Oorah Rebbetzins Roundtable with R' Michoel Sorotzkin - Match Made in Heaven

Okay. So, we're very very um honored to have Robbie Sask address us for our monthly get together and um just want to let you know exactly a little bit who he is. We're I just can't even believe that he agreed to do this because he's the most busy person that I know in the world helping the world and he's a very renowned speaker Rashiva. He helps many many many people. I'm not saying that you should not call him for advice, but he does give a lot of people advice about a lot of different things. He does a lot of medical referrals and and Shashiva and he's pretty much like he's a very very famous person. So, we're very happy that he's giving us a little bit of time to help us in our little organization here with he's made many many many hundreds of people have gone to the with his guidance. He's very close with a lot of the past. He has stories about from from Kanye, anybody who you've heard of, he was in their place discussing the shut up questions with them. So, we're really happy that you can help us a little bit out with our questions. Um, thank you very much for coming. Over the past 40 years, you had so many experiences. Can you share with us the most fascinating show story that you experience on the shin that you can see clearly how Hashem guides the Okay, good to everyone. Thank you so much for having me. And before I start, I would just like to say that in as much that we're going to do something constructive and we're going to say some diver tonight, I would like to dedicate tonight's session, a soldier, which I happen to know his family. His name is Alio Binyamin El Makayam who is a French boy who came to Isisro and he got engaged in Isisro and his wedding is due to be Sunday night tomorrow night. two weeks ago he was at Miluim to come to serve in Gaza and he of course his family told him you're getting married just postpone it you can get a official exemption from joining the army at this time of your marriage and he says [Music] and I will stay back and celebrate my marriage I'm going there and unfortunately he was killed last Friday at the war. Tomorrow night, Sunday night is his date. He will not be there. He'll watch from Ginsium. It's a very it's a phenomenal tragedy. But uh this is what life is all about. And I would like to dedicate and of elim bless memory with a and a hope that all the soldiers and all the should come back home. This is an introduction. Now switching around from basa o to bas hamish and coming to your most fascinating question about a fascinating story. There are many but you know you asked the question and what enters my mind is as follows. Some 27 years ago I had a family I live in Israel. When am I in Israel leaving Kiryati Telstone had a family who was in a very very deprived situation. Uh they had five children. The father was mentally unstable and his wife was diagnosed with cancer. Two of his children were not well, one mentally, one physically. and he was coming to me on a daily basis calling me and basically needed my undivided attention which unfortunately I was not in a position to give him around the clock. So he came to me on a Wednesday and he comes and he tells me I would just like to ask for a favor. He was not the only one during my long history. I may look younger than I am but I'm not. And he said, "I am going to commit suicide tomorrow and I would like to deposit my five children with you after my suicidal. You should look for their well-being and I'm basically coming to say goodbye to you." I told him, "What's the catch? Arsh once told me when somebody comes to threaten that he's going to commit suicide, you know, he's not doing it." But I asked him, "What's the c?" He says, "I need in order for me to procrastinate this master plan, I need 4 hours of your undivided attention. No phone calls, no shurim, no stopping over, just me and you. Could you give it to me? I'm willing to postpone." I said, "I'll give it to you." It was a summer day. And I said to him, you know, Friday, I don't say shim. Friday morning is a long Friday. to come nine o'clock in the morning after Davening, we'll go together to Natana to the beach and recording in progress and we are going to uh have an hour and a half on the way there, an hour and a half on the way back. We'll sit on the beach for an hour or two and I hope we can sort it out. Okay, he's all excited. He comes in Friday morning and we drive to Natana. To make a long story short, there's nothing to do with the shiddok. We go there. We sit on the yam. We took some beach chairs. We rented. We sat for two hours. And he's telling me his life story and what why really wants to commit suicide and this and that. As I walking, I said, "It's getting late. You know, it's like 1:00 in the afternoon. We got to go back to your shaleim and take some time." And you know, it's Friday afternoon. We said, "Let's wrap it up and we'll talk on the way back." And as I'm walking off the beach, there are two guys, elderly guy and a younger guy, playing pingpong, matkot, they call it in Israel, on the beach, you know, with a hard ball. And I'm standing walking on the side. And all of a sudden, the older man hit the ball in a way that it went, you know, I was I was pretty much to the side, but it hit me right over the eye. It hit me in such a way I fell on the floor and I felt like I'm