you're working with another organization, you're on a search. How do you not get lost yourself? How does How does that whole process work? It sounds like Hatzolah and chaverim kind of collaborated on this project. So, so this was a great collaboration of it, but um I think it's important for you to to realize that it's not just an airplane that launches. For example, we live because of our volunteers and we exist because of our volunteers, right? So, we have people that all they do is flight plan. Which means when we're going, let's say, across the world, we're going into a uh to to rescue a child who drowned in another country, you can't just pick up and fly there. You need to get the passports. You need to get CBP approval on the outbound. You need to work with customs on the inbound. You need to file a flight plan and get that flight plan approved. You need If we're going to go south, you fly over Cuba, you need an overflight permit. What Who's doing all this at 3:00 in the morning? You know who's doing it? Incredible volunteers who get up and one person's job is just to take care of the international flight plan. We have an army of incredible ladies that they do case management. Now, case management might sound to you, "Oh, what time do you want to fly?" But do you have any idea what goes into case management of Hatzolah Air? First, they take a team of doctors under the leadership of Dr. Avishai Newman, who's our medical director. He's a personal friend of mine. He's probably almost as crazy as me in many different ways. And he works together with Dr. Michael Brusco, who we spoke about before, who's the chief of cardiology, electrophysiology at Einstein and Jacobi. And the two of them have a team of doctors that evaluate every case. And they say, "Listen, here you need a respiratory therapist." And we have a team of voluntary respiratory therapists. Here you need a pediatric specialist to be able to go and take a PD pod. Well, now we have a second team that is you know, all our service units that prep the plane for the mission. You can't just send a plane. You've got to have the right pilots. You've got to have the right flight planning. You've got to have the right preflight preplanning. You've got to have the right ground support on both ends. We can't fly someplace if our plane, let's say, the Citation 10 behind me has a 6-hour range. Well, what if we're going someplace that's 5 hours and 20 minutes away? We can get there. But if there's no fuel in the field that we have to know about in advance, so somebody has to call and make those arrangements, what's the point of flying there if we can't leave there? Right? Then we need to prep the plane. Yes, there's fuel for the plane to fly, but there needs to be ice, there needs to be food for the for the pilots and for the medics, and and often times, like yesterday, we took food which turned out we didn't need it cuz there was a Chabad in Flagstaff, but we didn't know that. When we go out on a mission, we have to prepare for every eventuality. So, there's so many things that go in. The case managers, they connect our medical directors, our doctors, with the doctor at a hospital or facility. They then figure out what equipment do we need. They then worry about the ground ambulances. Yes, we're part of this network that we just spoke about. Well, it's a beautiful network because when we're transporting somebody from Miami to Houston, well, then the Hatzalah South Florida guys will often send an ambulance. Houston Hatzalah will call them and they'll pick them up, and a Hatzalah airplane flies between them in the middle. How amazing is that? How many people flew to Arizona in this instance? Between Chaverim, between Hatzalah, how many individuals were part of this that flew? So, on the airplane, we had 17 people. Wow. On this airplane, we had between we had two pilots, and we had 15 others between Hatzalah Air members and Chaverim members. So, the way it works is there's 14 seats for conventional seats that are in the back. When we take out a stretcher, every two seats we can take out and put a stretcher in place. And then there are four crew seats. So, between us, we had between Chaverim and Hatzalah Air, we had 17 people that went there. Was it an actual person that found this boy, or was it first one of the drones that kind of located him? I'm so proud to tell you that it was two of the guys that we flew. It was Chaverim members that they flew. Now, we get a lot of intelligence because the drones go up in the sky. They had the best drones that money can buy. You know, Jews, well, we'll just buy the best. Only the best. Only the best. You know, somebody called me up just yesterday and said, "Eli, I need the best doctor in the world for this condition." I said, "If I can get you the second best doctor in the entire world, is that good enough for you?" He goes, "No. No. Only the best." Now, the second best doctor is just as good as the best doctor with a little less marketing. That's all. Yeah, the brand. It's all about branding. It's all about branding. So, but but we need the best. Well, anyway, they came with the best three levels of drones, the little ones that can go in tunnels cuz this kid was in a in like a a cave tunnel type area. The ones that have this thermal where they can zoom in 300x. Now, 299x would not be good enough for Hatzalah. 