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Nusach Ashkenaz in Sephardi Texts by Rabbi Dr. Ahron Adler
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Delivered 17 Adar I 5784 / February 26, 2024 Rabbi Adler's Series for the Year 2024 has been dedicatedL'Ilui Nishmat Elisheva Sima bat Zalman www.ouisrael.org facebook.com/ouisrael #OUisrael #torah #judaism #torahlectures #nusach #sefardic #ashkenaz #nusach #siddur #daven #prayer
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as usual this year is
sponsored in memory of
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and today in particular 10th y site of
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this is the great question it was and it
was there you go so you avoided your
father was probably somebody who avoided
M there there you go
see they say a story of a gentleman who
comes to sh and he put on a talit and he
s that was a lot of kavana but he never
put on so somebody walks over with him
why don't you wearin he says I heard of
M between rash and ra and my father told
me before he died don't get embroiled in
any m
good yeah yeah yeah
yeah last week we dealt with the issue
of censorship in rinic writings I
mentioned that this is a story of talmud
B it's a story of mishna it's a story of
rambam it's a story of the sidur um we
had trouble in Europe uh as if today we
don't have any trouble with anybody we
had trouble with EUR in Europe with
Christianity who um was engaged in
forced uh conversions forc
baptisms we talk about the Spanish
Inquisition of
1492 so um people think that there was a
mass Exodus from Spain and that was not
the case over 60% of Spanish jury opted
to baptize and and they were safe was as
simple as that last June when I took the
my first only trip to Spain um and we
saw um personalities we we met up with
personalities in the cemeteries and
other places in certain locations of
ranim who baptized who who were were
known figures I mean we not household
names in terms of the ramam and the
ramban and the rashba but nevertheless
ronam who was significant personalities
and they went over to the other side so
we're not talking about um a meager few
uh somehow another when one projects
from the 15th century to the 20th
century that the expansion of Spanish
jewelry I'm talking about Spanish not
North African not um Iraqi but just
Spanish jewelry per se we know that the
overall growth was was Mi minimal was
really minimal and that was because most
of the Jews um actually baptized and
from the 40% who didn't baptize um some
actually did baptize they became moros
and underground they kept some semblance
of of yish of yut many of them
ultimately never came back some did come
back at certain turns of their lives or
family life and there are some who are
moros until this very day they don't I
mean they're not called moros anymore
but they're descendants of moros I
believe that the president of Portugal
is a descendant of a Morano family the
um the the idea of growing up and dying
a KES hasem was not something that was
cultivated into the uh children's hearts
and Minds as opposed to uh ashkenas in
Europe there was also a threat of
baptism all over within the Crusades
except there the Jewish people opted to
Die Al
kesem um I had a professor at y
University Professor Aus who had certain
statistics I know that you have to be
careful with Statistics I think it was
Mark quain who said There three levels
of liars there's a liar there's a bigger
liar and then the statisticians those
who talk about statistics because
statistics has to do with how you wrote
the write the question in the in the in
the in the form when you ask people to
fill out a form for statistical
information but nevertheless there's a
certain uh gauge here we can use of
communal books kilal of names and um you
can somehow figure out roughly speaking
what the population was in a certain era
um and we talk about the the year 800
both in Spain as well as in ashkanazy
and ashkenaz is Germany and northern
France southern France has a different
history that's called pons but in
northern France Ash pure ashkenaz jury
and S and Spain and you take the year
800 and you get an idea of how many Jews
there were at that point in Spain how
many Jews were in ashkenaz and then take
the same statistics uh and here it's
going to be more accurate how many were
in Europe and how many in ashkenaz and
how many were in Spain and um to
determine the success of a national
group you have to see check the what was
and how many there are now you can see
how the growth is working so just as a
point of comparison um this professor
used Britain and France so he said if
you take the Brits of 800 and compare it
to 1939 they were um uh 60 times greater
the number whatever it was whatever X
was at a year 800 it was 60 times
greater in 1939 and I say 39 before the
showah because that obviously upsets the
whole statistics and if you take the FRS
Franks who become the French people it
was times 40 whatever the X was at year
800 at 1939 it was times 40 Spanish
jewelry whatever the X was at year 800
it was time 4 it grew four times and
that's it four times of course the only
explanation to that is that most of
Spanish jewy either baptized and they
were lost to the people so no longer and
including add on the miranos and of
course then the expulsion and those were
killed so you don't have that many
Spanish Jews who actually survive as
Spanish Jews per se in 1939 as ashkenaz
the the the here we have numbers that