fainting. I saw the stars. My whole face got bruised. This lifesaver came from the matsil. The lifesaver came. He brought some ice, some water. They put it on my thing. Anyhow, okay. After 10, 15 minutes. So, it's, you know, I got a boo boo and I'm going to go home. It's going to be fine. And the elderly man comes over to me. tells me you are bes with me. You are not I see you have on me. I said I don't have any on you. You played ball. It happens. It's fine. I'll be fine. I'll come home and two days I won't even know that I had it. Okay. He says, "The only way that you could prove to me that you're not I live here upstairs in Kiryatans right next to hospital. Come to my house and I'll give you some and a cup of coffee and we'll walk away as friends and you give a bro in the house and then I know I asked the guy with me." He said, "No problem. The guy's giving free cake and coffee. We going." Okay. We come to the house. We sit down and I say and this and that before I leave the house. He tells me we talk a few words in the other room. I said go ahead. Takes me to his room. He burst out crying. He says me and my wife didn't have children for nine years. We are Holocaust survivors. We couldn't have children. We had this daughter Estie. It's a lovely girl. She went to Bisakov. She was here in Kiryataz in atmosphere but she was a little bit more open-minded girl and she continued she studied she went to Barlan University she has MA and she cannot get a amongst the she's called modern orthodox they don't want to look at her among the modern they say she's from Natana from not here and not there she cannot get married you look to me like perhaps perhaps in the way you talk and you speak English and she speaks English and she wants an English speaking guy. Maybe you have an idea for her. I said, "Bring her across." You're sitting in the other room. She comes out this lovely girl, 29 years old. She's talking to me and she's telling me what she's doing, what she and five 10 minutes conversation. She made a very remarkable impression on me. And she said she wants really an American boy. she wants with a shama, but an open-minded guy that would let her continue with her career and go on and so on and so forth. Maybe you know somebody that said to be honest with you off the cuff I don't have anyone but you know who knows maybe one day something will come across. Okay, push fast forward. The guy didn't commit suicide. We got back home everything is fine and dandy. A year goes by. I get a phone call on Friday morning from one of my friend who's a role in he says I need a favor. I said what's the favor? He says I have this guy Balu. He's 31 32. He comes around to my colo this and that. He's going to St. Louis to his on Tuesday and it's Friday morning. In those days, people used to fly from mero like you know it was 8:30 in the morning TWAA flight going to America coming in like 1:00 in the afternoon but you know you're flying you're coming 7 hours earlier you still can make it in the summer people still used to take that flight he tells me you're sitting for 3 hours on the plane there's a mechanical problem they're not traveling today they're leaving an hour and 25 minutes after the if he comes back to your no way you're making it he has to make the flight. If he's coming to you, I live 20 minutes closer to the airport. He may be able to make his bags are checked in. He has to leave. The first three stars are out. He has to take a taxi. He run to the airport hopefully to make the flight. Could he come? I said, "Hey, there's another few guests, but he could come over." And to make a long story short, the boy comes over and he made a remarkable impression. I spoke Friday night at the one place he came. He asked, he has the right questions. Shabas I have a noishir comes to the novicary came to he made a remarkable impression then I asked him what are you looking for he tells me it's very hard I really want to live in there and I'm looking for girl with but I can't take a girl boom bing you know what is estie from a year ago maybe she's a sh for him I know nothing about the estie I have zero contact numbers he tells me but it's not going to happen now because I'm leaving. He tells me in this I'm leaving tonight and I'm going to America and I'm staying to I'll come after if it's I'll go out. I said to him, I heard once from when comes by, an opportunity comes by, it says in that even after you make a you finish up a said, you know, of an afternoon, everybody's fasting and not in the mood and how long do you have to wait? We're not talking about going to the Lakewood freezer for three months. We're talking about just being there for five, six hours and you're going to go. No, when the right time comes, you make the adlas. I said, "This is a window of opportunities." He tells me, I told him about the girl, the impression she made. He says, "I got to leave tonight." I said, "You know what? Here's the deal. Give me five minutes after the I'll try to find the girl. If I get you a date tonight, I get you tonight. I guarantee you you'll be Tuesday night in St. Louis. Olive Savari. I had a very good contact, one of the general manager. We'll get you on the plane tomorrow night. Don't worry." P. No. I says five minutes. And I didn't go to Davin May. I Davin May at home. I waited for the first minute and I said, "Where in the world I I don't know the family