The Torah Secret About Astrology Nobody's Talking About

If you're feeling stuck in your life, I'm super excited to show you what's going on for you. You're only half done and there's still another huge part of your life. That's one of the biggest misconceptions that [music] people have. We think we know ourselves. Oh, this is who I am. Yeah, I know I'm still going to grow, whatever, but this is who I am. You might only be activating half of who you are. There's whole parts of you that still are here to come out and to grow. >> This is the exact reason why I wanted you on the podcast. >> None [music] of your business, Soshi. None of your business, Michael. It's the None of Your Business podcast hosted by Michael and Oshi. >> Welcome back everybody to an out of thisworld episode of the None of Your Business podcast. I'm your host Michael Greenfield. With me of course is co-host Ushi Schwarz and today we have someone fascinating really out of this world and you know you got your book on display so uh everyone doesn't have a choice but to get to know you throughout the entire episode. So welcome to the program of Yitk Pinkis. >> Pinkis. Yes. Pinkis. Not P I N C U S but P I N K E S Z. Very important. >> Right. So you're not related to any of the Pinkis Bar. But where are you from? >> Bor Park. >> Are you from B Park? >> Yes. >> Um it's the heart of Burough Park. >> The heart. I'm saying you the banks or the pizza shops? Which ones are you near? >> They're both one. You go from bank to pizza. Supermarket. Literally on one block there's 14 banks. It's wild. >> Right. That's what So you still live in Burough Park? >> Yes. Yes. >> Wow. Um, so I'm from the border of Burough Park originally, McDonald Avenue between uh Bar Park and Flabber. >> Midwood. >> Midwood it would considered. Yeah. But before we go there, I just want to thank all our subscribers. Thank you to the Prime Source production team and uh the amazing work and growth that we've had over the past year and a half, almost two years. Wow. It's been amazing. It's been fun. And uh we appreciate all the comments. We appreciate the love. We appreciate the hate. We just love that you guys are getting involved and giving us your opinions and your thoughts. And uh we are definitely not taking them seriously. Uh but we are loving the love and uh we appreciate all the uh subscribers and uh please continue to join us on this ride. Uh we're doing great things and we're constantly growing with people like you which is uh if you have a story to tell and uh you're on your growth mode and you know there's something about you in the past, something current, something in the future, then we want to hear from you. I think that you encompass all of it pretty nicely. Um I have to say from Burough Park. So, uh, my brother was a councilman in Burough Park for a while, David Greenfield. >> Yeah, sure. Sure. >> Okay. Yeah. And, uh, very soon I'm going to tell you something about us that I'm going to want to hear your feedback about. Okay. >> Which is the fact that we are twin brothers. >> Wow. >> And, uh, I know the exact time of when I was born versus when he was born. >> Wow. >> So, I'm excited to get to that. Do you know the time that you were born? >> One second. Uh, let me just think back. Let me see if I can remember. >> It's on your birth certificate, silly. >> Well, I never checked in my birth certificate what time I was born. >> Okay. Some people hold significant uh information. >> The exact time like the hour and the minute. >> Yes. Yes, >> it matters. >> Yes. So, we need your birthday, month, day, year, your exact time of birth, and your city, state of birth. All three. >> Do I give you half of those things? >> You can give me anything. But yeah, do you want precise information? We need precise. >> You want [laughter] halfass information? Then give them half ass information. >> What What do you get if you know all those things? You get >> your entire life, who you are, what you're here to do, all your gifts, your strengths, your struggles, the timing of your life. Incredible amounts of information is what you get. >> Okay. >> Wow. Okay. >> I hear I just got nervous for a second. Yeah. Maybe I don't have time. [laughter] >> I don't know if I want to do that. Has anyone ever told you the time and the day that they were born and the place and the city and the state and you're like, "Oh crap, I don't want to say what's going on with this guy." >> No, there's no such thing. >> No. Because every person was created by who? By God. >> By God. And what is God? God loves us. He wants us to succeed. He wants us to fly. He wants us to flourish. Now, we first have some struggles. We have to overcome stuff. So, I can show you this different struggles that you're here to go through, what you're here to achieve. But that's not your life. Your life is to do incredible things. So, I'm super excited. If you're feeling stuck in your life, I'm super excited to show you what's going on for you. You're only half done. There's still another huge part of your life. That's one of the biggest misconceptions that people have. We think we know ourselves. Oh, this is who I am. Yeah, I know I'm still going to grow, whatever, but this is who I am. You might only be activating half of who you are. There's whole parts of you that still are here to come out and to grow. >> This is the exact reason why I wanted you on the podcast. So, I know that you've been doing podcasts lately. Okay. I've seen you I've I've heard you I've heard some of the snippets. You've been with Dalia Fster. You've been with Jakob Langanger. I believe you've been with many others over the past year. And usually, I got to be honest with you, I don't like recycling uh podcast guests, but um I take a strong um passion for astrology and in general, just looking up at the sky and appreciating what's up there. So, I really wanted to have this discussion and I knew that you are a fan of the time and the day and the place you're born. So, I know all that and I came armed with that information. And uh sorry, my brother David, he's everyone's going to figure out where what his uh you know, thing is. But you're saying it's not negative, so there's nothing wrong in talking about it. >> Yes. >> Does anybody in Bora Park actually care about what you do? I'm just curious. >> Abs. The minute they hear about it, the minute people understand, that's the big thing. There's two big problems with astrology. One is it kosher. So that's why I wrote a book kosher astrology going through it's deeply tied to the Torah to amora. There's hundreds of sources explaining astrology. Most were deeply tied to it. So that's so that's the first step. That's when people start feeling comfortable once they see how it's connected to the Torah. That's step one. Step two, what is astrology? There's so much confusion. We all grew up. What's astrology? You know, you look in the horoscope section in the newspaper and Pisces Tuesday, your boss is going to give you a raise. Is that astrology? Or, oh, if I'm a Leo, that means I shouldn't date a Pisces. So, pop culture astrology is not astrology. There's no depth to it. Astrology goes into much greater details. And once people learn how much information it has about your own life, it's about you. It's very personalized about you, that's when people start going crazy. >> I appreciate it. I was just asking in general that people in Borough Park actually stop for a second and listen to what you have to say. >> The minute they hear about it and they see what is once they watch a podcast and they hear more details and it's not just a surface, oh, astrology he stuff, this is real, then people are extremely interested. Yeah. I've had people calling me from all over from Monroe, from you, you name it, across all the the from demographics and people are very very interested. >> It's stopping people in their track. >> Yes. Yes. Everybody. I mean, that's why I wrote a book. I spent five years writing this book because when I realized that this is it's deeply connected Torah and it's huge part to understanding of who you are, >> I I need to shout it from the rooftops. Everybody needs to know this. >> Okay. I'm I'm sort of sold. We'll get back into it in a second. >> Okay. I say only sort of, you know, simply because, you know, you're unpacking five years with just one hour of a discussion. >> Absolutely. By the way, I'm the biggest skeptic. I was the biggest skeptic of astrology. So, I think it's healthy to be skeptical, but be open-minded. Skeptical and openminded. >> I think that you'll find that about both Ushi and I and our listeners. We're all skeptical and we're all open-minded. Beautiful. >> We are truth seekers and we love uh the art of an argument and a discussion. So, u I I definitely want to get into it. I was just saying the last time I was in bar park is when I heard kapsum and like that's what got everyone's attention and for those that don't know kapsum of course is a terminology you use if you see someone doing something bad you stand in the middle of the street and you yell kapsum and the whole bor park just runs after that person and you should not be in that situation so the shyim was developed in Brooklyn and uh I think it was the first place