there were about 5,000 ashkanazi Jews in
the year 800 and there 12 million
in
1939 that means it grew 2,000 times so
Spanish jewelry grew four times the same
equivalent time framework ashkanazi Jews
grew 2,000 times and the uh conclusion
of this professor was that even though
you think this is like like weird that
you have so many people who were
murdered in in in the Crusades and on
the in the Crusades of course and the
various other prrams throughout the ages
before the Shah nevertheless the growth
of Amel in this area was absolutely
astonishing and it went Way Beyond
nothing even close to the Brits and the
Franks who had great numbers 60 40 this
was times 2,000 it was unbelievable and
somehow the the the uh inculcation of
Kes Hashem was such on the levels of uh
even children that they understood that
you die for Kem as simple as that and
there was no baptism very little very
little baptism at the time I think the
only time there there was some a major
problem of Jewish people who were
baptized and that's when uh children
were given over um in 1939 40 to um
non-jewish families Christian Catholic
families in Poland um for safekeeping uh
just yesterday I was at a Shiva and I
heard about a story of a mother somebody
was Sting shiv for her mother an aged
mother who at age 14 was put in the
convent and she kind of liked it she was
given good accommodations and so on and
it was very difficult to convince her
after the war to come back to the to to
Jewish people even though she had no
family but there were people other
extended family willing to to take her
in uh here in in in Israel then it was
Palestine but um it not so simple not so
simple and of course most famous One
became the Cardinal of of of Paris right
liser so this was a big issue of heritag
zal he ran around to various convents
was saying is to see if he got a a
twitch from somebody um so so this was a
big issue um with with Christianity now
what happened was the the the church
would actually take people who did
baptize who were Mish and bring them to
Vatican and as they ransack Jewish
communities and took Jewish Sim
manuscripts and later print to uh to the
Vatican so these Jews they were
essentially but now they're they're
baptized um and and and they they're
trying to underline and highlight those
problematic sections or lines or words
that would insult the church and that
would be uh an invitation for another
program so we had no other recourse but
to internally censor some of our
material so if you take for
example I grew up with a sther in the
United States you know nice sther Hebrew
Publishing Company remember that one
from 1913 1918 whatever the beer and
bound sit and one beautiful that right
in the archives and no uses them hardly
a so
there they ask every kid who got
up doesn't fit in with the
they bar down to to nothing and and
so this was not part of the s for
hundreds of years in ashaz the all had
it because there was no problem of
Christianity in North Africa and in
Yemen so there was no need to censor
anything but here in Earth Isel finally
we can be free if you anybody read the
R's great
speech was speech at y University 1956
where he talks about hearing God's
knocking c f six times and one of them
was the theological knock says the
establishment of state of Israel was a
real thorn in Christian theology because
they they belied that even if you have a
uh benign uh type of uh relationship
with the Jewish people and not
aggressive and not out to kill them and
to to to to create the lowest status
civil status for them as was done
throughout Jewish history but
nevertheless they in Eternal damnation
the Jewish people will never return home
they'll be in galut forever and that's
was the last line of defense of the
Catholic church and all of a sudden
comes the state of Israel and shatters
it literally shatters it and that's why
until 1992 the Catholic church and the
Vatican did not have is diplomatic ties
with Israel and the only thing that
changed it was the was H 1992 was the
Oslo agreements and that's already a
political speech why the Catholic Church
it wasn't that they did chuva believe me
they had nothing to do with that at all
it just had to be on the right side of
the table in order to negotiate for the
future status of
but um the the the idea that here in ER
we can put everything back so in the sud
was put back in America they still
printed with brackets so you know some
people you know if they're not
comfortable with it you know so I know
that parenthesis means take out brackets
actually means put in and that's what
the principles were doing they were
saying put this in so why didn't they
just put it in without the brackets
because they realized that there was s
that didn't have it so they put it in
such a manner that you should
insert you're speaking you're you're
praying to a god that's not going to
help you the um but here all the are
just printed properly and correctly you
take so I have a book home it's
called that which is missing from the
printed Shas VNA what's missing from the
printer CH Villa all the um the the the
deletions because of the internal sensor
so you have all kinds of M about
yes so that's not a good thing to have a
medish about yesu in in the they took it
out sometimes they didn't take it out
they simply took the ud and changed it
to an and now it
reads fromin and that's as oh asov
that's that's okay that's a fair game to
talk about as and there are m in the end
of about as so so who's ASA we know who
ASA there was an oral tradition who ASA