name. I don't know anything who, what, who, when, where." But I did know that she lived a block, 3/4 of a block away from Behim Liato. I called Beh. I called a head nurse. I said, "Give me one of the girls from the Sher Lumi that were working in the hospital. Give me one of the girls." I said, Okay, you go to the next street. I don't know the name of the street. The third house on the right on the fourth floor, the right door. I remember there's a blue mash. Knock on the door. Say, give my number. Say SOS. The father should call me. She said, I said, I don't know the name. Just go there right now. You got three minutes to deliver the good. This is like two minutes after this. She says, "You just go to the fourth floor there. Run over." And then she runs over and this guy tells me, "I'm leaving. I'm sorry. You know, it's a very nice try, but I'm leaving." And not only that, the taxi is already honking outside. I went outside. I took 10 shekele to the taxi driver. I said toot, "We're not using your services. I'm going to give you 10 shekele to dismiss you, but just wait five more minutes. The phone rings in my house. He says to you, "This is you. You're the guy." I said, "Yeah." I says, "Mst." I said, "Where is she?" She says, "She's in your car by somebody." So, you have a number for her? He says, "Yeah." So, you going to give it to me, but tell me. I said, "I don't have the time to talk to you. I'll talk to you later. Just give me the number." He gives me the number. Put down the phone. I pick up the call. And on the other line, Estee says, Can you remember me? Sure, I remember you. What are you doing tonight? He said, I can't we going to the going with friends for the pizza shop? I says, I have a date for you. He said, who's the guy we have to be? I said, you're not I made my due diligence over Shabas. I'm telling you, it's good for one date. I'm holding him off, taking him off an airplane that he has to go. Could you be ready? He says, give me an hour and a half and I'll be ready. I told the guy I went to the taxi. I paid him the teno, sent him off and the guys the guy says, "You better get me on the flight tomorrow night. I don't know why I'm doing this. I feel so uncomfortable. It took me so nicely the whole chabas. I'll go for it." Anyhow, to make a long story short, they went out. The guy I told him, "Call me after whenever whatever time it is." 3:00 in the morning, the phone rings. I just came back. Oh, she's such a marvelous girl. Said that I never in my life met such a girl. This is Mahashem yra. Never ever. Then he tells me, "We made another date for tomorrow, 1:00 in the afternoon. My flight is at 12:00 at night, so we can hap another date." I said, "Okay, no problem. Just let me know after the date. I can get you to get you on the seat." He goes in the afternoon and he calls me 7:00 in the evening. He says, "I'm cancing my American trip. I'm staying in Nancy." A week and a half later, two weeks later, they engaged Kasen Kala. I just participated in a bar mitzvah of their fourth child two years ago right before Corona three years ago. Masleto married. I went to shak I used to go a lot to the daily to consult and I asked him a question. I said like this. If I take one of my friends in the Bureau of Vital Statistics and I ask him, "What's the odds? It's Basher. What's the odds that this Mishugn is going to come to me, threatened, commit suicide? I'm going to go with him to Natala. This guy is going to hit the ball in my face. I'm going to get on the floor. He's going to tell me to go to his house." I went to his house. He's all of a sudden giving me a of a girl I haven't known from nowhere coming by very bizarre circumstances. A year later this guy is getting off a plane getting off a flight on a Friday morning to come to my house. He doesn't know me from Adams and the whole shabas I fall in love with the guy love at first sight and I'm able to track down the girl and make the he says is this what basher is all about? Could you please explain I've been there I've done that. I've been around the band. I've been a lot of shidim. But this is what it's all about. So told me as follows. He says he heard once from the was one of the greatest in the past century. Thousands of came to listen to his pearls of wisdom. He said as follows. is bum is going sitting on the and the is not moving. She sees the bum sees nothing. He says takes off the cataract from the eye there. The problem is that we have cataracts on the eye and we can't see those mal but the mal are flying around all over the place. He says who showed you was you think you're a he tells me how many did you make at that time I made like 70 I said you think something logistically makes sense this boy this girl check the background my humble opinion quote unquote this is match made in heaven but every you should know is a nine you think with your that this is what it's all about but it's One time took off the and you see the you say the very very improbable unheard of circumstances happened and this is the guy who married this girl right now we're going to have children and all because this took me off his rock to commit suicide and this TWWA plane never took off. See indeed it is we are not theim and we are never ever gonna know what's going to make this gave me such a phenomenal as I said I finished nearly I single-handedly made over close to 200 just under 200 