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I have a feeling the average American
doctor is satisfied with a successful
practice making a difference in people's
lives and that's an amazing
accomplishment. But every once in a
while, we meet somebody who is not
satisfied just making the difference in
one person's life or one practice's
life, but somebody who built out a
medical practice that has hundreds and
thousands of people working for him and
impacting hundreds of thousands of
people across the tri-state area. And if
you think that's enough, you have to
hear what he's done to help the greater
Jewish community. From putting sick
people on planes to literally going down
to the south of Israel on October 7th,
the story of Avisha Newman is
fascinating. This week on Jewish Grit.
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Welcome to Jewish Grit. This week we
have a fascinating guest and I think if
I'm not mistaken we've interviewed
dozens of people and we've never had a
doctor and which is so strange because
half of the Jewish people are doctors.
So Avisha Newman, Dr. Avisha Newman,
welcome to the podcast. Thank you so
much for coming in.
>> Thanks for having me.
>> Avishi, it's it's nice to get the
perspective of a medical professional.
It's even nicer, I think, to get the
perspective of somebody who has a
broader perspective on the medical
profession as somebody who has, you
know, practice that's in four different
states. Um, take us into your world a
little bit. Uh, talk to us a little bit
about what type of doctor you are, what
you're doing. Tell us a drop about your
journey.
>> So, I grew up in Queens, Jamaica States.
That's where I uh
>> That's in New York, right?
>> That's in New York. Okay.
>> Um, Donald Trump is from Queens. Okay.
Just for the record. From Jamaica
States.
>> From Queens. I went to high school in
MTA University for those that uh are
familiar know. Uh from there I went to
yeshiva spent two years in Israel. Came
back and was in Queens College while I
was doing Yeshiva or which is also in
Queens. Uh from there I went to medical
school in Israel. Spent four years in
Tel Aviv at Sackler.
>> Did you live in Tel Aviv?
>> Lived in North Tel Aviv. Yeah.
>> Wow. Nice. It was
>> How's your Hebrew?
>> Great experience. Pretty good.
>> Okay. Were the classes in Hebrew?
>> Classes were all in English. This is a
New York State American program that was
founded 1976. And uh after four years in
Israel, I came back, I did my residency.
I did internal medicine for a year at my
monities and then three years at uh
Sunni downstate for anesthesia. And then
I went into private practice. Um I spent
uh my first seven years also as an
attending at uh New York Presbyterian of
Queens mainly doing labor and delivery
anesthesia and at the same time I
started my own practice centurion
anesthesia which uh focuses exclusively
on ambulatory and office based
anesthesia and today our practice uh
like you said is in four states
primarily four states we are probably
the largest anesthesia group ambulatory
and office-based anesthesia group
definitely in New York, New Jersey and
uh let's see you where where we're going
to go from here, but uh it's it's a
practice that encompasses surgery
centers, offices. We work with a lot of
the major hospitals here in New York
City, NYU, Mount Sinai, New York
Presbyterian. We work with HHC, which is
the New York City Health and Hospital uh
system during COVID. And uh we take care
of, you know, north of I would say
180,000 patients per year across our
entire practice.
>> And you're preventing each of those
people from having pain. That's
meaningful.
>> That's very meaningful. I mean, it's
more I would say more than that, but
yeah, we're making sure that they wake
up at the end of their surgery
>> or that their baby comes into the world.
>> That their baby comes into the world.
Yeah. So, we do all uh or yeah, creating
we we work with uh fertility
specialists. We do anesthesia for
thousands of patients that are
undergoing fertility treatments every
year as well as pain management
procedures, general surgery, orthopedic
surgery, eye surgery. How often do you
take a step back and focus on the fact
that you're helping people versus
running a massive company?
>> The one thing that keeps me up at night
is everyone going to wake up at the end
of their surgery and go home in a safe
way. So you cannot take that for granted
and it's something that's even though
we're running a big company and it's a
today a business uh practice of medicine
is unfortunately in many ways you know
become a business in in many respects
but uh I'm very thankful that I have the
opportunity to to be helping people
every day.
