Rabbi Mintz Live - 3/19/13 - "Gems From The Pesach Hagadda"

welcome everybody to our pre-pacer gathering schmooze party there's a lot of good things happening tonight besides the regular laws of pesach and the schmooze about pesach we have as you see our talented cousin duffy and the talented toten rabbi with his guitar to entertain us and get us involved and get us warmed up get us warmed up for the upcoming happy holiday of pesach and also we have something very special tonight that our good friend sal shemesh is making you see him tonight now eseem means that if one finishes a message tractate a portion of the gemara that's considered a great uh reason to celebrate and uh he finished i think seth mcgill is it seth macgillar yeah so that's really a very very uh important milestone in his life and when the person likes to see him he makes a celebration for everybody that he invites to to see him so very uh touched that you chose us to make the scene over here reveal it should be a metlife stadium to make to see him because why not everybody makes it seem should go to metlife but to keep things a little more toned down before pacer could decide we'll make it over here instead of the next one you'll make in metlife stadium okay how many hundred thousand people that's the way it really should be so i think that you'll at the when we finish that's when you'll uh at about 9 30 i guess around then to make the scene right okay now to go into a few of the laws of pesach as i promised last week we have here monday which is before pesach we have to stop eating comments we don't wait till the night time like most holidays the holiday starts at night time but when it comes to past second comments we stopped eating comets the day before which will be uh this coming monday and the time to stop eating comments is 10 58. so 18 seconds over here but we're not going to talk about seconds 10 58 a.m this coming monday morning we must refrain from eating any more comments and the burning of the comments which we mentioned last week remember that we have to search for the comments the night before sunday night we go around the house with the candle looking for comets whatever we find we put away and whatever comments is left the next day is burned unless we sell it to a non-jew which is sold put different part of the house whatever we found with our search the ten pieces we put around or the other comments that we found with the search with the candle must be burned by 12 o'clock p.m 12 at noon monday so the end of eating is 10 58 and the burning must be done by 12 o'clock noon on monday so uh that's where you come in with the men going around collecting all the uh comets on the streets the people burned them and they have to collect it up afterwards so that's a big mitzvah to burn the comets and then we say call kamira the special words that any accomplice that we have in our possession that we didn't find should be null and void and relinquish our ownership on any compass that we have those are the times for eating and burning comets it's a mitzvah as we know to drink four cups of wine both say to knights and if possible it should be wine not grape juice unless somebody can't drink wine second best is grape juice and it's a mitzvah for the wine to be read uh one reason because red is either for the blood of them that was spilled of the jewish children the king decided that he had a bad rash so his doctors told him that if he breathes in the blood it'll be a cure for him so he took the jewish babies and slaughtered them and bathed in their blood nice guy pirate and remember remembrance of that terrible thing we use red wine and wine in general is considered red is considered the best kind of wine so if we have red wine we should use that rather than white wine or yellow wine and also instead of grape juice if possible we know about the blood libels that were practiced in the last few hundred years in europe even in america there's a blood libel i don't know if you really realize that that they make all kinds of crazy accusations that the jews have to take some non-jewish blood and put it into matters and the jews suffered from that so much for that lie that people started talking about them and if there is any type of suspicion that somebody's going to come up with a blood libel that don't use the red wine because if it's red they'll say oh there's blood in the wine that's kind of crazy kind of accusations that they have in new york i understand i forget which mayor was empowered and maybe somebody remembers that he also got into the craziness the jews might be using non-jewish blood for the matzos for the wines they told people be careful watch your children but peso time it was a terrible thing that he uh he gave into it but yeah yeah in new york one of the mayor of new york and i don't i forget which major it was that he uh he uh also got talked into michigan and uh naturally he's saying that it really got people scared the person knows some outstanding mayor of new york i met for the rain the bitter herbs a bit of vegetable that we have to eat pace at night the different uh traditions of what to use some people use horseradish which is really very difficult to eat especially if you don't grate it even if it's grated it's also difficult to eat because it's so strong powerful if a person wants to insist on eating horseradish maybe that was the tradition in this family what could be done is to be graded before and spread around a little bit for the uh bitterness and the sharpness to be dissipated from the horseradish but a person can use different types of romaine lettuce that is available and certainly much easier to eat than horseradish but the problem of having in a little tiny tiny worms the problem has to be washed out very carefully with salt water just not to soak it long in salt water because that'll make it invalid but just for a short time because they sell the lettuce today it comes with the hatcher on it that was pre-washed and pre-cleaned and pre-checked before naturally