ASA is you know the the the the pastor
the the the the the the the priest down
the block you know that's ASA and so on
but but we never printed yesu anymore
there's even a very important section in
the rambam the end of the 11th chapter
of the laws of
monarchy that's been entirely censored
out um there the rambam actually has a
type of good word to say about both
Christianity and Islam he says that
Christianity and Islam moved the the uh
Gentile World from Pure
paganism to Pure monotheism in stages
say I'm Israel does it overnight at har
where we were B Noah before har and now
we're you know Believers
of but the nations of the world it
actually takes some time so the raham
says Christianity
slower than Islam Islam is is is
monotheism the rahan believes that it's
a monotheistic religion obviously
the Islam is not Judaism uh they did
they did a lot of Corruptions in in
their understanding of Judaism one being
that Muhammad is a prophet obviously
that's Nish from our point of view so
the so that's Islam but it's
monotheistic but Christianity not
according to the rambam not yet
monotheistic Rah believes that the
Trinity the father son hold
ghostes means that there's a split in in
in terms of the understanding of
divinity and according to Ram that's
already smells from idolatry it's not
pure idolatry R agrees it's not pure
idolatry it's something and it's in the
right direction he said because the says
and this probably the most famous in
all because we have one foot out already
there some people
call because you have one foot
out
one day God's going to be acclaimed by
all so Rah says the Islam and the
Christianity they're going to come
around but in the meantime they didn't
come around yet so it it it's it's on
the one hand complimentary some people
think a little bit too complimentary the
ramam went a little bit too far I mean
he even says that I mean we suffered
from Islam and Christianity so but let's
just try to be objective for a second
put all that suffering and pain on the
side and let's just talk a moment
objectively uh that he says is a half a
good word about Christianity and and
Islam um but it wasn't good enough that
would fear that that that Christianity
is not good enough it's not even as good
as the Islam let's get it out of the
text so it just wasn't there so most
people who own a standard rambam and I
talk about standard rambam today a
standard rambam is the photo offset of
the villara print of the rambam which
was censored and and I say 95% of people
people in I'm the world who own a set of
rambam have such a set of rambam 5% have
invested in either the shap Frankle
Edition ra kak's Edition
Rao's Edition ra shilat Edition there
all kinds of new updated editions even
the rambam laam which is a popular
version of rambam here in Earth Israel
they already put it back in because they
here in Med Israel we figured out that
they were deletions how did we figure it
out raap brings a schlep of of
manuscripts from Yemen and he says hey
guess what you're missing 16 lines here
you know from the from the missionary of
the rambam let's put it back in and
already in the ram they put it back in
and all the others put it back in and
all the other comparisons to rambam we
discovered in 1956 we discovered a whole
manuscript of that that the rambam
himself edits of the first two of the 14
books of Mishra as if he had nothing
else to do in life they send him from
kalab from
Aleppo an envelope you know a of a whole
package and he's willing to sit down and
go over word by word and make
Corrections and sign it with a date and
that you you want to see it take a trip
to Cambridge oh you don't have to go to
P Cambridge just get online you'll see
it you can see it my machine you know
you know you're going into the freedberg
Gena project and you get to see it you
don't have to travel anymore to
Cambridge uh even though I wouldn't mind
seeing it actually they had the I saw a
part of it by the way there was exhibit
it closes this Thursday if you want to
rush you have to get to the isiv
university exhibit this coming Thursday
was supposed to close the end of
December because of its popularity they
did a rambam exhibit in the U in the Yu
Museum and they extended it for two
months so they said that's it February
29th it's closing so and they brought
over some of the rambam's writings so
part of this rambam from this Edition
that I'm talking about was actually
there so and I saw this exhibit twice in
the last year so um you can get your F
you get you can see it so from these
manuscripts we can now update the Sid
and update the G and update the Rams I
mean it's it's just unbelievable the r
wrote in
the so we know that's an
add-on instituted 18 of and it became a
generic name even if you D on Shabbat
where only seven BR we call iton like
you take a Kleenex and you know it can
be not a Kleenex but it's a tissue you
call it a Kleenex or drink Cola and call
it Coke I mean that's the way we are you
use sometimes genetic frigid remember
frigid I mean frider is a name of a
brand so instead of you know struggling
to say the word refrigerator it's a long
word so you say friger you know
fridge so so the the ramb
said that was the
original those who converted it was the
early it was against the early Hebrew
Christians some had the phrase minim
used the word minim already and it could
be that the word minim may have already
been a sensed word but okay it's it's
pretty authoritative going all the way
back all the manuscripts have minim and
they call the early Hebrew Christians