>> I know another thing about your medical
practice which I don't think we've
either had anyone that does this. You
are a card carrying member of Hatsala.
>> Yes. Could you share with the broader
world what Hatsala is?
>> So, Hatsella is the largest volunteer
ambulance organization probably on the
on the face of the earth. Um, there are
branches in all major Jewish uh
epicenters, cities across the United
States, Europe, South Africa, Australia,
and in Israel. So, it's a great story.
Back about 50 years ago, um, Rab Hershel
Weber, I believe, was the founder of
Hatsella, was walking across the street
with his friend who, uh, clutched his
chest and was having chest pain. They
called 911. Took about 20 to 30 minutes
for the ambulance to arrive. And by the
time they arrived, that friend of his
passed away. And he said, "This is
unacceptable." That in New York City, it
takes 20 minutes or 30 minutes for
emergency personnel to arrive. And so he
went out, got himself a oxygen tank and
you know told the neighbors, friends,
family that if you ever have any chest
pain and you need some oxygen, call me
and I'll come running over. And then
slowly, you know, other people said
that's a great idea. And uh not not long
after they formed and formalized
Hatsala. They uh trained a number of
EMTs. They decided that it didn't make
sense to have the equipment just sitting
on ambulances and the ambulances parked
wherever they are. The emergency could
be anywhere and they uh decided that the
best way was going to be for each member
to carry equipment in their car and in
that way have the fastest response time.
Today a seller's response time probably
is the fastest anywhere in the world.
Fast response time especially if
somebody's you know found on the floor
is critical and those minutes are
life-saving minutes.
>> So forget a moment about the anesthesia.
You're literally saving lives all the
time.
>> So, we're we're doing that. And then the
other thing I think you uh I'm not sure
if you're familiar with Hutsala Air.
>> Sure. But why don't you share what it
is?
>> Yeah. So, Hutzala Air is another
division of Hutzala that uh is the
aviation arm and uh about I want to say
seven years ago, I had the privilege of
starting that organization with my good
friend Ellie Row and we started Hatal
Air in 2019. We had one plane that was
uh donated to us. We started doing
emergency flights for people that were
in need.
>> What does that mean? Like why would a
person need an airplane?
>> So, you know, you're you're vacationing
in the Caribbean and unfortunately you
have an accident, a car accident or a
medical emergency and you end up in a
clinic that is not capable of treating
you, taking care of you, and you need to
get out of there quickly. What are you
going to do? You don't have
on on the ground over there. you don't
even have, you know, let's just call it
a first world style hospital that you're
accustomed to. You can imagine going
into an emergency room and they just
don't have the medication that they need
in order to treat you. So, Hutzella Air
was was born out of necessity to, you
know, recognizing that today it's a
global world and people are going all
over the place. Even within the United
States, there are certain hospitals,
specialty centers that you can get
specific treatment that you can't get
anywhere else. I mean, we fly patients
from New York City to the Cleveland
Clinic. And you'll say, "Well, they're,
you know,
>> Cleveland, six major medical centers, if
not more, within the New York New York
City area. Forget about, you know, the
New York metropolitan area. You go down
to Philly, you've got CHOP, up to Yale
in New Haven, but we still
[clears throat] fly specialty patients
to the Cleveland Clinic, to Cincinnati
Children's Hospital, to the Mayo Clinic,
um, to Houston, Texas. you know, there's
an entire uh you know, cancer center
over there. And when it comes to Boston,
it comes to specialty situations, you
may not be in the right place even
though you're in, you know, the biggest
city in the world right now
>> everything is free when you guys get a
call and you take them on an ambulance.
Is it free to go on the plane also?
>> For an emergency, it's free.
>> Wow.
>> In other words, like if somebody's in a
bad situation, they were in a car
accident and there we'll go there and
we'll get them for free. Um when it
comes to transfers, you know, we either
charge insurance or have sponsors or the
patients themselves have to pay like any
Hutzella would. In other words, when you
call Hutzella, if you're asking them to
take you from, you know, hospital A to
hospital B, they're you know, that's not
their that's not their job, their role.