that's the best thing today to do instead of doing it by yourself but if you want to do it by yourself to be very careful to wash it thoroughly and hold up to light and see that there's no foreign objects in in the in the lettuce there's so many laws i'm just going through a few of them highlights the mitzvah of the night in this time of golos is the terror law is mata the time of the holy temple was standing the torah the corbin pessah called the paschal lamb and to eat the matzah and the more they're all torah laws today the only torah law that's left is matzah itself the moral today is also a rabbinical law the sacrifice itself we don't have today so we have to be careful that the matzah should be eaten according to the laws of the torah it has to be a certain amount eaten within a certain amount of time you just can't take one bite of matzo and say i fulfill the mitzvah matzah there has to be a certain measurement of masa that we have to eat some people are more strict about it makes me less strict about it but uh to uh fulfill the mitzvah in that at least in the way that it could be fulfilled in the most simple way if you take a piece of matzah which will be eight inches by four inches has to be shmuramatsu don't forget it can't be the regular matzah from the box because there are some sugar mats in the box too but mostly i hope everybody got the round monsters we sent around to everybody sometimes told me today they're all smashed into into smithereens anybody at the whole monster say in the mail where they hold didn't open it yet i got a call today from somebody the elder masters were matzo meal it came with plenty got it in the mail i hope it didn't help everybody else anybody opened up the box of matzos anybody didn't open up yet they opened four pesos don't wait to the state and make sure that you have whole mattresses so to be used the round mattress that we spoke about that it's the uh it's been watched from the time of the not time even cutting before the cutting you have to make sure that when it gets ripe that no water gets on it even when it's still connected to the ground and uh that amount of matter should be eaten within as soon as as fast as you can eat it certainly not more than nine minutes that eight by four within nine minutes better if you ate it faster than that but it should not be eaten in the in in less than in more than nine minutes that piece of matzo and the murrah also a nice leaf of morrow to take to be eaten as soon as possible as fast as possible and the koi we make the sandwich with the two piece of mass on both sides and the more in the middle also that amount of matzah with a nice big leaf of lettuce or a ball of moru that's the uh what we call the horseradish if you make a ball out of it should be as big as a half an egg at least as big as a third of an egg to eat it by itself and then put it within the sandwich all to be eaten as soon as possible otherwise not considered a mitzvah if we take too much time to eat it and there's not enough to be eaten okay those are some of the highlights of the laws of pesos there's so many more laws but i want to bring out the point also that we start another mitzvah the second night of pesach we start another mitzvah of counting the ulmer and we count every night from the second out of pesach 49 days 49 nights until shavuous when the terror was given so a lot of people get so involved with all the other mitsubishi of peso they're not thinking about the other mitzvahs but we should not forget to start counting the umer the second night of pesach and try to remember to count every night afterwards for 49 straight consecutive nights afterwards and now we're coming to our schmooze exciting gems from the will keep us awake it's not easy to stay awake the whole night especially if you eat drink that wine we're talking about and the clock is sticking on so if things are exciting then we can stay awake so try to make a little bit exciting so we'd like what oh you know where the names were white uber means stay awake you have to say you have to be awake yeah but we uh guaranteed we well they give you a cap at the end of the state holiday okay huh so in order to get us into the mood of being excited and awake we'll ask our guitar token rabbi rabbi kai musha which we appreciate him coming so much and a great cousin duffy which appreciates so much coming tonight to get us into the mood see we get so awake tonight they'll keep us going and they can't stay awake the whole time until then but i mean they'll give us the in the mood of the time pastor comes and the satan will be so alive and so full of vigor enthusiasm there won't be a problem to stay awake so as we always start off that we thank god we're able to we lived until this great occasion of being able to live through the great holiday of of the fulfill the great holiday of pesach give it thanks to hashem we say unto our kids and tonight we'll we'll sing it and play it in order to feel it that we're thanking god that we're alive and we still have our faculties we still have our brains our the power to think know what's going on and it brings us with that great night of pesach and this great night of pre-pesach so we'll ask them to please honor us and entertain us and bring us up to a great level of spirituality but they're singing you can sing along if you want um oh the my a foreign is oh no isn't it good to have some w back if we had these people i say they sure wouldn't fall asleep well the first item on our glossary sheet is something that that should be enough to keep us awake for the whole night for sure this is a quote from the zohar now the zohar is the book of the kabbalah of the secrets of the torah and certain things we can't understand so easily except people that are well worse well versed in kabbalah but certain things are more understandable and this that shows out and it's brought down by many of the great commentaries on the haggadah because the words are aramaic they're not hebrew because the slovak was written in aramaic which is