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Nissuch Hamayim on Sukkos and Nissuch Hayayin everyday - How do they differ?
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Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner at Yeshivas Bein Hazmanim at Scheiner's Shul
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I want to begin this
year the first day
of to
thank the powers the
behind
Hamberg as well as well
ased that are two the
two not only
for but for all the learning programs
last
night learning over
here Kipper I come even if I don't have
how could you not come be part of such a
beautiful
mat the morning the
night give them
continuous in in today's Shear I would
like to focus on a topic that's less
discussed in a typical Shear before a
young
before usually you go to
a be more over here the typical is
either what are the Mitzvah coming up
what are the Mitzvah coming up the mitz
say the
mitz so you could speak about each one
of the the you could speak about
the and
then
the the first night there's a lot to
speak about
out there's another Mitzvah a
Mitzvah that's going to be coming up
suus which unfortunately we do not have
it because we don't have the
BD a Mitzvah that's
connected we're a little bit connected
to the
because we
have
and is
a that was in
the and
the was for
the is differently but that's not the
discussion for we're a little bit
connected so when you go to the
if we're not to
be and we're going to try to speak about
it to go in a little bit into this
Mitzvah what's
this where where exactly is this Mitzvah
we we're in the T so it's not one of the
T
mitzvas it's not one of
thez as a matter of a fact the
from the that lists thez doesn't bring
it it's not it's not one of thez but
the I'm gonna speak over here about
the because where else should I speak
about it so it's
a that's not in
the it's in the over here
was another besides was was and he's
going on what is talking
about says that
another so if it's not if it's not a
mitvah from
thez where then yes is the Mitzvah where
do we find the mitzvah
so the EM is that it's
a
says just to be
clear
these came with allb that's
in wine UMAS and wine came with heavy
carbon
came with a carbonis that's a that's a
par and that was every day of the year
what we're talking about is unique
separately that there was the the water
the pouring water that was and
that's the says how do you know
so if you take a look in the I have a
copy of it also that's the
throughout the regular of every single
day a couple of pages in The we you have
over
there the regular carbon T that we
brought every T came with a with a
and
so because that was brought every single
day of the year if you continue on there
are three changes throughout throughout
old in the second
day at the end of the the
says
V instead of Ven it says ven these are
extra end
it's also we'll soon see but it's not V
then if you continue on
V it's on the next page but thear brings
it
extra the six day the six day
of these are extra doesn't just
say with a then
on the seventh
day usually it
says it
says so the says what are the three
extra letters
me
is say
and it's with these
letters asks the following
question
asks the
says what's RAB every morning when we
brought the
carb there was there was only one only
one that we
brought what is what is why does the
say there's
a like what the says you have the copy I
don't understand it's not V it's V every
carbon only came with one
so bson the simple answer which he he
answers that but he answers it with a
which we'll get to in a second but the
simple answer is we just saw the
says these
two of every single day of the year
and so it's very good it's very good you
could stop right here I was learning
last night with my
son we going over a little
bit and he said it's very it's very good
it's the T
says
and that's him you could stop right
here however seeming L what was bothered
is that laa it's not to if it would be
this well soon see how he makes it two
different but if it would be the same
thing it still should have
said it's it happens to be in the recipe
of the these water these wine if you
would need four different things in the
you would need oil and you can't bring
honey if you need all these type of
things so is it different it's one thing
it's one with water and
wine it's it's
different that's brought every single
day to
the that was brought
on and as we'll see these three
but it's it's what's the
difference foll mean while it's
clear that's brought every single
day is a din in the carbon what carbon
the carbon tomit the carbon Tom was
supposed to come with wine with it's a
of the
carbon has nothing to do with the
nothing to do with the it had to do with
the was the days
of
was not to do with the carbon you see
you see you see we're learning it you
see we learning it out from the learning
it out from the
same reg so maybe you could
say we're making making it of the but
how do you see
that very good beautiful what's your
name R beautiful what you're
asking
and will soon see that it's not so
simple what
my we'll soon see his questionable let's
see as we move along if the question is