Um when you're having a heart attack,
they'll take you to the closest
hospital. So, it's the same idea.
>> Are you the pilot or you just accompany
people?
>> No, no. I take care of the patients in
the back. There are people that fly the
plane and then we we make sure that they
get from point A to point B safely.
>> At 35,000 ft, is the type of care that
you need to provide different than on
the ground?
>> It is different in the sense that
there's nobody helping you at 35,000 ft.
There's no backup. You can't pull over
on the side of the road to the next
closest hospital. You can land, but it
doesn't always happen right away. you
have to be able to manage and deal with
whatever situation is at hand for the
next foreseeable future versus if
you're, you know, in an ambulance on the
ground. Even if you're driving, let's
just say between Lakewood and and
Philadelphia, you may have one or two
stops along the way that allow you to
get a higher level of care and in the
air you are the highest level of care.
Uh we recently flew a patient around the
world. There was one of the um injured
uh Isra actually Israeli in Bondai Beach
at the Bondai Beach terrorist attack
that rushed the terrorist and was shot
and almost uh bled to death. Uh was
taken to an Australian hospital. They
saved his life and he needed extensive
rehabilitation. And when he was stable
enough, they asked us to come get him
and fly him back to Israel, which we
did. We flew around the world to
Australia, picked up the uh the patient
uh really a hero and flew him back to
Israel through uh through Bangkok,
Thailand.
>> It was a literally around the world
mission to save, you know, save a life.
>> What does it say if you save one life?
It's you save the whole world.
>> Save the whole world. Yeah.
>> Avisha, how do you balance like a very
extensive professional career and flying
around the world? Because you just take
two days off to to go to Australia and
it's the best thing, don't get me wrong,
keep doing it. But like what happens to
everything else?
>> You know, you said balance. I think
balance is the key to life.
>> Mhm.
>> So, you know, I say work hard, play
harder,
>> but you have to have balance. Um there
are certain missions that you clear your
schedule for. When you're involved in so
many different things, you know, they
say if if you're if you want to get
something done, give it to someone
that's busy. If you're in that mindset,
if you're in that cadence of doing, then
you'll figure it out.
>> If you're um radio oneoff right now,
would you run out and take that
silicone? Uh if it was here, yeah, I'm
sorry I would pause the podcast. I'd be
gone and come back. We'd finish it up.
>> We would be happy if you got there to
save a life. So, thank God you've had a
a career where you're providing
assistance to other people and then you
were able to really take that and scale
it in a substantial way, but I'm sure
that it wasn't all smooth sailing and
that there were some peaks and there
were some valleys. take us into a moment
in your personal or professional life
where all of a sudden it didn't follow
the narrative and you find yourself in
in a difficult spot and you need to grit
your teeth and climb out.
>> When I was finishing my residency at
Downstate, I would say that that the
majority of doctors graduating
residency, if they weren't going on to a
fellowship, were looking to get a job in
generally a hospital setting or a
hospital-based practice. And at the time
the thinking was get into a practice
that's stable into a partnership track.
You'll work really, really hard for a
couple of years and then you'll get to
become a partner within the group and at
that point you're quote unquote set
because at the time most anesthesia
practices were were you know partnership
model practices so that if you worked
really hard and you became a partner you
did really nicely professionally and and
financially. And it was I want to say
that that was pretty much you know for a
resident looking forward you know you're
you're 30 32 33 years old finishing
training after 12 years that's the
golden goose right
>> I started interviewing at a bunch of uh
different prospective jobs and they said
well you know if you're going to keep
shabas if you're not going to work on
Friday night and Saturday night then we
can't put you into a partnership track
and the reason is because you're not
doing what everyone else is doing.
>> And so I said to myself, I mean, listen,
I get to determine my own schedule at
this point. You know, for the last 12
years, everyone was telling me when to
come, when to go, when I can eat when I
can't eat. Now I'm finally, you know, a
little bit in control of of my schedule
and how I'm going to work and my work
life balance. And so I decided I wasn't
going to do it. I wasn't going to try
to, you know, fall into a situation that
was going to force me to work on Chabas.
