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On the Table - Ep #1: Shabbat.com - Rabbi Peretz B. Eichler with Rabbi Benzion Klatzko
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Huygens Paris Boracay clear outside the
wolf in the land and upscale is coated
with in restaurant well we've got a
brand new talk show for you on the table
fascinating personalities issues all on
the table just for you
[Music]
hi everybody terrace for a fika welcomes
you on this table where we put it all on
the table issues personalities
intriguing people and of course great
food no word thought about food koushaku
zina pores and a lot of food for thought
my guest today is Robby Benson class Co
the founder and CEO of Shabbat calm but
first let's order and eat Jonathan
Jonathan is our head waiter here at the
wolf and lamb located on Coney Island
Avenue Avenue L also at a location in
the town Manhattan or the classic oh do
you know even view ordering personally
I'm a duck person you know it's a very
humble animal that's full of goodness
and underrated so I see you have a honey
ginger duck breast now I have a question
for does it come with crackers
oh sorry about that okay very good I'll
put it on the bill side
okay we're both winging is actually is
you got it's got it's made with Swiss
chard butternut squash and parsnip
crisps so that looks like a delicious
meal and just because I have to offset
all that Oh
all that guilt with some righteousness
how about a salad looks a little bit
market salad arugula frizzy pear
cranberry candy walnuts and honey
vinaigrette Wow
would you eat them and we love you that
I'll share it all right okay okay my
philosophy is like the soil surprises
eat dessert first so obviously I just
think I'll have the trophy cake first
but actually could I just have the
market salad look look okay
well the dependent is it cost work the
market is up markets down oh no off to
productive until that one okay okay all
right Jonathan thank you very much we'll
be looking forward to see you in just a
bit
thank you all right our guest today is
rather than see on class go he lives in
Muncie but really his impact is felt
around the world
he is founded something called Shabbat
calm welcome rather classical thanks so
much for joining me at on the table
thank you for having me thank you it's
really our food you our personality and
the Jewish world and
actually meeting with president a chance
to sit across the table and talked
operatively say is really a privilege
tell us about what is obviously your
life's project is not your mission
shabbat calm Shabaab the Gemara and they
otamatea says that God had a treasure in
his treasure house and he gave it to the
Jewish people and that treasure is
called Shabbat and Shabbat became just
the cornerstone the treasure that has
kept us going through difficulty in a
Grauman Inquisition and hardship and
today a lot of people don't know about
this treasure so beautiful and it keeps
families together reminds us that we
have a goal in the world we have a
mission
so shabbat back home was created to give
people the opportunity to experience
Shabbat to give those who already know
about you lots of places when they need
and really to take care of the Jewish
people one day a week where we can come
together in love and in peace and in
song and food who always makes area
always especially but how did the idea
come to you
so I come from a large family and so
does my wife and we've grown up having a
lot of guests and we used to have guests
after we got married we have large Chava
tonin I became a rabbi in a college
campus and we have 100 150 people each
week from the college campus now that's
a campus program that's expected to have
a lot but where do they get credit for
they do not get credit but we gave a lot
of hogs and a lot of good challah when
we moved to Muncie about 10 years ago
people said to us you're never going to
have guests because who's going to come
to you in Muncie no colleges nearby the
arvid now it's a commuter campus but
sure enough that wasn't the case and we
ended up having a lot of guests and we
we averaged 60 80 100 guests each week
and we love that master zarkan and they
come to eat they sleep
we put them up when we have a Shabbat on
every single week well where did you get
the gifts from how did they know about
you and what type of gifts I mean where
what's the them graphic look like I
presume most of them are all over Jewish
hopefully they are almost all Jewish
sometimes if somebody was converting and
they like to discover the beauty of
Shabbat but how do they discover Shibata
added how did you wind up getting 60
guests to begin with so before Shabbat
that comment was a little more
hand-to-hand combat as it worried you
make a phone call you meet someone in
the grocery store you meet someone
online
some of the things a friend I never had
a problem networking and word-of-mouth
was that a client's go Shabbat is worth
going to so kind of like jiu-jitsu Wow
yeah sort of you know the people felt
wow I'm going to come here and I'm gonna
I'm gonna have a great time and I'm
going to come back to bring two friends
so we were able to bring a big show so
going to get a lot of people even before
Shabbat calm eventually people began
asking us or saying does we have our