that was ever right do you know that even but yeah probably they're like the volunteer police >> that sounds like a bar park thing [laughter] It totally lines up. >> You get a badge, you get a red light, you get to, you know, it's it's Brooklyn. So, um, they have an I just have to interrupt this program with this following fact that they have a fascinating channel now that they, uh, promote on YouTube and it's the Borough Park Shaman. It's like, remember growing up, bad boys, bad boys, what you got to do, right? You know, cops, this is like a next level. It's uh, the Borough Park Sharma have a channel and every member has a camera on them. So you see the action like okay we got a per we loa uh [laughter] >> I don't even know why I know what that means. That's crazy. >> It's just funny. >> Alo I never heard that but what about perp you know what a perp is right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We got a 49 and 18. You know heading towards the dime bank you know. Uh now they're by city. Uh but anyways they have an amazing channel. I I I invite everyone to check out their channel because they really do a great job looking after people like you know breaking into cars and like you know that's why I'm asking you like in borrow park people are actually taking a stance I mean uh taking a minute to look at this so that's great all over the world. >> Um we have a segment called uh chat GPT says what about you? >> Okay. >> Um you familiar with chat GPT? >> Sure. >> Okay. You ever look yourself up online? >> Uh sometimes you got to stop asking that. Are you familiar with chat GPT? At some point you got to just like assume they know what it is and just uh tell them we chat GPT you and here's what we got. >> I hate to say it but you're right. >> So [laughter] getting straight into it. Um so you know I didn't know much about you in terms of uh you as a person. I know that you talk about astrology a lot. I do want to get a little bit about behind the scenes. You know we now know you're from Burough Park but what made you get into this is is kind of interesting. But it says here that uh you're the only human alive who can say Saturn is influencing your finances and somehow make it sound like Muser. [laughter] This is a >> what do you have a comedian? >> Yes. My chief has a sense of humor. [laughter] Okay. >> Um you know I know that Saturn exists. You know I was once in a uh I was once looking through a um >> telescope >> a telescope on top of a mountain somewhere in California. >> Oh yeah that's awesome. I was there too. Yeah. >> What's that place called? >> I forgot what it's called. the planetarium there. Yes. >> One of the most fascinating planetarium just there. Yes. >> Besides the fact that I saw Starlink. Do you ever seen Starlinks before? >> I haven't seen them, but yes, there's a lot of space junk, but yes. >> Yeah. So, this is, you know, this is I guess, you know, if you call it space junk, Elon Musk may get insulted, but you know, that's the coolest thing when you just look up in the sky and you see like a chain of like 10 or 11 lights together. So, I've seen it there and I'll never forget the experience. Ah, that's Saturn. That's Saturn. You see a tiny little ring or something and it means absolutely nothing and you move on with your day. So, when did this mean something to you? How did you get into it? I mean, it's amazing that you've been writing a book for five years and doing a lot of research, but uh who are you? What did you grow up as? And, uh, when did you first first start, you know, thinking about that? >> So, I grew, it's a great question. So, I was never interested in astrology. It was like, yeah, one of those far-fetched things. I want to see something has to make sense, has to be logical. And so I was um I was executive director of a nonprofit organization. You know, I recognize at some point in my life that I'm here to help uplift people. And so, Hashem is the one who directs our lives and sends us. I always tell people, you don't have to figure out first work on yourself, know who you are, and then Hashem will send you exactly what you need at the right time. So, at the right time, at a particular important astrological turning point in my life, Hashem opened the door to astrology for me. And so, what happened? And I was in the car with a with a friend of mine and we had just gone to my friend's engagement party and we were driving them home afterwards the the kala and my friend had mentioned to me that he he knew a from woman who's an astrologer and so I'm curious. I'm a Gemini. I'm curious. I'm like hey just as a lark I had no serious intentions with it. Let's call her up. Let's ask her some questions. Let's see if it's real. Let's see what it's about. So I called her up. I gave her my She asked me for my birth information. I gave her my birth information and she started going, "Wow, you have a lot of the element of ear. Are you a rabbi? Are you a professor? Are you a scholar?" I'm like, "Okay, I wasn't all those things, but yes, I do love writing and reading and studying. Okay, that that fit me. That's interesting." And my friend, she said, "He has a lot of the element of earth, very grounded, practical kind of thing, and he's a school principal." And he said, "Yeah, it fit him well." Now, this wasn't a lot of information, but had she switched it, it wouldn't have fit us at all. So, that opened up the door for me. I was like, "Wow, what's going on here? Is there something real about this?" And so, then I went and once I get curious about something, I delve deeply into it. And I went and I bought 400 books on astrology. Not right away, over the next couple years. And I went to study every single safer I can find about astrology because I was blown away. I that's when I found out it's not just that they tell you information. There's a birth chart. The moment that you're born, it reflects all the energy of the solar system. Hashem implants all of that energy the moment you're born into a baby. And that baby has the potential for the next 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 years to bring the unique energy of the solar system of the moment that they were born into the world to manifest it into the world. >> Can I just stop you for a second? >> Sure, please. >> How old are you approximately at this time when this is happening? Um, I was think 35, 36, something like that. >> Okay, you're 35 already. And what are you doing at this point? Are you uh you working? You're uh you're married like what's >> So at that point um I had just I just finished I worked for seven years as an executive director of a social services agency and I had just retired from that and I was in an open space to what my next steps in life are. >> Okay. >> And that's when Hashem sent me exactly when I was ready for it. Exactly. free agent at this point. >> You don't really know where your life is going. You're sort of in a reset moment in your life right now >> and then you stumble on this and this really, you know, interests you >> and you're like going all in on this. So, you're ordering books, you're reading up on this and you're trying to get any source possible to get educated on this. >> Yes, absolutely. It's like and not just that and then when I saw how much deep information it had describing me even the fact that I would look into 400 books I have Pluto connected to my Mercury Pluto intensifies everything and it looks something deep and Mercury is your communication and thinking it it astrology covers all the different parts of you it's not just one sun sign. So particularly on my communication and thinking, I have this incredible intense energy and drive to find out the truth and to address the elephant in the room that nobody's talking about. And that's perfect. What Hashem sent me is kosher astrology that nobody's talking about and it's a huge piece of the Torah of Amrra and of our lives. And so that's really opened my eyes and that's how I opened. >> Did you like science as a kid? Was that your favorite subject? >> So I wasn't no particularly science. I was more like a spiritual. I don't know if you know the MyersBriggs and the personality types. I'm an INFJ. So, I'm more into looking into deeper things. I I do want to understand how things work, but that's more the empty. So, I'm not the scientist type, but I'm more the spiritual deeper understanding life and understanding people and our growth and our purpose and Hashem and our process. All of that I want to understand. >> Interesting. Okay. I'm just a little fascinated by this because most of us uh you do realize that, you know, you are an anomaly. I mean, I could just hear you talking about it now already. I don't even know what you do or how you do it or what we're talking about here today, but you're passionate about it. Whatever this is, I can tell. And somebody just like mentioned something to you about, you know, what you could be connected to with your month. And then you're like, "This is where I want to be." You just went all in on it. It's pretty crazy. Most of us would just like move on and like all right, cool. Very nice. Uh, what else? What's for breakfast tomorrow? But here you are just like, >> "No, I got I got to get I got to get