300 times. I actually saw with my own eyes the capabilities, and I was blown away, and I'm not easily impressed. The drone equipment that these guys had was incredible. Wow. And so, then they take a lot of that data, and then they go and they share it with the team. I don't exactly know whether this particular time, and I'm also not here to talk about this particular rescue, you know, in the in the more minor type detailed in environment, but I will tell you that on that airplane that sits behind you, two of the volunteers that came who gave up their night, less than 2 hours after we started the search, and it was done very, very, very professionally with grids, with defined environments. Everybody had their roles and responsibility, communications and logistics and search and drones and and just it was almost like watching a good philharmonic go. You don't have 12 guys on the drums. You've got one guy on the drums. You don't need that. And everybody has their role, and I'm proud of us as a community. I'm proud of us as a nation. I'm also proud that we're not just guys who go, we're professionals. We don't always look as cool as the others, but these guys were just as good as anyone, and and it brings me tremendous pride to be part of this whole rescue system that we're delighted to do. You know, somebody called up the other day and was complaining about Hatzalah guys, "Oh, they just love to go lights and sirens in the middle of the night." I said, "You know what? Thank God they do, or they would stay in bed." Let them love what they do. They need the passion. You can never do anything well on a professional level if you're not passionate about If you're missing that passion, you will never get an elite level. It's impossible. You know, I'm going to tell you a little secret, which I hope none of my employees hear. We always do better with volunteers than employees. You know why? Only recently I've started working this out. Employees will always look, "When is my day over today? When is my week over? When are my vacation days starting?" No matter how good they are. When you're an employee, it's transactional. You're you're always looking 40 hours, they're paying me this much. You know, I've already put in 44 hours, they're not going to appreciate the extra 4 hours. Oh, they do, but still, now I'm giving it A volunteer never stops. You watch what happens. I speak to a lot of pilots, and I say, "Would you want to volunteer on Hatzalah Air?" Guys who don't know what we do. They say, "Are you kidding me? I fly X amount of hours. When I'm done on my days off, the last thing I want to think about is flying." Now, think and communicate with any guy that you know that works in an EMS system. I'm sure you know somebody who works for FDNY or somebody who works for any ambulance company. He will, when he's working that 8-hour or 10-hour or 12-hour or even that double shift, 16 hours, they're looking at the clock, "When is my shift over?" Guaranteed. Cuz after doing this day after day after day, no matter how much adrenaline you have as a paramedic or firefighter or or or an EMT, you want that shift to over. Look at the guys who are also Hatzalah volunteers. When they are on the way home from that 16-hour shift, they will take a one Hatzalah call and a second, then if a baby's not breathing, they'll do it. Why? Cuz there's this magic in volunteerism. Yeah. So, we have some employees that I love, and I tell them, "Listen, I'm hiring you as a volunteer. Mhm. I want you only as a volunteer on Hatzalah. Now, I don't want you to take a job elsewhere. So, I'm going to give you X amount of dollars, but you're not an employee on Hatzalah. You're getting paid because you need to you need to eat. You need to pay your rent. You need to be able to, you know, look after your expenses, but I want the volunteer spirit. Cuz when you have a guy who's a volunteer, they crush it every time. imagine. Uh Eli, I have a question. So, I happen to have a family member, close family member, who went through a traumatic situation, and they had to be transferred from New York, and they went to Cleveland, Cleveland Clinic. And they were connected to every kind of machine at the time, ECMO machine and the works. So, transferring a patient like that is a tall order. And I remember that we got him transferred with critical care doctors that had to be present on the plane. It was a huge ordeal. I know you were telling me of everything that has to go into it. So, I've seen it. I saw it firsthand. It's Forget about everything that goes into it, the expense, the money that it costs is exorbitant. It's an astronomical amount. Just fueling a plane with passengers is very expensive, but having to have all the equipment and the right individuals, if you're paying for it, a lot, a lot of money. So, I think you mentioned before you did like about 1,600 trips or something like that. I mean, this is costing a fortune of money every trip that you do. And I imagine that these are individuals that are regular people, and a lot of them don't have the money at all to help fund it. I imagine they don't get an invoice from you after the fact, right? You don't bill them out after the fact. Is everything here covered entirely by outside donations and