NETANEL ALCIDE: Christian Seventh-Day Adventist Discovers Judaism RTH PODCAST #17

hi everyone and welcome to this interview I'm your host Sunny Gigi and it's my pleasure to introduce our special guest today we have nanel he was born and raised in Haiti as a Christian moving to the US attending college and feeling like he's on top of the world he one day gets hit with an unbearable migraine which leads him to have multiple surgeries but also leads him to discovering the truth of Hashem and the holy Torah we're very excited to have him here with us today to share his journey and experience so without further Ado let's get into it [Music] all right so brashem today we have our guest natanel uh natanel can you tell us a little bit about yourself you know what was it like for you growing up uh your family your history uh life in general uh you know what's your background your story thank you very much for inviting me uh to your to your platform to discuss this um it's an honor thank you thank you for coming on for pleasure mine now growing up um quickly it's a long story but um I that's what we're there for yes uh I was brought up in un family I was I was first of all I was raised uh in on an island in Haiti um and uh my family although there were Christians I was brought of Christians as Christians but there were a specific group of within Christian uh Christianity called seven Advent uh they see themselves very prestigious group if you will within Christianity um although they were I thought we were now I know that they were you know at the worshippers but uh there was some some principles some values that at least my family I when I grew up were certain things you know we as like certain principles we live by and these are the things that even now even are still carry on because uh we grew up in the in the church um my father my father all Coos many others were very involved in the church and to the point that they wanted me to to get involved also since very early on and um so of course L learn every day or the the difference between 7even Adventist and other religions or other uh Christian religions or group is that they also claim to keep the Shabbat they they CLA they they observe a shabat so since I was born I never uh went to church or on Satur on Satur on Sundays and things like that because they they keep this CL you know that they keep the Shabbat so forth and so on so so Shabbat was always always part of my my routine or my life if you will and also um we didn't not a lot of the same diet if you will that the Jews keep to some extent I I will go as that we did not we didn't pork so we're trying to go as much as by the what by the Torah that's what that that that's that that group that's what it was about and uh it's pretty much they wanted to exclude themselves from Christianity but by the same token they were still Christians still believe in Jesus and things like that so far and so on so these that's pretty much uh um my religious background of course I was involved in the church my parents wanted me to to be like either not necessarily pastors but really um to get involved in the church you know reaching different you know status possible and like high rank in the church I never wanted to be a pastor but my family they want they wanted that I could say I was a decent young man as I was growing up uh we were not reach uh would have you know too much especially in Haiti but wait so so you went to a public school or was it a a Christian School technically was a it was a Christian School okay um it was a Christian School not just Christian school or 7day Adventist school because as a as 7day Adventist they they do not intermingle with other you know uh religions other Christian C uh group within Christianity so I had to go to a a 7 Day Adventist school so with we saw and we even within the school they had you know of course Bible studies and things like that with did certain principles and to tell you the truth even with the other there of course now I know there's a lot of Wong you know with I things like that but there were a lot of good I would say values and principles that that were used or that was you know that were that were thought in the church so in that particular church if you will that group within Christianity that even now it's it's it's it's still valid for life in general so those values apart from you know those from my families you know I'm caring for others helping things like that but uh there were a few here and there a few things learned from the from that group uh even a few skills as well but um that's pretty much it but I was I was very involved very involved ESP from a very very early age because they saw a lot of talent in me and things like that and my dad other you know Elders in the church wanted me to to be part of it so very early on I was very very engaged very very involved in the church I see I see so you were born and raised in Haiti and then at what point did you where do you live now we are I Live Now in uh in the states the United States we came I came uh to the state when I was well teenager but I I already finished high school in Haiti and then my my father used to leave here but visit once in a while but we're still in Haiti and After High School so we had a Visa and we came over here to the States now we living in state I've been living in state for quite over a decade now bashem and that's that that's where we are got it so how did you get in contact or how did you find or discover the organization or or the rabbi now how did that whole thing happen Okay this is uh that's a long story what I did not mention earlier is that as I've as I was growing up in in the church in fact not too long ago about probably two three or four years ago actually um my grandmother which is who's now living here she used