down with it." That's the thing. That's what I tell people. You got to stay open because that's there are parts of us we don't even recognize and realize is there to uncover. And I want everybody to uncover it. I want everybody to be doing this. Find your toughkin and purpose. Get passionate about it and go out there in the world. >> That's what everybody's here. >> This is a topic I know nothing about. Okay. >> Uh if you would have told me a week ago that I'd be sitting here today a week later and talking about astrology and what that all means and how it's all connected to people, I wouldn't have believed you. And I would have said, "No thanks." And I I think I speak for a lot of people that like this doesn't seem like an interesting topic. Like I could probably live my life without knowing any of this, but I'm very curious to hear a little bit because you clearly are very invested in this. So I would like to know a little bit about it. So you know, let's let's hear where this is going. Yeah. No, absolutely. The thing is like people think because they don't understand how much there is to you as a human being what Hashem has given you. Do you know every person has a once in a-lifetime son Neptune? That's a time when it's going to be an incredible inspirational time in your life. So for example, Martin Luther King when he gave his I have a dream speech and he said it's a very one of the most famous speeches in American history where he says that I have a dream that one day my children won't be judged by the color of skin but rather by the content of their character. Neptune is all about elevation and transcendence and tapping into the collective what the collective wants to hear. And it's all about inspiration. and he had this once in a-lifetime astrological aspect when he gave this incredible speech that's known for for for dozens and dozens of years. We all have that moment in us. You have that moment in you. And so I want everybody to know about this and to discover that they're capable of doing incredible things if they tap in. We have free will. Tap into yourself. Become conscious. So much of our life is spent unconscious. So, I want everybody to become conscious and tap into your gifts and your skill sets and it's all lined out for you. I can tell you what year you're going to have that. >> That's amazing. It sounds awesome. Could we slow down? Could we go back to the basics? Sure. Tell us what this is. What What is astrology? How does this thing work? Just give me the for the overview of this, please, because this is very new to me. >> Okay. So, so like what I said before, it starts the moment that you're born. Hashem takes the energy of the solar system and implants it within you. And we can draw a map. That's why I asked for your your date of birth, your time of birth location. I put that into my computer and I can draw a map of where all the planets in the solar system were the moment that you were born. Where was Mercury? Where was Venus? Where was Saturn? Where was Neptune? Then we also look to see how which planets are connecting with which others. So if you have let's say for example Neptune, which is about elevation and transcendence and oneness connecting to your moon to your emotions, that's going to deeply affect your emotions. I can tell you which parts of you have these extra energies and some of them might be a struggle. Some of them might be difficult. If you have Saturn, Saturn is about discipline, restrictions, and hard work. If it's connected to your moon, to your emotions, that means you may not have been emotionally supported growing up, and you have to learn to emotionally self-support yourself. Now, there's a purpose for that. And that could have been painful and difficult, but it means that Hashem is setting you up. There might be a time in your life where you're going to have to do something that requires a lot of emotional strength. And because you went through that, it built up that emotional muscle and you'll be able to achieve what you're here to achieve. So, it gives you incredible amounts of information about yourself. >> I'm a little lost. >> Okay. I [clears throat] I'm very lost. Sorry. >> Okay. >> Um let's let's start over. That's again >> what >> when you say that the planets and the stars are all aligned when everybody's born like it's constantly repositioning itself depending on when you were born and where all of the planets were were positioned at that moment has a impact on what kind of person you're going to be. Yes. It instills in you your your personality is somewhat hinging on what was going on in the galaxy in the outer space. Is that right? Is that what you're saying? >> Yes. Absolutely. Okay. Is there any like scientific uh sources for this? Is there any Jewish sources for this? Like so who who came up with this? >> All the all the Jewish sources have. So I start we start in batious in the 14th posious it says Hashem created the luminaries the sun and the moon. It should to separate between day and night. And the next thing the Torah says they should be for signs. And Rashi explains it should be for astrological signs. And RB also says it means astrological signs. So right off the bat then you have a garra that says that it says of that blessed with everything. So asked my bak what did what was he blessed with what's everything. So says it's that the great wisdom of astrology was in the heart of a that all the kings from the east and west would rush to's door to ask him astrological advice. This is Abrau the father of the Jewish people was a professional astrologer. Yitzkaritzkar Rama who lived in the 1400s in Spain. He wrote that a Ramovino used astrology to teach the world about Hashem. That's the method that he used to show that is this is not random. This is all controlled by Hashem and Hashem is directing the world through astrology. The Ramal says that Hashem directs the world through astrology. I can go on and on and on of all the Torah sources. are clearly sources of people that >> black and white very clear that astrology is the way Hashem directs the world and it's part of the Torah and Armas. >> Sorry, just quick question. >> Sure. >> During your five years of research and writing this book, how many brick walls have you gone in to when it comes to Jewish uh look of astrology where some people would say better you don't take a look and better you don't mess with your uh you know with your luck or etc. Is there anything like that? I know that I think that the Rambam talks about something >> right so the Rambam my manities is famous for being against astrology he says it's all nonsense and it's all things so I have a whole chapter in my book explaining the Rambam because there are two types of astrology there's the not kosher version of astrology which is a zora and also the fatalistic version in those days they believed that if you were born with Mars which is a bloodthirsty energy you have no choice but to be a murdering bandit >> what do you mean if you were born with Mars >> if you were born with Mars being very prominent in your birth chart. Right? So that means that the Gmorrah talks the Gmorrah Shabas 156A talks about this. If you're born with Mars that it's it's a bloodthirsty. So those in those days everybody believed there's nothing you can do about it. You don't have free will. You're stuck. I don't know what that means. I'm sorry. And you guys seem like you're in different you clearly are very uh subject matter expert over here. This is maybe you're forgetting. I'm a commoner here. I don't I don't know what the heck you're talking about. Please explain. What does it mean I was born with Mars? What does that mean? So in your chart, let's say your sun represents your identity, okay? Your your who you are, what you're here to do. Your moon represents your emotions. Each of these planets represent a part of you. So if Mars, which is an aggressive, assertive type of energy in the sky when you were born, if it was next to your son, astrologically, there's something called conjunctions. There's a whole formula. >> Even if it was next to my son, meaning sun is up there in the sky. Mars is up there in the sky. A thousand people are born this minute. All these thousand people own and now Mars or the sun. What does that have to do with us? >> So, okay, one one step at a time. I'm happy to answer that because that's a question about twins. I'm happy to get into what about two people born at the same time. But just take for a second. You're born with your chart. It has a unique configuration and I can if you want we can go through a chart and I can show you how these configurations work. They have connections. They influence each other. One planet in your chart, the Mars, might be influencing your sun, but somebody born the next day, it's no longer influencing the sun. So, it'll be a particular personality type to you because of the moment that you're born. And everybody has these unique setups. By the way, just as a side point, which will hopefully explain this, Stefan printed this out for me in advance. This is Donald J. Trump's chart when he was born exactly all the different you know nuances of the planets that were aligned with him. Um have you done this already