by fundraising? Is there anything that's supplemented by the government somehow? Do you get any grants? Like, is this entirely just by the communities and by your hard work and going out and spreading the message? Like, this a lot of money. How do you navigate that? It always comes down to the money, huh? It's always the money. Everything in the world goes around and around about the money. The almighty dollar. So, I'll tell you. We take no grants. We get $0 from the government. Absolutely zero. Before we get into how we fund, I'm going to redirect the conversation for a minute onto what type of trips we fly, what type of requests we say yes to, what type of requests we say no to, and what type of requests we're challenged with, okay? We can divide everything that we get into five units, okay? The the five little 20%s, right? So, the 20% that are an absolute dire emergency, that we don't even go through an underwriting process. So, if Williamsburg Hatzalah calls us up and says, "Listen, there's a 27-year-old lady in our community who's been waiting number one on the list for a heart in Einstein and NYU and Columbia and Montefiore, and we just got a phone call from Chicago that they have a perfect match of that heart, and this lady's dying. She may never get it, but we have a 4-hour window to get there. Let's go." And that's at 5:30 in the morning. You know what's going to happen? Our dispatchers are going to say, "Boom, we have a hot, you know, request, and we're just going to go. No questions asked. No dollars shared, discussed. Nobody pays. Hatzalah Air will take care of 100% of that. We'll wake up our on-call pilots, and we have always one team that's on call 24 hours a day. We'll wake up our our top paramedics, doctors. We'll figure it out super, super, super quickly. The example that I just gave you actually happened with an actual lady with a bunch of kids. I think she was under 30 years old from Williamsburg Hatzolah. We got the call early morning and we flew her from Westchester Airport to Chicago and she lived she got a heart and we saved her life for free. That was an actual case. Wow. So, we have the I'm going to call them the easy 20%. It's a real emergency, no questions asked. One of our whoever's either picking up the phone or getting the call, it might go to Dr. Newman, it might come to me straight, it might come to our hotline, it might come online. Those those are no-brainer type flights that we do. That's 20% of our flights. Or 10 to 20%. It's not a it's not a defined number, right? But it's the no-brainer yes. Then we get 10 to 20% that are no-brainer no's. Okay? And we've had some really funny examples. Let's before we get into the example, let's compare it to a ground ambulance. You're all familiar with Hatzolah, right? And what Hatzolah does you've even saved a life right by by putting a kid on a bus someplace when you were younger, right? Thank you. Thank It's okay. I've been I've been taking it all my life. One more year and then we'll stop. So, from a practical standpoint, right? If you think about a Hatzolah ambulance, somebody gets hit by a car on Ocean Parkway, the ambulance comes. They don't care you're old, you're young, you're rich, you're poor, you're Jewish, you're not. It doesn't matter what your demographics are. That's a no-brainer. You're splattered across Ocean Parkway, right? And you were just hit head-on at 75 miles an hour, Hatzolah will pick you up and they'll do whatever they can. We're in agreement? Yes. Let's take the other side of that. Somebody calls up 2301000, the main Hatzolah phone number, and says, "Listen, it's erev Sukkos. I'm at Home Depot. I just picked up a sukka to be able to take home. I cannot fit it into my new Lexus. It just doesn't fit. I thought maybe I'd be able to strap it and hold it, but I can't fit it in that. You're a community organization. If you don't mind, it's only 2.1 miles down the road. Of course, if you have an emergency, just leave my sukka on the side of the road. But you're a community organization, do you mind taking my sukka from Home Depot and bringing it to my house and I give $180 a year anyway to Hatzolah, so it's I'm I'm part of it. Can you ask your volunteers to do it? Shame on that person. Okay. But there are people that do think that way. And Hatzolah has to explain to them, "Sorry, you're in that 20% guaranteed no. Your Hatzolah ambulances will not." So, now we've defined that. Of the 60% in the middle, they typically fall in where the person themselves believes that their situation may warrant an ambulance. But Hatzolah in Flatbush or Hatzolah in Crown Heights or Hatzolah in Mexico or Chicago or LA or South Africa may not agree. Let's give an example. What if this person who we transported 3 months ago for being hit by a car now needs to be moved from Maimonides Hospital to NYU? And they call Hatzolah, they say, "Can we move them?" Or let's make it a little less extreme. They want to now go home from Maimonides Hospital home. And they can't go by car cuz they're still in traction, but they want to go home. Do you think Hatzolah would take them? Yes, I know. If they can't afford it and how how else do they get home? Do you Okay, that's your answer and you're What's your answer? I mean, I It's not Hatzolah. It's not an emergency. Okay. I agree. But