the minim so but then it was changed to
malim malim means people who who snitch
on others but that was done to to
somewhow sanitize the word mishad
that's all and it was taken out but the
rah's view words in the Mish in the
manuscript
is that whole went through its more more
changes in than any other in all
of because of the problem of censorship
so here and there this word was taken
out this word was changed and so on but
a as a corollary to this problem of
censorship
how do we say in in
kadon
um in kadon we have
um now before that
is
I had a guy in my
schor B okay and everybody used to go
B with fear with
with this is theal bodies what does it
mean
what does that mean let's translate
it these these celestial bodies give off
the shine and the
radiance they give light to the whole
world they themselves as if this is a
cabalistic idea that the social bodies
have a that they they themselves are
joyful that that they're able to do
the the will
of the will of their creator okay their
creator in singular Creator why do I say
this because konam is a
um it it's actually a correction of the
um censorship what was the original
wordon
conem now what does Kem mean the um we
have it in the S but Kell done it just
once a week in for Shabbat but
uh there are certain that have replaced
the word
with going back to the
original and so too
in and in some it
says what what is the difference between
K
and pay
attention is there AUD or is there
no he or V
what's the
difference what's the difference between
K and K there's no difference in
pronunciation if there's no yud it means
their creator why is it their H because
you're talking about several celestial
bodies you're talking about the sun and
the moon and the stars but who is the
creator is one so it's without a it
means
there
or let's say in
theem Kem is um their creator with
singular their creator with singular if
it has
a it means they
creators one second how many creators
are there how many creators are there so
R Daniela R Professor danela who is aan
Isel he's a Rob in and I mean he's a
retired rabbi already but he was a great
professor at Baran University for many
years and specializing in the area of
the development of minhag Israel he
published eight volumes on the subject
uh on minhag Israel and he put out a
book in English about the lurgical
changes in this
and he has a chapter there about
censorship and he uses as an example
this business of Kem and he takes us
back to the
first and there I believe I mentioned
this the beginning of the year last week
where it
says that's page out ofu
from where there it
says just took that
but it's the same
idea and then comes another page out
of right out
of page out
ofu but the
K gave the people the great in Europe
trouble why because there was a medish
that said on
K that it reflected upon AB ainu that
aad was so happy with AB ainu that he
makes AR ainu a partner in the reason
that the world was created and therefore
arah ainu has shares in the stock market
sense shares in the created world so
kesa in the mid and
that
ISU which means it's least suggestive
that there are more than one Creator
there are creators and this already
plays into Christian thought of the
Trinity you know why are you telling us
a story one God you also believe in the
visibility of a we say it's a and it's
yes you say it's and it's I mean what's
the difference just the name changed
that's all but the theological
implication of the visibility of God it
was very troubling so they took
the and they replaced it
with first of all the was thrown in
there as a decoy that they changed the
K and it became k k means God owns
everything so he is
the in singular he's the one who does
meets out the
and he owns everything fine and that's
how we say it but the phrase
K remained in two locations in the s
that apparently was not problematic
because the sensors didn't always come
to sh Friday night to the Christians
rather the the those who were going to
snitch probably never came Friday night
to daving so they never heard they never
heard that in
the we have like a
after on Friday night so there
is before we
say it's a so so that's still there and
as I mentioned last week inish it's also
there in also the people who would come
and check out on the Sid you know they
didn't come early to DAV they were late
comers so nishma we got away with it
okay
and so on it never was changed over
there but three times a day there it was
we're looking for trouble so was changed
to so says the same concept hit with the
word Kem so originally it was Kem
without a UD and it meant the the
celestial
bodies there because it's more than one
Celestial body
K him Creator in singular so was without
a but then some cyer him by
accident put in a yud because they
thought that's how it's supposed to be
spelled that's all they thought the the
last Cipher was a was a dum dummy you
know he missed a yud you know like I'm
going to do a favor and they realized
there's going to be trouble here so they
took the word out completely and put in
the word konam and this is verifiable
now in manuscripts it's not a conjecture
and so on so if you take for example ex
the r look at source number seven those
after the page in Source number eight it
says if you see the new moon in its in
it's new moon so you're supposed to say
this is what we
call right so it
says that's not now now why did I bring
this if I have it on this page it's
taken off the pro the the the Baran
responsive literature who already used
an updated corrected version of the