to visit them as we were leaving I was I was living here she she used to visit from Hai to here on some a while and one time she came to visit and she was living with me then and then she reminded me of something that happened when I was I think she told me that I was 3 years old I was three or four years old she she mentioned I asked her a question um and she the question he said I ask her why do uh the Bible says there are many uh sh shabbats s through against they were discussing probably they were discussing that that in the in the study I don't know what you know but why why does he say that and then she could not she didn't tell me it she could yeah I guess every Shabbat so so forth and so on and then she said I want to mention that the father cannot die for the for the child and something something similar like that I guess they discuss in the in the in the in the in the uh in the story in the St so she said and then I say but Jesus died for us I come is it that possible she said ask I have no clue I don't maybe when I ask that but she said I asked that those two questions and then she had to explain to me why you know so for and so on why she explained to me that she you know and she learned she told me that after she learned that I converted to you know to Judaism but the story is I I've since that point I've always had doubts I've always had questions um even in church I talk to pastors things like that but I never really got answers I don't they were not like sufficient I don't think I really have anything that's convincing to me so all these questions were in my head I'm thinking since I was four years old I didn't even know but as I got older and I started get more involved involved and I was reading the text I'm like this does not add up and sometimes even in the church people would have discussion and then you you hear the discussion and I'm like okay you saying this this doesn't make sense I'm here listening and things are not adding up but of course as member of the church children you ask question nobody's so you don't really care your parents are here your friends are here so of course I'm there they want me to be there of course want to me want me to be involved I was involved in the church still of for these question on my but I'm not they are there I know uh I don't have enough answer for them I know something is something going on but I don't really think about about it too much so I just you know Let it go I have to do what I have to do I have to go to work I have to have to go to school I have you know if I have to do things in church I do it whatever it is whatever they want me to do I just do it so I I did not really make a big deal out of it go up here that's know that's all everybody say you know we are we are not the chosen one so for and so on so you know so there's nothing there's nowhere else to go I that's the best I know and what I know is that what they taught me is that the the Jews than the Bible because the of course the the New Testament they have the the Old Testament they have book it's called you Old Testament and New Testament and they say yeah that there the Jews once you know had a conent had a contract with Hashem and Hashem at some point they did everything bad so Hashem you know rejected them and therefore they those seven day Adventists they be they became the new they had a new covenant with hem hasem they became the no Chosen One the there's the where they use the the the the remaining if you will the the rest the remaining so they are the the remaining few that are good so therefore Hashem chose them you know you know let the Jews go the Jews are no longer a relevant so therefore they are the seven Adventist now they are the the new so knowing that I'm like there's nowhere else to go if that's the case um I don't know so I'm like it is what it is go to church you know sometimes for friends and so forth and so on uh and then that's how about it then everything hit after I graduated from high school um my uh we had a visa to come here my myself and my brother my father gave us um but he was leaving here then so we came here so I went straight to college and but of course bashem uh I was he graded me he gave me a gift a very good gift since very very early on I was very uh very intelligent at least according to many people had a very uh a very good memory if you if you will very very good memory when I came here to to the state of to college straight to college it was so easy to me that kind of I kind of lose focus in that W in school you know partying have friends so I was in the state you know you know so far as F you know you not I'm looking at me I'm decent looking guy I'm okay I have I'm smart people telling I'm smart people saying oh you intelligent so forth and so on you get as a as a teenager this get in your head and you have friends sometimes you're taking advantage of you and things like that so you are their party so I would you know instead of going to school things were also so easy that I didn't have to study so everything I I used I used to I did in high school pretty much especially math and things like that except for English that was you know kind of you know that's only my weakness because I was not to the language but everything as I most especially math or science things the like those things I pretty much I know already so so I had no interest in school because I was I was passing my grade my classroom with my class with abs and then yet I was barely studying because you know I feel like you know I was I was that much whatever so of course in more partying with friends and so forth and so on of course you know along this uh need us to say there's a lot of you know things that happen I need to mention and then around I would say 2024 um last year of college uh something hit me I I