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[Music] conceived question from Heather quite a few good questions actually and I thought maybe we spent a little bit of time although I did prepare the parsha unchoke team I do it to admit I only got a few verses in you know timewise I think that's like that's a good chunk of the time right there but then I didn't look here at the question I know that I know that there's going to be some issues here so it's okay if I share the question so she asked I have a question about the seven Noahide laws they're all very nice laws but seems to me they separate people from God I mean what I mean is that they seem too simple those who want to join themselves to the Lord will accept the whole Torah when the Shia comes we'll not the whole world recognize the Torah are the seven Noahide laws just for this okay so the last part of the question I want to try to assist my batteries not charging connected source is not sufficient the battery's discharging faster than discharging minimize your but the rice usage while charging okay I'm out that means I just hope that I was like my body was halfway right so okay I hope you don't lose it when we say this world this world meaning pre messianic or I mean I think really so as far as we know the law is not going to change when the Messiah comes the situation around the world will change we can discuss that okay so yes they are very nice laws but I want you to know that there's a huge difference in this there's basically in my mind there's three different types of Ben Knox okay a Ben Nowak who came to these laws on his own I don't know if we discussed this on the table so there's a been gnaw who realizes these laws are good laws they're good for the world this way thank you they maintain society it's good for the world the next level is what they call what the pious of the Gentiles who actually believe this is god-given it was given 6 to Adam a seventh one to Noah and then reiterated retold spoken out by God at Mount Sinai so for the world to keep he's called a pious amongst the going amongst the Gentiles he's a mother's that's the definition of a been off what one who is on the lower level I'll call it and that lower level does not receive world to come it's just about this world like measure for measure he can't do it on his own it's good for this world that's what he's gonna get he's gonna get whatever's good this world for that purpose because that's why he's keeping them but the other one who really truly understands and I would call them part of the Jewish religion they're not Jewish but they buy into what we you know called the mess the sciatic revell revelation okay I would call it a Gentile who practice Judaism that doesn't mmunity meaning you're not keeping the sixteen law you're not just keeping the 613 laws but you are on an optional level keeping as many as you want not obligated you're not obligated okay okay well we can go into each one of these a little bit more and then there's a third level and that's called a gear toe shop we call a fourth levels a gear setting which is a total convert to Judaism but a gear toshow is one who accepted the seven Noahide laws because God said so but they went a step further and they went in front of three Jews a bait then a quart of Jewish law I don't they raised the right hand there's my left and they put on the Bible I don't know but they made an oath they they they publicly proclaim which means a higher level of responsibility a very high-level responsibility but it allows them to live in the Land of Israel and be treated as an equal Nicki pork they can desecrate their Shabbat that's a mock locusts let's just say my clothes it could be an argument not so clear they could that's correct Shabbat but they're not obligated and Shabak the way the Jews are for sure again they keep the seven Noahide and they optional now there's a statement I don't know if I've made the statement before it's it's gonna sound very counterintuitive we're all done hard right we want to like make the Torah part of who we are but if someone says to you there's more reward in fulfilling a commandment because you're commanded then fulfilling a optional commandment let's say you're not commanded but you you wanted to do it let's take for a woman okay women are exempt from positive mitzvahs that are time bound when welcome into the reason although maybe superficially understand that she's a different role she's involved with the bringing up of the children she may have 10 20 who knows how many is very busy and how can she stop at the right time to say the SMAW so she'll say in their own time or to put on tefillin or deduce anything that's time bound but on a more mystical reason is because she has her own internal clock and she's connected to a God in a whole different way remember the word mitzvot means to connect and if she's not commanded there's no need she's already on a level where she's connected let's say through intuition internally all different reasons why I won't start with you women are less obligated in many of the mysteries but the general rule is all the negative Commandments the women are all again just like men are and when we say negative god forbid I don't I just want to reiterate there's no net Commandments that have a negative connotation we're talking about don'ts versus the do's and therefore all the don'ts she has to keep the dues on the other hand that are time bound you know specifically periodic timetable that it's then they're not obligated that helps a lot when it's about shabad is a positive comment any positive commandment that also has a negative commandment connected to it she's obligated in everything so for example Shabbat is to remember and to guard so remember is positive the guard is a negative you know don't don't violate it so she's obligated to Shabbat you know there's just a science to it it's not just a off-the-cuff statement I make today who are promoting for the Gentiles that they should not come to for almost that they should just remain and I think it's a wonderful mitzvah to if somebody's interested in becoming observant and dropping into Israel to teach them Torah and to show them the blessings that come as a byproduct of living in harmony with it yeah I'm gonna raise my volume a little bit I'm not sure it's up all the way okay that's better look we are very much interested in people Stephen women non-jews no reason why not to connect to God through the through the additional mitzvahs no reason not to so I'm not really I'm not saying I encourage it but if someone's learning the scripture learning the Torah and they decide they don't want to eat pork I think that it's alright I think it's great I know I'm not really you know we're not going out teaching the Gentiles that they should it they're obligated to think if they say is there any benefit well its benefit beneficial to us on a spiritual level only if you buy into the idea that it's the part of the sciatic revelation if you're on the lowest level as I've been no off I'm not so sure I wouldn't care but like someone who wants to come closer to God to have a more intimate relationship they may feel that they're in their neshama in their soul a connection with Hashem come sulkus sitting in a Sukkah or taking a lulav in an S rug why not give that you know helps you connect pray prayer is one of the 613 mitzvahs it's not one of the seven Noahide laws why not that's the way to connect to a chef so I'm almost worried you follow what I'm saying that's actually going to get into one of the papers I gave you which we'll see shortly if you look number two I sent out some papers so some the Rambam discusses a lot of the difference between Gentiles so on page 166 I don't know if that what little what comes up when you hit them yeah okay so in number 10 Moses only gave the Torah and mitzvot as an inheritance to Israel because the Torah says it the Torah is an inheritance of the congregation of Jacob and to all those who desire to convert from among the other nations the converse will be the same as you so what happens to the non Jew that doesn't want to convert it's not his Torah he recognizes this is God's Torah and it was given to the Jews for safety safekeeping and they keep the seven and they go to heaven and keep the seven ago dead and whatever additional misses they want to do on an optional level it's not as great as if you did it on an obligated loaders so I never discussed that what why is that I say that's counterintuitive right guy walks down the street and says oh you give you give charity and I give charity I give charity because my heart is open and you know empathetic and I just feel so bad for this guy and I'm giving from my heart you you cold-blooded person you're only giving close God said so you see the difference things become guess what the counter to it is now gonna kick in the reason why the one who's doing it because God said so is greater yeah it's because that's why we have free will that's why we have the counter or you know intuition the Yates aha when there's once you're commanded then you say hmm who said make me right like if it's coming from your heart okay great but once you command it there's a friction that develops remember with your L means your L means struggled with God yeah it's all that the struggle it's all have that you're overcoming and yes there is a great mala there is a great advantage to making your heart in tune with the Mitchells but to do it because your heart tells you is not the same as no because God tells you God telling you is a greater so our goal is to make them parallel and match up as Isaac kind of referred you know it's just if it's just ritualistic that is something missing and if it's just because it makes me feel good there's a whole lot missing so we want to get to where I want to do it God wants me to do that's the ultimate reason I'm doing it and hopefully I'm working out in the flesh and and the emotions and coming to terms why God wants me and what I should be feeling at the moment when I do it so notice in the in the in the commentary it's actually on page 167 it's the same page that's open that it seems like learning that if you look at the first commentary it sounds like that what we just learned is that a Gentile who studies Torah is worthy of death at the hands of heaven this was being haka 9 but it does it really mean that when I get that through it maybe we'd go back to the previous a you fate or a yacht that tow our that's in number nine you know that your fat toe Aris now but you went to war and you killed all the men and you found a beautiful woman and you wanted to take her home to be a wife this is this is one of those things that are counterintuitive also in non-jewish Society rape is extremely prevalent in war I'm going to tell you something most fascinating thing that the Palestinians have accused us of being racist racist because we have not raped any their women oh you look at us like we're animals no we're forbidden bins a rape but when the going gets tough the tough get going no the separate between the men and the boys when you go to war and you find this beautiful woman there's a process okay you could take her home not as a captive but as a wife you have to treat her like a wife and you don't have sex with her for 30 days you know let it just you know your Bloods boiling you got all the adrenaline going you're throwing grenades you're you're shooting your m16s and I don't know if you went to the to the shooting range when you leave a shooting range I mean maybe that only the first three times you you