The more laws you follow makes you a better.……

Like who says necessarily that the [music] more laws you follow the makes you more Jewish than the more mitzvot you might do? You know, like why is the person who keeps kosher the strictest but is a jerk, why is that person more Jewish than somebody who doesn't keep kosher but is doing acts of loving kindness all over the world all the time? Right? Like to me, it's the values of Judaism and and the putting those values into action that are much more important to me and much more how I like to think about myself as a Jew than how many of these rules am I following today? >> Can you clarify something for me? Because you're coming from that world. So, you can help me better understand it or say the right word. >> The word religion and the [music] word observance. I've heard you say more observant. I've heard him say more religion. I'm curious where that collides. It's like what what's your when someone says religious as a Jew, what does that mean? When someone says observant, like what's what's the right frame of of putting it, you know, in terms of not having any negative connotation [music] or what? >> So, like I'll say like when when when Ushi said like, well, you grew up not religious. Like to me, I'm like, well, no, that's not true.