very similar to hebrew and it says quoting the word kanesh it should be the holy one blessed be he god gathers together all the angels of his palace whatever that means and he points out to them and he says to them look at what my children are doing tonight the night of pesach that they are saying the haggadah and re-remembering what happened in egypt 3000 years ago over three thousand years ago and they're praising me and we're having a very good relationship together so imagine that god's by everybody cider that means not one person say to some place in israel or australia wherever we are making a seder if it's made the right way according to following the steps of the goda god comes to everybody satan with his whole angels from his whole palace and so proud of the jewish people making the seder tonight so if we keep that in mind it certainly is a very very stimulating idea and thought and action from hashem from god to show his great love for the jewish people great closest to us that uh that we're relating to our children and to everybody around us and getting into it feeling it and enjoying it and appreciating it the whole say tonight of the whole exit that's going out of egypt so that's the number one exciting point that we could keep in mind to keep us awake another point because there's so much and i got to talk about we could stay here for days and nights and days and nights but just took out a few highlights that are i've considered exciting exciting whether they're in in our uh our feelings in our emotions or exciting in our thoughts in our intellect we start off which is said also in aramaic interesting the whole god is in hebrew but there's two places there make the first beginning of the god is aramaic and the last god the last song anybody happens to be up at that time not sleeping yet the last words of the haggadah are aramaic also so this the reason being because the hola goda was made for the people living in the land of israel they spoke hebrew but was not said in inertia said golus when they went into buffalo into babylonians into the golus that's when they said so that egolos they spoke aramaic but there's a big question on this these words this is the poor bread that our fathers ate in the land of egypt now if you have somebody even a little child going to cater going to hebrew school ask him why do we eat matzon pesach he'll tell you because of the great miracle that happened that god goes out of egypt so quickly that they have a chance for their doubt to rise so they had to break it right away that's what anybody tell you how good that says that later as a matter of fact god itself says that what does that mean showing the freedom the exodus the freedom of jewish people had such a quick leaving of egypt they didn't even have time to break their eyes they leave so fast is a sign of freedom of joy of happiness all of a sudden this is the poor bread that our fathers ate in the land of egypt what is the poor bread it's a total contradiction to what mata is all about all of a sudden it's poor bread that they ate when did they eat that bread when they went out of egypt it's poor bread the answer is that mata people don't realize it matzah was not introduced to the jewish people when they left egypt matzah somebody ate when they were slaves in the land of egypt the reason being because the same reason why we talk about leaving and not having a chance to leaven the same thing when they had to go to work the task masters would knock on the door and take their whips and get out to work early in the morning so if they wanted to make bread they had to make it real fast they couldn't wait till elevens you know when you make kalo you make bread you have to let it rise and you have to wait they couldn't wait they had no time they put flour water together mixed it up put in the oven matzah that's what they ate all the years when they're in egypt as the poor bread this is the master in the middle that we break in half to show that the only poor person doesn't even have a whole piece of bread piece of bread so this matzah is symbolizing a neo symbolizing poorness affliction pain suffering so mata that means has two sides to it it has a side of affliction and pain and inside of it of freedom and happiness wonder egypt that they ate in the land of egypt this is the poor but they ate all the years and the same matzah the same reason for being matter because of the quickness and how fast it had to be baked is a sign of freedom it's no coincidence that it has both things to it both sides to it very similar to what we spoke about the last few weeks if you remember about uh pain and suffering we're talking about verbena yoiner that god gives pain and suffering to people in order to wake them up and to better themselves and become better people you have to have their attitude to pain and suffering from pain and suffering can come out great things that's what was showing with the matzah that the being in the land of egypt for those years and suffering and working and toiling brought them into the level of being able to accept the torah that's the main purpose for going to egypt because in order to make them in more of a spiritual people not into mundane kashmir this world and all of its mundane earthly physical features that it has they were slaves and they had very little and they got to be more spiritual people not into this world not into all the physical mundane down to earth features of the world but they became much more intellectual people being satisfied with what they had with very little and that is what brought them to the happiness of the exodus on the way to receive the torah of mount sinai that was the purpose of the whole thing so the mata that we're eating has two sides to it and one brings to the next the side of the matzah the idea of the poor bread that they ate that is what brought them eventually to leave with the same kind of matzah and this time the matzah was a happy matzah since they left so quickly they didn't have a chance to make it in egypt