you've so many guests why don't you send
us some of your guests
mm-hm and I would think drezel once you
find your own guests they are coming to
me because they want to come to me but
as people still do come to you you still
host oh we still owes the same amount
now most of them come from the website
and we actually have to close
registration by Tuesday Wednesday
because we throw up and if we just left
it open till Shabbat you would have you
know more than we can handle if you're
out in our house so we closed
registration for our house but it
actually people said we want guests and
I realized most people just don't have a
way of meeting people and finding guests
there's just no conduit for people to
find people especially people who want
to discover Shabbat but they don't know
the first place is that now we know that
there is Chabad out there and very often
people go to a kebab center but the
whole experience the lay person the
Jewish doctor the Jewish lawyer the
local rabbi the simple person who simply
chance to show their children what it's
like to invite beautiful guests for
Shabbat
there was no there's no way to connect
them using that anybody can come and be
against absolutely anyone can be against
on Shabbat calm it's a safe forum when
you go out to Shabbat sicom you put two
two references you put in who your
friends are you put in the body yourself
there's feedback in the same way that
eBay gives you feedback
except that every Shabbat people write
what the experience was with you and
there are a few other safeguards then
make sure that your mother come is a
very very safe environment but we have
every kind of Jew on Shabbat come we
have reformed or that I've been
conservative and renewal and a calcium
and eggs Kassadin and converts and
pre-conference old young everyone can
use it it's a social network for every
Jew every denomination every affiliation
it sounds magnificent enter
have you had some success stories and
troubling stories oh my goodness what we
have between five and ten thousand
people each week of I fit once let me
hit with five to ten thousand people
each week with and this is hosted
throughout America throughout the world
throughout the world how many countries
we're in 131 countries now Wow and so
we're literally all over we're very
popular in America of course and Canada
and France in Switzerland in Brazil is
all number two but Americans without a
doubt number one but what we say is the
most remote was the most exotic place
idea oh there are some places that has
one or two people on them yeah oh wow
come on it is this it thank you wow that
looks delicious
thank you what we're gonna come back
with rather than seeing fastball I want
to hear the rest of this is terrific but
just for the moment let's just take a
look at world and eating it looks like
we have a pair over here sliced
beautifully they have arugula and it's
got these candied almonds and
cranberries and I'm sure a lot of other
surprises in there it looks good and it
really smells good very very pungent you
think the owners by saying first bracha
all wonderful
so we have two Broncos here we've got
hot aides because this is separate this
is how aides and comes from the tree
comes from a tree and they're also not
so we're going to kite barakatuh I don't
know Elena McCallum alright three
Heights coming to work at Illinois when
you live alone very create some name
we'll get back into the whole idea of
making Broca's kosher food and look at
how they actually make some of the
superb dishes here at the wolf and lamb
as well as other great places around the
world but this is a particularly upscale
deliciously wonderful I think that's an
understatement
and I also want to be flattering anybody
with you'll see for yourself but let's
get back to our conversation now was
rather venting on class code so we were
saying that today we're in 131 countries
and people invite each other the host
can find a guest so it's not just that
the guests can work for a place but if
you're a host and you say I want to have
guests so you don't have to wait for
people to request an invite you can go
on the site and find all sorts of people
singles or even married people who want
to experience Shabbat and click invite
invite invite and in that way you could
create your own little shava tone by
inviting even without them asking how
does a person get to be a host and give
us an idea of the dynamics the
cross-section the type of host that you
have sure so one of one of the
philosophies of Shabbat calm is that
Judaism works and the Jewish people are
kind and they're giving people and
therefore we don't want they have one
kind of host we want to have a
cross-section we want there to be a
second Azam and fry them old and young
kibbutz Lee Kim Young Israel yeshiva
SHhhh from everywhere every stripe as
long as people are kind yet thoughtful
they're considerate and they make good
hosts and imagine that they themselves
are shown motive Chavez I would presume
the dog yes you have the hose fresh on
my Shabbos each host puts on a beautiful
Shabbos display with kiddush and with
sha Malaysia for a lot of people it's
their first time witnessing seeing so
much beauty and so much unity with the
father blessing the children with the