before looked it over and discussed it publicly? >> Yeah. So Trump but in order to understand the chart if you really want look at these two I'll go I'm happy to go through do these two sheets if you really want to understand. >> Let's let's start let's start with this. Let's start with the with the warrior. Okay. And we can put it up on the screen also. Yes. >> Let's start with the warrior. Okay. There's five personal planets. The sun, the moon, mercury, Venus, and Mars. What do I mean by personal planets? That these planets represent a part of human functioning. So, let's go through it. Let's start at the bottom of the page with the sun. The sun represents your core self, your essence, your identity. Who are you? What are you here to do? How do you think of yourself? So, in this particular case, his identity is a knight or a warrior, right? That's how he thinks of himself. Somebody goes, "Who's that guy?" Oh, he's that knight or warrior. So the identity is the overall person who you're here to grow into. If somebody's a doctor, that's their identity. That's how they walk through life, right? So that's represented by the sun. >> If you don't mind, jump to Trump for a second then. What was he? >> Okay. So I can't jump like that because you have to understand the pieces and then we can go through what it works. >> This is not meant for add people. That's >> Look, if you want to I'm happy that's the thing you you asked me to explain detail. I'm happy to do that. But we >> not the details. I just want to understand the process. So let me go through the so let me go through the process. So that's the overall then the other four the moon Mercury Venus Mars each one represents a part of you. So let's start with Mars in red. >> Mars represents your instinct your action your energy and your drive the fight or flight response. Sure. Okay. Now in this particular case it represents the sword and the hands and legs because being a great swordsman has nothing to do with the intellect. It's about your instinctual energy, the hand to eye coordination, your leg movement. So that's Mars's skill set. So Mars's job is to be a great swordsman to serve the purpose of the sun. On the other side we have the moon [clears throat] in yellow and moon represents emotions, your feelings, your needs, your likes, and this your heart. Right? So in this case if is the question is is he a brave warrior? Is he a courageous warrior? Because if he's full of fear, he's not going to make. So I want to show you how each part plays a role in serving the purpose of the identity of the sun. The same thing with Mercury is communication and thinking, right? So let's say he's a great strategist. He knows how to set up the troops or plan an ambush. He's using that part. So I want to show you how every planet represents a different part of human functioning and each one has a skill set that has to contribute to the whole. So this is the first understanding the underlying thing of a chart. >> So the first concept that we're learning today is that there's five different elements in the sky and each of them is representing a different type of human function. Yes. Yes, a different part of you emotion, whether it's a personality trait, whether it's the intellect, whether it's the >> we don't care right now like what specifically moon does or sun does. We don't understand these five things are holding the key to the entire human being and we can describe you entirely by these five things. >> And to clarify, sun, moon, mars, mercury, venus. >> Yes, those are the five. Yes. Yes. Now understand, it's very important to understand human beings are not born fully functioning with their with their abilities. You're here to grow. So most of people go through life with two or three functioning two or three parts of us and we learn to get by but we're not flowing in life. We're not really reaching our tough and a purpose until we activate all five work through our struggles. Work through any kind of trauma >> maximizing. So the goal of astrology is to help you understand where you're at >> and what you still have to work on and what you're still potential is here to grow. It's about potential. It's not a finished product. Right? >> And that's what's so helpful to understand. Why would the son give me something different than it would give him when he's >> so just reframe the word, remove the word son and add the word god? Ask that question. >> Why would God use the conduit, the son, to give me something and give him something? >> Because God wanted you to be a unique personality person different than him. >> No, I I I get that. I know that's what he wanted. But how did how did he create this module to work? How does the sun being uh on Sunday when I was born give me the ability for what does the sun do? The sun does the course identity. >> Give me their density. Everybody has to be a salesman. And then on Monday he was born, the son gave him the ability to be uh you know because the next part is the chart that we're going to look at and that's going to show you all the >> sure let's go with that. >> All the different connections. Each chart has you. So everybody has these five parts of themselves in their chart. Everybody the difference between people is what other planets are influencing that. So if I have Neptune influencing my son, so my identity is going to be connected to idealism to >> wait. Hold on. You just introduced a whole new thing now. Okay. >> So you're saying there's things beyond these five things. >> This is the beginning. This is a start. >> So these are the five >> basic staples. The five. Think of your hands, legs, eyes. Think of that. It's the five parts of human functioning. >> Okay. Got it. But you still didn't answer my question. And why is the son one day giving me one thing and giving him another thing? He gave me one identity on Sunday. He was born Monday gave me a different identity. The son we have to talk about step two and that's this chart the birth chart. In the birth chart I can show you what planet cuz those are the five planets. Now what configuration are they in? If there's other planets in connected to them it's going to be influencing them. So on Sunday there's certain planets connecting. on Monday, they're connecting differently. So the person born on Monday >> other variables that are attached to those five things. Now we got to move into those. >> Yes. To see what's going on. >> You go to Trump. >> So and that's because it's moving. Everything is moving. Right. The con every second every minute. >> But the moment you're born is freeze freeze frame. Everything is frozen and implanted in you of that moment. So you're taking that year. Understand that's so important to understand. Every moment of time is so precious. It's not just gone and forget about it. It's been implanted in somebody and they're going to take that moment's energy for the rest of their lives to manifest things in the world. Understand how powerful that is. >> I understand what you're saying. By the way, you got to slow down on the like excitement part and like you're taking a whole lot and a lot of it could be very true and this could be great, but I just want to understand the practicality behind this first. Like I just want to understand the mechanics of how this works and then we can get into what it all means. >> At least tell him your birthday so he understands what he's working with. What's your birthday? >> My birthday. >> It's not going to help me cuz I need to create a chart. I create a chart then I can tell you a lot of stuff about you. You have to know everything. >> I would love to get there at some point just to see how you know this translates to me like how this connects. >> I have mine. >> You do? Yes. >> Okay. So, we can work with him and see how you don't have your computer here though. No. >> Is it in your head? Can you do some of it in your head? >> No. I got it in my computer. I got And then I I study it for an hour and a half really to understand what's going on. We're very complex people. >> All right. So, let's pause this and do this again. [laughter] >> Yeah. So, Trump already you you did all this exercise, right, for Trump? >> Yes. So, that's his chart. Does this publicly document like what time he was born? >> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. This all he he gave his his birth certificate when when he was doing that whole thing with Obama and saying right. So he give mine his Yes. Thank you. Thank you. >> So we know that Trump was born June 14th, 1946 at 10:54 a.m. in Queens, New York. >> Yes. >> Right. >> Yes. >> And uh and then suddenly all these things align. >> Yeah. Yes. >> Okay. So what was happening at that >> you want me to go through? Okay. So give me the basics. Don't give us all the granular details cuz you're going to lose us. >> Okay. So, but let me just do you see the inner circle the numbers 1 through 12 in the inner circle. >> Yes. >> That's where I'm going to point you where to look at in the chart. Okay. So, if I say look at the 10 number 10, right? So, that's that section of the chart. >> Right. Okay. Now, every symbol I always tell people this looks Chinese to you, right? So, it's very simple to learn how to read