And when I look back at that, um, you
know, the the group that I ended up
going to work for, they said, you know,
we we're going to put you in a position.
You'll be, you know, a regular
anesthesiologist in the hospital, not
you're not on the partnership track. I
said, no problem. I'll start my own
practice. And they looked at me and they
laughed and they said, yeah, good luck.
And, uh, that's actually what I did. And
so I when I look back on on those years,
I say, you know, I protected Chavez and
now Chavez is protecting me. And I'm
sure that as a person who has so many
things going on in their life, Shabas
still continues to gift you.
>> As I get older and as we get busier and
I could use 26 hours in the day right
now, Shabas is the best part of the week
by far. You know, it's it's it's it's
the the bookends of the beginning of
Shabas and the end of Shabas are just I
don't know how I would do it. You know,
turning off your phone, turning off
everything external and being able to
connect with your family, with your
kids, with your grandkids,
>> with yourself. with yourself
uh is you know being able to sleep which
is nice.
>> Oh my gosh that if so for someone who
doesn't keep shabas they will never
experience the beauty of a shabas
afternoon nap. Yeah,
>> it
>> it's so qualitatively amazing. You know,
>> even, you know, it's interesting. Uh
Charlie Kirk was fascinated and I think
you even wrote a book. Correct.
>> So I think I think there, you know,
people are starting to see the value and
realize how important it is, how
important it is to disconnect, you know,
take time for yourself, to take time to
recharge, to regroup, to to think.
>> Where does the rest of your family fit
into your narrative? because residency
is grueling and then having your own
practice and working in another practice
and then all of a sudden exploding and
hatal and hatal air, you know, I'm sure
the rest of the Newman family is really
sweet, but like where do they come into
your world?
>> So, they get a lot of credit. My wife
gets the most credit for putting up with
me as do my my children. But that's
that's sort of the beauty of Shabas.
Shabas has always dedicated time to the
family. And for for many years, I also
would not work on Sunday. So even though
I would work three nights and five days
a week, I was not working shave and
Sunday, I I always try to make it a
point to be home for the majority of the
day and not pick up extra shifts or work
in the hospital even though there was
the opportunity to do so. And it was
lucrative. And you know, come in on the
weekend, you're taking over for
somebody. Um, you need to, you know,
create family time. And I think what
I've done over the years and what I've
modeled is there are periods of intense
work, but also periods of intense
focusing on the family and being with
them and all and going away with them.
And if you work really hard, it's
important to play really hard because
then you throw your balance off. It
comes right back to, you know, balance
is is really the key to life.
>> You did four years of of medical school
in Israel. Do you still have deep roots
in Israel? Do you go back there often?
What's your connection?
>> We Yeah, I still have deep roots. My
entire family is there. I've got four
siblings and my mom that all live in
Israel.
>> Oh wow.
>> And uh we're always there every year.
Suck as we're in Israel and we've been
doing that since I was in medical
school.
>> Were you there on October 7th?
>> I was there on October 7th. Yeah.
>> Was that like it was it was
>> it was crazy as as anyone, you know, can
imagine, anyone who was there saw. We
sort of knew what was going on in the
morning. I had my phone on me, but I
didn't take it out. The morning of
October 7th, I was walking with uh my
good friend Yako of Gay past the US
consulate and the guard there was
getting off his shift and he took out
his phone and he showed us what was
going on. We still really hadn't grasped
what was going on. Um and about midway
through the day, uh there was a neighbor
with a TV on and I saw what was going
on. And once we realized, you know, what
kind of crazy situation this was, I uh
reached out to my um colleagues at Main
DevO and they picked me up two o'clock
on October 7th in Jerusalem and we drove
straight down to Beva to start
evacuating injured and uh wounded
patients.
>> So you you literally got people straight
off of October.
>> Yeah. The the craziness.