there was a sad matzah because they have a chance to make it because they were driven by their task masters but when they left that's the same reason why it's matzah was a happy reason for it that they had to leave right away to get away from all the suffering of the pain but one causes the other thing to happen that's what we have to think about in our daily lives when we have difficulties and pain sometimes or suffering sometimes like we spoke about the last few weeks we have to have the right attitude to realize it's coming from god it's not happening by itself and it's supposed to bring us to a higher level of greatness spirituality so this is something to think about which is a i call it a very exciting intellectual idea number three this is the answer to the four questions and the question is how does this answer the four questions the question is why we matzah why we eat more why we dip in twice why are we leaning tonight and they say we're slaves to power in egypt how does that tell us why we're eating matzah why we need more why was leaning why are we dipping in twice and the different answers how we explain this i i didn't mention we i guess everybody noticed the sheets over here for the selling of the comments we hope everybody will take advantage of it those who didn't do until now to take the sheet to fill it out and we will take care of selling comments for peso a very important idea is being told over to the children who are asking the manuscript a very important fundamental idea in judaism is being brought forth with this answer with these words pyro the mighty king may be the mightiest king in the world at the time we know kings in those times were not like a president today they were all powerful whatever they said goes you can't argue they can't discuss what the king says that is it no discussion and no going back on it it has to be right once they sent out the letters you can't take it back anymore once the king says something so we tell our children to tell ourselves we're asking questions asking questions god said to do it if god said to do it we shouldn't question him we know he tells us things even though we don't understand some of the laws we don't understand many of the laws are called statutes laws without any reason of course there's a reason god knows the reason people who study very deeply can know the reason but in the meantime we don't have to understand everything in the torah some people say well why does the torah say this so why did tara say that why does he can't eat you can't eat pig why can't you eat it it's delicious a very good food why can't you eat seafood why not what's wrong with it you say well god's the king he said don't eat it don't question it just like the king of egypt gave a decree everybody realized that he is smarter than everybody else that's why he's the king he has his cabinet he has his advisors he has his people they give out decrees maybe not the masses don't understand the reason for these laws doesn't mean they don't make any sense maybe don't percent don't don't make sense to the masses to the plain person on the street but the intellectuals are the king and his advisers then they know why they made these these laws these so you tell a child you have questions you have to realize what god says you don't have to question you accept it after you accept it naturally we delve into reasons of things god wants us to think and to reason and to ask and to answer and to discuss that something we don't accept judaism as a that's it god said so and we don't have to look any further no that's the initially the basic acceptance of the torah nasa that goes to jews said nasa venice but we're going to do it later we understand it once it's done he wants us to delve into it and understand and and and get as much out of it as possible that our everybody's intellectual is able to grasp but initially we are supposed to accept it because god said so whatever the reason he knows why that's the first thing once we accept it and we're going to fulfill his command so then we can start doubling into it understanding the reasons for it so we have to have both but the first reaction to god's command is i accept it i understand i don't understand it makes no difference now that i accepted it let's sit down and try to understand it god wants us to delve into it everybody's studying the gomorrah the talmud we know nothing is accepted nothing is they just say well that's it it's discussed and argued and thrown back and forth and and and and delved into in the deepest way possible we don't accept things and just say it makes no difference to reason no we have to understand it but the initial acceptance has to be without any questions so we say to the children you're asking questions first you have to know god said so eat matzah eat matzo eat more eat more dip in twice what's the difference with the reason we're not interested in the reason we're interested right now to do it now after we do we accept it now we're interested in understanding why so that's a very important idea to be given over to our children and to ourselves to realize what the laws of the torah are all about maybe we could have some a little more entertainment now all right is now people like mr ah oh i oh m oh is oh is he's not here three oh then he said uh beautiful the next point which i'd like to bring out is we say in the haggadah that three things are vital to talk about even though the god is pretty long but three things are vital to discuss we know that it's called the carbon pesach means according to rashi skipping over that when god went to kill the firstborn of the egyptians he skipped over the houses of the jews and he did not touch them did not kill them but he did so to the firstborn of the egyptians that's what passage called the carbon pesach but really the corbin pessah has a little more history to it that the jewish people were commanded to take that animal four days before they're going to slaughter it as a carbon as a sacrifice to take to god and