probably another few hundred that came to me with the problems and I advised them and I escort and this nice gave me such a different vision such a different edge a different perspective as to how to look at you think this makes sense this doesn't make sense when the bash is all about basher I believe in it 100% and even when a no-brainer happens it is basher and even when the most bizarre and improbable happens it's also basher and when we dotadas we think oh I'm the greatest shot on earth oh I could sweet talk I could do could do that it's all merely We are doing ours in order for to do his and the more it's also you know say timing you put in the gear you put in the toil you put in the work you put in your sweating sometimes it's like you know you put so much time into it and a lot of times you know you work on a girl you work on a boy you could work on a boy you know you read him 40 she look this guy's never ever going to get married in his life it's But at the end of the day, the is going to be matso. Matso is something you find in the street. You just walk in, it's all of a sudden, boom, diamond rings on front of you and you find it. We have to do ours and does his. Of course, in our scale of priorities, in our ability to maneuver, we're not going to do something which looks to us, you know, totally outrageous. We're going to work with SEO. We have this and today we have all this technical support infrastructure which helps us to sift and to narrow the search and basically this and that and this and that. We think we the graceim we know oh that's that's going to go definitely we're going to make this shabaton and we're going to make this this and we're going to make this conference and we're going to get together and we're going to put them together. It's always a match made in heaven. We have to know it. Many times we think that we are we are super sophisticated and we are able to deliver the goods. But the truth of the matter you could come to such stories which is the improbable and the unbelievable happens reveals in front of your eyes and then you see how great I always tell people come to me with sorus. I say don't tell a kadesh how great yours are. Tell yours how great aes is. And I'm ready for your next question, Mrs. Harup. Rabbit Harup, I'm sorry if I Okay, thank you. Um, I wanted to know if you have an opinion about when it is a good idea to get somebody else involved in the sh that you're in the middle of doing, how if it could be helpful, it's not helpful, when it's helpful. And I know that you've gone to make it only. It's an excellent it's an excellent it's an excellent excellent question and I definitely believe that if tells us [Music] that if somebody has to come to someone sometimes it could be a godly could be a rabbi it could be a social worker could be an uncle could be another that maybe has a different twist Definitely not be ashamed and not be be there each one has to be there for the other. I know that sometimes a shhat feels like you know the is being taken away from me especially when he has to share with another and all of a sudden it's co-brokering the sh with someone else but the truth of the matter as we say by us in Latin ipso facto there's nothing to be ashamed and on the contrary if there is a need to have if you get stuck and you feel like somebody is going to help you you never ever lose from having anata from a friend anata from a rabbi and other rabbi and if it's meant to be have another person helping you assisting you if you get stuck there's nothing wrong with I want to tell you a story I'm talking about stories I had this boy nine years ago a 37year-old alter he went I he held a pinas he went out with 120 girls from the age of 21 he used to have a diary he used to write down every single girl one time two times when this he had a whole booklet of why he moved the computer. He had a program. It was very sophisticated. Any he couldn't find the shhat comes over and she tells him she has a perfect perfect sh and a girl excellent girl this. Anyhow, she says the problem is the girl is 31 and the girl said to her that she's masking to listen to only if the guy is under 33. If he's a day over 33, She says, "How old are you?" She says, "I'm 37 and a half." He says, "You know what? Let's tell the girl such a beautiful sh let's tell the girl you're 33 and this." And he says, "The people," he says, "I feel uncomfortable with it." He tells him, "Let me take care of it." Anyhow, she went to the girl. She told him, the girl told her, she kept she kept on going out with the guys two times, three times, five times. Anyhow, by the eighth and ninth time looks like was a like, you know, like they're really hitting it off with each other. The girl goes one night, she meets the she tells this is all when I say 33, I mean it. And if you're lying to me, I want to tell you something. And if I find 34, a day older than 33 that you told me, I'm going to break the shiv. And I'm darn serious about it. I'm going to break the sh. So I want you to tell me in yada put a hand on the heart and tell me behind that boy is not a deal. She says listen I got the information. I can only tell you what I read from the paper. Paper says 33 but you want I can reconfirm it again. And yeah thehat comes over and this and that. She talks to her friends. She said she'll get 10 times this and that. Just tala is 33 and that's it. She'll