rambam but the only thing is they only
corrected it up until still point point
they still made a mistake they printed
conem with a yud in the original rambam
the Kem does not have a yud in the
printed rambam
that many of us have it says
konam Kon it has the the the the
censored word K also in the rambam's the
r has like a S at the end of and um he
also has konam in the print which is the
sensor version and why do I say that
because I have a whole chapter in my
book
about that inadvertently found its way
into the mishar of the RAM and we talked
about this two or three weeks ago with
regard to B
is
it which is it is
it or is it
t ashas crept into the prince of the RAM
and this was not a censorship issue this
was a movement from manuscript to typ
setting in Europe how mistakes were made
and and ashkanazi texts were spy text
I'm sorry were corrupted in ashkanazi
printing houses in European printing
houses this is something I heard from
the r sunra Professor 52 years ago in a
lecture at Hebrew University and um and
I took it and I employed it with the
rambam and I discovered that there are
numerous numerous examples of where
inadvertently was printed in the Mish T
of the so if um if you take a look at
source number six so this is not
something we didn't talk about under the
so you know they're going to honor you
to be the M kushan Okay so saffron was a
m kushan more than once I'm sure that um
I don't know how many people had the of
being a m Kian I don't know people had
the of being M for all their six
children that's a tremendous without a
doubt
um ofstein also was for all his children
but
um the the uh the of
M right before the ring is given so
there's a b gin and then there's
Source number six so right it's
it's all right so then you give the to
drink a little bit and the Min is that
the kala gives the the mother of the
kala gives the kala a little bit to
drink that's done so that at the end of
the you move the mother-in-law added a
picture and the gives the his wife
already to drink and the mother-in-law
gets the picture that she's now out of
the picture it's very very you know as
they say bolate very very obvious that
that's what happens okay
M well guess what the rambam's version
is that's his version madesh
is yet when I have here a quote from um
Source number five Source number
five that's the way the r has
it and that is correct that was the
rambam's version in the manuscripts and
that's why it was updated in the and
that's how I have it on the page but if
you look at source number six
it
says who is the I I mentioned this
already four weeks ago who is the manot
he's the nephew of
Rutenberg he also unfortunately perished
in a Pam of 1298
in in Germany what he does to the Mish
of the rambam he updates it for
ashkanazi consumption very similar to
where mosha Isis the ramod does
to he makes it asazi friendly
so going through the thisi but you're an
ashkanazi so you just want to make sure
that you have it right in terms of your
so
the makes notes but we do it differently
the great example is reading the Milla
so the Rah writes that there's a Shu at
night time and there's no at the m in
the morning and
the his own re and his uncle and he says
but we repeat the in the morning so
right away if you're
studying and you're in ashkanazi you you
you don't take assume that what the ram
is saying is ashkanazi custom as well
you always have to just drop down and
take a peak sometimes you need reading
glasses because it's very small print
but but you can read it so what is
the here in Source number
six we
we uh our custom is to finish
the and then he has in parenthesis he
write in Brackets he
writes today it is
customary why does the rush say who is
the rush who
is let's take a
vote The Rush The Rush is the father of
the one who's going to write the
tourer who's the Forerunner of the
forrun of the is actually uh based on
the Prototype called the tour where for
the first time all of is divided into
four units there's agricultural but it
also includes DS and then there's which
isab and then there's anything you want
to know about marriage divorce and
everything else and and then there's
civil law damages so that's really what
the is all about there's nothing there
about bet mikdash because this was put
together in the Middle Ages and they
weren't concerned with the laws of beta
mikdash at the time so the um the tour
raker writes this great compendium it's
very encyclopedic in nature and he
brings things down to the bottom line
the Tas what's the great work that was
written on the tour was rosf Caro's B
today when you be you think of the hash
on Burger's bars but uh
right but be was the great work of rosf
Karo and he rosf Caro wrote a digest of
his own be Jose for balab for people
like us all of us you know who really
don't have time the patience and
knowledge and and everything to go
through the B Jose so he puts it on a
silver platter and he calls the silver
platter this the prepared table that's
what he does the prepared table it's for
simple simple tons like us so that's the
but if you really want to go through go
through the you would
me give him a
big must probably be
insulted giving me what about the so was
written on the T the t is the son
of so were
they so the answer is
both how could that be both but they
they were born in in in France and the
rush was educated by the last of the
authors of the to so the to our class
Thor
ASM the rush writes a book on the that
smells like tovot it's the same topics
the same style everything it it's