like your Adrenaline's going have you ever gone to the shooting range oh yeah oh yeah so you know it's life at least maybe even hunting I don't know but I think she reads a little bit more action-packed so imagine in war you're like your Bloods boiling I mean something's going on and you're not allowed to rape a woman you could take there's a wife because you know the serve property to a certain extent the enemy and you have to treat like a white but there's a whole process for 30 days she sits in your house very ugly ugly looking meaning she's not allowed a you know cut her hair and cut her fingernails and she's like today I don't walk through house maybe are pretty but back then and maybe you look like a witch I don't know but the whole process of you know she's where she's wearing mourning loathing because she's like separating from her parents she's actually going through a process of conversion herself and after 30 days you can consummate that we'll call it the marriage anyway so that would that's what I mentioned before so I'm just saying what does it say here Iommi does not wish to abandon her idol worship after 12 months should be executed I mean look you just killed everybody the enemy you told me at the enemy you executed the enemy you take her in you're saving her life okay you're gonna you know but if she decides she wants to remain an idol worshiper she's executed fine no problem but simply a treaty may not be made with the city which desires to accept some peace with true settlement until its inhabitants renounce idol worship destroy their places of worship and accept the other seven and accept the other of the seven universal laws commands it denotes the sentence for every child gentle does not accept these Commandments must be executed he's not under undisputed if he is under are undisputed okay so I think what he's talking about is a not a Gentile who is not interested in accepting the seven laws that's the kind of Gentile who's forbidden to study Torah because their their their idea of studying Torah is really only to argue with you if they're interested in whether any level of conversion or accepting the seminal high laws is a pious person so then their whole learning is a righteous journey but if they're not interested they're still worshiping their idols then they're not allowed to study Torah but someone who wants to learn more about the seven Noahide laws or about the optional mitzvahs to do you know I'm saying optional meaning they're not going to convert to the 600 ad six of the mitzvahs besides the seven so studying the laws that you are going to fulfill or if you're interested in learning more about the possible conversion no problem whatsoever okay it's really it was it was number ten which started us off and if we go now to the next page takes me a while to open up is there any other question Heather on that no that's that wasn't answer this is very homey I think I do want to say yeah I also want to say within Judaism we have yes really call Olivia and con him in other words the throw tribes but lady refrained from the involvement with the de volcán camp not only that there there was a they were the clergy when we went down into Egypt they were not enslaved they were not enslaved why because they were the clergy the Egyptians understood that the clergy are exempt from hard labor and work except for the army service every society basically has that concept so to when we went down so the lady was learning they were involved in Torah Torah and we're gonna get to one of the last pages very important that I said that how did I get to this how do we get to decide yes oh so basically in Judaism you have yes really that means the regular any one of the other besides lady the other 11 tribes they're called Israelites yes sir Aileen that level of a called in heat in English or Yiddish Tom a Jew you know just a regular yet just a regular Jew then you have the Libyan which is a higher class of what responsibilities they had a lot of work in the temple okay they got privileges along with responsibilities come privileges and then the next is the kahani of the pro hype the hype reader the priestly class even though the beam are part of the premium it basically the priests but they're not the priestly class then you have the colony which were part of lavey because our own motion here we're lady there were the children of Lavy but uh but our own was elevated to this position and his children and they were the carny so do you think I have any jealousy do you think the idle feel that I'm any closer to God some just like its trail no I got lazy I got car need that are friends with they have certain jobs you know they bless the people they go to the temple or hopefully soon they'll go to the temple to do the work in the temple it's it's like it I have to accept the fact that I don't think we have any in fighting there's no jealousy within us about the fact that I'm a Jew but I'm not in Israel orally and I'm not a laborer Cohen this doesn't come up so when the torrent caused the Jewish people when I say the Jewish people you know about the Israeli nation the twelve tribes mom let's call on him you are a kingdom of priests that's in relative to the rest of the world so if we're not jealous of the Kohanim why would you be jealous or feel that you're not any closer to God because you're not Jewish you could be a bad nah keeping the seven laws as a pious person with hopes to eventually go for under the based in put up your right hand which is my left and it's make an oath the public declaration you're going to keep the seven or high laws and you want to live in Israel and you're treated just like a Jew when I say that I don't mean in a minyan of being counted but when it comes to charity when it comes to helping all the laws of assisting on a social welfare system you're on par equal okay okay you're you're our guests and it's your home it's called an alien resident you Mohnish a resident really a full-fledged resident of the Holy Land of Israel we're gonna get to it we're gonna see if is right a sham soon so I guess I went to the next page however someone who did not does not wish to set the Torah mitzvahs shouldn't be forced to there's no are you guys on page 168 yes by the same token Moses is commanded by the Almighty to compel all you haven't sister of the world to accept the laws given to Noah's descendants it does seem there's a big argument how obligated are we the ones who are being persecuted to tell the world they got to keep the seven Noahide laws so basically people today or feel that we got to get our own act together before we can tell them how many Jews are assimilated how many Jews are not keeping the 613 if only we did it would be much easier to tell them they got to keep seven but there are people like me people I'm really not outspoken but many outspoken and they feel very a big responsibility to try and to any non Jew they meet to try to teach about the seven Noahide laws which I have to admit I do I do it by myself to a certain extent so that's what Moses the stole to do and command and we were supposed to do that if one does not accept these laws he should be executed it's this is look when Messiah comes and sin heads here I mean that's the law okay right now that doesn't apply but I want to tell you in Judaism many people have said after the Holocaust a statement in Yiddish but I'll say in English it's really hard to be Jewish you know with all the persecution and get a job can't do this you know what I say it's hard to be a non Jew because if you don't accept these laws you're executed not only that they're really tough if I violate any one of the we call the seven Noahide laws for a Jew it's not an all hide law it's a Jewish law then there's no death penalty there's no death penalty for stealing I have to get back what I stole if I get caught and I lied I got a pay double but if it non Jew steals he's executed so I say it's tough to be a dodger you're here a person who formally accepts these laws is called a resident aliens so when they say formally we're all going in front of the court I'm making this public proclamation this applies in any place meaning you're allowed to do it outside the land but it makes you a resident of the land when you come and visit or you can stay you're not you're more than you're not just a guest it's your of your home if you want this acceptance must be made oh by the way what are we reading you know reading the Rambam okay I just wanted to clarify we're reading and the laws of kings and their Wars okay anyone who agrees to circumcise himself Heather this does not apply to you and allows 12 months to pass without circumcising himself is considered as one of the nations in other words someone says I want to convert I'm the process so he tooks up he takes upon himself to convert but a whole year goes by and he doesn't finish it off part of the process is circumcision so I guess start over with the guy like what's going on we're not taking them too seriously this is all the way back I'm Bob's day and it's of course taking it familiar sources we're now on page floor if you can go to page 4 this would be as soon as it opens I'll tell you 170 11 anyone who accepts upon himself the fulfillment of these submitters and his precise and their observance is considered one of the pious remember I said there were two and Hebrew it's one is called hawkmail almost alum that means the wise of the nation's and I see they were so alarmed or the pious and what's the difference so this one who's called pious the one who accepts it because God commanded it at Mount Sinai he's among the Gentiles and will merit a share in the world to come you talk about being close to God you could be a Gentile and you get heaven you know that's one of the things about Judaism that we're not we don't say like oh you have to believe like us you go to hell I mean in every detail we say look it's just a seven you go to heaven I know what's the problem and you how general and universal and humanitarian these laws are so it's like if you can't handle that you don't belong in the world you know what I mean so and you go to heaven this supplies remember who this the pious one who's one heaven this applies only when he accepts them in thousand because the Holy One blessed to be commanded them in the Torah and informed us through the Oral Torah through Moses our teacher even though previously Moses the North's descendants were commanded to fill them in other words six were given to Adam a seventh was given to Noah and at the revelation in the year 2448 God proclaimed to the world to two sets of laws seven okay laws you know in the first set of Commandments there's 620 letters so the 620 letters 613 represents each one of the 613 mitzvahs and the other seven the last two words are a share lyrica to your neighbor those are lasted seven letters they represent the seven Noahide laws court to some core into others the seven universal rabbinic principles and laws were given at Mount Sinai that's hard to understand grass but I I like it's very easy to consume this seven Noahide laws thing representing the seven letters however if he fulfills them out of intellectual conviction meaning he thinks it's just good for him he feels good you know when he does these things he's not a resident alien nor of the pie so you're already broken into different details you could be pious but not living the land so the red the resident nailing is the one who went in front of the baked any more from the three sages and declared publicly so you have three levels a guy who's on his own decides