check it over for four days before to make sure it has no blemishes now the animal the set that they were preparing for this sacrifice the lamb the sheep was the god of the egyptians and if you realize that the egyptians worshiped this lamb just like today we had the hindus and the whole worship the holy cow the word holy cow comes home because there are people according to some sources this is the started in egypt with the lamb and that went over to the cow which is a little similar to a cow they still worship it today but in egypt that was the avodah that was their idol worship was was the lamb and god told the jewish people take that lamb and that the sheep and show them the egyptians that we don't believe in this this is ridiculous it's not a god and slaughter it as a sacrifice to god to the one god of the jewish people out of the world so when the egyptians asked the jewish people what are you doing with that lamb why are you taking it before they tell we're going to shake it we're going to slaughter it to our god and the egyptians were burning with anger but they couldn't do anything normally they they killed him they stopped him what are you doing you're going to take our god and slaughter for your god who do you think you are you're in our country you are slaves but the jewish people listened to god's commandment and they put their lives on the line and they said it's just what they're supposed to say we're taking this to make it as a sacrifice to the god of the jewish people and that happened to be on shabbos the first time they took it four days before it was in shabbos that's what we call this coming shabbos called shabbos the great chambers special name once a year the shops before pastor called hashabas the great shabbos great shabbos was because the great action the great belief the jews had in hashem and god that they took the lamb they told the egyptians we're going to slaughter it for a god and they weren't afraid and the egyptians couldn't do anything to them was a big miracle god just held them back they couldn't do anything they were angry they were burning they wanted to do something they couldn't do anything so this is something that we have to think about in our times the same way that there are many temptations out in the street and many all different kinds of philosophies and all kinds of ways of life people have and contrary to jewish thought to jewish life and we have to be strong and stand up to it even though we are not in our own land we're in gallus but just like the jews then they were in a strange land they were in gallus but they stood up for what's right they didn't say well we're in those strange land we better start up with them we better cooperate with them and go along with them with their ideas they were thrown they stood up for what's right they put lives on the line you got to do what's right and not to do to to fall into the melting pot what everybody's doing so we got to do two and that's something we have to apply to our daily lives that we are jewish people we have artoria we have our god we have our ideas we have our mitzvahs our commandments and we don't have to be influenced by our surroundings we have to stick up and live according to the way we're supposed to live and not be afraid and not be influenced in any way from the outside from the street from the internet from the publications from the papers from the tv whatever all kinds of influence of them bombarding us from day to the time we get up to the time we go to sleep at night we have all kinds of ideas contrary to jewish ideas that we're being exposed to on a regular basis and many people fall trap to it many people give into it and they become very neutralized jewish people they're not strong standing up for what judaism is all about and this is one of the lessons we learned from the government to excite us to think about that night tonight i take upon myself just like the jews then stood up for what's right didn't care what the egyptians are going to do what they're going to say we got to do what we got to do what god says that's how i've committed myself tonight to pesach to do what's right everybody in their own particular circumstances some people are living in the non-jewish neighborhood some people have non-jewish co-workers some people even the yeshiva they have influences that are not so great many times that they shouldn't give into from the most pious to the most unaffiliated we're always facing influences contrary to jewish life and thought and we have to live up to what's right so i think that maybe now uh we could take some questions maybe continue with this later like last week we finished that at the end but maybe some i think some good questions to ask anybody good online questions maybe we'll start with those wait well there's somebody here you have to send up over here oh okay especially since we have to see him we can ask everybody to keep it just the questions rabbi firstly i want to thank you for the passover package we received that was very nice of you rabbi our pleasure thank you uh rabbi was there a family life during the period that we were slaves in other words was there family were there children born or anything like that well that's a good question they had their family life and as a matter of fact the families were pure and there's no outside uh men and women living together they stuck to their husbands and to their wives except for one woman who was raped they couldn't help it but otherwise the families were pure and holy and the children were the children of the mother and the father of jewish of jewish origin at one period the men wanted to stop having children because the children were being killed murdered stuffed into the walls thrown into the water and they decided this is ridiculous why are we having children for if they're just being murdered and killed all the time and they wanted to stop having children and the jewish women were against that had led by miriam and they said no that we have to go on and have faith in hashem