overcome. It's not a big deal. Not a problem. Anyhow, they go out 12 times, 13 times and the before the last time the the boy comes over to the sh says, "I just wanted you to tell find out if the girl is ready. I want to propose tonight." She said, she went to the girl. She says, "Are you ready?" Girl says, "Yeah, I'm actually 33. You promised me it looks fine. It looks right. It looks this, it looks that and this and this and that. And yeah, she tells the boy, "I just want to tell you, you know, before you're going to propose the night before, she says, I would like to tell you that this is the hurdle that we have. You know, we're going to have to overcome it." But I consulted with big shakan. They all told me, "Just keep your mouth shut. Buy her a nice ring. Send the beautiful flowers. as they say in the middle. She wants the ring. She doesn't want the boy. She's interested in going out with the just go ahead and he tells me I feel so bad about it and I I how could I lie? He tells me comes over to talk to me. I say you know what I'm going tomorrow at 1:00 in the afternoon. I have an appointment by barman was after the rash. used to go to. He looked like a fragile old unsophisticated man. He was one of the biggest pikim that I knew around. Anyhow, I told him, "Come with me to and tell your problem and your story and ask him before you go to propose tonight." He says, "I have a 6:30 date in Mal." I said, "No problem. We'll be done with is not going to give you more than three minutes." And I get a phone call from his brother who lives in Ramote. He says, and my parents are going to be your so nasty with me. tells me you're going to be the signer, the co-signer, the underwriter for their death certificate by you telling him such to go to I said listen I in my vast experience over decades if you take from you're not so let's go to he says You going up down to hell. He was disturbing guy. 37 never found a he's going 120 girl because a stupid girlish a couple of years later. So what? Who cares? They love each other. Let him just do it. Anyway, we walk into we come in and I start telling you know Yiddish. The boy didn't understand you. So I explain him the story. I told him to this. So closes his eyes. He takes he tells him he says what's your name? He says he says he says every single person has there's nobody without you can see there's somebody the girl the boy is clearus flawless. There always are. You have a big you're 37. A boy 37 is a big. So you want to add on to your is another of being a shakran. You have your already. What do you need another for? You have a you are 37 years old. You don't have to add on another. Stay with that you have and be truthful. He says let me tell you something. come tonight to the date. He tells him, "Do you have a ID card?" Like a like, you know, like a like a driver's license. He says, "Yeah." He pulls it out. He says, "Before you go to the Don't even start talking to her, before proposing, before anything, he says, "Rebi, I bought flowers. Just leave the flowers in the trunk of the car. You come there, you open your toad and tell her, I don't know what people told you. I don't know. We know each other for a couple months. I have no idea what you know, what you don't. But I want to reveal I know age is a very vital component in your list of demands and it's been I want you to see how old I am and thereafter we'll decide if we want to continue or not. He says rebi but what's going to be? He says you never lose for being truthful and I give you a bra. Come to tell me after it's a maz. Anyhow, the guy drives out. He calls up his brother and his brother calls me. He tells me, I don't want to repeat here the pearls of wisdom which I heard from the brother. He told me how he says you're killing the we know it. The girl has a sister-in-law is a friend with my wife's friend and she told her that if the guy 34 on a dead body, she would get divorced after she gets married if she hears she's so mugg about the age. Ain't happening. What are you doing? like what in the world are you doing to my brother? Anyhow, the bak is driving to the date. He calls me up from the shaking. He says says he says he's like tells me my whole body is shaking but I'm going to do it. And he walks into the date. He sits down in front of her. He says she pulls out his he shows it to her. Read it. I don't know what you know what you don't know. The girl looks at it. She says, "I want to tell you something." This international matchmaker, everybody goes to her for swore to me that you are not a day older than 33. Well, while we were going out, you were telling me some kind of stories. I made I came out that you must be at least 35. It's impossible because we spoke about history in this. I put one and one together and you're 35. I didn't know you may be older but at least 35. I mean you spilled the beans. You don't even know what you said but I know you're 35. And I said to myself as follows. It's enough. It's something to my core. or it goes into my I can't but if the boy will finish the shid and he knows my ultimatum of a day not older than 33 and he'll drive me come to propose to me without exposing his cards I'm going to say no when he proposes but if he's going to be truthful to me I know being truthful with your partner for life is much more vital and much more substant ancial than this ashanas of mine which means very