hands on the head I will tell you that a
few weeks ago a young man wrote on
traumatic on I just found out I'm Jewish
I've never done Shabbat before I heard
beautiful things about it I'd love to
experience him and instantly by putting
that on the site because you could put a
status update so you put that as a
status update instantly 2530 people
reached out to him we were lucky enough
to host him for that very first Shabbat
and he had such a great time he wrote a
beautiful letter that he put on the
front page of Shabbat calm and not only
that but he came a few days later on
Purim and he celebrated perm with us and
that's so beautiful I and that you know
this is not some type of magical
mystical swirly take somewhere one day
over so I don't know why we're wakin to
Judaism now great of it there must be
some really interesting stories with
people of struggle were encountered
something and then just decided to take
a step well what are some other
interesting stories and reactions of
both people out of attended and maybe
some of the impact on hosts as well okay
I'll tell you two very that actually
three very fascinating stories one is it
quick when by Hurricane sandy
it was just alert for the Far Rockaway
neighborhood everyone should abandon
their homes leave their homes evacuate
because the water was expected to
overflow and there's going to be
flooding and is dangerous so there was a
radio show at that time knocking siedel
and every five minutes now consider that
get onto Shabbat come and find a place
for shelter and thousands of people from
the areas that end up being flooded in
the hurricane ended up finding place to
Shabbat come in the same vein when there
were fires in Haifa and just recently
last summer also fires in Israel people
wanted to schemata come they have to
evacuate and we put a special alert on
Shabbat calm anyone who is engaged with
the pliers exactly gone fish Martha calm
and we we asked the host to be even more
that's one amazing story that's pretty
interesting for a number of reasons not
to Lisa which is that shavon shavon is a
refuge it's an oasis in the week it's a
refuge and here you became that that's
actually that oasis for jews that were
displaced
exams that brought them home exactly
beautiful second story there is a a
feature on the site called a proximity
search where one person can you can say
I want to invite guests the Shabbat I
want to invite all guests within a
five-mile radius of my house or I want
to see all the guests that are available
so I do that once in a while just to
meet new people and I said show me
everyone is looking within five miles
and I randomly invited a lot of people
and there was this one young lady maybe
twenty twenty one who came answered then
she came to Shabbat and after lunch she
came over to me and she said who told
you to invite me
I said nobody really I mean I just did
have to be honest it was approximately
should search she said no no somebody
must have told you
really nobody why would you take that
she said well I'll tell you my story
I'm going through a very hard time my
father unfortunately is in prison
my mother is dysfunctional and very
clinically depressed and I have a
brother who unfortunately is struggling
with doing hard drugs and I've been
keeping the family afloat on myself and
it's been crushing me and I have decided
that this weekend I'm going to end it
I'm going to end my life suicide I can't
go on and then I got your invitation I
thought wow somebody cares so I accepted
and I figure okay
suicide can wait until Sunday so I
looked at her and I said are you having
a good time here she said very much so I
said are you going to do something to
yourself after Shabbat she says are you
gonna invite me again
I said if that's what it takes
absolutely yes what I want and not only
didn't she she became very close friends
my daughter she is now married with a
few kids of her own and an invitation at
the right time of course I shall knows
what he's doing but that limitation at
the perfect time is what literally saved
this young lady's life how about that
how about that
so obviously shabak income is much more
than just inviting people to have a
pleasant Sabbath meal and joint
experience it can be transforming in a
lot of ways and ways that you or anybody
else might never have anticipated
absolutely for example you had a
negative story about another woman who
had some serious difficulty in a marital
situation and somehow what you did
through Shabbat come was transforming
yeah it was it was a quite a remarkable
story we received a I received a phone
call after Shabbat once a fellow told me
the following story he said he was stuck
on the road I didn't know what to do
when he went out to Shabbat that comedy
found a place in a certain community and
the host ended up being the rabbi the
community it was on Friday night and he
saw the rabbi looked a little bit down
so he said to the rabbi is everything
okay I see you look a little bit sad but
the rabbi said that the situation in my
community there's a lady and she's been
in a goona for 15 years she hasn't been
able to get again from her husband and
it has very sad effect on the community
it's a very heavy situation
so this guests from Shabbat calm he said
can you tell me a little bit more who