in god it is not going to go on forever you know with a certain amount of years the jewish people have to stay in golos but that's going to be over sooner or later we have to have children to keep the jewish nation going and they went out and they prevailed and they started having children again and but there was serious thoughts of of we should should we have family life normal and should we have children because of the uh the terrible uh pain and and suffering that they're going through and the murdering that was going on the children of the people but uh it was decided that we have to go on and we'd have to do ours and god would do his and that's what happened at the end that they had a whole nation that went out of egypt they didn't stop multiplying they were also slaves definitely swims also slaves as a matter of fact part of the uh suffering is they used to make men do women's work and women do men's work that was part of putting them down and taking away their uh the pride just like the germans did that type of thing with that to knock people down as much as you can and and feel bad about themselves and lose their self-respect so but the women were also enslaved yes we have a question from online how were we jews because we're discussing how the jews were slaves in egypt and how the jews went down to egypt and we're slaves there how were we jews before we got the torah well the main answer to that question is that god made a schwa and a promise and a commitment of to abraham since abraham lived up to what god wanted in the world nobody else did since the great flood nobody took up for god's sake for god's cause until i remember abraham and he went out into the world and put his life on the line and he preached to everybody the ridiculousness of idol worship and there's only one god and we should live by his laws the seven outlaws and he uh fought for god's name he put his life on the line for god's name and god said since you did that i'm making a covenant with you treating with you that from now on you and your children will be my people and uh even though i didn't have the torah yet but they had the promise of god's torah promise of god's people means they will eventually get the torah seven generations afterwards from rome to moshe albania to moses with seven generations so they had that promise of being god's people and they will eventually accept the torah so that's what made them jews and besides that in egypt we know that they kept their identity very strong they didn't change their names didn't change from goldberg to uh to macarthur they kept the name goldberg and they didn't change the way of dress they dressed like jews and they did not change their language they kept the jewish the hebrew that they spoke the whole time so they kept their identity very strongly in egypt to show that the jews they kept their names in the way of dress and their language so these things kept them as a uh as a nation that they were different from the their task masters and the people who oppressed them rabbi so it sounds like hashem had this plan of making the jews suffer as sort of an awakening and i think you've been kind of teaching us that as you know as as the weeks have been going and suffering as it has the power to uh purify a person and make person more holy and more uh outstanding more special it's not the intellectual part of teaching and waking us up to do the right thing but also pain in itself has a power of of uh of purifying so my question is what you know with their specific events now i understand that this is what hashem wanted to do but would were there specific events that led us to physically become slaves i mean does this go back to joseph uh you know being in egypt and then uh you know sort of generations later something happened that we became slaves how did it kind of turn from that well the beginning of the idea of being slaved in egypt came to abraham avraham avinu when he fell asleep and had his prophecy dream and god told him that your children will be enslaved let's say egypt at that time he's into a certain nation and they're going to suffer from years and then they will go out and they will go out with the great uh with great raku with great uh wealth wealth in physical terms and wealth in spiritual terms so this was predestined from the time of abraham when he had that that navoor that prophecy dream that god told him about the whole future of that gullus and all the ghosts coming afterwards all the exiles babylonia whether it was the time of the mordecai whether it's at the time of adam or the romans what we're living today all these all these uh goliaths all of these exiles the aspara were already the predestined from before so was this knowledge the knowledge of this dream was that passed on yes yes the jewish people knew they could continue sooner or later they have to go go through this thank you okay another online question my husband was born sephardic i was born ashkenazi and attended this attended a sephardic synagogue since my marriage are my children and grandchildren sephardic rashkinazak your husband is fired she's ashkenazi and she with this fighting shield suit well you should go according to the husband and the husband as you go according to what he is some people for some reason might change over but the uh for for some kind of might move into a uh ashkenazic uh community they want to be different or as fine as it's asking so it's a fighting community we find people like that but the general rule is you go according to the tuition tradition of the husband the father of the family okay another question from online um this came from somebody had their hand up i'm sorry thank you something else if i want to make a gala what a gala you say a gala yeah it's a question no no no no okay this is from a new torah mate who's learning with a recent convert she wants to know how to explain to her how to relate to avadham hayno and the concept of our forefathers coming out of egypt if the converts forefathers in fact did not go