much to me once he told me that and now I see you're 37 I'm willing to accept the flowers he went to the back of the car he took the flowers and they live happy ever after what I want to say with that you know it's a nice story but what I want to say with that I said that if the boy would have gone to shakanim and to his shak and and he would have gone to the girl let's just anal Analyze the story. All of us together, we all sitting together. Analyze the story. And if the boy would have gone, what would have been? The girl would have walked away. He's a shakra and he's a kas. There's no sh. Okay. His brother is threatening me. His father is making me a signer on the death certificate. Everybody's, you know, baron le told him the vort. You have a you already have your you don't need additional. You don't have to pat it with a cherry on top of the cream on top of the cake ofis. You have it as is. If that's the case, you see that the it's not a story about it's just to show you that sometimes you 100% with your own eyes, with your own vision, just don't tell them anything. It's a no-brainer. The girl is threatening and you're in love with each other. just you know and probably statistically if you would have lied it would have gone through with another girl but in this particular he wouldn't have because the girl said if you are going to be a liar I'm not marrying a liar I just want a truthful guy and this is what brought about so it's sometimes the for somebody above who has a total different vision is coming from a different dimension from a different aspect and that's what wraps up the sh yes the answer to your question is yes get assistance. Could it be a friend? Be another shotgun. Somebody is coming from not your state of mind. It could be a rabbi. It could be a social worker. It could be a psychologist. It could be anyone that could assist and help. And you never ever know what will be the final nail in the coffin of this or I don't want to call it a coffin. I'm saying it sarcastically. to kill the shock by thinking you smarter than the system or vice versa to have the shock working out. Thank you. Okay. Any anything else? We're getting late for one more for one more. One more. We'll do one more. One more question. Can you share an experience when you felt an Especially especially sense of satisfaction upon completing the Shabbat. My sense even though we know it's not you and not the but you still felt good about it. Okay. So Map I'll tell you a story with a family member of yours if you don't mind. It's a story that today it's being published already in some art school books but since I am the one who was the story happened with me so I will tell you the story your uncle I believe your uncle Rabbi Riseman is your uncle is that correct okay calls calls me some 22 years ago and uh He did not call me actually. Rabbi Foyer, your other uncle, Rabbi Von Foyer is your other uncle. He calls me. I'm sitting in my house. I was about to leave and he calls me up and he says, "I need a favor from you. I'm here with Rabbi Ryman's daughter. It's a girl. We have some special needs and she needs a shock. There's a few kids there one after the other and we need your help. Maybe you have an idea." I said, "How long are you staying in the country in Israel?" He says, "We're leaving tonight." That's it. You know, next time when you come to Israel, give me a call. It's lunch time and uh and uh 11. I'm sorry. I can't hear you. I'm I'm hearing someone else. Okay, I hear it. I hear it. Okay. In any event, so um he says to me, "Yeah, but if you know of someone, you know, it's really a big mitzvah and you're a cousin. We are somehow second cousins and this and that." And if you know anybody any to make a long story short, I drive out of my house. I come to the entrance to the Kirya where I live and this nice boy Moyio learns in the yeshiva there. Also a boy with some, you know, very unique nice boy. And he walks into my car. I give him a halam. I said, "What's American boy?" I said, "What's happening with you? Are you in?" He says, "You have to ask my mother." I said, "But you interested in the he says, "Here's my mother's phone number." Anyhow, I drop him off in your shim. I go to her phone. It was before the cell phones. I go to her pay phone. I put in anybody who was in Israel, the young women here, I don't know if anybody remembers the days you had this asimone, this token, you put into the phone and you make a phone call. And I give a phone call and I call Mushi's mother, Mrs. Beer. And I said, "Mrs. Beer, I just gave a right to Mush. She's such a lovely boy. You ate by me for Shabas. Are you into shid?" He says, "Yeah, but you know it's we need this special." I said, "You be, you know what? I don't know what who went, but just before I left the house, I got a phone from Rabbi Foyer about his niece. I don't know too much about her, but he told me, and it sounds like it's worth checking." He says, "Can I see the girl?" I said, "When are you really to see This is in an hour. I said, "Let me see if I can work." I took my second asimon. I called back Rabbi Foyer. Say, "Rabbi Foyer, we have a date. I want your you to come with your niece, actually your wife, Luba, to come with your niece and to see Mrs. Beer. She wants to see the girl." I said, "We're leaving tonight. We got to pick up." I said, "Listen, Rabbi, for you just called me two hours ago