this is good we'll call him wise up he's wise he's a wise guy but he's not he's not pious the pious one is the one who understands that they come from God and the highest level of a non Jew is to live in the land of Israel have the ability land living land Israel by taking that oath it proclamation in front of the rabbi's getting a certificate no you get on the airplane no no I'll there could be a discount you know your home your home and your home so I don't know if that blacks here up a lot of things Heather yeah that helped I didn't understand when I was in Israel what I was handed some like brochures on the seven Noahide laws and I didn't understand completely so that helps a lot well we don't keep the little man we don't keep the Torah law in the land of Israel properly because we don't have a righteous government we don't have conveys its seed we don't have the Messiah Messiah yet we don't have a Sanhedrin and a majority the Jews I'm almost afraid to say it a more enjoying the Jews are not yet ready for Messiah I'm hoping I'm wrong one day biz right said we will be there and things will be running quite differently um okay let's go to the next page and see that was that was what page was that for that's gonna fire okay I think at this point I skipped around not sure if it's a continuation or it's uh oh no so it's really like I copied this because of the comment at the bottom in other words then chapter nine goes into the into the seven milk high laws so you know what they are pretty simple right yeah but anyway this was a continuation of the previous now look at where it says nor of their wise men so there's a Yemenite manuscript you know that the Rambam when he lived he had sent letters to yemen you know where yemen is right America didn't go to war against Yemen but you still know that because we helped Saudi Arabia against Iran over there the Houthis so anyway there was a lot of manuscripts coin a lot of communication between the Jews in Yemen a time to the Ramallah tell about thousand years ago that there's a substitute but rather of their of their wise men for this race rather of their wise men now in other words there's a an argument if it's in the script in the text in other words which text is more authoritative so I just wanted to show you that that there isn't it there is a discussion about that last point the debris the bottom line according to the popularize accepted text the Gentiles themselves must realize that their existence is only for the sake of the land for the sake of Israel and for the sake of the Torah anyone who does not understand this concept has not reached complete wisdom in other words there's a little bit of the scrim see what is it listeners in a wise guy had a pious guy you know but these are important concepts to understand let's go to the next page that was 5 6 ok let's see where we're at are you on page 232 now 232 I don't mind reading the line that's from I guess a lot of three but we're really going to go for the main thrust of the matter is whatever was just spoken about the Torah its statutes and laws are everlasting we may not add to them or subtract for them fine if the King will arise from the house of David who is learning in Torah and observant of the mitzvahs as prescribed by the written law and the oral law as David his ancestor was and will compel all of Israel to know he's we're talking about religious coercion here so it doesn't sound like all the Jews have to be ready for mushy octamer she have to come but I still think that a majority should be and hopefully will be so but anyway there will be a religious coercion because he's going to compel all of Israel to walking away the Torah and reinforce the breach sorry the breaches in the observance meaning they're obviously not altar observant and fight the worse of we may with assurance consider him Messiah mm-hmm that's what machine a still do okay I mean you know it doesn't say anything about saving us I mean this is the Jewish concept right it's not okay we also go into that fight if he succeeds in the above now one thing that's just considered with insurance to be the Messiah in Hebrew I'm gonna look where it says he's in Hebrew talk kescott kescott Summa shock meaning he's likely the most best candidate it doesn't really mean that he's a hundred percent I know in English it sounds like it may it says we may with assurance consider him the Messiah in Hebrew it says I raised that myth the head Scott Hozuki means like in really good standing to be but one second he's not finished he's not finished his job if he succeeds and what we just hopes talked about and he builds the temple in his place and he gathers the dispersed of Israel yes then what do you say vivid I means 100% beautiful okay Baruch Hashem is Rakesh ebony review may know our main seller we want machine we want mushy it's not opening for me okay here it is love it snag everyone have that joy 234 he will then improve the entire world motivating all the nations to serve God together so in other words BB well he's not mushy off but let's say you know that figure whoever builds BP ships you know so then you know Trump before he decides anything you know that affects the world he's gonna I have to ask you know the king of Israel me I gotta ask the Tamela HaMashiach the King Messiah the righteous one of Israel it says I will and what did God say what is this afonya say I will make the pew peoples pure of speech so this is talking about Sabra this is all the people will speak a clear language which we understand to be and they will all call upon the name of God okay we're gonna call out in the name of God Claude Bechet Hashem you Dave Ave I just want you to know we don't say that name good look it through you the whole series on why but we use the same letters javea the name of existence of ayah means existence and it's the same letters you'd in the hand of Oban a in a different order that's who he is he was is and will be we're talking about the unifying existence the unifying purpose of existence is him I mean you know whether you look at the matrix these movies or you know the our feet are moving these different movies where they finally come to you know and sometimes they you know where they call those movies you know a science-fiction level but we're somehow everything is all connected everything is one that's the whole car that's what judy not that god is one as opposed to two but that god is all there is and we're connected to him how aware are we sometimes we have to do actions Nick we have this motto all deeds matter oh it's matter okay we should start a protest that's all kids better and we clop on the name of javea the existence and serve him with one purpose if he did not succeed to disagree meaning the Messiah this potential candidate for Messiah right he didn't succeed say he was only in the potential candidate aspect or he was killed he surely is not the Redeemer promised by the Torah rather he should be considers all the other proper and complete kings of the Davidic dynasty a guy so we're not gonna call him a false messiah not by a false messiahs will be actually worshipped or thought he was and he was a faker no it just didn't work every generation there was always and is a messiah but he's only gonna come and be ready when we're ready like when the world is ready when when the time is right and but he's there it's not like he's coming out of thin air he has to be born like a baby right you gotta wrap his you know change his diapers feed him he's gonna belch and he's gonna go to school and he's a human being he's a human being for God's sake so he's going to talk a little bit about Christianity in a negative way but he talks about the positive aspects - so remember this is the Rambam you guys can take it or leave it if he did not succeed to this degree was killed Shirley's not the Redeemer promised by the Torah rather you should be considerably all the other proper and complete Kings who died in other words like Hezekiah Hezekiah was called the Messiah I mean he could have been the Messiah but we weren't ready it wasn't the right time God only caused him to arise in order to test the many as Daniel says and some of the wise men will stumble to try them to refine to clarify until the appointed time because the set time is in the future just wasn't the right time this is the Rambam Maimonides he says jesus of nazareth who aspired to be the messiah was executed by the court was also alluded in Daniels prophecies as it says 11:14 the vulgar your people shall exalt themselves in an attempt to fulfill the vision but they shall stumble okay if you don't want to get discussion I understand we could just go there okay don't you think it's important for us you know who are believers in Yeshua to talk about this I mean it's I hate this let's get by it and you know it seems important deal okay I just don't want you to think I'm going to teach you and anything in the way of false teachings or and it may sound arrogant but I just saying that so it says here in the bottom yeah since in the bottom right corner Jesus of Nazareth who aspired to be decided by the court the Jews did not actually carry out the execution for crucifixion is not one of the Torah's method of execution rather after condemning him to death I have to go to the next page the Sanhedrin what did they do which which page are we on right now seven let's go to eight handing him over to the Roman authorities who execute as a rebel against Roman rule go ahead what's your what's on your mind it's he's making a pretty conclusive statement here he's saying that basically if you know if you if you're believing in this Jesus or this Yeshua then you're an idol worshipper I mean if I if I'm summarizing this correctly am i or am I not he's gonna say a lot worse things than that I'm not sure he's saying that yet he's saying that there have been false messiahs someone who aspired to be and he's not the only one I mean uh this year but you had the said Rajesh apatite's P yeah it happens all the time even in the Catholic well let's say the Christian religion you've had people who claim to be right even today I don't know mr. Mooney I don't know some of these cults maybe we're not Colts I don't know believed to be Jesus and Carnegie no reincarnation of Jesus right you mean you've had it I don't know if the Mormons had it exactly I don't really follow all the different sects but I know there are sex out there that have false prophets and false messiahs so sure and all throughout every age absolutely this text in Daniel 11 14 though is speaking of the King of the South which was never attributed to Yeshua 2,000 years ago the King of the South was a prophecy that was mode or focusing on Ptolemy in Egypt and his conflict with Antiochus in the north and just a little excerpt he says this is alluded to so one of the questions is there another asked was about doodool prophecies so I wouldn't say this is a actual prophecy about Jesus but it says it's alluded to in at least according to Rambam the way he understands it cuz he brings it as being an illusion a hint for that a lot of people have alluded that it could fit in that case if they interpreted that yeah so in other words it could fit into a dual prophecy for anybody in the future that would come and be as we says vulgar by exalting themselves in any attempt to fulfill a vision those would be times in which many will resist the king of the south the more violent ones among your people will rebel in order to fulfill their vision but they will fail now we know in the cookb our revolt right yeah Bar Kokhba was very