what's the name of this lady and the
rabbi said her name and the guest said
no it sort of remarkable because I know
that lady I even remember her wedding
there was about 18 years ago I remember
I was at her wedding and I always
remember that wedding because there was
something strange in that wedding that
always stuck out in my mind and the
rabbi said what was it my man said you
know when they called up the witnesses
they ate him I knew one of the aadum I
know one of the women and I knew he
wasn't shomer Shabbat and I was a little
bit surprised that they called them up
as a witness to the wedding for the
condition at the rabbi nearly jump
out of the seats and said are you sure
he said yeah I'm quite sure after Shabab
they track down this witness he admitted
that at the time people thought he was
showing me Shabbat but not only wasn't
he had eaten a non kosher restaurant dad
Friday night they sent two letters one
to reveal Yasha one third of Avadh Yosef
and they received back to Juba that she
was never officially married
she is not my guna and she is allowed to
remarry immediately home free home free
after 15 years our world amazing story
and past only your life and your family
isn't even doing this for how many years
now it's been seven years now there was
Shabbat become almost at six I have
seven years
are you coming up on the shmita year
exchange about a country store event the
impact on you your wife your children
family what impact is it had on what I
didn't see on classical example it's a
great question I'm a Mormon Jewish
outreach and jewish outreach has the
ability to be very exhilarating but at
the same time a little bit depressing to
be honest i'll i'll explain to you why
there are so many jews that are
disconnected if you go onto a college
campus today there are nearly a half a
million Jews in the United States on
college campuses and a tiny tiny
fraction on are involved in anything
Jewish at all two of the largest
campuses in the world Gainesville and
Orlando seven thousand Jews each we
can't even get a minyan so you think
about our region and and and the
capacity for an outreach rabbi to touch
people in a way that's transformative
and most outreach rabbis
cannot reach more than perhaps a hundred
students on a real deep level so on a
campus with seven thousand Jewish
students when you just hit a hundred you
know that
6900 are not being touched and you begin
to question and wonder whether you're
building castles on the same
maybe it's hopeless and then when I
realized it's absolutely not hopeless
that in reality we just have to rethink
how we're going to reach people we were
given the blessing of a social network
which actually comes from the Gemara it
comes from the Gemara Mark Zuckerberg
did not think of of the concept of
social networking
it comes from the Gemara bukka's people
came over the column came over to David
ml and said David I'm Alec King David he
said I'm Clarissa Susan bonanza the
Jewish people need sustenance and he
answers back to who finest Izumi's ooh
go make a living from each other oh it's
an answer who else were they going to
make a living from well governor Malick
was really saying was you have your
sphere of influence your circle of
friends and that's limited to 20 or 30
or 40 and your friend has their sphere
of influence 20 30 40 and that that's
how many people you can reach but
imagine if you could tap in to my sphere
and I could tap into your sphere so then
we've just grown exponentially and
imagine if you could happen to everyone
from my sphere all of the sudden my
influence is not twenty thirty forty but
each of those friends who have twenty
thirty forty I can also reach an entity
stratosphere into the stratosphere a
dense social networking that's what mm
Elsa answer was you each have enough
people around you that you should be
able to make par NASA so social
networking genuinely works how did it
affect my family it gave us a much
larger mission we suddenly went global
it's no longer just about having 10
people for Shabbat it's about reaching a
hundred and 31 countries five thousand
cities ten thousand people a week and
not just for Shabbos Shabbat calm now
does matches matchmaking and we are
averaging a shilling a week that means
an engagement a week every week
some weeks are two engagements we have
jobs on the site you could actually say
I'm looking for a job to intern by a
lawyer show me every lawyer on the site
it'll show you a thousand lawyers select
all message all and you could send a
thousand people your resume like that
you can't do that in any site that
exists in the world certainly a great
impact not only for you but everybody
else would have come back with some
final remarks rather than see on Glasgow
but right now let's continue to take a
look at what we're going to be eating
here I'm here at the wolf and lamb on on
the table Jonathan would you tell us
what we're looking at over your is maybe
a later book we put the salad aside for
now okay that's another boy thank you
okay can you describe to us what this is
Jonathan get up we have a seductive this
walks like a doctor booklet but doesn't
look like a dunk anymore
that's where honey glazed duck breath
that the bonus customer side the chips
on top it's really good guys I mean
we've covered a lot they hit it it's the