if it's not Hatzolah, who is it? How do they get home? They would a commercial service. They can they can hire for They can hire a paid service to be able to go and do this. What if they can't hire a paid service? They can then the ambulance then the hospital will figure out, social workers will figure it out. It's not the function of Hatzolah. Now, I want you to understand what Hatzolah is. Hatzolah are volunteer is made up of a collection of volunteers who shut their businesses. Okay? If you have a pizza store, and you you know, you guys are spoiled. You're from New York and Monsey, there's hundreds and hundreds of Hatzolah members. But you could very well be in a community that only has six members and three of them are away and and and one of them has a wedding tonight and the other one Well, you're the only guy. Well, if you hear a kid choking and you have a store, you will actually lock the store during the day. Now, you do that to save a life. You don't do that because somebody needs a ride home from the hospital 3 months later. So, this whole gray area, but to the lady who has only one child with no money whose husband died 2 years ago and she needs to get her kid home, she calls Hatzolah and says, "I need an ambulance." And they're like, "We don't do it." And she's like, "What do you mean you don't do it?" So, there's a certain education process. So, just to get to where we're up to. We have the guaranteed yeses, the very easy. We have the guaranteed no's, they're very easy. And then we have the middle bucket. Bucket B. Bucket B is somebody had a stroke in Florida. It's February. The kids go down every week, another kid takes a turn. Now it's March and they're tired of going down every week. They want to be home. And now it's April and Pesach is coming and nobody's interested in being down in Florida anymore. It's starting to to get nicer up back in the Northeast and they want us to bring grandma home. Now, they don't know where to go and what to do because grandma's living with an aide in their apartment and they really don't need an ambulance. Then our doctors do an underwriting of the request and some of them fall into, "Oh, wait, this is really an emergency because this lady really needs care that she's not getting. Okay, we'll fly them for free." Some of them we realize, "No, they just want a a vacation, you know, with their with their children." They can advance So, that's I that falls into bucket C. Many that are in the middle bucket, we allow them to use our aircraft, but instead of us looking for sponsorship like we do in bucket A, where we pay everything, to any emergency they're free, we say to them, "Yes, you can use the airplane, but you're going to need to pay the expenses of the aircraft." And then they'll No markup? There's no profit being made? It's purely the cost? We don't mark up. This is not a business for Hatzolah. Anybody that needs it, even somebody that has money to pay? We don't. If they have money to pay, they should give a they should give a donation. And we like to call it paying it forward. Unfortunately, most people don't understand that concept. And let me let me just ask you this. If I borrow your car, What type of car do you drive? Come on, it's public Electric. I drive an I drive an electric public TV. What type of electric car An electric BMW. Okay. If I Oh, you know what? It's a really bad example, electric. I don't like that. What type of car do you drive? I never give out my car. But I I drive an Infiniti QX50. I've I've taken your car many times. Not not that car. I have a car that I give out. That's my car, but I don't Yeah, yeah. That's my car for you. He You know what? You're going to make You're going to make an exception for somebody one day. Let's say you lend your car. Of course. Of course. You have a You have a I lent him my Mustang unfortunately and the clutch came back completely burnt out. My kids call that flex. We're going to talk about this later. My my kids shocked that you're actually blaming me. Yeah, it's okay. Because that We never gave you the bill. That clutch has been used and abused. And I was actually upset that you gave me a car that had the clutch so bad and was ruined. I gave you my $1,000 paid for it." I was like struggling on the highway. I couldn't I couldn't move that thing. Well, he had no struggle with that clutch before I bought it, by the way. I bought Trust me, that car has seen better days. So, let's say you lend your car to somebody. You just put $100 of gas in your car. Yeah. Okay? You lend your car to somebody and he comes back and he's very appreciative cuz he really needed to take his kid to the hospital. It doesn't matter what it was. And he comes back and as he's giving back the car, he says, "You know what? I feel really bad. I meant to fill up gas, but I didn't. But here's $50 to fill up gas." Now, you legitimately put $100 cash in your car to fill it up at 4:00 yesterday afternoon. You got it back empty, so you know it's $100 and he now hands you $50 of cash. Did he give you back your car? Yes. Did he pay you for your car, yes or no? He gave you $50 cash. He didn't give you enough. No, I'm asking you specifically on your car. He gives you back your car? I would say thank you. And he gives you 50 Let's say he gives you $100. Yeah. Is he paying you