and I have this idea. could you please with all due respect go to see him by vagana gave him an address he says give us an hour she's coming with the girl any the girl said for two hours Mrs. beer calls me back. She says, "Rabbi Zatskin, this is exactly what Moi needs. Could we go we may set up a date for tonight?" I said, "Let me find out. They have tickets for tonight." I call Rabbi Foyer and I said to him, he says, "We got to go back." I said, "Let me speak to your wife." I speak to Luba. I said, "Luba, we have a this he's a lovely boy. I know the boy. You know, it's not an easy task. You know yourself. what kind of um case we're dealing with and if they willing to make a date, let's make a date. Just that girl never went out. The boss also never went out. Anyhow, they went out that night. Rabbi, Mrs. Forest stayed for another few days. They went out the next day and the next day, three consecutive dates. Well, this is a shid that really had supervised and made and the decision- making had to be but the adult deals by the parents by the people who escorted the young couple but they're both lovely young couple and we thought you know it may be a sh and I called Rabbi Foyer say he says call up Yo Yano is his brother-in-law Rabbi Risman call him up I said I haven't spoken to him for years he said call him up tell him the story I you know I said he doesn't he know anything about it he says my wife told the younger sister. She's the mother of the girl of the mother of the girl. That's Rabbi Saratkin read us some and this and that. But anyhow, I pick up the phone call and I get a answering machine. You have reached the offices of Rabbi Riseman. I says, "Younko, your daughter is unofficially engaged. Could you please contact me for further details?" I wanted to get his attention. 10 minutes later, the guy calls me forensically. He says, "What in the world are you talking about?" I said listen this and that and I told him the family name is Mishb tells Shiv and the nose and this and that. I said he's a lovely boy. I know the boy for two years. I don't know your daughter. I heard about her and this and that but I think it's you know this minimal courtesy should be bestowed upon the shik and you should come over. Say he says to me listen it's not happening. My wife is was due yesterday. She's supposed to have a baby. She was supposed to have a baby yesterday. I'm not leaving her now on the 10th month to go because you had some kind of a shed. I said, "Why not?" He says, "I'm not leaving her." I says, "Let's call up your father-in-law, Rabbi Gifter, Mrs. Karab's grandfather. Let's call him up. See what he says." Anyhow, we made a three-way phone call. Rabbi Gifter picks up the phone. I say, "Rabbi Gifter, I called him Uncle Raut." That's how we called him in the Mishbak. We have a story here with this shid. And I told y uncle to come and this and that. He said anybody who knew Rab Gifter you know he was a a godle but he was a dynamic decisive person and there's no arguments that filling the pajamas. He says take your pajamas and you go towards Israel. He says but my wife is he says she had eight kids without you. She'll have another child without you. I'll send mommy to be with her. just go towards this road. He says, "Take your bags and leave." He says, "The hosta passport." He said, "Yeah, foreign Canada airport." He lives not far. Okay. 18 hours later, I get a phone call. Rabbi Riceman calls me. I'm in AR in the house. I want to meet the boy. He goes and he meets the boy and he sat with him for 5 hours and he calls me back with tears in his eyes. He tells me I couldn't have dedic Rabbi Foyer and Rabbi Riceman inviting the boy to come to be with him Shabas to spend in Harno. They were in somebody's house they want to spend in Shabas. So I said to him, you got to get engaged. You can't just call a boy to come to be with the girl for Shabas before they get engaged. He says, yeah, but we just want to make sure and then we're going to end next week. I said no next week you got said when are you going to make let's call again we call he says he says just make finish the and then you can come for shabas then next week make a party to make a long story short there was a party on Monday night hundreds of people came to the party because both mish pas are very well-known mish pokas and this and that and I was the guest speaker I was a sh I was a guest speaker and I said I want to tell you a story Okay, I want to tell you a story. I said I was I lost my father when I was 13. I came to America. I was born I was in there and I went to America to be with my uncle Rabbi Sarkin who was a partner with Rabbi Gifter in Telih and I remember I was 14 years of age. I slept in the dormatory and Rabbi and Mrs. riseman yank and kasi as as known as at the time were going out and they came to clinch off the shiv by the night of the finishing the shiv they said the night they're getting engaged and I'm invited to come to rabbi gifter's house and Mr. Ryman rabbi risman's father was Mr. as old Hungarian person. He came to Rabbi Gifter. They started talking and they got into such a what we call in Chinese imps to come to work in his jewelry shop in his silver shop and Robert Gif was talking to him about signing lifetime to be in colo. They couldn't make ends meet and they're going and I'm sitting in yeshiva at nine o'clock, 10 o'clock. Everybody's talking yeshiva 11 o'clock. What happened the engagement? Everybody's waiting. It's not happening. I got a message. It's not happening. I went to the dormatory to sleep. 