still a question but to to clear between
the two when
says that's connected to the carbon Tom
and then there's another
that is not connected to the carbon Tom
like the
says it's a
long he
says
this everybody's going to agree the time
to bring the we actually brought it
together was with the carbon tomit don't
mistake that even though it's nothing to
do with the tomit but like he says his
ele the was to bring it with the
carbon but it's not
so what we have over here so far with a
chlorite is not
like is a just like you brought a carbon
you brought a carbon T then you brought
a carbon mus and and
carbonis yesterday and Kipper you
brought carbon so there was another
called it a carbon there
was that was its own entity
and with this says I understand why it
says because these two types of if it
would be both the same carbon so do you
have to list out that the one is wine
one is water it's all part of the carbon
so it's two separate entities
is so even if we stop the she right here
and Su you want to talk about it's
already a clor thing to speak about that
is not just a part of the
carb is its own
entity to bring every day
of
what didn't bring it oh we'll get to
that very good we'll get to that shortly
if you don't have a carbon Tom that's a
Chlor that's NA number four that we'll
get soon brings but if brought it we'll
start with that very clar what happens
if you don't have a carbon tomit R if
you don't have a carbon tomit could you
bring you cannot bring the reason why
you can't
bring is only with the carbon tomed if
you don't have the carbon tomed you
can't bring the you can't
bring you don't have a Tom but water you
got
water water you'll be able to bring one
clearly if it's a not part of the carbon
if you don't have a carbon you could
still do
the another
three says they all
bring it's all the same but it's plays
out in three places could you bring the
May or the Y before or the night before
let's say the night before could you do
or the night
before or could you do it in the morning
before you bring the carbon
tomit what happens if you brought the
carbon tomit and you didn't have a
chance yet to bring
the and it was so busy it was a busy day
and said a day pass it's the next
day if it's a of the carbon T the wine
is a of the carbon
T you cannot bring it before not the
night before and even the morning before
you can't bring it before the carbon Tom
it's a of the carbon you can't bring it
before
afterwards the wine you didn't bring
wine for the carbon T of Sunday morning
today Sunday the week
of and you didn't bring
you didn't bring you didn't pour wine
you could still bring
it cuz it's still connected to the
carbon
Tom you could bring the night
before because there nothing to do with
the tomit like says the Min to bring it
with the tomit even like said even if
you don't have a tomit you could bring
it the night before and you could also
bring it in the morning before the
carvon Ted there's nothing to do with
it's afterward you can bring it the
whole
day but only off until the end of the
day once you miss it
over so here are three
between of the carbon T that's brought
every single day of the
year is only brought only brought on
suus it's not connected to the it's its
own it's its own Mitzvah you gr brought
at the time of the
T says that is its own not
connected to the
carbon like
is you have the copy over there
it's like what we saw it's not
connected
the has to do with the day and it
doesn't have to do with the
carbon yes that's connected
is not connected to the
carbon the same is also the r
the spells it out crystal clear that
it's not connected to the carbon the ra
doesn't say it as clear but the ra what
the r says is the ra
says if you bring the before
the not only if you bring it in the
morning before but even if you bring it
the night
before so that's that it's not connected
to the carbon Tom if it's connected to
the carbon Tom it's a the you have to
bring the with the you
bring just like you can't bring before
the this also not
so and the is like
that what is going on a r and the riv
argues the riv holds that
is like it's connected to the
carbon so what we had before that is
owned then now we
have the way
how you're asking
good I'm not 100% sure I learned it a
few times the is arguing on that Riv it
and and is it meish that the reason why
Laya is no good is because it's before
or
maybe which car at least at least a
understands like that at least
a he's going on the he's going
on a special carbon or it's part of the
no no it
doesn't doesn't have its own carbon it's
brought at the time of the carbon T in
the morning that had the sh is just the
the
of
besides also
have but you're right it's not the's
never there's no other carbonis the
water the only addition of is only the
water no carbonis now the sh is do we
plug in this into the carbon T in the
morning to the wine that's connected is
it another ingredient into the carbon
tet or it's its own it's it's owned in
and if it's owned in you can bring it
already By Night the riv it says that if
you bring it by
night so and the argues so the B see and
understands you know why by night it's