for the use of your car, yes or no? Of course not. I would say no. I would honestly because he's just paying for the gas. He's he's not Or or less than the full gas, but in his mind Yeah, in his mind he's doing me a favor. This is the crazy thing. In his mind, he's not only returned your car without a dent on it. Right. He's proud. He has actually given you something. He's given you $50. Now, he's used $100 of gas, but he's given you 50 or 60 or even $100. So, in his mind, you are up $50. Excellent point, by the way. Okay. Cuz now I owe him something. I I don't know, but in his mind, not only did he return your car and he looked after it and he kept it clean. Yeah. But he gave you $50. Yeah. When we fly and if you were to charter a G550 in the market, you would spend a minimum of 8 or 10,000 dollars an hour or maybe 12 or 15 depending on the type, the routing and the and the flavor, if you would, right? Yet our cost is substantially less than 10,000. So, our cost may be only 5,000 or half, right? If we would fly for 2 hours and we would spend 10,000 dollars to go to Cleveland and back and somebody would give us $10,000 for that. In their mind, they think they've given $10,000. They just do. So, if you ask, you know, how does that play out? The answer is people should realize that the beauty of Hatzolah Air and the expense and the costs for these airplanes many times $100,000 or more per plane per month between pilots, hangar, insurance, training, maintenance, subscriptions, all the expenses for what you see here if these planes never fly. What I think the godless of Hatzolah Air is to be able to rescue someone's life 24 hours a day. The actual cost of the flight, that's nothing. You're flying there, you're paying whether some guy who donated money to. But, look at the operation that we have to be able to get to that. So, we really need the public to recognize that. It's a little bit hurtful, but then, on the other hand, it's 10,000 more than we would have had. But, we certainly didn't make when we spent 18,000 and somebody gave 10, we don't make money in Hatzolah Air. We don't get paid. We use the dollars that go in and we need it. I happen to love the fact that people, even today, say, "What can I do for Hatzolah Air?" We have a big law firm that called us up recently and they said, "A really impressive Manhattan global law firm." They said, "We'd like to do pro bono work for Hatzolah Air." It was lovely. Wow. We started at zero and they're helping us. You know, speaking of of amazing firms that help out, one of the things that connected to us today was Abigail Eisenstadt and AE Design Group. This is someone who gives their time and their creativity in helping you design what you're doing here. And so, I wanted to give her and her team a shout out because we really appreciate everything that she and her organization and her husband has done for Hatzolah Air and for the cloud. So, I just wanted to make a quick mention of that. what? I'm I'm really happy you you highlighted Abigail and her team. I will tell you that not only did Abigail and her team help design the everything you see, everything you see here, but they did they our hangar in Sullivan County. And on a personal level, in that family, the Eisenstadt family, her husband, Reb Akiva, he does so much for Hatzolah Air. Her sister-in-law, Nechama Eisenstadt, is a case manager, special projects coordinator. And Abigail herself has done so much more than just design. These are examples of people who literally go and involve themselves in case management, involve themselves in hiring and procurement and and design of the organizational design, not just the physical building design. And my hats are off to to them and so many other volunteers like them who literally wake up in the morning and say, "How can I make the world a better place every single day?" Ellie, first of all, I totally echo your sentiments, but I have to say this. I'm sorry. This is going to sound probably you're not going to receive this well, but I'm a horrible person. I'm a really, really bad I'm embarrassed. I'm ashamed. I'm just hearing everything that's going on and what people do, I feel less than, I feel unworthy, and I'm ashamed that I should do more and I should do more. My question is, people like me, there's a lot of people that, you know, we just we just go about our lives. We try to do good. I I don't want to totally, you know, diminish myself. I try to do a little bit here and a little bit there. What can an average guy, a regular guy like me, what can we do for an organization like Hatzolah Air or Hatzolah or any other like what can we all do? There's thousands, hundreds of thousands of us, from Jews all over the place. And if everybody chipped in even a little bit, if everybody gave a dime, everybody gave a quarter, we always say it adds up. What can each of us do in our own small way that will make a difference in an organization like yours? So, you know, my father started Hatzolah in Queens in 1977 when we came. I'm I'm English. I have a British passport. And um You don't have an English accent. He just showed it to you. British passport. I say one word with an English accent, right? So, my father, when he started Hatzolah in Queens, people used to come over to him with ideas all day long. A lot of