>> Yeah. We were transferring patients
between hospitals which was extremely
important because the hospitals were
completely overrun and so in order to
you know there there were critical
patients and then there were let's just
call them critical but stable patients.
So anyone that was critical but stable
we moved out of uh out of Bereva out of
Soka and brought them to Adasa and we
spent uh the next three days doing that
and then uh I got an emergency license.
They actually needed anesthesiologists
um in Israel and ICU specialists and
[snorts] uh the Wednesday after October
7th they brought me to Barzili which is
the hospital in Ashkalone closest to
Gaza and uh gave me a temporary license
gave me a tour of the hospital pair of
scrubs and said go to work.
>> I spent the next two months there um in
Barzili.
>> What happened to your practice here?
I've got an amazing team of uh other
anesthesiologists and infrastructure
people that were able to hold down the
fort and keep the practice running
smoothly. And I was fortunate for them,
you know, to be able to to let me, you
know, have that experience to everybody
wanted to help. There were so many
people, so many doctors calling asking
how do we do but not everybody had the
opportunity happened to be in the right
place at the right time. That was what
what the next two months after October
7th look like.
>> What makes you most proud to be a Jew?
>> I think you know the value system that
we grow up with. Somebody somebody
pointed out to me during this war now
between Iran, Israel, the United States.
You know what a what's a rescue flight?
A rescue flight is taking Israelis back
to Israel. Yeah. [laughter]
So counterintuitive flights go into war
zones. You I'll tell you what, rescue
flights going to war zones when people,
you know, have such a connection to the
land and to their brothers that they're
running into the battle. That's I mean
that's the Jewish people. I'm going to
give you 90 seconds or more if you need
it to address our 70,000 plus students
and young professionals.
You're a bunch of years ahead of them to
put it mildly. and brother Hashem, God
has blessed you with beautiful family,
professional success, ability to give
back to others. What would you like to
tell them? They're just starting. They
have wide open eyes and lots of optimism
and maybe a little apprehension. What
What message would you would you love to
share?
>> When you're just starting out, there's
this kind of need for like killing it
right away. You know, today it's not
cool to be a doctor. if you're in
finance now you're now you're talking
but back then it was actually and I
think part of the reason that it was
more respected to be a physician or to
be a dentist or to be a lawyer somebody
that had to spend time kind of going
through the process and going through
school is because people saw what it
took for people to go from point A to
point B. It wasn't always overnight. It
wasn't over a year or two years.
Sometimes it I mean I didn't start
working till I was 32. And I think that
you know talking to younger people who
are going into whatever profession
they're going to go into, it's important
to remind them that success takes time.
It doesn't always happen right away. And
just because it doesn't always happen
right away doesn't mean you pivot and go
to something else. I think focus is
tremendous. You got to focus on whatever
it is that you're going after and just
kind of put your head down and keep
doing it. When I started practicing and
we had a little bit of success, I
started getting into other, you know,
distractions. Um, and we I opened up a
sleep center. I bought a pain management
practice. I had this whole idea that I
was going to have this, you know, just
multiple different things going on under
one banner. And it took a few years to
realize that that was not me. I just
needed to do what I knew how to do
really, really, really well. And I told
uh, you know, my colleagues, my
physicians, the people that I work with,
we're not going to be the first one to
the top of the mountain, but at the end
of the day, we may be the only ones
standing there.
>> Nice.
>> And that's how, you know, I refocused. I
got rid of all these other practices
that were dragging me down. they were
taking away my attention from what I
really knew how to do well and
refocused, re-energized and doubled down
and doubled down again, reinvested in
our our in our group and our company and
ourselves. And I think that is the
message that you know you are your
greatest asset. You got to invest in
yourself and whether that means you know
more years in school or more years
working not looking for you know for the
immediate kill that is what you know
will get you to top of the mountain.
>> Dr. Avisha Newman this has been really
interesting fascinating and I guess the
best way to to end this is by wishing
you continued success
>> and the ability to adapt to pivot to
grow and most importantly to keep
helping others. Appreciate it.
>> Really appreciate your time. Thank you.
>> Thank you so much.
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