printed in the back of the gamar but
it's readily available to all the on
Shas and it's there and you see that
he's picking up from Toot and and
dealing with it and so on he migrates to
Toledo to Spain and he becomes a rabbi
in Spain now we've had scenarios of
people from different ethnic Origins
serving as Rabin leaders right people
who familiar with Rabbi mayor salic at
the Spanish Portuguese synagogue in in
Manhattan another thing but I always
refer to theam the father of Rebecca Von
who was also a thoroughbred y German Jew
and he becomes the r of the spardy
community of Amsterdam said that that's
why he
was the the these things happened there
was a rabis
Lian in in in Ocean Parkways the rabbi
of the Syrian Sho and and and so on so
so this happens sometimes the community
doesn't have its own so they take borrow
from some other uh Community a rabbi
until they develop and cultivate their
own the Syrian Jewish community in D New
Jersey has a somebody who's from the
halabi Syrian Jewish Community as their
Rabbi so it happens you know it develops
so here the the rush comes from uh
France ashaz and he comes to Toledo and
he starts deciding for the toan Jewish
Community like aardi and he writes
responsa like aardi so he really adjusts
and accommodates his pis so now so he's
he's like a hybrid he's he's ashkanazi
when he talks about the explanations of
gar and his when it comes
to and he's the father of the tour so
the tour has also he grew up as a hybrid
so he has thisy idea and he's got the
ashkanazi idea and that left rosf Karo
to start sifting out and Mak it into a
more Sardi type of
book so then the rizes it for asazi
people
but so the rush rather he knows that in
ashkan the end of the
was comes to Spain he sees that it's
done otherwise but apparently that
ashkanazi Min of expanding the ending of
the under the was was adopted by this
spom as well so that's why the the rush
writes today you know why he says today
because yesterday in Toledo they didn't
do it this way but now you know they've
come around and and and they've adopted
we've
added but in the rambam's text as we see
in Source number five
was that's all it was yet we can go
through old prints of the rambam that
were printed in Europe and guess what
it's
printed which means they printed
into the text of the ram da in this
specific case somehow or another if I'm
not mistaken I think the villara already
had it right but there are earlier
ramban prints that were impacted by all
these printing changes from the in the
16th century when it moved from
manuscript to print and it already has
madesh it still has it it was changed
from mes is to
mades
by the way what is it
mean there are many pointed out the
order is wrong it should
be what comes first remember who who's
on first right famous Maron who's on
first what comes first what the kushan
or the so I mean the is there but you
don't need a for the
k What is the by the way don't tell me
it's a canopy what is the the anybody
want to Define to me what
the means entering into the common
domain of husband and wife the common
domain so in ashas you know what the
common name was the room the room which
played a role as if it was the new dile
the new home of thean Kala and that's
where as put two witnesses a lot of
people don't even see this because after
the you know and you go eat right right
then of course the photographer how long
do they have to stay in the so they
different opinions on it you know who's
the PO the photographer right phographer
is the know he wants to get them out as
soon as they can so some say you need
nine minutes and some say four minutes
and some say have two minutes but so you
need have no and I always telli couples
going
anyway and run away from the crowd for a
few minutes it is healthy is a very
healthy component for the young couple
very very healthy component so fine wres
no don't do because it's gonna it's
going to indicate that you've
become and don't do it he makes a fight
not to have have the go into if you do
certainly not to have witnesses there so
how can you
have if there no Witnesses you're going
to have two guys come and escort Thea to
their new apartment or to some hotel
room or wherever it is I mean you're not
going to do that so there's a concept in
in called an we're all Witnesses but
everybody knows that they're going to go
into a room and close the door you don't
have to have formally two people to
attest to that fact but ashkenazim
didn't buy that necessarily and
therefore we have the symbolic
going into the private doile but with
two witnesses outside and I always tell
the two witness outside when the time is
up just knock on the door and walk away
they can stay in as long as they want
they don't have to come out just let
them know that the time's up and that's
it they're on their own now fine and you
have to also make sure that there are
Kosher witness I can tell you that as a
Madan it is more important to check out
the adim than who's going to be M kadan
and who's going to be the
say I couldn't care less who
says but but the have to
be and and I heard this once from RAB
Lao senior who once was uh um at at a
wedding he did a wedding for the foreign
minister of Israel AB Ian's son or
daughter whatever and Ra was a you know
high-profile Rabbi and ab iben invites a
writer gri to be one of the witnesses
under the man was not a shabas and and
uh ravl realized that this is going to
be a diplomatic crisis what do you do
you the whole news media is going to
know that RL