once I went to work and then from work I was sitting in the office I was working at office in school uh elementary school and then uh I had a headache my head was like pouty so I I I I told uh the my principal that and then my boss and supervisor they told the principal and then they say you know I can go home so go home get so I went home and then um it was hurt it was hurting so bad that you know I decided let me just go to the emergency room so I went to the emergency room so so on yes and um and they check they see why he just maybe to check the scan everything this it probably wasn't it was maybe stress I was I'm stressful uh I'm stressed things like that a lot of stressful things around me but nothing major they didn't see anything okay so they me a few things so I went back to you know to to work to school the next day of course after a few few days get my medication everything everything went away so F went back back to normal and finally a few months later same thing same kind of pin right back the same spot and then where where was the spot where was it hurting you that's somewhere back in my in the back of my head okay it was so bad to the point where I Not only was hurting very bad I could not bear it but it cannot make me lose my balance I could not I trying to St I could not I could not even hold myself so people had to esort me to move to get to my car and then someone said you know decided to you know come with me I'm like okay I about I I'll be fine so I sat down for a while so I started feeling better so I didn't want to take anybody I'm like I'm very private so I was also I was with my father I was still living with my father so I sat in the car for a while then I started feeling a little better and then I I drove home back cuz I went got home and as soon as I got home he got back worse went to and then I started you know uh hrie everywhere food could not stay and andless to say I ended up so short I ended up to the to the hospital and then from there on I had um I stayed there for about on in in and out about two three years in the hospital oh so went over three about three to four uh brain surgeries and so and so on to the point where I was leaving in the hospital I spent like about almost like six month you know in in the hospital wow and that was the worst thing that kind of uh at that time that moment was you know happened to my you know to me I I would see that that that could not there could not be any any worse than that to me as now would say that that was hell on Earth for me I was in the bed bed what what was it that I mean if you don't want to share I understand I of course I've been very private about this but at least for for that purpose I that I decided you know I have to reveal this for many reasons I I I I will definitely uh I'll tell you but after I spent yeah about two three years right then after I get to the hospital because I could not move I could not eat anything everything I I ate I just you know regulated everything nothing could water anything could stand could stay inside then finally the next day they had to do a surgery after they did every kind of scan and they said you know they saw there was something there's the fluid there's a fluid and a brain that goes around there was something that was blocking it and then they say could not flow that's what caused the the unbalance I could not balance my I lost my balance and I could not hold anything inside and then so they had to do a surgery and they did a surgery a first surgery right here to kind of create uh like a way for the fluid to flow and bashem I was right after that you know it took it was a m not too not too big of surgery after a day or two so I was up and about slowly of course but I I was able I started you know to eat a little slow slowly but you know and also I could stand I could not I was I was not you know uh I was not feeling dizzy anymore the thing was the the problem was not solved nobody knew what was what at this point nobody know what what he was and they just say they saw there's something they seem you know this the K Reve that this there's something that's blocking the fluid in the brain so they need to know what it is and then of course you everybody's scared I'm I'm I'm about I'm scared I don't even know scared I was at that point and nobody knows but they say they have to have another surgery again but and at this point everybody's calling everyone fames in Haiti New York everywhere on the world you know because and like I said because when I was brought up everybody everybody loved me to to a point first because well for some reason they thought I was smart uh I was very bright in school and or than my uncles and Auntie everybody everybody was so they let people know everybody was you know like it was a very bad moment for see like for the whole family going day to praying here and there and then I'm praying for my life I'm like you know God I don't want to die now so for S of course we can imagine I don't want to go back this but I not it's uh this see where I've come from so a disclosure this is than for myself but at least for purpose of of teaching that this is this is the only reason I decided I've thought about it many I've thought about it but I'm like I have to go I have to do this so finally my family decided okay fine we'll go with the surgery so they had to do a BC a BC in the back of the head where they feel like the the the the mass was if you will and then so they did the biopc and after they did the biopc usually after they know they do some such a s like a surgery of such they they let you know within like a week or or two they didn't let you know what's going on this time they they spent almost over over a month almost a month and a half nobody told me it was over a month no one tell came no doctors came to