this. So, you see that round circle in in the in the house number 10? That round circle with that dot? >> I do. >> Right. So, you don't have to know what it is. Go to the right side of the chart. There's four boxes. Go to the third box. You see where it says moon, sun, mercury? Yes. >> And that'll show you every symbol which planet. Yes. It's telling you that that's the sun. >> And that's where the sun was positioned. >> Yes. At a specific place. You see right underneath the sun. Look back up in the 10th house. You see says number 22. >> Yes. >> So it was at 22° and right underneath it is another symbol is the zodiac sign in Gemini. So he was born. It's not like people think I'm just I'm my son is in Gemini. There's a precise location of where in Gemini it was when he was born. So we have this chart will tell me exactly precisely where every single planet is and which planet is next to each other. So for example, if you look right next to the sun, there's two other planets in that box, right? There's the one that looks like headphones. That's the north node, your purpose in this world. And right next to it, that blue planet that looks like a battle axe, that's Uranus. And that and because >> I was waiting for you to say that, by the way. >> I was quiet. >> I know. And I was waiting for that specific planet, but yeah, go ahead. >> So Uranus is the troublemaker. That's what it's known as. >> And so do you see do you see how it's they're all right next to each other? This is called a conjunction. That means they're blending their energy. So let's talk about that. Uranus >> now those three, the sun, >> the north node, and Uranus, >> right? Those three. >> Yes. >> Um at that moment were together side by side. >> Yes. >> Right. Is that normal or could it be sometimes those three are totally different? They could be completely different miles apart. They're every think about it. This all these things are constant. >> Plants are rotating. They're going >> and I'm I'm hitting pause. >> But now if you unhit pause, you know, a day later, they're all moving. They're all in different configurations. >> They're all positioned in the galaxy very differently every minute of every day. The big thing is hundreds and thousands of years. >> Nothing Hashem does is random. >> So, we're catching a snapshot. You were born. How was the world positioned? Yes. >> And how are all the planets? What angles were they in? Yes. And >> once we have that, you have your sources of how to >> interpret it, translate back. >> Okay. So that's I want to understand the framework. >> Yes. Thank you. >> Of how this all works even before I buy into what you're selling today. Sure. >> Um I'd like to first understand what the theory here is, you know. >> Absolutely. And by the way, all of this is in my book, Kosher Astrology. I go, it's a 500page book. It has 75 pages of full color illustrations, including that warrior one that we put up. So to help people understand the process, how it works, I go through it step by step by step. It's not a two-minute thing. It goes through into detail of how it works. >> And is everything listed here on this page that is relevant or the things? >> Yes, everything here has information. It's incredible amounts of information. >> The first box where it's uh conjunction, opposition, tr square that is >> these are how planets connect to each other. So a conjunction means that the planets are next to each other within 10°. So what we just showed you, the sun is at 22° in the 10th house. You see the north node is at 20. From 22 to 20 is two degrees. As long as it's within 10 degrees, it's considered a conjunction. And they're blending their energy. >> Uh opposition means totally other side. >> Look in the fourth house. You see number four. You see the moon. It literally looks like a moon. >> Yeah. >> Right. It's at 21°. It's right. Draw a line from the moon to the sun. It's exactly opposite. So that's also influencing it because it's an opposition. >> 180 degrees. Totally the opposite side. >> And then the square a 90 degree angle. All of these. >> The second box represents what? the months >> is the zodiac signs. Every planet has a zodiac sign, right? There's Gemini, Taurus. That's that's what most people know about astrology than their zodiac signs. And I'm telling everybody much more important is the planets. The zodiac signs are important, too. >> Oh, I thought the month has a certain title of like a like a November. I'm in November. I'm a Scorpio. >> That means that if you're born in that month, the sun is going to your sun in your chart is going to be in Scorpio, but not your moon, not your Mercury. those are going might be in other signs. So you you have more than one zodiac sign, but your sun will be that's what people know their sun sign. So that's that's a important part. But >> depending on where the sun was positioned that month is where your son was so to speak and that's the name of your >> Yes. Then it becomes yes your particular energies connected to Scorpio. >> So getting back to Trump, if I knew nothing about him Yes. and I was looking at this chart, what's what stands out? The first thing had I literally and I've done this so many times. He has a very unique configuration. He's a very unique person. Right. >> You don't say. >> Yes. Right. And what is that? Uranus. I'm showing you Uranus is connected to his purpose in this world, connected to his identity and to his moon. It's exactly opposite the opposition that he just did. It's exactly opposite his moon, his emotions. What's Uranus? Uranus is all about being authentic and true to who you are. It's independence, rebellion. Don't tell me what to do. I need to be I don't care the way things are done. I'm going to do things my way. If you tell me how to do things, I'm going to do the opposite. That's the energy of Uranus. Trump has a triple in his chart. Have you ever met a more Uranus person? >> What do you mean he has a triple in his chart? >> So, it's connected to his son, his identity. So, if you just had that, that already is going to have that energy. It's also connected to his north node, his purpose in this world. He became president twice. That part of him is a huge part of his purpose in this world. That alone would have been very strong. And additionally, it's connected to his moon, to his emotions. So the three most important parts of his chart are all blaringly connected to this Uranus authentic, don't tell me what to do, rebellion type of energy, >> beating through his own drum. >> Yes. And there's never been somebody, my favorite word that they use all the time for President Trump, every a news outlet, unprecedented, never been done before that a president United should do this. That's Uranus. So it's so bl I love this example because it's so blatant. Everybody knows his personality and everybody can look up his chart. This is not something that I created and you see that Uranus is directly connected. >> So, is this going to be telling us about people's personalities? Could it also tell people about their future? Uh predict things that are going to happen for them? You're going to be married, you're going to have eight kids, you're going to be poor, you're going to could it could it do those kinds of things, too? >> So, that's not kosher astrology. That's deterministic and fatalistic. We are going to talk about I can tell you stuff that's coming up, but not predicting a specific outcome. I can tell you in two years from now, you're gonna have a major new restart for the next 30 years of your life. So, it's a new opportunity to let go what you've been doing for the last 30 years if you've been struggling and stuck. And it's an opportunity for the new you to emerge and to start all over. Kind of like rash. We say in Russasho, it's not I'm not predicting the future. It's a new year beginning and new energies coming in. So, that's very helpful particularly depending on where you are. But we can get much more specific. I can tell you Trump's energy of Uranus, it's a transit in the sky. Every 22 years, it's going to hit your sun. It's going to hit your moon and it's going to affect you. You're going to feel that energy of don't tell me what to do. I really feel restricted in my life. So, I can I can't tell you the specifics, but I can tell you how it's going to affect you. >> Yeah, >> I'm I'm a little less excited. I thought that we were going to uncover some, you know, hidden um jewels over here. Like I'm gonna learn a little bit about what could potentially happen, but you're saying that is quite the opposite of what you do. Like you're not a psychic. You're not going to be able to No, but I I can tell you major stuff when you're ready, when you're going to have this once in a lifetime incredible inspirational moment like Martin Luther King or what your purpose and role is and when you can activate some of that. So there's incredible inspiration without a specific outcome. No predictions. It doesn't remove your free will. You're a huge part of this. You have to do your part. >> How do we actionalize this even at a minimum amount? Like what information can we give you right now? You can do something with it. You don't have to go to a computer and run your little codes. >> So, so