violent I'm using Man O'War and he had to lead the rebellion but Yeshua course never was violent in that way so you have this idea well we talked about cutting the words of God so there was a more reason to think that Barco flow was the Messiah that Jesus followers well even to say well Rabbi Akiva even followed him and unfortunately was disappointed so the question is was he when was he a failed Messiah or a false messiah in other words if somebody was a candidate and was killed or you know it didn't work out because we weren't ready I call that a failed Messiah but a false messiah whether you even believe and I don't know where you believe whether you believe that Jesus actually existed as described the New Testament or perhaps in the okay you know in the in the Talmud how we describe his existence it's I think that's kind of irrelevant but he's going to know this I think you bring up a good point in that you know anybody who has it is my personal interpretation I'm a no scholar but if a person has decided you know either through their intellectual studies of Torah or their their breakdown of New Testament scripture or whatever if they've decided in their heart that Yeshua is not a candidate for Messiah then there's nothing you can say or do to change their mind in the same way you know you can say that somebody who is already locked in and decided that the you know Yeshua is Messiah is gonna you know he's gonna see all the positive attributes and he's only gonna see that he's not gonna he's not gonna see the truth when you present it to him so I mean either either way a person has to come to that decision basis based on faith right I mean it's it's a faith issue one way or the other I mean cuz either you either you either if you inherently see him throughout the tour of the Tanakh or you don't are you've already dismissed that that could be a possibility and you don't see it so it's like instead of it thinking of it as a Ultima saya the aspect that he didn't fulfill being Malec the vide or the zabi high priest the : you know he needs to be a high priest he needs to be : he needs to rebuild the temple to truly be defined as mushiya so it's more of a failed mashiac or not fulfilling all the prophecies of messiah we can understand that no one to this point has done that and so when a person comes that does fulfill that everyone is gonna recognize him as mushiya's that's that's the Jewish view I mean so important for people to understand because it's actually unifying it's not divided divisive that's a good point yeah like Christianity was extremely divisive now you're gonna go into it a little bit less we're on page 236 can there be a greater stumbling block than Christianity all the prophets spoke of the Messiah as the Redeemer of Israel and it's Savior again when we use these terms we don't mean saving from sin this Messiah the deliverer had us know like Moses was Messiah huh he was our Savior and Hashem said he would send a prophet like him to mow shame and he needs to deliver us from the oppression of whatever fault system is reigning over us instead of mushiya yeah I read in the Torah that no one else can save you from your sins no man can do that in Deuteronomy 24:16 and as he killed 1820 eautiful and we're gonna measure out the ship that was one of your other questions about people dying for other people's sins we'll talk about that shortly sure keep now Heather just said that no no man can save you from your sins right well we don't we have examples in the Torah of you know people looking upon let's use the example a month ago or so we had the parsha where Moses you know these snakes came into the camp the Vipers came in and killed to the Israelites and and Moses was axed asked to maybe God told him to put the snake around the pole and stick it up in the air and by observing that pole and that snake they you know that represented something to them that made them whole right it saved them right you're having you probably understand that all of the symbols of the Torah are used to point to Jesus for um Christians so that's why we write well I'm not necessarily saying I mean you have to interpret it one way or the other but I'm just saying I'm just clarifying that God uses symbols and things to to save people I mean to you know save them right but nothing I told when I talk about saving sin that was not a saved be saving from sin okay there was a well look at it Ezra the shed will look at it but it was not a saving from said there's a recognizing that the power comes from a Shem and there's always measure for measure after Sabbath was for me the big misnomer that that I hear people you know when people talk about Christians and you know I think you have to distinguish between you know does a truth follower of Yeshua it's he following after this this humans I mean is he is he looking at a picture of this guy this white guy with a beard and you know looking at his idol on the wall and saying that saving me you know or that cross there that's that saves my sin at saving me from my sins or is he putting his faith in God you know his his faith in the father is well to me I've never considered myself an idolatrous person I don't I don't look at this human example or this human or guy this figure and say to myself you know what III believe that this guy you know this because I believe that this guy walked on the earth um you know I'm right with God now no it's right it does the work we have to put our faith in God right I mean for one quick do I have it here Yeah right before we go further in the Opera shouldn't open to what he's gonna get dancer for you he just wants to take it to the soul world rather than just speaking it no there is a few different topics I want to discuss and I just have to throw out this verse right now as an idea the truth is I wrote the verse the actual verse down but I have it here in the good wine I just have to find it I think it's on h-hold on one second how we doing Isaac great good we love our time together this is such a blessing that we do missed you last night that hey okay I just want you to look up in proverbs 16 verse 6 okay one second I wonder what your Bible says my Bible says the tested vmf Yahoo part of them can we wait for it to school yeah oh yeah you know we can repeat it when you get the hose bag sir yeah Ted grace and he met truth atone for iniquity and people turned from evil through the fear of Adonai what do you think that means literally all deeds matter that's right your right to life is what atone for iniquity so like you said before there's almost like a scale and your deeds of grace and truth are offsetting those whether those deeds of unrighteousness whether it done through ignorance or purposeful or however they come about grace and truth if I if I tell you that somebody's dead you can actually atone for someone else's sick but that's like one of those default buttons or reset buttons that head pushes okay the idea is that you're left to fix yourself we're given this world for work right we were putting the garden Eden Eden to work ourselves what's her what's the word what's the work don't believe if slightly righteous passes on to the next world and he was so righteous that he took upon himself but what's the difference whether I believe it or not let me reread that for Terrence now so he can understand what you're saying in context he just read proverbs 16 verse 6 which says grace and truth atone for iniquity and people turn from evil through the fear of Hashem you name it man yeah Oh oldies matter so let's just say old deeds matter whether you go to heaven or hell it's up to you right whether you get a blessing or a curse it's up to you God set it up amen yeah if it's true which I do believe there are going to be times where righteous people will die and their death or even their life even while they're alive the suffering that they go through will atone for other people's sins but that's not something that is dependent on me I have to be responsible for my actions yeah what happens is that he absorbed my sin remember the concept we've been talking about over and over again about collective responsibility that we're when I sin we all suffer when I do good acts we all gain so because this righteous person suffers if Moses was equal to all the Jews remember there was a point in time God says I'm gonna wipe them all out and start over with you that means Moses was equal to all of us if he didn't want to scale one side and you put all the Jews on the other so any suffering that he went through was an atonement or can serve as an atonement for us but that's not our religion that's not our Creed is not based on do whatever I want and just make sure I believe that he's gonna carry my sin yeah it's it's the thing that God decides on an individual moment-to-moment basis who's righteous who's not what sin should be you know accounted for under his suffering or his death there's nothing have is that I oftentimes here said you know Christians or whatever I don't even consider myself a Christian I believe that Yeshua was the Messiah based on my own interpretation of Scripture and it's a faith thing I think it's a faith thing either direction you go but you shoot you know the big misunderstanding that I hear is that Yeshua was a you know somebody who led people astray he led people off and taking their eyes off of the father and that's not what I see when I read the scripture he consistently gives all glory to the father he says okay but they did he okay but he said but did he feel what the ROM mom said and that's the difference any of them the kingdom any of them any of them say that again explain it to me building the temple like to making the teaching the whole world to observe Torah that's no one is called mashiac until that happens let me address what what I was getting at was what if Yeshua said it until until one every jot and every tittle of this law is fulfilled I'm sorry I'm on the paraphrasing but not one not one jot or tittle of this law will be by no means pass away well by means pass away until all is filled in the law and I think many Jewish men understood that right so he tried yeah what what's the point well anybody can walk around saying it but if he said what he said no he wasn't when are you I agree fine but what did he do here that all Jews believe the Messiah will be doesn't seem like he even fulfilled any of them number one and number two I say to you I am the Messiah and none of you are gonna die until everything that I say comes about and now not just one generation how many generations could it be let's just say 2,000 years as I don't have any generations and they still haven't come about well again I just wanted to say and I'm reading this it says can there be a greater stumbling block all the prophets spoke of Messiah Redeemer of Israel and it's saver who had gathered there dispersed and strengthen their Mitzvah that's exactly what I'm saying Aaron I don't believe when I read the scriptures I don't see him that's what I see him doing I'm sorry because I know he just you know you just sit you just someone say you just said you just said one line oh go back to the previous page what what made the Messiah the Messiah so I mean I have to firm my v to go back join us we have a new guest here this morning that come study with us if you go back to page 232 that's the law number four if the King will rise from the house of David who is learning in Torah and observant of the Misses as prescribed by the written law and the oral law as David his ancestor were was and will compel we're talking about religious coercion