tell me anything and then my every every day my dad would come ask me have you seen the doctors have youen the doctors of course there are doctors on site but the the surgeons and people who did the surgery would they I see them so you were in the hospital for for a month straight this whole time what that at that time I'd been in in the hospital for more than three a few months already at that time but I was still in the hospital waiting for them because they had the room and everything I was waiting for them after the after the second surgery I think at that time he had been almost like almost three months already wow so when they came finally one person came came one doctor because he was a group of doctors many doctors working together I don't know if the the case was that big for them I don't know but there it's a group of doctor from Jackson Hospital in they have a group of doctors together so they one of them came in privately he came one day after about a month plus almost or almost a month and then he he said well he wanted to talk to me and then you have time of course right and then uh so he sat with me and he was telling me that uh of course the result from the barcy came but they have there's some kind of disagreement between the do the doctors one group was saying that it was some kind of infection that was was in the brain but um he say he doesn't believe that was an an infection and they want to treat me for that infection but he says according to you know it's been he tell me you know give me pedigree you know how long he's been working so forth and so on he say he really doesn't believe that that was an infection so he's just so he say he's just telling me so at least I have have the knowledge if they bring something to me so at least I've you know just he just you know technically just came I'm washing my hands you know this is what I know I don't believe so I don't I don't go with them I can tell you what happened I'm not quite sure that's something that's even professional if you would say uh looking at it back uh I can't tell you what happened but anyway that's what happened then about a week later group of doctors came about four or five of them and then so they start you know you know asking me how I was doing so for and so on same and then telling me that they they have the result so they have to sit on it think so forth and so on and they decided it was uh uh after they all they all agree at this point that it was uh some kind of call it lymphoma it's like a like a tumor in the brain so they told me of course I was you know devastated and then they say oh but there's hope they can you know uh there's treatments for it and so forth and so on like that you know at least they get it on a you know stage in the early stage or it's not so and then of course the the nose broke the he was so and then I was of course when my parents came I told them and so for and so on so now we debating okay should we go for treatment so that they proposing to do uh uh chemotherapy and then if chemotherapy doesn't work then we'll go through your laser thinking like I forgot if I remember I'll tell you but anyway so they like radiation radiation exactly radiation so they say first they'll trying chemotherapy if you know things it doesn't work then they they they follow through radiation so in in the process even to get chemotherapy I had to get to get um another surgery done so they can you know do the whole process the whole treatment but give lless to say that during the whole time I had I had a lot lot of time in my hand I was in the hospital and night I had nothing in know nothing else to do and finally I I I remember one day I I asked my father to bring me add my the Bible I said please bring me at least there's nothing to do uh I just can just read and then he came to me you know what I had a little question I'm like maybe I'll find those answers in the in the Bible so I'm looking of course and in the New Testament and then I'm looking for answers because that's that's pretty much what I know we only use the the Old Testament like Psalms and maybe some stories here and there but technically everything is in the the what they call New Testament I'm looking I'm looking and the more I'm looking the more I'm finding like mistake I'm laugh things that don't add up I'm like this is not adding up the more I'm reading the more I'm reading and things I'm something's wrong here and then I'm like okay that's that doesn't make sense uh I need to find an answer I mean these I'm seeing contradictions I'm see this and there and then I'm like okay um I got my phone so I'm like I'm stting you know checking you know putting questions on YouTube and getting you know to see what what you know what I can find what I can find and finally out of the blue I ended up on on a sh on a sh I some kind uh it was a show from ra M he was a show about proving that AEM is is right right God is right and then talking about different you know things you know proving that that different things that we know for sure that Hashem is right and then Jewish people are you know all right Hashem G the T to je people so I'm like then I'm I'm listening and I'm I'm like okay so the Jewish people are still alive yeah so at that point I had no clue that about J J Judaism that the Jewish Wasing I had no idea uh because like I told you I believe that you at least the the that group they say that the Jewish people are no longer actually rejected that so for and so on you so I had no I had no idea about Jews any of that so I did not know so I'm look so I'm listening to the show and I'm learning I'm like oh I'm like oh really and then I I started to get a few questions answered from my questions um you know um I have a few of them being interest I'm like wow really and then after that so I started to