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Orchos Chaim of the Rosh #17-18 Don't Go To Discretionary Meals, Don't Speak For Naught
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okay good afternoon everyone from
alaikam
welcome to the uh
archos time of the rush
so we're continuing in
do not
dine at a discretionary sudha do not sit
at a sudha which is not a sudha mitzvah
you're going to
obviously it means you're allowed to eat
three meals a day but if you want to
join with other people one should only
join with other people if it's a sudas
mitzvah
so this is a little bit questionable
because this implies that
this is a general
warning or advice that people in general
should not
participate at asus rashus but if you
look in the gemaram soccer def memphis
it says
not to eat attitudes for us not regular
people
so in reversal jyoti's commentary
he says
uh there's another gersa here in the
rash
shalom
don't eat with you know don't join very
rush of people in their meal and this
comes from what it says in period
and this is this would then be talking
about anybody
maybe not just
however
in the commentary on
the rush
girl
that the rush wrote archus
for himself
and according to this there's no
question yeah it's only for tamiya
but the rush didn't write it for me and
for you he wrote it for himself
and he is
this is a principle that the rash wanted
to personally abide by
one should not
have idle conversation
the gemara numa says vedibartabam
you have rashes to speak divide torah
not anything else
one's main conversation should be
torah
his primary conversation should be his
kavya sticker conversation should be
torah and it should not be arai
rava said somebody who speaks sikhs
i
believe i once saw from the khazrish
a shear
of how much is considered
a violation of this in terms of when a
person's uh
violating the mitsubishi
i believe i saw and i usually don't like
to do this but i can't tell you where it
is but i happen to see today
that they asked rebrand kenyawski we say
in zmirus of shabbos
found respite
on
shabbos they asked subhan where where is
that from who says the yoiner rested on
shabbos
and rubric says in tikuni zayar we we
find that the yoiner came back to yonah
the yoni came back to nyach friday
toward the end of the day
and he believes he once saw in a madrish
that he read the yarn arrested on
shabbos and he didn't remember where and
he never saw it again so if i if i may i
once saw from the kazoo niche the
definition of sichua taylor is more than
10 minutes
that's the threshold
but it's interesting the rambam and the
perishable missionaries
he says
what did shemoine the son of
gamlial say all my life he grew up among
the
and he didn't find anything better than
silence
he says there's five kind of speech
one is mitzvah
and that's tamatara one is aveira lashin
one is
disgusting
and that is conversation about something
that doesn't bring a person any tialis
like most
just uh chattering
what happened with this politician and
this
sports athlete that's most that's sicha
betela
that's what it means rav never spoke
sikha battela
one is something which is not a mitzvah
but it's beloved
for example to speak about the myla of
that's beloved
and then there's mutter
when it comes to bodily needs to take
care of things that you need to ser to
survive that's mother
and regarding this classification of
speech
mutter rav shrimagamil says
that koyama godalte
in other words the healthiest practice
is even to minimize
speech
speaking about sarche hagov
in fact the rambam says in
pershameshnayas
um
the rambam writes in
us paragraphs
a member of miller quoted this the
rambam
person should always produce a lot of
silence
silence is a positive
contribution
now
um
from here we see
that
conversation that's not let's talk
certainly a person should
minimize if not eliminate as we find the
gross says we learned this in the garage
hagra that all the mitzvahs and the
torah that a person amasses is not
enough to counteract
what he says the words that a person
emits that are not necessary
the quotes
and the whole kaffa keller is all for
dvaram battalion
and this is all for excessive chatter
certainly dvaram surim
and if goldberg points out that from
here we see that
even for a category of speech which is
not
outright asura there could still be oins
for and on the contrary even category of
speech which is not outright a mitzvah
which is only let's say ahov for example
praising khachma
and mido's toy voice that would also
warrant reward
now it's interesting because
the rush continues in this ice
he says the zohar lil might believe you
should be careful to learn at night
now what does not having idle
conversation have to do with learning at
night because usually what
takes away from a person's a time to be
able to learn at night is empty
conversation but you should be careful
to learn at night shayashin
devaytara
until a person falls asleep from
learning let me talk shikha taylor but
not falling asleep
from sichua batila in other words one
should go to sleep one should fall
asleep from torah and not from sikha
battela
in fact
the balaturim says
yaakov woke up not from his sleeper from
his learning because he learned torah
day and night so he only went to sleep
from learning that's what they showed
him in his dreams so his his sleep was
uh
was like learning
in fact
now writes in hakadoma to safra that's
niusa
that
the guru had a great alias nashoma every
night from the time he was aimed at
writes
of course he did
everything he did during the day was
learning torah thinking about learning
and in the night time they only show a
person from his thoughts during the day
and therefore there's a specific
um
hak pada that one should go to sleep
meet limara torah and not
some people they like to go to they turn
on the radio or worse or listen to
nonsense there's a special hak pada to
sleep from devrai torah in fact they
bring down from rabblaser gordon
bazanov tells that by adam marishan it
says
hashem kim tardema adam
that sleep is like a tardeda tardema
sleep brings a mou paula to a person
um
they once asked the brisker of why he
doesn't darwin vasequin and so riskarov
says because
he goes to sleep very late so they said
well you could go to sleep early and
learn early he says yeah but the problem
is you don't close the gemara
you have to fall asleep from learning
and uh until he does it's very late
now the the rush ends off that one
should dafga not go to sleep meet dvaram
battalion
so the question is isn't it enough to
say you should learn at night until you
fall asleep so that you sleep me talk to
why does he have to add valois
says
anyone who satisfies himself from
devaytara
in the night time and goes to sleep they
won't give him a basura surah ice
so from the rush it implies that
not only
is going to sleep from learning a myla
but there is a hakpada not to go to
sleep from dvaram battalion
in the
muslim
he says
that if you go if you learn and then you
sleep your sleep will be sweet
and your night time you will continue to
grow in learning
because everything is dependent on what
you did in close proximity
he brings from a rehearsal levenshtein
with golovkin
levenstein that if a person goes to
sleep he touched varana talem
so then that that process and that type
of
mindset will continue even in one's
sleep
okay rabbi sai
so now that you heard this year you
could go to sleep right now or you could
uh stay up a little bit
and uh remember to learn something right
before you go to sleep wishing everyone
a great day cult of
be well
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