who gathers people to do the right thing and everyone is then living at our lifestyle I did not see that happen during Jesus's lifetime listen and reinforce your pitches we don't want to make him sound Greek let's call him Yeshua he wasn't a great guy I mean that's where that's where the big problem for me comes in is everybody yes I see that he was definitely there was this coercion and this something that came into the church some years later after this Jewish guy Yeshua walked on the earth there's a lot of things that can be said of his followers or people who who claim to be his followers in the years after his but on when he was when this guy walked on the earth this a bush guy Yeshua he did not lead people away from Torah okay Charlie did strengthen the numbers tarish we have to at least two different scenarios one is the tablet scenario which is probably going to be very hard for you to accept and then you have within will called the Christian world you don't really have an authority or a believability or an integrity of the text until at least a hundred years after his death and I might even go further to say perhaps whatever it was even there could have been edited and only Canon I eyes you know in the real year 325 so let's say so when you say you don't believe in the Greek Jesus but you leave you believe in the Jewish you're sure which I get I get so you want to go back as far as you can to the original text or testimonies as you can I mean all I can this is a guy who okay I'm gonna tell you that his teachings listen you just said it you just said it you just said it he taught her everything that is worthwhile in the New Testament that they claim Jesus said 98% of it is Old Testament stuff because he was okay okay - does it make okay that doesn't make him Messiah again right what is Messiah is a messiah I'm using your word so hopefully the one not necessary picture on the wall that I'm gonna believe in but the concept that he came and died for my sins or as he just came to fulfill what the Rambam says because if he came to fulfill it the Rambam says you just read that last line in you know like your wife says it's pretty much any Jew any outreach rabbi doing that what about go back to page 232 chat halakhah for if the King will rise to the house of David first of all we don't even know his father biological father was do we know where is there a text in the new in the Old Testament that our Messiah will be this born from a virgin okay doesn't say that anywhere and if that's true that means that was the only time come there's our whole religion is wrong by are still waiting around and every generation there's a potential Messiah what happened to all the generations before the years here over 33 or 70 whatever what happened as a guy as it was not a potential Messiah because he wasn't born from a version I'd be like so how many of them came from the house of Judah Genesis 49 how many of them how many of them were born in Nazareth oh we're sorry I want you to stay there born in Nazareth I want you know the Messiah does not have to be born in Bethlehem what he does this has to come from the seat of David who comes from Bethlehem this is a there's a lot of misunderstandings follow this what does Bethlehem mean bait left him the house of bread the king's job is to provide food is to provide security right you hear from Trump man I mean are saying he's the king and or Messiah but the leader that will call King for practical purposes is to provide security right the enemy shouldn't come in and welfare people should have roof over their heads have a job food on their table whether it's two chickens and every pot or two cars in every garage you know you get what I'm saying faith lefm means what if our Messiah is not some mystical figures going to die for our sins that's not Judaism that's a new religion whether you like it or not is based on Greek culture and philosophy and religion that someone else born on the December 25th it's gonna you know die for your sins and then you don't know we were you don't have responsibilities any all beeps don't really matter don't hate it matters his faith it was actually a political tactic of the Greek and then Roman Empire to combine the qualities of these gods very easy to absorb but in simulation listen that turns I don't know if we're gonna get anywhere between you and I having this but it helps me understand where you're coming from an upset to it yeah I get it I do get it it's a really tough pill to swallow it's like wow I was lied to I was like if I accept this that means that this is false if I accept that the others false no I guess what I'm talking about is misunderstandings that I hear coming about what I believe I mean that's a uncle I'll take it back to the very beginning what I said either either a person has to you know if a person has already come in there in their own heart if a person's already come to this idea out of this understanding that you're not gonna find Yeshua in in the Tanakh there's nothing there's nothing anybody who has had a supernatural experience with God who you know God reaches down plucks you out of the mire and you know she reveals himself to you there's nothing that on an intellectual level somebody's gonna do to change your heart on that and there's and on the other side if there's somebody who's and I'm so dead set against following God's laws and and you know they think that they're only saved because because of Jesus and they don't have to worry about following mitzvot and you know there's nothing that you're going to do to change their mind there so either way you look at this you have to come to it in faith I mean you have to decide for yourself does he fit I mean does he fit you just read through the Tanakh and write look at all of the way that Yeshua is intertwined throughout that whole huge passage of scriptures either either you have to decide if that's him or it's not and you have to make the decision in part so it's a faith in right faith decision one way or the other and you know if we but we but what we have determined and we've been learning now for six weeks whatever maybe longer is there validity to a concept called an oral torah and if does it have not just Authority is it have integrity is it passed on from Moses are these concepts in what we call the Oral Torah because keep in mind it oral where they spoke Hebrew right it was passed down you're you're new you're new at this I'm not talking about your personal experience having god I have to question your interpretation of the Oral Torah even I mean I'm not questioning you on a personal level here but well even our sages and our rabbis not everybody's right and they even debate with in them they have different opinions on different levels but I think the discussion is good because with if there's one person that has this question how many more have this question from both sides I'm understanding where you're at that's it's okay these things and hash them out because this is years of indoctrinated and parrot you know you're in a paradigm and and we're all on a paradigm from where we're coming from and the idea is is to get back to an understanding of what our people understood and then to be able to move forward as we unify as the whole house of Israel so if I tell you we move but we will discuss this because we talked about this verse in Mitchell a in Proverbs through kindness and truth and Nic could we iniquity will be forgiven okay that is a concept that Jews Israelites from Mount Sinai and before have always believed they never believed that they had to have faith in a messiah that would die for their sins is that where you're at and you believe something that was never known to Jews from time immemorial because what we call that it's a new religion not an insight into what Judaism is but it's not Judaism Judaism uh say it again never believed a mass as part of a religious creed so where's that met where's our Messiah is someone who will actually take away our sins it's only God what Yeshua did was he brought people into an understanding there's a lot of people Terrence there's a lot of people but I'll tell you the last statement you just made is actually contradictory to many of the Christian teachings and whatever you want to say but basically because of Paul because of many of the teachings over there do not that it's an understanding of Paul's teachings that is the big problem it's not necessarily false teachings it still comes down to the integrity of the text you which texture you're using to try to interpret Paul is there a long-standing tradition of that to back you up you know a question from many of the mindset coming out of the Christian world and moving towards Judaism as they're beginning to understand that no man can die for another man sins and in the past they were taught and thought that the sacrifices of animals were atoning for sin can you expound on if a man cannot atone how much less can Anna town right it's not the animal all right it's not the animal it's night so first of all excellent class don't get me wrong when I say that a that we do believe that a a righteous person can die for someone sins it's I'm gonna try to say it's not a pillar of our faith it just happens to be a fact it's a fact and this is one of the questions that that Heather asked and I'll try to deal with it right now I think I gave it to you on a page to go back into the Brooke hopes it says Broncos 7a you can open up that page you have two issues here two verses you could probably find many more but in exodus 34:7 Hashem tells us the 13 attributes of mercy part of it is preserving loving-kindness for thousands forgiving iniquity and rebellion and sin yet he does not completely clear this up sin he visits the iniquity of parents on children and children's children third and fourth generations which means that what what does that mean that other people do do suffer because of other people's sins correct yeah he will clear the sin due to other people's suffering what Scripture was that it's exodus 34:7 okay he does not completely clear this sin but he will punish parents on their children the children chosen a third or fourth generation people will suffer for others people 6 see clearly in the scripture so that it's not saying it belongs for it but they suffer because of it that's right yes it is a way of it is a way of atoning and we'll see we're gonna see the text in the Tom move shortly Deuteronomy 24:16 says father shall not be put to death before because of sons nor shall sons be put to death versus fathers but each man for his own for his own his own sins right says on his own transgression people die for their own transgressions so you have a clear contradiction well I want to deal with Terence is it a clear contradiction contradiction because the scripture doesn't contradict itself so it's our understanding that needs to right okay so so we're not we're not those kind of Bible critics we're taking a critical view of the Bible so that we can get clarity yeah that's okay the Thomas discusses this seeming contradiction how's that okay so I only have here a part of the Gomorrah I've got in English and I kind of want to skip the part but basically Moses requested three things from a Shem and Shem agreed he asked the screen that's well among Israel he asked the screen and not dwell amongst the non-jews and even he asked the Shem to show him his way and what was he really asking when he said to God show me your way he wanted to know why certain righteous people suffer and why some of them wide is certain why do righteous people either