look more of you know more and looking for look more for you know for what what he had to teach one of you sure him he mentioned uh aav that the cha that was that had that was in the business world so for and so on and then he say he did he did he did to sha so for and so on and now he's teaching and then so he say you know and then he gave he he suggested the link to to follow you know his story and then then I followed the link and then to listen to the story and then I ended up on the story and I'm I'm as I'm listening to the story I'm crying I'm like this is me no and then um so then I started to we started my brother and I we started to listen to her to to that that rather I realized he has other lectures so we started to listen I don't remember which lecture I I heard first but we started to listen to to his lecture and then it was what day uh because at the old time I'm taking with taking that he's in New York because when he did this he was in New York all this you in the movie so it was in New York all this thing he was had business in New York and so forth and so on so I'm like okay uh we'll listen to him a very good gra we listen to he has a good teaching we keep listening listening but the more we listen the more I listen the more I get questions answers I'm like okay that's what that's what I was looking for this is the whole time this is what I've been looking for so I kept I kept listening and I'm like okay at this point or though at least I can just listen and right right then and there I started practicing even from the hospital at this in at at some point I told my my father I'm not going to church anymore and then at some point i' you know leave the hospital of course I you know uh I was discharge but of course we would go every day to go for treatment and things like that I think it was about after six months uh about no about four months I would say because I had to take therapy before I could try to walk again because when you look especially after the the biopsy when I first got off those I still going I was going to the to the to the church with his mission on Saturdays with them uh cuz I was still searching for my soul of course you know of I'm learning all these new things but I'm thinking okay they can be applied to where where I was so I was still going to church with them and then I was while I was in there the thing I I've learned and I was still like put you know when sometime they have discussion I would you know say a few things of those things that I've learned and so forth and so on until I realized at some point that you know okay I need to stop going to church all together and there's one from the one of R wen's lecture was saying you know how you know you have to stop going to church because church is you know idolatry and so for and so on and explaining why I'm and I'm like okay we need to stop going to church so my brother and I we just stop going to church on Shabbat mem there's a cousin of M for some reason that had already that was already on that path he was also Christian gr Christians but uh he I guess he found you know some truth we're learning with them every we go to him and then we study together but one time I was at home we had home my my brother and I and were listening to One of R Ren show so after you know a few a few weeks so almost a month over a month now and then as we were listening to the to the show and my brother say did you hear that he said listen again now I'm listening okay I hear a voice speaking I'm like okay I know this I recognize this voice and then he was like that's Rodney and then we had not heard from him in a while like a few months or probably over that maybe almost a year or so so he was asking a question from so like therefore the rabbi must be must be in in Florida somewhere find out that he was in Miami and he know you know what we have to go to sh we have to go this pretty much just how you know I I finally I got to meet uh back you saw his lecture you heard your cousin you found out he's actually in Hollywood um at what point did you like start to did you get any help from him as soon as we we heard and then we find we find out he wasn't M me was I said to myself we have to we have to go because i' had been listening to him and I'm like that's exactly what I was looking for that's what I felt like that that's what my soul was looking for as the city say you know what you're looking to go to the good Hashem you know make you you know find find ways for you to go to the good you want to do bad has by the same token we we'll match you with whatever you want to do in the same way you want you're looking for whatever you're looking for you looking for Rabbi ashem will give you the one your SW is looking for and the minute I started listening to it sure I know I know there's no that I that's you know that was that's what my soul was looking for so we look for him we look we looked it up we saw where he was uh he was uh he was he was doing the sh the shm from that point on uh I would say it was a blessing there I mean saying that receiving help uh to me is not uh it's not the proper way I would say because it that just help from that day on from that moment on uh arrives that it's not he has not just offered help we have had all kind of support whether it's you know you know emotional support financial support um you know spiritual support sometime you know we have we have guidance uh we have you know things different things we go into life and then hasem has been there supporting us in every kind of way whether to our 30s and uh it's and to tell you the truth I'm I feel like I'm indepted you know I don't know for it's just like like father you know your father your or your mother you should never you could tell you could see your mother help you this is makes no sense your