what I do when I do a chart reading, I take a person's information. >> I spend an hour and a half delving deeply. I write up seven pages of insight into who they are, their struggles, their gifts, their abilities, all the different things, and the different timing, what's coming up from them, what they just went through, incredible amounts of information. And then I spend an hour and a half going through with them, and I insist that they record it because they'll understand as I'm talking to you, but it can be very overwhelming. And I've had people tell me they've listened for 10 hours to the recording. So, it's not something I can just do on the spot. Yeah. >> You charge for this? >> Yes. >> Oh, okay. So, we learned how to monetize this. This is great. Absolutely. I think it's one of the best investments in your life. >> You're not biased in any way. >> Not at all. Don't come to me. Go to somebody else. >> Give me an example. >> Go to somebody else. >> Give me an example of somebody. I >> I have so many My favorite thing is when I do charting for people, I show them where they're stuck. Like my f depends where you are. The three grouping of people. The first group is people who are very stuck in their lives. So they haven't yet discovered their gifts, their talents. Life is not going well for them. So that's one group. The middle group are people. They know their skill sets. They know their abilities, but they haven't quite taken that next leap. They have different things that are holding them back. Okay. And I can go there. That's my favorite group because I can show them. >> I feel like most of us are living in >> Yes. That's I would say most people are in that group. What's the third one? >> And and the third one is people who've already reached it and achieved it. They've reached their goal. >> Is there such a thing? >> Yes. Sure. Sure. Meaning you're doing your gifts. You know your skill sets and your gifts. What you're here to do. You're you're you're flowing with life. life is really rolling for you. You understand what's happening? I always tell people, Hashem is pouring down sheff on us, but we're standing with umbrellas and we're like, "What's going on? Why isn't it happening?" It's the people who've gotten rid of their umbrellas and they're stepping into their truth. But this requires healing. This is a working process. It's not just something you get lucky and you stumble into. You have to do the work. So those people in the middle ground, I help them show them what's their blocks. And once we unblock them, my favorite thing is when they call me back a couple weeks later, I quit my job. I'm following my dreams, what I want to do. Today, there's no barrier to entry. Today, the internet opens up the world. You can go on podcast. There's no you don't have to rent a store. You once you discover your gifts, your talents, your unique spin, what you were brought into this world. Easy to bring it to the world. Do it. Now, so many people, they have so much fear like I'm not perfect. I had one woman, you know, she her her natural language was Russian, but she loves to give lectures and talk and Torah, and that was holding her back. And I showed people have Saturn. You're not good enough. You're not ready. And I tell people example in the Torah of Mosher Rabenu. Hashem came to Mosha and said, I want you to be the leader of the Jewish people. I want you to take them out of Mits. Do you know what Mosheru answered? Hashem, he told him three things. First thing, who am I? Why are you picking me? Uh the second thing he said, take my brother. He's an amazing leader. Pick him. And the third thing he said, I'm a flawed person. I have a speech impediment. I can't be the spokesperson. This is Mosha the greatest nuvian in history had these doubts. This is so human. I encountered this all the time. And once you recognize that it's Saturn, it's that that voice. It's telling you you need to practice more. You're not good enough. You're not ready. Call it out. Make it conscious. Don't let it live in your head. Put it on your shoulder. Have a conversation with it. Ask it. Isn't that the advice that you gave from Mosher Rabenu? That he's not good enough. That he's not ready. And that can open the door. Especially when I show them in the chart, you were born for this. This is what Hashem created you to do. Who are you? Who's anybody to stop you from doing your mission? Don't let perfection get out of the way. Like it's once you're doing your mission, it doesn't matter. You don't have to be perfect. Your hair can be out of you might say the wrong thing. It doesn't matter. People will feel the essence of what you're saying, the authenticity what you're saying, the passion of what you're saying. And you can do your tough kid. And I want every person to be doing their top kit. >> Love it. How many clients do you see a week? >> So it's very intense. I try I try to keep it to three. It's it's a very intense takes a lot of kus because I'm in that moment I'm on their side. I really want them to activate their lives. I want them to really fully be doing their toughkid. And so I get very passionate. I can even yell at them. I'm like, what are you doing? I tell people, you know, you have a Ferrari and you're leaving it in your garage covered under the tarp. What are you doing? Let's go. >> Life is short. And I've seen people and I've watched hundreds of people over the last year really get going. I had people somebody a woman she was an incredible painter and she felt like you know yes I'm a great painter she knew she had that talent but there's so many painters why should people buy my you know and I showed her she had Neptune Venus this is such a gift from Hashem it's like a window to higher world you're going to be have incredible inspiration there are people who want your unique thing that are going to connect with your unique art different than others >> so you're giving them confidence >> yeah you're building them up >> yes but but I insist that that's why I teach them how to read the charts so it's not Just me telling it to you. I'm showing you that God made you this way. God g I show them the the Venus squaring Neptune in the chart. You can look up anywhere what Neptune means. You can look up anywhere what Venus means. So this is not me giving them a pep talk. I'm showing them in chart and then I'm getting, hey, let's go do what Hashem created you to do. >> Yeah. Look, there's going to be a slew of people, I think myself included, for now that it's it's cool. It's it's nice. It's almost like a nice gesture and I would appreciate it and it's a nice sermon and all, but I'm not really attributing it to facts. Like you're telling me the moon represents the emotions, the sun. Okay. So, I'm taking your baseline of what you're telling me it is and how to attribute it towards certain personalities of mine and look how amazing you are. You should be doing better. It's okay. I might listen just because it's a nice pep talk and I'll appreciate it. >> Here's the thing, >> but I don't know if it goes beyond that. >> So, here's the thing. If I was doing your chart, I'm gonna talk about stuff that you know about yourself. You're gonna see it's gonna resonate. Yes. Yes. So, I talk if I if you have a Saturn moon, I'm going to talk about your childhood, what you experienced, and I'm going to talk about the stuff that's holding you back. I'm going to talk and all of a sudden that's really resonating with your life. >> I go through their ch Yes. I That's the reason. Yeah. Yeah. I go through and I start showing these are the parts you've activated in your chart and these are the parts you haven't yet activated and I go through and so it resonates because you know what I'm saying is very true in your life and I ask people and they give me all kinds of examples of exactly what I'm talking about. Got it. I'll know very quickly if you're on to something >> and uh if I want to even engage further based on what you're doing. >> Yes. >> So that's what I'm asking for here today. Yes. >> Can you give us >> anything? I have to hang out. give us a little sample. >> I have to study the chart and it takes time. This is not something I >> protecting his product. Michael, he doesn't just give it away. And by the way, good for you. I always say if you're good at something, never do it for free. You never do it for free. At the end of the day, if you have something proprietary, something you know how to do, you know, you got to you got to charge the right amount for it. >> It's not about charging. It's about spending the time to do. >> Do I got to go all in with you right away? Like, I got to pay you one lump sum up front and that's it. I get what I get and it is what it Happy afternoon though. We can go through a little bit your chart. I'll give you a couple of headlines just to to see if it resonates. >> Do like a consultation with people where you like you charge like you know a small amount just >> when people come to me they're ready to invest in their lives. They're ready to make their decision. >> What are we talking about? What does he charge? >> You go to my website kosherastro.com. >> Are we talking thousands of dollars? Hundreds of dollars? >> A nice amount. A significant. I