prosper and some suffering and why do some prefer Shyam prosper and in Hebrew we say Sadhna Corolla there's some tsadikim that have bad things happen to them and it doesn't really make sense if there's reward and pleasure there's all deeds matter so then this ruins equation give these people you know righteous in their suffering and you have these evil people that are prospering I mean questions yeah okay so of course Moses asked that question when he asked him in Hebrew he said ODA me not inform me or let me know now at DARPA Kaka your way that was the words he used so so God answered him okay it says Hashem answered him it said a righteous person who's the son of a righteous person he's the kind of guy that prospers at sadiq whose father was evil he suffers an evil person whose father was righteous Sonic he prospers and a evil person son of an evil person he suffered so what does this imply that people suffer as a result of their parents sins correct mm-hmm that's is that there why should I suffer for someone else's sins that's once again cause and effect why well you just got done saying in verse 24 16 that someone should not suffer on account of someone else's sins should not be forced to suffer or what another man sentence but this is something inherent in nature that comes through the law why and why why should that be one second we just said some people some righteous suffer and some people I did exactly what you did you and I are righteous but because one of our fathers was not one of the new laws are gonna suffer yeah but we just got done saying that's not how it works each person dies for his own sins each person suffers for his own sins but this is the answer Shem gives him okay so the truth is it requires a very interesting discussion have to find the page there it is okay I mean I'm gonna try to read it in human and translate as we go along the Gomorrah s on the different categories that we just mentioned above a son of a righteous person so it's good for him whereas there's a right person who could suffer so the the the clarification of the answer that God gave to Moses in a different way now if we just got done with the answer we're now going to discuss a little bit further so maher Imam are one of the Masters said and of course a righteous man as Adi is not perfect and so in every body still has sense of its own as well as the sense of the father this is the way the conversation goes in the Guara so this comes in the gomorrah is a conversation that took place over hundreds of years amongst sages to clarify the conversation so basically he just says what i just said that a Tzadik that prosperous that's because his father was righteous and the righteous person that suffers is because he's righteous but his father wasn't so the Gomorrah asked is that really true how can that be true if we look at exodus 34:7 right exodus 34:7 which we have that's the first it says that God visits God visits the sins of the fathers on the children so we learn from here that God actually pushes the children for the sins of the fathers whereas we have another verse in Deuteronomy 24 verse 16 where children will not suffer on account of their parents transgressions so we're just clarifying the question that's right the children will not die on account to their father's sins so the the statement of the Gomorrah is we have a clear contradiction so this is how the contradiction is now resolved the Gomorrah begins to say it's not it's not a problem it could be resolved how's that there is no there is no contradiction but these verses are dealing with two very specific or different types of circumstances what are the circumstances when we when the children are holding on to the actions of their fathers in their hands meaning their continuing the same bad or negative behavior if you're at Sade whose father was a Russia right a righteous person whose father was evil but you change you didn't continue in those ways it shouldn't be it should not be where you are punished and the other cases my daughter is trying to call me the way back and the other verse where children will will not die on a corner on account of their father sins is when they're no longer holding on to the actions of their forefathers now my finish is going to be a much lengthier discussion so how do we sum this up since we learned that the children of Assad that are not no longer holding on to the actions of their fathers they're not going to be punished for the sins of their fathers that's the case so what do we look to be saying that what God was actually saying to Moses was that the righteous person who suffers is because he's a righteous person whose father was not with not not so righteous and don't and since we're saying that a a son ain't have been Siddiq not a shock at all go south we just really entry that's official Omar ain't huh Ben it's a deep if the child is righteous he's not going to be punished for the sins of his father's so the good more axis begins to answer in a different way this is actually over saying but what did God say he said there's really four categories okay there's a righteous person who as first that's because he's a completely righteous person a righteous person who suffers because he's not completely righteous the evil person who's prosperous is because he's not completely evil and the evil person the prize that suffers is because he is completely he's completely evil now on a mystical level I don't know if you guys believe in reincarnation a you know raise your hands for those who believe in reincarnation no no khoka ballistically we understand the different aspects of the soul the different levels of the soul the different purposes of the soul coming and refining those things of the past but it's the way that it's been promoted in Western society so I kind of make a differentiation okay no we don't so okay so it's going to be a little bit on the Kabbalistic side what the apportion what the commentators explained the vecchio time in particular that when we talk about the son of a righteous person or the son of an evil person we're actually talking about his past life time because the son of is in this generation the father is the previous generation so it's like an accumulation of lifetime's so if I am righteous but I'm suffering it's to atone from my own iniquities in a past life not what it says when God says to him the father and we just got done all this explanation that's one way you can believe that exactly the way they can work included or the way the commentators on the Gomorrah explained what God is really telling them that it had to do with the previous lifetime so the righteous person who prospers because he's righteous in this world use righteousness one okay now are you saying that that soul that reincarnate is skipping a generation so it's not the immediate father if the the previous fathers no no it's not the biological father at all yeah yes it's who he what he was in a previous lifetime like we say father's son it's that one so the father was his soul in the previous lifetime we're just using the word father to read to as a representative of who he was last time and the son on there that's the way it's explained in Kabbalah know there are new souls and if somebody is so your thought is it to give someone a chance to repent God loves us so much you bet this is what it's all about it's about God's love and his willingness to give us chance after chance and just to clarify about 90 what would you say 98% of all Jews believe in this concept well I think you from an orthodox jews jews you study torah vast majority of different different levels of understanding reincarnation but it's definitely i have on my website a three-part series on reincarnation i suggest you listen so it would be pretty fascinating it so you go to my website you go to the archives and you have to go down down down down to Rabbi Pincus Winston okay so we're talking about when the Vilna Gaon tells us over and over what's the purpose of life the purpose of life is to correct a character to work on your essence that's what the mitzvahs are therefore that's what serving gods all about it's working on your character it's called in Hebrew tikkun hum adults working on your on your trade just working on your attributes and this is what life is all about this is he says this is the purpose of life this is why we're here so what do I gain I don't wanna go back I turns I just want to say I had an experience like you okay oh brother I know but we all believe that God loves us and that that love is really carrying us you know what I'm saying it's carrying our faith is carrying lives but sometimes we were on a journey and we you know there's a what's the word when you you're using you know a GPS to get somewhere and you'd missed the turn and it's recalc calibrates there's a recalibration and that's okay recalibration means there's a fixing in the faith the understanding the way I understand the Tanakh and the way I understand God but I do know one thing and that's what He loves us He loves us individually his relationship with us amen and that's what it's all about and we agree but I'll tell you what most in Jewish thought that in non Jew permit it's permissible for a non Jew to use an intermediary to get to a relationship with God but it's forbidden for a Jew a Jew must go directly to what we call the father but a non Jew can use an intermediary in fact when Yahshua claims whether the claim is that he said it's only through me and get to the Father I say right on man it's only through a Jew it's only through we saw it here that only if you believe in the sciatic revelation can you go to heaven amen it's only through the accepting the Jewish mission the Jews are the serpent in Isaiah 53 the Jews are the suffering servant and it's through understanding the suffering of the Jew and the whole mission interpretation of that scripture as I understand as did the Sanhedrin and in the Babylonian Talmud am I wrong about that I'm not sure what you mean Hilo's had a different idea but what about who the suffering servant well they did recognize that the coming Messiah who would suffer in and they interpreted Isaiah 53 is pointing to the Messiah that's fine I mean I'm not going to argue that there's different opinions that the Jewish people like I said are a molested Kohanim we are messianic you know when we some run a dude for people say oh you know we're messy annek what the Jews or not you know that's like a that's fake news is fake this could be you know if we're looking at the you know non Torah references for Egypt to decide who these you know if Israel is the suffering servant or if somebody else is the suffering servant there's definitely there's most definitely the suffering servant the question is where a burrs are as we've been learning we see that there's levels and levels we go deeper whether it's part a shocked simple meeting right to remiz to the hymns to the dresses right to the sewed okay but if God wanted us to know that the JC figure was the man he would let us know yeah it says over and over again it is over over again yes you will die you will be killed death penalty if you violate Shabbat so you let us know how we have to keep fly in other words just part of our religion it's part of our Torah write it this idea that we must believe in has whatever the Christians believes it would have been part of our dogma would have been part of our mantra would have been part of our religion and you know what when this guy arrived on the scene leave it all believes and that didn't happen so well I know just what however