through the exodus from egypt so a convert how can they be say sit down by the seder and talk about the uh the exodus of egypt if they didn't something not go out of egypt well that's a great question uh we know that uh avraham avinu is considered he's the father of all future gayrim that are going to come out of the jewish people so uh we look at every person who converts to judaism like part of our nation because alvaro vino is considered the father of all those people who convert so therefore we accept him in all ways that he's considered like our brothers and our sisters and part of the jewish nation the same question arises how do we talk about uh avoid them we weren't about them ourselves uh thousands of years ago they were voting we weren't we were about them at that time but since we're part of the jewish nation they're all one nation so look at it as we were avoiding we were part of that nation so now to the convert because it says but same question is uh people today how can they uh merciacus and how can they feel that we went out of egypt thousands of years ago but we say but well one nation and therefore we look at our grandfathers great grandfathers look at ourselves as we were in egypt and we went out as a nation and we are part of one nation together every person who becomes jewish since he becomes like the son of afravino he's part of this nation so he also looks at it as if i'm part of it i want to i'm part of that whatever happened to them happened to me it's all the same thing just like the children today whatever happened to them to us because we're all one we're all one family so therefore we look at it as as as as that person is was always part of the jewish nation as far as he's concerned right now just like every every person today is part of that nation so it's like you have a family that some somebody was in the in the concentration camp so people coming a descendants from them had feeling more of a connection to that person because even they weren't in the confrontation camp but they hear the stories that what their grandfather went through it makes a certain uh kinship to that person that uh that we're all one family and he went he went he went through it feels like we're all well part of that family we feel more of a of a pain that somebody else feels since we were part of the family so the pain of the jewish people as one nation we feel the pain of the nation so that person becomes jewish is part of the nation he can also feel that pain he feels like he has a torah as the missus everything else and so we come all one nation together oh so when we owned by the seam now okay so sal is going to do the great uh mitzvah by finishing him how long does it take to learn how many how many how long have you taken about that a year a whole year wow the whole year and it's really very trying to make it easier we're very proud that we have a person like sal here who studies torah every day it's great also i want to thank rabbi means that he gave me the opportunity to end the massacre with him over here from everybody and you already means we respect you highly respect you and rabbi means is he doing everything for everybody he helped many people to go to come closer to hashem through touching torah and helping them donate both many boys and girls have a hard time adjusting in yeshivas and the scholars send them to public school to rescue them and bring them back to jewish school and the jewish world in jeff s eighth grader they asked him what do you want to be when you grow up say i i want to become rabbi means it's true story everybody must know about it right different than everybody most of the people i think that i know in my life because i think he's very close to hashem when hashem what he provided us everything he gave us and he gave us where we ask from us only to learn torah to do the mitzvot the same thing rabbi means he constantly give many people in their own look to take and by means look for ways to give one time somebody that arrow on friday night in the family and they had a baby that the baby was crying suffering and the family don't know what to do and to rescue them to the hospital or to keep shabbat and all the family like six people bringing the boy from one hand to other hand to help them about four o'clock in the morning this boy would get up he say now i understand right by means look at me what they have to do is say yes you see how many people looking here for one little boy to be healthy and now i understand how rubber means he can't sleep at night now over here i can't sleep and rubber runs that reason they can sleep now with the promotion on the rabbi and your permission i want to take a shame to finish my secret megillah first of all you have to understand power if you can understand very hard to understand too complicated now the question raised why in a problem before is the end of the megillah when we say ali israel hashem israel hatan so fairly say something very very nice sitting by the cedar at pesach they have to feel themselves like they are in the train to feel like they have become freedom and what he said at the beginning who was a volcano he was alabama worship and now we are here feeling that night we are like a slave and now when we finish the agatha we're ready to make the bracha it's the same thing like a guy when you want to cover to be a jew what he does he first simply have to go to the mikveh too deep and then he makes the bracha it's something else we have converseful to deep and then to do the bracha now i'd like to finish the gemara each this holiday he have defense law that we have to learn also around before i finish i want to thank my torah mate that you can attend over here tonight but you got probably watching us live my is um foreign oh know is my gosh uh oh is oh is i am place all right know the words who knows what we know oh three we know five is who knows eight we know eight you got a baby what is before the babies are born is who knows we know 10 10 out of 10. is who knows is what is that