only duck basically hassle people fight
a lot and this is great for a diet they
say hey I wrote a classic oh I heard
that you have a new initiative now for
Pesach or Passover that's coming up tell
us about that okay so the new initiative
is called seder calm and it's also the
Seder appids can be an app and a website
as EBE are and it's really powered by
Shabbat calm but it's a stripped-down
version and very Pesach centric so
uncommon screener there and how much
free absolutely and you can turn it on
when you're doing the Deacons coming
they're not coming for the holidays
besides no absolutely not
we always get the most requests before
Pesach and 93 percent of all Jews go to
a seder or have been to a seder
so it's really disheartening when you
don't have a seder to go to me and we
wanted to create a portal that a person
can go and without all of the bells and
whistles that Shabbat calm as which is
the social
working and the friending in the status
update just go on the app say find me a
seder and boom everyone near you who's
hosting on me a seder and and it'll go
right to it it goes right to it and we
hope that not only will people and it's
used in that state or calm to find the
Seder but it will teach them how easy it
is to interface through our technology
and then use it for Shabbat and
matchmaking in jobs and even total
partners which we have on the site as
well I didn't mention before we have
total partners ravager novellas tapes
lots going on and the portal could be
feted akka our next project and I'm
speaking to our audience here who's
who's listening in and interest in
materials right now we are only in
English and we're we're what's called
local local is great but if we really
want to be the powerhouse and to connect
the Jews in the four corners of the
earth it's imperative that we speak
their language that were in French for
the people in France and Russian and
geebo and Spanish and German it's
incredibly important currently we're
only in English and it's a big chunk of
technology not just translating but to
make the side flexible even right to
left left to right is a challenge in
terms of languages so we are currently
looking for somebody wants to sponsor
the language of their choice and I
always think to myself wow somebody
wanted to write a check for their own
Olam haba they would sponsor Hebrew
because you know how many soldiers end
up in ashrams in Tibet they end up in
Tahiti they're looking for a Shabbat and
maybe they find how bad maybe they don't
but they speak Hebrew we would be able
to take care of our men who just came
from Gaza our menu on the front lines in
the West Bank we'd be able to take care
of those people who had just spent time
serving Israel and now invite them
Shabbat showed them the honor that they
deserve those Jews who came from Russia
teach them about Shabbat so that's my
challenge to the listener languages it's
about two hundred and fifty thousand to
change from local to flexible and that
is how I how I think we're going to
change the world and speak to every Jew
regardless of where they're from and
what would you like every Jew to know
regardless where he issues from in terms
of the open invitation to participate
enchiladas come okay I would like every
Jewish person to realize that we are
people of cus it but we have to know
that we can't just talk the talk and
it's great to say well it's a good thing
to do asking of us often but not for me
not for my family not for my kids I'll
finish with the words of a very very
smart rabbi and Israeli Alaska and he
used to say that in it by the time of
the goal was a very end of time the
great challenge will be Ishmael not ASA
you smell Islam but he said not because
of suicide bombers and advocates of Isis
but actually because they're fighting a
spiritual war with us they say what do
you have over us you fast on Yom Kippur
we fast a whole month of Ramadan you eat
meat that is Schachter that's quarter
wheat how your women are theistic their
modest or even more modest you do
circumcision we do circumcision you pray
that we found that we pray five times a
day and all of the sudden our spiritual
chops get pulled away not because what
they're doing is correct but it's
because it gives they accusing angel the
ability to say the Jewish people aren't
as special as you think but we turn back
and we say you know we are with the
B'nai Avram with the children of Aram
and we invite guests like I've loved it
and they ever say well so do we
and this
must be able to say we do it better we
do it the way our drum are being and
wanted us to do it and it will be -
ourselves Arkham that gives us that
validity and that credibility to say
that we are the children of our drum
bring the Guru love bring mashiac the
final gulls will will end when we open
up our hearts and invite people and
schemata combi it's very easy to
download if you have a smartphone just
download it it's very safe all the fuses
are gone let's do it let's create a
world of love and test it it sounds like
you're a major player in doing I want to
thank you a little soon class don't care
and thanks for joining me here on on the
table and thanks for joining us here on
the de bruit paregoric i put on the
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