disqualified a a a person who was very
famous so RL goes over Kim gurri says
listen you know tell ABA AB even tell
ABA you don't want to thank you very
much for the cover but you know if
there's going to be a problem with this
wedding and they're going to drag you
into a b m b you don't need this
headache just just bow out you know and
that's it hold the that's a very nice
cavod hold be one of the people to hold
the four poles of the I'm telling you
that's a great
cavod that was really you bailed me out
you saved me and I heard that story and
guess what I had the same story later in
life obviously and I had I used to ask
the you know tell me about the ad who
you would like if I don't know the ad
I'm going to interrogate them anyway but
just tell me who they yeah Shas so he
asked one ofb he says once in a while I
said what once a week once a month I
mean what is what's what's so I finally
get out of him that he's not 100% of sh
shabas I told the most you know what you
can hold the pole of the it worked it
actually worked you know s you have to
be careful of of who are the M when one
of my sons got married so one of the
adim was his
rashash known R and everything and in
front of his at the at the at the's
table I
saidat so all everybody laughed
everybody thought was funny and ra
played along with me he knew what I was
doing it was an educational thing to
teach the other guys he
goes he's right you know you have to ask
you have to ask so why do I say this
because once you don't have to have the
same ad at room can be another two
people you want to honor two people to
sign the two people will be under two
people for but it has to be Kos so I
asked the I asked you know and
okay with black hats and everything I
said
shab okay and you're related to the
you're related to the kala no no you
related to each other no no no and then
as an afterthought a guy says I two
wives are sisters I said sh them your
two wives are sisters say you know I can
only use one of you you guys are
brothers-in-law you're Apostle one of
you aost I don't care who you know do
but one of you is possible how can you
do that what what you say in a CO you
didn't know what which which gar did you
learn I mean I mean what did you learn
you didn't learn I I was I was really
upset because had somebody pointed this
out to me in the video afterwards
because people have seen videos of
weddings and said how could these two
people be wedding they're first cousins
how could they be the ADM and then you
have to drag Thea back to the to the
raban and
do kadan again
it's not you know it's not not simp it's
a little sympathy as they say it's not a
nice thing to do so you got to make sure
you have to make sure that they're
kosher and and even for the and and
that's like very very important so you
have
here is the and the reason that we have
a is a symbolic
room so you have a roof you have four
poles and the the color builds the
walls you want seven walls so it doesn't
fall down like by it fell down here
she's going around seven times and
building it up that's why you have the
mother and the Mother-in-law help out
with the going around you know so um Bes
that so you're building up to she's
building up the bu it there's a m in at
the
beginning so she's gonna keep up the B
it so that's a symbolic we do but the is
there and it's for the purpose of the
under the that's where there's a but the
K that can be done you know in Time
Square me anywhere you know you don't
need a house so why do we
say so there were some who changed the
version not a but a vet bet
with but it's
likein through the medium of kin
then we can put up the so it's really
and then but we
say but it's a vet it's not a v it's not
and kin and it it is through
kin so why it doesn't have a because it
has a hay before that so grammatically
it loses the D and that's why when
people would
know so when they transcribed it they
put a v very simple but it was really a
bet with through K some say that the
proof that that the fact that it's means
that there's something of a before the
and it's the Min of B of covering the
kala that is for sure a something done
before the now that's a Min that was
done based
on with regard to Rifka and Y that when
she comes off the gal she covers so you
see that before they're they're they're
they're getting K before they're going
to get married so she already covers her
her face and her hair and so on and and
that's done uh um as a Min as a type of
gesture but some say it's not such a Min
it's a
it's that that's the real and those who
think that that's the real which by the
way is not the
mainstream but never Le we're in the age
where people want to fulfill their
obligation to all the all the de so they
insist that two witnesses will be there
at the time of the bin I'm sure you have
seen Rim who have looked for the two aim
at the time of the bin to verify the
status of the covering of the kala now
was not he was not that there had to be
two witnesses at theas at the B which
meant that he did not accept the notion
that the bin was really the but the
really was the or better yet the was
really the and that was way afterwards
and there we did have two witnesses that
was very important to have two a but to
have two a by the that's I once heard
from ra the great rash and the who once
commented about the whole inclination to
fulfill your obligations according to
all of the views and sometimes they're
even contradictories that's even a trick
to do that he says it's it's it's a
weakness in being decisive people who