always ask people, you know, if if if is $10,000 a lot of money. >> Depends what you give me for. >> Right. Right. If I give you a BMW, that's a hell of a good deal, right? That's very cheap. >> The same idea. >> Okay. I guess the jury is out. We have to see, you know. >> So, Barashem, >> give me an example of somebody who came to you and totally like turned their life around based on some of your findings. >> So, I can't share with people, but I've I've done something. I did I did Gdalia Fence's chart. I did one before him before I traveled down to Florida. I did his whole No, no. I did a whole chart reading for him and and he said it was like an MRI of his life. He says everybody needs to do this. That's a guy on Ellie. I did Ellie Nash's podcast. I did go through his chart on his life. He has a fascinating life and I went through his life in the chart. You can get a sense of what I do on >> without you didn't know him prior to that. >> No. No. And I went through and I he was very skeptical and he was challenging me and he was pushing me and I was validating. >> Yes. And he was like not even the biggest thing in your life. He did a TED talk that for 6 and a half million people watched and that I showed him exactly what was going on during that time. What gave him the courage to do it. There was a healing energy. Uranus being authentic and true. People told him he's crazy. He's a CEO of a company and he's telling talking about his addictions. People said crazy. Don't be public about and he had Uranus in his chart. Uranus says, "I don't care what anybody else thinks. I need to speak my truth." And it led him he's helped thousands of people heal because of it. That gave him the courage. So yes, when he saw that specific and again I told him, don't take my word for anything. Everything I'm showing you, you can look up yourself. >> So, you have very nice testimonials. Yes. >> What are some of the most recent revelations you've had? Even for you, you were surprised to learn that. Give me something that uh was an interesting discovery that really was a whole new thing for you. So, to me, it's just honestly been my experience with people. Like, I've I've I didn't realize how we're at different stages of our lives, and some people are completely closed off to whole parts of themselves. They have no awareness that there's a whole another side of themselves. And I see this over and over again. And then also I see people when I tell them that they're here to do something great. I literally see them shrinking. Like there's so much fear of that. So just the human component to me it's just was very eye opening of the process. I wish somebody taught us this in yeshiva in school. How life works. That's the biggest thing that I blown away by all of this. How like how our own personal development. >> So let's talk about this. all those critics that are actually against them because for every rabbi you find that you know approves of one thing you will find three that disapprove right uh we're always very uh >> so in all the Torah sources I don't find again only >> let's call it spade a spade this is something that's not discussed uh this is not something that is there's no conversations around this in the open >> oh yeah Iban Ezra wrote 14 books on astrology >> it's not of the curriculum of everyday life in schools and stuff >> yes and I'm yelling from the rooftops it should But that's you. That's great. Me and the Torah. Me and >> the thing in the general mass is we just haven't made this a thing that we want to explore and share. >> The general masses have to be unconscious. We're not aware. It's a lack of awareness. Why? Because why would we know about astrology? That it's nonsense that it's this pop culture thing. We didn't know that it was a real thing. I My question is to all the scholars who are learning Torah, what happened? You didn't learn the the Rambam, the Iban Ezra, the Meri, all of these sources. They all talk about they a lot of things. They wrote about a ton of things. This is one of the things I wrote about [snorts] hundreds talk about this. >> I I'm saying that wrote about a lot of things. >> A very strong line. The Ron says that it's astrology that it's a magnificent wisdom that helps you recognize the greatness of Hashem. That's what the Ran says about astrology. >> I get it. But the Ran knew a lot of things that we don't know, right? The Ran was in ton of that's why he was the Ran and uh and what >> that's why Hashem created me with my mission. your entire mission about this >> right now for this curve period of time. Yes. To bring this to the world. Yes. And the people who got into it are blown away. It's lifechanging. >> Is there like a community of astrologers? >> So, it's growing. So, I want to create the courses to teach people. I want everybody to be I don't want people to come to me. I want everybody to be a kosher astrologer. You should learn how to deal with your kids. Understanding your children. This is another thing. People suffer. Why? Because parents grow up and they see their children and they whatever their sense sensibilities are, they tend to put it on their child. So if you have a a water a cancer pisces parent, they're sensitive and they have a child who's full of fire and like he's direct and it and so they try to tame them to be more like them and that's not kosher. The villagon says raise child according to his way according to his astrological pathway. So knowing your child's chart, you can understand what's happening for them. Why are they frustrated? You expect all kids to sit quietly and fine if you're a Taurus and you have grounded fine. But if you have fire and Uranus and Mars and Jupiter, what are you torturing this kid by making? >> Are you aware that uh chat GPT has a function that you could put your name, date of birth, exact hour you were born, exactly what you would ask for, and it gives you an entire Is it predicated on this or the problem with have their own uh interpretation? So there's two different questions because I'm very against chatbt because chat GBT does a surface search. It searches the web and picks up location. You don't know what information it's taking and it when it when you give it it the birth date and time of birth it completely gets wrong where your son is, where the thing I've done this a dozen times. It gets it completely wrong. >> Really? >> Yes. because I've had people that have done this um people close to me and they've told me they've done this and they were blown away by things that it gave them and and now I I never really like put too much stock in it. I sort of dismissed it but hearing everything you're saying I'm not connecting the dots that in essence chat GBT who's access to a lot of data a lot of information and can do it very quickly uh just like what you're doing key I would tell you Jack make sure you give it your actual create your chart and give it your chart give it your placements and then at least it's working with the accur information it can give you some now again it's going to give you some stuff I I say take everything with a grain of salt especially if it does anything fatalistic it might not be kosher sometimes I've seen them in the secular world, they'll say, "If you have Saturn here, you're going to have difficulty getting married or you're gonna have difficulty." >> It puts bad ideas in your head. >> Yes. Yes. And that's not kosher. That's not kosher. It doesn't remove your free will. You're not cursed to have, oh, I have a bad chart. That's not how it works. So, the philosophy, the the what Saturn is the same. Izza says the functions are the same in the secular world and the Jewish world. Saturn represents the same thing. But what it means and how you interpret it, the philosophical point, there's a way deliver it in a very positive way. So you'll take something >> in the true way. The Cuz what's positive? >> Is there any negatives that could be positive? >> What does that mean? I can tell you struggle. I can I can tell you a struggle. Yes. I can show right away that you've gone through incredible struggles. But that's not a negative. It's here to build something. I can show you the pathway. What that's here. >> Somebody's born with uh the anger um temper. Somebody's born they're based on his signs. >> That means they're here to be very assertive in their life. That's going to be an incredible gift. Now you have to hone your skills. That's the that's midas working on yourself. That's there's no that's the there's no free rides. But but that skill it's not an oh why was I born with a temp because you need to be assertive and aggressive in certain areas of your life that somebody else who doesn't have it can't do. >> Right? >> So every struggle is your gift. >> Well there you go. See that's what you're doing. You're spinning it. You're saying >> not spinning. It's truth. >> I I hear you. What you're saying is you have, you know, the tendency of getting angry and you can use that in a positive way or in a negative way and you're choosing to show it to them how amazing it is that you're going to be someone that has a lot of passion and you take things very seriously. Very good. Okay. So, you're part of what you do is displaying it in