times the members, "Oh, Mr. Roe, you should do this." "Oh, Mr. Roe, you should do that." And he used to say, "If you're coming with a good idea, you're going to have to implement that good idea." All right? We and any other tzedakah organization around the world really relies on so many more things than just that vertical that they're in. So, if you think to your Tomchei Shabbos organization, it's not just you need food to give out to Tomchei Shabbos, but you need drivers, and you need people that communicate, and you need outreach, and you need money, and you need the people to create the logistics and the schedules. There's just accounting and law and and the legal component. There's just so much that goes into it. Hatzolah Air has many, many, many different things. I'm going to think of a recent example. The brochure that you have in front of you. Okay? Take a look at that. It's a brochure. We knew that we needed a brochure. We went for 5 years without a brochure. So, we posted on a chat called the BAM chat. Have you even heard of it? No. I don't know what it is. Michael. No, I don't know. One of one of uh one of our um incredible volunteers posted on this chat, which supposedly has a few hundred professionals in different walks of life, saying, "We are looking for a volunteer graphics designer." Now, we were using somebody else and we were being charged and there were various different uh challenges. And this girl, her name is Rosie, young married mom, she called up, she said, "Nothing would make me happier." Now, she does this all day. You would think that the last thing in the world she wants to do is graphics design and layout. time. On her spare time. And in the meantime, this is a story of maybe 4 months ago or 5 months ago. I can't tell you how every day she sends us a note, "I'm going to have 45 minutes during lunch and tonight after 11:00 if anybody's up, I'm going to have an hour and Sunday morning from 8:00 a.m." And she has done this brochure, she does all our invitations. find these people? How they're all just walking amongst us? Like, you know, what have you done lately? What have we done? That's unbelievable. They're regular people. I'm like I'm blown away that there's and there's thousands and thousands of these stories. You probably have just You come across a story like this every day. You meet people like The theme of today's conversation, the more I think about it, is ordinary people doing extraordinary things. Because if you're an extra if you're an Einstein and you can come up with some sort of fantastic mathematical calculation, I'm not impressed. But, if you're just a regular Joe and you can do something extraordinary, Hatzolah Air is made up of regular Joes who just are proud to do extraordinary things. And And the answer to your question is Hatzolah Air, just this today I was talking to multiple people who said, "What can I do?" I showed them our little supply bucket. And I said, "Listen, over here we have every single day we have to put peanuts on the airplane and we have to go and do this." I called a guy, Moishe Ratner. Do you know Moishe Ratner is? I don't. He's one of the owners of Gourmet Glatt. You heard of Gourmet Glatt? Yes. Yes. That was my So, so I have this little I I invited him just before the show started to come on and and I said, "Come see the hangar." Now, secretly, I'm not giving like tours of the hangar. I want to show him that every day we go through some soda cans and we go through some Kleenex tissues and we go through some Bounty, you know, paper towels and we go through some peanuts and some other things. I want him that the month of July will be Gourmet Glatt month that Gourmet Glatt is going to sponsor July's all our food. And August. I bet you if I'm successful in my pitch to him that we're going to end up having places, supermarkets, Pomegranate or or Landau's are going to be angry if we don't give them a month because that's how we roll, right? Now, I have no idea, by the way. He might tell me to jump on my head on Sunday, you know, in in sequel two, we can see. But, but I I invited him and he's going to come and instead of us using dollars that were given, let's use the resources that he has to give us, you know, every single time we do a flight. Sushi is a very common thing. The pilots, the medics, they all like sushi. We spend hundreds of dollars. Why can a sushi store not say, "Hey, you know what? For the whole July, any flight you have, we're going to do sushi." And I will tell you even nicer, last night when we came back from Arizona, and I wish I had their name now because I just I would love to give them a shout out. When we came in in the hangar, there was sushi, there was meat, chicken, all different types of food that was out there. I'm going to think what what the what the name was. It was all there and they on their own I love when people take initiative. It's one thing to be able to give, it's another thing to be able to to creatively say I want Oh, you know what? It was Flame. The store The store Flame, restaurant Flame. They on their own said, "I want to bring for the Hatzolah Air guys and the Chaverim guys." And we got off the plane expecting to be all tired and we all sat and it was just unbelievable at the debrief we had that. I will tell you, this helicopter that