can't be decisive so they have to just
be you know and okay there people think
that the more sheas the marrier you know
like but but then you can just go crazy
you that you you have to take a stand on
on certain views and and stick by it and
that becomes
your so you have here
about I'm just going to just wrap it up
with
um perhaps just another um example
Al
of of this business of uh of the rambam
andhas she's going to whip through yeah
I wanted to say something about kishana
so kishana as the rambam has the um the
bra in Source
number8 the it
says if you see the new moon when it's
new moon when does the new moon become a
new moon after rodes right so at Shabbat
before we have and the gab announces the
mulad gab announces the mad when the new
moon is going to be
born the um most people don't pay
attention to it it doesn't mean anything
to us
right on Wednesday there some people
think that the moon only understands
yish I have heard mads announced here in
Israel everything is said in Hebrew or
English for that matter in the sh but
the m is in yish why because the
grandfather used to say in the the is
going to be the the moon doesn't
understand any language you can say it
whatever language you want and all you
do ISB you get the M it's printed there
every once a month fine so mad means
when the first possibility of the
appearance of the new moon so in theory
if the two witnesses would be out there
waiting to see the new moon so they can
report it immediately to the bin you
have to know when the Moet is the custom
is that we wait until at least after the
third day ofes to say k because then
you're absolutely sure it's the new moon
you know if it's on rodes itself well
maybe it's the day before you're not
sure well today we are sure because we
have calendars but um in the days of old
when the calendar weren't so widespread
so you could erroneously say Kish laana
on the 29th or 30th day of the previous
month and not on the 1 of the next month
so people have accustomed themselves to
wait three days and the capitalist
waited seven days so and and then
another minute kicked in you know want a
good time to say right after Shabbat
right why because people
are it says in clearly in one of the
sections in the sit lifted out
of he says you have to say standing up
because it's like receiving K's Presence
by by doing K and and and after shabas
you're you're in a good spirit for doing
this and you have a minion coming out of
sh you don't have to have a Minion for K
Lana but it's nice if there's a minion
so they'll delay it the only time it's
not good to delay if it's in the winter
months because maybe M of shabas it's
going to be stun cloudy you're never
going to see a moon okay so let's wait
till Sunday Monday you know if the
seventh of the month is Friday and it's
the eighth of the month it's a gamble to
to start waiting so I I prefer for sure
the earlier Min not the non- cabalistic
Min Min which is by the third and into
the third and the month or really three
days after the m so it can already be on
the third because many times the m is
like kind of a day before alive that's
something else but I'm just going to
queue you into a little personal thing
people sometimes have a connection to a
particular Mitzvah and I'm hooked on
Kish laana I mean literally hooked on
Kish Lana because of a personal incident
that I have when I several years ago and
I had a slip disc and I was wasn't able
to walk properly for about 2 3 weeks and
um the what what turned it around was I
turned the corner from uh my house where
there's a drugstore I had to pick up
steroids and it takes me normally 3
minutes that's when I walk slowly to the
drugstore and this took me 45 minutes to
turn the corner every step was very
painful and I turned the corner and I
saw the moon and I hadn't said Kish
laana yet that month took out my phone I
said Kish laana and I realize what this
is all about it's h it's renewal it
gives you a shot in the arm that things
have to be better and I was able to walk
home properly not I mean still was
difficult but I I I realized I've I've
bottomed out I've bottomed out that was
a was a GameChanger that Kish and I said
I'm going to be the first one in Earth
is well to say and that's why the rambam
doesn't know from day seven nor day
three the ramam says
the minute you know it's the new
moon so I have personally defied the Min
and even on the first if I can say I
snap a photo and I send it to my family
shal shal you know it's first one in the
world to say Kish laana I have a love
affair with Kish laana I don't know why
we were once driving in raote and you my
wife can testify this and I hadn't said
kishani yet for whatever reason um
either because it was cloudy whatever
driving down ROV Harry Truman in raon Al
and I saw the moon I pulled over to the
side jumped out of the car my wife
thought it was an emergency I said it
was I had to say Kish she thought I was
out of my
mind but but uh this is and that's why
the only time I delay Kish by the way is
when I'm in and I see the new moon
because I know if I'm going to be back
in ER after before the 15th of the month
which is the last time zone to say I
will prefer to
say to say it and that that's the only
time I'll delay it that's all okay next
week for those who didn't have the
announcement at the beginning next two
weeks I will be in I will not
say I will be back in right
after and I'll be able to say here so
there will be a p substitute be in the T
tidbits who what when but in 3 weeks
from today mem we will resume C