this one piece just just to just to draw focus to this now Isaac brought up the fact that there have been several some Messiah like figures that the people have you know bought bought into or whatever you want to say you know so to say that the Jewish people would have known it was him I don't know I don't know if I can buy that one cuz there have been special even the sages thought that who was the guy that you use an example of well marcado was that they thought he was the Messiah so you know correct but they would they would remember what we just described in the Rambam fighting the wars he was doing that he created a revolution so we're talking about either the first stage or already the second stage what do we say the first stage was that was before the building of the temple that was before the bringing in the exiles so at some point you can believe that he's the Messiah but you're not 100% until he does those other two things of rebuilding the baton my gosh and there on occasion so so first one was okay everyone we are when those things happen yeah okay now going back to the souls another Kabbalistic concept is that all souls originate from one original soul and of course we know that all things originated in Hashem anyways but I didn't know if you wanted to continue that train of thought that you were thrown out so we talked about the one soul in Adam had a merese on the first man and then there was a division of 600,000 souls so that is the 600,000 souls that Israel makes up Israel is Adam and Yom and high yom-yom means day and io means good day we discussed the idea of the Sun the Sun hours the 12 hours of sunlight right as opposed to a 24-hour period same thing with the word atom and hadam it's a little bit more counterintuitive Adam is actually the Jewish people haha da means mankind so we talked about here a lot of you know be the difference between the 613 and the seven so my make up from my soul I need to be connected to all 613 but a non Jew does not be peep at the seven and keep believing in an intermediary in order to get to God whether it's the Jewish people whether it's a Jew it's very interesting oh I always end my arguments with Christian missionaries at least you believe it and you have to go through a Jew to get to heaven so that's okay with me no on a serious note that are we have it almost a different soul makeup now I want to clarify that by saying really we're all created the same we all have the same soul makeup but we have less obstacles and having a Brit Milah the way it's done is like symbolic of removing the barriers and we have to do that with our heart and in other words we both have the same potential it's like you know in George Orwell's book or whether you know these communists concepts those you know yeah we're all created equal but some are more equal than others that's not what I'm trying to say okay that we're all created equal but if you want to have less barriers you go all the way because I think that's what Heather was really asking me like yeah I don't feel that this is I'm losing her words I don't feel that just being a bad knock is really coming as close to God as I think I can and perhaps she's right but I want to say no the way the Rambam is gonna discuss which we're going to see I want to get to it hopefully that a non Jew that keeps the seven Noahide laws they go to heaven they mama sure like on the level of a high priest okay you don't have to convert the Judaism but there are those that are driven and that's okay they're accepted they could be black and pink and white I don't care it doesn't matter what you can be on my lake and convert okay mmm that's serious it's good of Amalek Erin I noticed that the Sabbath is not one of the seven Noahide laws but in Isaiah 56 it talks about a foreigner joining himself to the Lord taking hold of his covenant does that covenant in isaiah 50:6 mean the whole tour if is that talking about a full convert very good question together isaiah 50:6 what liberation of that text isaiah 50:6 um you know the first few verses they're getting the idea because this is what um why I started keeping the Sabbath but I don't know now okay thus says the Shem observed justice and perform righteousness the Ebro ii shimu mich but the assuit sadaqa for my salvation is soon to come and my righteousness to be revealed praiseworthy as the man who does this and the person who grassed it tightly regards the sabbath against that's creating it and guards his hand against doing any evil i'll tell you about the bat without looking at the commentators this is for sure talking to the Jews okay and you saw a nice talk did you let not the foreigner who has joined himself push them to speak saying Hashem will utterly separate me from his people and let and let not the barren one say behold I am a servile tree so this is a little bit hard to read you know I have to go to the commentators to understand exactly what's being said here cuz I said of Shem to the barren ones who observe my Sabbath's and choose what I desire to grasp my covenant tightly in my house and within my wall so you see could see already the first and definite thumbs to the Jews and now he's referring to the foreigner but he's still talking to the Jew and it's the same to the bearer ones who observe my status and choose where desire yes if until but non-jews where do you see convert let you see the yeah foreigners who join themselves to Hashem to serve him to love the name of out am I to be his governors and impeach Shabbat definitely a foreigner in Hebrew neck are you know a non Jew so it should be we could do a what it's alluding to is that Shabbat is central to holding fast to the Covenant because Hashem actually says in Exodus 31 verse 13 it is the sign between me and my people so it's the sign of the covenant that he's made with his boot and Shabbat is central this sounds from the rest reading the rest of the verse someone who fully converts as it says in the foreigners who joined themselves to a Shem to serve him as to love the name of Hashem to become servants unto him all who guard the Sabbath against desecration and grasp like covenant tightly I will bring them to my holy mountain and I would gladden him lend them my house of prayer elevation offering of the oak tree offerings feast offerings will find favor on my altar and my house will be called a house of prayer for all the peoples the word of my lord shall gather the dispersed of Israel I shall gather to him even more than Oh then those already gathered to him let's see there's a commentary here it says in addition to the Exile Jews many Gentiles converts rally to the Messiah so it sounds like we're talking about the full-fledged covered not the different levels we spoke about earlier God okay so am i doing any good keeping the Sabbath here you're returning home so you are barriers that's where you want to go you're on a journey and this is where you're at today and your journey yeah there are two commandments even though I said that non-jews may keep any of the commandments there are actually two commandments that are shunned away from one we already saw and that was learning Torah there was an exception the learning the Torah if you want to learn more about the seven Noahide laws and you want it maybe even consider conversion or become the resident alien which is somewhere in between you know the lower level of conversion and a full conversion it's just a character shop living in the Land of Israel they can go full proclamation in front of the base then of course you're gonna learn Torah so that's going to be the one exception the other exception is Shabbat it says it's it's a sign between me and the children of Israel so it's a special covenant of keeping Shabbat a hundred percent properly so we deal with many people in the conversion process and what they do is they try to keep Javitch properly and trust me nobody keeps out property unless you really learn it so ya know okay I'm gonna go with it well you learned it we have a matrix pain from the sages that if all of us Jews would keep Shabbat perfectly mashiac would come would actually hasten his company so that shows through the ages none of us have kept has a body as a corporate Israel right yep so anyway so one of the ideas is that some people in the process of conversion in private they do a very small act even rabbinic just to violate the Shabbat but otherwise they keep it fully accepts that one little item and what is the purpose of that because it did the Shabbat is only to be kept a hundred percent by the Jew Oh Julie converted then they don't in other words it's a proper for them to become accustomed to doing it right it's a custom it's good for them to learn all the details how to do it right so because one day they're gonna be Jewish and that's not the time to start learning you I start learning and practicing now so they they do something very small and minor just to violate it on the most minimal level in private okay what else so we were going I wanted to go through some of these other pieces I'm gonna go back open my computer again it ate up close we were to before now you know like now you know my password one two three four Oh tell anybody okay so I think we were we were seven now we're at eight page eight would be 236 so we didn't finish that can there be a greater stumbling block than Christianity all the prophets spoke of the Messiah as the Redeemer of Israel and its Savior who would gather remember it doesn't say anything about thanked for anybody's sins are taking anybody sins away hey it doesn't do that and it doesn't talk about in dying I will gather they're dispersed strengthen their observance of mitzvahs by contrast okay now Terrance this is this act this is Rambam right yeah but it's a fact I mean I mean you can ask any Jew today or anybody who's learned anything about history yeah which is just maybe you guys still see Aaron huh he froze but maybe you'll come back I don't know just want to make sure it wasn't just on my side okay this is a wonderful discussion oh this is gonna be good for everybody cuz I'm gonna post this on our part of the site for ask the rabbis so that people can get a little taste of you know you can ask any question there's nothing taboo this is a beautiful thing and you see I mean to me I see it you've got to I mean like right here we are reading this is ROM BOMs interpretation of what the Messiah must be no it's the whole Bible's interpretation there's nowhere in there where he dies what he did is Rambam codified all of the oral torah and all of the halaqa or to make it easier for jews on a particular subject and so what he's doing is not just taking his opinion he wouldn't just take his own opinion he's basically taking the whole of Jewish mindset throughout history tiny and putting it into his he was the first one to do this he was like amazing genius and the way he grows to bring it all together all of a sudden the whole Jewish people recognized that he has summed this up in such a way that we can use this as an authoritative Hebrew source from here forward and they really did adopt his there was only a couple who you know still held to other people's commentaries instead of his but he basically brought together all the past commentaries so it's not just his opinion per se it's a whole compilation of all of the Jews yes and talking about yeah so it's a great resource and we should have that in everyone's library even though it's you know it's a lot of reading if you're really but it really helps you understand and these definitions you know how we talked about people argue because