11:30 I was a young boy. I went to sleep. My uncle who was a diplomat came in there and he ironed out some kind of a magic formula made peace and at 1:00 at night they drank lime. Rabbi Gifter told his son Zali, Rabbi Zali Gifter was my contemporary at the time. He says, "Go to the dorm to wake him up. He's a he should not be deprived from this dancing in our I remember 1:00 he came. He woke me up. I took off my pajamas. I ran to Rab G's house. I remember the nigim we danced around the table and I was so touched by it. I wrote my mother was alone a letter that look at Rabbi Gifter. He's a god of this and that. He's okay. He's a uncle. He's a far uncle. This but it was important for him that I thinking about me at 1:00 at night. I should come dancing with him. I really am extremely touched and I am I owe him one. I'll never forget it to the rest of my life. Okay. Now I said that I could pay back and be the shin of this sh that I was invited to dance. I think that I paid back my dues for being recognized and being there. As I sit down, the brother-in-law gets up and he says, "Your father died in front of everyone." He says, "How do you know?" He says, "I want to tell you how I know." He says, "That night I was driving. I had my for six years. My roommate and my kabus was getting married in LA in Ramadan and I'm driving on the kish ga I open up the six o'clock evening news and they said my father had a very rare blood type he was laying there in the hospital dying and they need blood a certain sug certain type blood blood type anybody who's around the hospital and area that's what they said on the news with this and this blood type they need urgently please come into shame he says I'm standing by the I know if I'm going to go there, I'm not going to make the hoop. And I'm contemplating back and forth. I don't know whose life I'm saving. I came, I ran in, they checked my blood. They see it's not blood type. They said they don't even have time to draw my blood and to put it to to run it. Normally, they some kind of a filter. He said, "The guy is dying. Just we know we have the blood type. Go to the room." I came to the room. It's called a direct transfusion. Those This is a story 52 years ago. Okay. He says, "I sat down. They took they put a syringe. They put in a IV to me to take out my blood and your father was on the other side and they had to do it very slow with a 2 and 1 half hour procedure of me giving the blood to your father. While I was giving your father blood, your father was nif in the same time." He says, "I couldn't go to the anymore. What I saw in my eyes, I saw your father was a big rabbi, but I gave the last blood drop to your father. And I came to nobody knew me. And I'm walking around. I said, you know, my last my father's last breath, I lost my best friend's and I came there. And now you took my brother-in-law who has special needs and you were the shak to go. I had to wrap up the shik of my brother-in-law. You paid me back. So I'm looking you know it's a story that took over 25 years to transpire and hashem is a very very successful shid but has his own mysterious ways of making pulling here the blanket to this side stretching it over continents countries centuries decades and everything comes together for me it was a sense of satisfaction I felt that at the time need. I needed that smile in a dark alley. This guy happened to marry his sister by coincidence. Is the guy who felt that they owe him one? Everybody was paid back. So you're asking me what kind of sense of satisfaction? Yes, I did have much satisfaction for this story. I want to tell you just something to wrap it up. It's getting late and it's overtime. You're doing aesh each and every one of you and you're helping says sits and what does he do? I don't know if he works for another organization but he is sitting in mavave of building up homes your reward of putting couples together. You never ever know what kind of ripple effect for ramifications of generations to come from each house you help assist in building. There's no greater partnership with than being ahatan. And if you do it and you do it right with the right intention with the right cavanas and you really mean to help to assist and you can get a pas you should get a pa you know and if you make a living out of it you partially make a living you're doing it is going to assist you with whatever you Wow, thank you so much. Before you leave, I just want to director of program. Please raise your hand. She probably wants to tell you thank you. So, please unmute yourself. I I What's her name? I I just I have Oh, okay. I have no words. Okay. I'm just sitting here blown away. I could listen to another hour of stories because this just brings home to me. Everything every step is governed and I I just I had no words. I'm I'm just like I I I don't know. This made my week. I I'm just I'm gonna forge ahead of me. Thank you so much. You're very welcome. You should all have a gizonta winter and make many more. And Mrs. When collectively this group makes another 100, call me. I'll come online once again. You got a deal. That That's a deal. Everybody work really hard. Start taking notes from tonight. Inclusive but not limited tonight. Okay. Thank you. Zism.