a very palatable way for them. >> The big picture of what's actually real and what Hashem intends for you. >> He's like a he's like a he's like a life coach and you're you're using reliable sources as well to get your message across. You're not just, you know, telling them what could be what you think it should be. You're actually saying this is actually in you already. >> This is who you think. This is possible. Right. So, this is an elevated way to really get confidence and to just, you know, level up in your life. Absolutely. >> That's what you're bringing. >> I think part of the challenge of why it's not been so common is it's it's complicated. >> Yes. >> So, you know, we're asking you to simplify it and you can't, right? >> Because, >> right, you have to understand what's going on. >> Deep truths are not simple. You know, you can't learn cabala. Give me the give me the the worth looking into. And uh you're saying the time that I was born uh doesn't mean anything to us right now. It'll just mean >> after I put information I create a chart for you super computer >> then yes then it mean there's a lot of information. >> You got to give us something. We can't leave you empty-handed. >> I feel like you're a magician of sorts, right? You divulge information like a like a not a what was the guy we had here? Um what what does he do? He's he's like a not a psychic. >> Michael Seaman. >> Yeah. What what is he? He's a hypnotherapist. a mentalist. There you go. A mentalist. Like he was able to guess what we were thinking. Like he told us to think of a place and he just guessed the place. It was the most random thing, right? Give me something. You're in that world. >> So I'm trying to I look This is not hebi. That's a big thing. The mi says that astrology is tea. It's nature. I'm trying to move it away from mysticism. I can't guess anything. There is a very component to this. >> No, there is no there is not if you study it. If you study it, it's not he. That's my point. Whoever was the first person to come up with the fact that the sun represents your emotions said a lot of things and reinterpret it in a certain way invite him. >> Is there somewhere charts? Yes, >> you have it somewhere written where Ramavinu said that the sun represents the the emotions. Is there a pock that says that >> the I have no problem with that but again [laughter] you know >> say for the mazes the brace maz there's a lot of rift they all they all wrote specifically what does Saturn mean what does Venus mean they all go into great details >> okay >> all right >> are you open to the idea of him doing a chart on us >> absolutely >> okay I can come back you know >> what the heck why not why not what I got to lose >> charts we can >> that's why I asked already how much he's planning a chart I'm curious to know I don't want to get sticker shock over here like we told >> I have to do a part two We'll do a part two, you know, just and I and just rip us apart. >> Okay. Okay. >> Let us know. This was pretty fascinating. I have to be honest with you. You know, I knew that there was a lot to be said >> about what goes on up there. Um, you know, for the naked eye, you see the moon, you you can't see the sun really, right? You see the sunset, you know, uh, shooting stars. Um, do those mean anything, by the way, in terms of I always wondered why we only make a blessing on the moon and and and nothing else in terms of what you see in the sky. Everything means something. Everything has purpose. Do we know what everything is? I mean, even just the moon and the sun. The moon is 400 times closer than the sun. It's also 400 times smaller. So, at the same they look how do we get an eclipse because they look the exact same size even though the sun is millions and millions times light. >> This is not coincidence. Everything is Hashem set up everything. >> Curious about a couple of things then we'll wrap it up real quick. So, number one is what happens if someone is born on Adar B which is the second of the month of Adar. So it doesn't go according to the English date or the Hebrew date. It's the moment you're born. We're taking a snapshot of the heavens. Where were all the planets? I don't care what you call it. If you call it, if you call it January, I don't care what you call it. >> You mentioned something that you know once in a year type of event, once in a lifetime type of event with the sun, etc. >> Yes. There's there's a number of them where you have once in I'll give you an example. I had a once in a lifetime sun Saturn. Saturn is about discipline and hard work and when your authority emerges. Literally when I had it once in a lifetime that's when my books arrived in New York and that established my authority and it was hard work of five years of hard work. So you can see in my lifetime that was designated by Hashem for this to come out and to build my authority in this area. So literally every person has all of these different >> and lastly like what she's saying any practical advice or thoughts when it comes to these kind of things of a person just like oh what month were you born? Oh, this. Oh, yeah. Like we said earlier, >> so you know, so you have to be careful. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, you know. So you have to really So I'd say start with my book, Kosher Astrology, a Jewish guide to celestial wisdom. It really can help you understand the Tora sources and astrology, what it can do. Couples chart, you can see how you're interacting with your wife, what's going on, where are the areas of tension, where are the areas of growth, what you're here to do, everything. It's all there. Yes. >> Friends and wonderful, wonderful stuff. Uh we always like to ask our guests a question which is you know I like to frame it this way these days. It's much easier to understand it. If you were to start a podcast tomorrow, who would be your first guest? [sighs] >> Wow, that's a very good question. >> Ask it. >> That's a very good question. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Well, you've been on a couple of podcasts. >> Um one of the people I really want to talk to is David Bashkin. I think he's somebody that uh he likes to delve into really deep into things. So, he's somebody that I would probably want to have him as a guest. >> Okay. Or it's not someone you know yet, though. >> No. No. I did send him my book. >> Uhhuh. And someone that you know that you'd be interested in uh talking to. >> I'm open to talking to everybody. [laughter] >> All right. Listen, I appreciate you have any questions for us. >> Yes. What do what do you think of astrology? >> I think it's a little too complex for the simple mind that you know this the average person that's walking down the street or the person that wants to know. It's a lot easier for us to understand. Okay. what month? What's your sign? Okay, cool. I can get along with you. >> If you can somehow make it easier as opposed to going to a website, reading a book, and having a three-hour study, I think it would be a little bit more uh accepting in the world of who we are today in society of, you know, the quick uh scrolling type of environment. >> I also think I'm one to give advice on this, but I think you're taking this possibly a little bit too far. You're getting a little bit too carried away. Like you're you're serious about this. Like this is the real deal for you. Uh, but there's a lot of entertainment value here. I think you might be missing out on like I would be very curious whether I even think it's fake. I would still be curious to know like what it says and what it means. And I would do like a 30 minute session, you know, um, just as a basic thing, right? Not to get too far. I feel like you're all or nothing right now. >> Here's the thing. So, Hashem created me with certain talents and abilities. I am intense. I want to go deep. I want to be do life-changing things. I don't want to do surface things. That's not who I am. I could do more popular things. Oh, Pisces means this and send out reels. It gets much more attention. That's not my skill set. I'm happy for somebody in the next 20 years. >> My No, my skill is I want to do lifechanging things. I want people to come to me who are ready to make big changes in their lives and really discover who they are. >> You want quality over serious? Yes. I don't want quantity. I'm not looking for the general. Oh, I'm curious. Tell >> I was going to say open a storefront. >> Let people come. You have lines out there. Give everybody 10 minutes. >> That's not what I want. I'm looking for people who are serious about their lives and their growth and who they are and where they're here, what they're here to do and want to discover it and they're ready for that, then come to me. You're curious, whatever, don't come to me. >> All right, cool. >> All right. Kudos to you. Thank you again for being here. We really, really appreciate it. It's nice to get to know you and uh you know what you stand for and all the research that you've done and thank you for letting it out to the world and simplifying it as much as you possibly can. Thank you again to all our listeners and subscribers and the Prime Source production team. That's a wrap. Thank you. Amazing. Thank you so much.