you're looking at over here is our first helicopter in the Northeast. We expect to have many more. We've been approached by some other Hatzolah organizations already to to be able to to put it in there in into, you know, as an additional service to be offered in their communities. But, we got a phone call from an insurance company. Jewish guy who runs it and he said, "Hey, I'd like to give Hatzolah Air a a helicopter." And I said, "Let me tell you all about Hatzolah Air." Like I you know I got all excited and he said, "Maybe you don't understand. We're an insurance company. We do underwriting. We know everything about you. We got a new helicopter. We'd like to offer you our old one." And it was so nice. So, we need so much for an organization like ours to run. We need people that writers. We need grant writers. Somebody said to me today, "Hey, you know you know what Hatzolah Air really needs? Hatzolah Air really needs that tens of thousands of people give $18 a month to Hatzolah Air. Could you imagine if you had 100,000 people giving $18 a month? You know, I looked at the guy and said, "Great idea. Implement it for Hatzolah Air." Do you really think a pilot needs to implement this program? Do you think you need to be an anesthesiologist to run this? You have a great idea. Implement it. And let's see in a year from now, did you just mind your own business and continue and you didn't do it? Or we have 78,000 people giving Hatzolah Air $18 a month. Wow. So, it's things like that. There's cleaning. There's worried about logistics. There's supplies. There's bookkeeping. I mean, anything that anybody does. There is not a single listener today that cannot contribute to Hatzolah Air in in the way that they can in their ordinary day of life. Not insurance. gives them a hand even if it's a morsel, even if it's just a tiny fraction in saving someone's life. They're a part of it. If they have any affiliation, by association, right? We believe save one man, save the universe. How how good is that plane behind you without air in its tires? I imagine not very good. Exactly. Do you think you need to be a pilot to put the air in the tires? You're right. I imagine not. Eli, I think that you brought up a tremendous point in answering Wishy's question, which is what can we do? And what I'm taking out of that is that we each have extraordinary uh potential in each one of us. And it could be from as little as being a case manager volunteer to filling up air in a tire, to giving peanuts or sushi when needed. And uh this was an amazing time. We're going to have to wrap it up because uh Shabbos is coming soon. And um I just want to ask that you know, I I just want to ask you for a bracha. That's really what I want to ask you for. And I know you're going to take it as, "Nah, who am I?" And what I you know, just When I when I ask someone, you know, I I call people rabbis all the time. I'm like, "Hey rabbi, come over here." And people turn around and say, "Why you call me a rabbi for?" My answer to them, Rabbi Eli Roe, is that when I learn something from someone, I personally like to call them a rabbi. And I know that you're an ordinary person doing extraordinary things. I'll accept that. But when you're amongst someone so extraordinary like you, a blessing that comes from you to me is worth tremendous. So, I would like to wrap this up with a blessing from you. So, you know, I've said this before publicly. It's no longer a secret. The secret's out, but I'll repeat it anyway. Every single morning I have a routine where wherever I am in the world, I go to the nearest window when I wake up before I go to the bathroom and before I check my WhatsApps and it's just something I do every single morning. And I do it sometimes during the day when I get in trouble, but but I do it every morning. I look up whether I'm in a place that's full of snow and I can't see the sky or uh a place that's full of clouds, what we call instrument meteorological conditions, IMC, and I can't see the sky. But every morning, it's the same routine. I say, "Hashem, there are only two people in this world, givers and takers. I beg you, let me be a giver." My blessing to you is exactly that. Hashem should allow you to be a giver your whole life. And when you have the opportunity, don't look away. Run to it and say, "Thank you, Hashem, for letting me be a giver today." Thank you for that. And thank you for being a masterful giver um for everyone around us uh connecting all the dots up from the sky. It's just such a beautiful thing to see it in person. This was an amazing experience. Please don't forget everybody to like, follow, and subscribe to None of Your Business podcast. This was an amazing episode. I can't wait to come back for more because I feel like this is not just a message well received once. It's something that has to continue because we're all on the journey of growing. We're all on the journey of giving. We're all on the journey of learning. And it's something that we did a lot here today, and I really respect the hell out of you, my friend, and so much that you do for Klal that is known and unknown. And I just want to leave off with giving you that blessing again. Whatever you wish me, I wish you double. I love you, brother. Thank you very, very much for this opportunity. Shabbat shalom.