of semantics but if we could get rid of English language and if we can get rid of semantics in our okay we would not have the misunderstandings that we have if it wasn't for the wrong definitions and this is what's so beautiful about understanding the true definition of machine off now we can say okay if only this defines machine off we can't call anyone machine up until all this is fulfilled and that's why all the world will recognize Messiah when he comes which is very exciting you got a new power source Aaron thanks for clarifying water no no I didn't my I couldn't get in on my iPad I don't know like so I I guess Wow at sun percent yeah I'm there I don't know but I had I can't look it up on the computer but I have the original in front of me so what page were we at 268 or something yeah to 36 36 that was the second part that was the first o to 36 we're still paragraph today so we although yet nevertheless nevertheless know by contrast Christianity cause the Jews are slain by the sword their remnants were scattered and humbled the Torah to be altered and majority the world to her and serve a god other than the Lord nevertheless since the creator of the world is not within the power of man to comprehend for his ways are not our ways nor are his thoughts our thoughts ultimately all the needs of the JJC man and it's my light guy who arose after him will only serve to prepare the way for the messiah coming and the improvement of the entire world in other words we believe it's it's it doesn't mean that this was the best-case scenario but it is definitely the rough zone of a Shem it's definitely God's will that Jesus Ishmael I mean Mohammed I don't know who else maybe Buddha whoever whatever but let's take these two because these are the two monotheistic religions that spread the world it says will only serve to prepare the way for the Messiah's coming and the improvement of the entire world motivating the nations to serve God together as in Spanier says we've read that verse already right so you understand when we look at the Christian or the Islamic faiths ultimately we we know and understand even though there's so much death so much negativity ultimately it's all part of the plan so that when Messiah comes he will be readily accepted it's preparing the way and improving the world because you guys believe well you know not you guys but Christians believe murder is wrong that adultery is wrong that stealing is wrong you know I'm saying it today we don't we also don't believe that Yeshua taught any of that stuff I mean this is just for clarification we may have already clarified this but by contrast Christianity caused Jews to be slain by the sword their remnants to be scattered and humbled and the Torah to be altered and the majority of the world to air and serve a god other than the world that's a pretty broad way of saying that you know we have to clarify that that's not what Yeshua did that's what people own system of worship and religion Christianity did yeah it's totally false system and that's why they're separating it from Judaism totally all right let me get back into the text I think I have I think that was it for there right oh no is it oh yeah let's read the next page a little bit more in that last paragraph okay where I read it it's the same it's the same chiffonnier we read before how will this come about the entire world has already become filled with the mention of Messiah now everyone knows there's such a person to expect and the word Torah and the concept of mitzvahs these matters have been spread to the furthest islands too many stubborn hardened nation and to discuss these matters and the mysteries of the Torah they say these myths are true but we're already superseded in the presentation not applicable at all for them that's what they say others say implying the misreading concepts that cannot be understood simply the Messiah had already come and revealed those hidden truths well we say when the true Messiah will arise and prove successful his position becoming exalted and uplifted they will all return and realize their ancestors endowed them with the false heritage and their prophets and ancestors caused them to her we have I quoted this because this was huh and we haven't seen that return I wasn't the fruit no no no it's going to happen it's going to happen right does when the millet millet millet Messiah comes when he will arised and proved to be a success this is what you will see okay that's what we're looking forward to look at Jeremiah 16 19 to the bottom of page 2/3 nine nations will come to you from the ends of the earth and state surely our forefathers have inherited lies and vain things in which there is no benefit okay read it I'm not there yet what do we do when we realize we've inherited lies what are you there yeah we just might get cut off again okay after we realized what you've inherited lies we say do men make their own gods that are yes but they are not gods yeah you might follow or idolize or bow down but I want to go to the last page which says the Rambam and he'll cut the oval and shmitah I'm afraid my phone is gonna cut off oh yeah it's gonna cut up whatever okay anyway so you got to realize that we talked about leaving the beginning lady doesn't have any work they weren't involved in the sins and they were blessed and all that nice stuff but look at why'd the Levites not recite receive a portion of inheritance in Israel this is right from the Rambam by the way and in the schools are willing to read because they were set aside to serve God and minister into him and struck people at large and his just passing righteous judgments as it says they will teach your judgments to Jacob Riis her to Israel therefore they were set apart from the rest of the world they don't wage a war like the remainder of Jewish people dinner and they receive an inheritance nor do they acquire for themselves their physical power instead they're God's Legion and we give them their my sir we give them there are times okay now this is the most interesting thing because this applies to a non Jew ready for this this is the highest level of a non Jew not only the tribe of Lavy but any of the inhabitants of the world that means you whose spirit generally motivates him any other stands with his wisdom and said as himself aside to stand before God and serve and minister him and know God I know you guys want to know God proceeding justly as God made him removing from his neck the yoke of the many refugees people seek he sanctified as what holy of holies this is any any person not just a Jew not just a Jew and non-jew anyone in the in habits of the world can serve God correctly sanctified opposing God with his portion and heritage forever five what is four sufficient sufficient for him in this world like he provides for the priests and the Levites and David declared God is the lot of my portion you will might help you support it how do you like them apples a way to end this day guys this is what the Mishkan was all pointing to our job is to return to the Holy of Holies the Kadesh code machine and that's what the Jewish people was set aside to be to the nation's a nation of holiness a holy nation and everyone who sees the blessings that are inherent in living out torah would desire to be blessed like the jews are being blessed and they would say teach me a ship's ways but we haven't been of a perfect light to the nation's yet but yes the ultimate job was from a kiosk he is going to return the nation's to foreign systems ways it's the ultimate job it's the ultimate job of the Jewish people and the ship is just our leader he's the one who know through him or with him we're able to accomplish it's a it's a tool it's not the end-all you know I'm saying it's not the end or it's our deeds so I don't know where you're at you talking with this whole you know how you relate with Terrence but I totally get it right I understand the person relationship one has with what he believes to be the creator of the universe or his son I get it because that's what wheels we want but we have to pray for clarity it's a work hard and try to understand the text and ask intellectually honest questions and be open to the answers and understand that we have been we have been lied to by the church by the Christian dude dogma there's too much craziness there's like 80,000 different sects out there okay you got the black Israelites you got who knows who else out there telling us they're the real Jews they got the real deal the real thing but I can tell you one thing when you walk through the land and you know that the the the the ground the earth the the soil has begun to come alive and and the you can watch the Jewish mission as it developed you know in our last generation a couple generations you see that there's something going on there that kind of gets you a little bit like hmm he said he was returning but I only see the Jews returning so and what it says in the Diaspora and assimilated amongst the heathen religions of the world and my calling is to help them realize their identity and come out from that fault system and return to the people and this is just a honor to be a part of the greater plan because this is not something that is unique to an individual's mission this is a shims mission from the beginning he says I will scatter you amongst the nations and in the last days I will gather you back and so it's a joy to be a part of Jim's work in helping people realize their descendants from the whole house of Israel and there they have inherited lies their forefathers have inherited lies it's time to come back home it's time to embrace the truth it's time to receive the blessing and return to the land but the beautiful thing about teaching Torah even in the Diaspora is it prepares people for living in the land how can we come back to the land first and put the cart before the horse if we don't know Torah so this is a very patient toil that we are a part of I wanted to hear from Heather if she sold what she thinks that last piece um I have you myself from you did I'm still here what last piece so one you read yeah but I I sent to choose the last of the documents the Rambam the UL uh yeah I was listening to you but I don't have I wasn't on the right page I just have okay I think this you know what I can should be a list it actually says Rambam Yogo well I don't have understand our Skype chat here there's a place to okay do you see where it is so it's a Word document not a JPEG I just sent it to you on our chat there we go the climax of this statement of Rambam is that they can these people can become as sanctified as the Holy of Holies this is an amazing statement yeah I you see number thirteen it's halfway down the page if first number 12 describes LaVey okay okay yeah and then thirteen says not only the tribal AV but any one of the inhabitants of the world that includes yeah non-jews yes the sphere generously motivates him and he understands with his wisdom to set himself aside to stand before God to serve Him and minister to him and to know God I'm sitting justly as God made and removing from his neck the yoke of the many reckonings which in other words he becomes like a lazy like a prisoner to priests not everybody can trace their lineage back to one of the twelve tribes so this is hope for the Nations I just got to clarify this is this when a person does I cherish my powers going off a second iron we love you thank you another great tsveti all right guys well in closing let me just say something to our audience who's going to be viewing you 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