not good the reason why by night it's
not good is because you have to bring it
with the
T because
first the last problem so has to be
sandwi between that has anything to do
with so I'm talking not sure that's what
asked also needs more clarity at least
to me in the when he brings the rivid
when it says Lila is no
good maybe you can't bring it by L and
if you can't bring up that has nothing
to
do before right right the way argues on
the it he doesn't he doesn't theid says
he can't bring by night so if it's just
algam in so what is the saying it's a
din by itself okay but still you can't
bring it by night it seems the reason
why you can't bring it by night is
because it's connected to
the I argue it's not connected to the
and therefore you can bring up by night
but that's understands
that connected or the is own is his own
in say we're not done
yet
we is own entity then we saw
the
says then the in
his goes on to say that
it's what's the is the is the you have
this copy over here also on the
bottom brings this same suff with the na
he brings the Naina that we mentioned
before what happens if you don't have a
carbon toid but
Al in this sh says it's a what's
the he says like
this if you
learn that is known from
theen then it is connected
is like it's connected to
the the exact opposite of
the says that if it would be the same
type
if would be the same you wouldn't be
able to save
in if you learn you look at the the Bim
if you learn
from
V these two so then he says that it's
the same it's the
same or if you learn it with the we
saw not connected to just the extra if
you learn it from there then you could
say it's a separate in so again there's
one more piece to add on over here but
just to make it CL there should be a
very clear
takeaway could either be
like it's one it's one mitvah part of
the of course he
Mitzvah but it's another ingredient
included into the carbon tomit or or you
could say that actually it's a separate
it's separate it happens to be we bring
it at the time of carbon tomit but has
nothing to do with the carbon
tomit I made a
copy you could look at in in the brisan
stencil
Claire's even if you say that is in
carbon you could still cl to I'm going
to leave it for
now but I want to add one more nud over
here and that's also in the
cerer comes let's call it with a
Twist that both are true both are
true
say and it's part of the carbon and to
say that has its
own and it depends it
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depends if Mo if if you bring the Y
together with the carbon
Tom then it's a of the carbon
tomed if you bring it separately then
it's not
a both are true but it depends if you
bring it to if you bring it together
with the carbon thenes of the carbon if
you don't bring it with the carbon thid
then it's
not the nain that we said
before are still going to apply that has
its own cuz if you bring it the night
before you could bring it the night
before and it's t not going to be part
of the to so you could bring it the
night before you could bring it the
morning
before but what's going to come out half
is is that when you bring the T in the
morning and you didn't do
the you're not going to be able to bring
it the next day cuz remember we said
before another Nao besides before could
you bring it 3 days later so he said if
it's it's owned
in I said it wrong you are going to be
able to you are going to be able to
bring it you are going to be able to
bring it
later you're not no back to what I said
you're not going to be able to bring it
afterwards because it's not connected to
the tomed it's not connected you can't
bring it two days later you're not going
to be able to bring it so with
a with a clite that both are
true it's connected when you bring it
with a carbon and if you don't bring it
with the carbon it's not
connected so just is it you had a shil
before is it still you still have that
Shila or what was your Shila before
again one
thing the DHA of May or the other DHA
which which D the the May one so so the
EMS is is now that you're saying really
the says that if you learn from the of
it's actually not one thing if you learn
it from the
other so it's that it's one thing not
like
the says it's still two things but the
says that if it's it's the same
thing is the same thing if you learn
from so the Torah says
the says it's a
but it's it's but it's how is from the
extra letters but the extra Letters by
the way are not even from the word right
the
extra it's not connected to so just to
conclude and to sum up
the
that's it's not one of
thez is brought every
day
brought it's
brought the preferable time is to be
it's brought with the carbon
and is it the same thing as or is it a
separate
thean when he speaks about this he has a
long Chua you'll see it's in the copies
the starts off and he says just like we
say it's interesting the a sh if you say
it elsewhere besides carbonis but this
ISB so the says he wants to go in
get involved in
the to be
have so if we're not and we're going to
be still in so then we we went through a
could speak about we could
have we
should that will be able to actually
be have
the of together with all the
other like the