father could say they have you it's it's it's no difference because he I been everything since that day so that that that's pretty much it I remember I used to see you guys when you guys first started coming in the Aventura so at this point what what did your family think about the whole um you know did you tell them or how did you how did they feel about it what what Happ with that whole thing I did tell them my my father when the whole thing started before my mother my mother was still in my I was with my father here then uh after I start after I decided that you know I would you know that's what I that's what I've been looking for that's what my soul been searching and I'm like okay um that's it that's it there's nothing else for me I I told my dad uh and we started we stopped going to church and we explain to him that you know the reason why we I'm going to church of course he was not too happy about it uh but he's not the type that you know he didn't tell us to show us you know okay he tell us that's okay and then but I know that kind of hurt him as a father you know he want out Children you know to follow what you do so take it to where at at the beginning but over time when he realized when he realized you know what we're doing when he saw I guess I would say the change or the how we have changed how we you know how we became compared to how we we used to be in the church so you realize you know what uh I I would rather you do this than being on the street you know selling drugs and do it like this so I I would hear him talk to other people and by it is you know what at least you know I know you know they are not doing something wrong they are you know so and then he he kind of made made peace with it and he really never had a want not it never I mean of course as a father you feel some kind of way but he realized that okay we are doing something that not every other you know uh uh teenager this you know will decide to do especially in in in the USA where you know there's a lot of things going on in the street so the fact that we decided to do that instead of those things he really appreciate that I appreciated that so he didn't allthough that I know that hurt him in a way but he he was not like against it it was not against it so from that point on so we start we start going to church and you know we started keeping toah as much as we could then when my my mother I I kind of brought my mother here when she came then uh and then we told she already know from Haiti CU my dad you know the word spread people know and then and then she was like she was fine with it of course none of them really you know that's that they would they would want but it is what it is so when you started to um follow the rby what would you say the hardest thing the hardest challenge that that you had to overcome I mean at this point you're going to the lectures uh you you're discovering the torah's truth um you know you're getting help from the rabbi are you converted at this point or not yet I this point uh I was in the process of conversion uh I did not convert yet and uh of course um yes now I discover the truth and I'm I'm more willing I'm more than willing to to to embrace it and I'm excited about the new Journey but by the same token there's a um of course when you when you leave your life a certain way for like for years and you have your entourage you have friends you have how you know people different people you know uh co-workers and so forth and so on and that some you know grew up with and you know we always out there you know doing things and even at that point of course I'm still you know I'm learning but I'm still you know some some of them will still together see have my friends you from work co-workers and so forth and so on sometimes you know I still talk to them we're still talking I don't have I mean you know it's not as much as it used to be but we're still in contact and and the more you're learning and you feel like it's it's hard I mean to let go it's that easy you want you want to you know you want to talk to your friends want to still do certain things and you realizing you what H you can't do that anymore and the more you trying to hold on to it the more you realizing no it's not it's yeah it's it's hard you don't want to let go but realizing it's not it's not working and that was one of the hardest thing I had to do because uh I got to a point I I have I pretty much had no more friends the all my friends I had and for some reason some of them we started trying to pull them into doing the same thing some of them you know used to you know these they follow lectures with me and at some point they just they just follow off they I guess that was not for them we have had to let those go and that was uh I would say very very hard along of course there are many other things but to leave the let the past you know stay in the past that was uh that was a very very challenging for uh I overcame it so but yeah I could that was definitely a challenge for me yeah that that's definitely uh sounds like the sacrifice that you had to make everyone's it is totally different you know and um I can understand I can understand difficulty and you're you're you're very young you know just came from Life of College college right college going out friends yeah all that stuff partying it's a big it's a big test Big Challenge a lot of gets out there but uh very very much so so you're getting guidance from the rabbi you you converted right barem yes how long did the whole process take barem the the the process did not take too long uh probably I would say less than a year or approximately a year and I would say the reason why because the one the the have was not from here so whenever we had the meeting was was spread through spread out because he had to go out of town but bahashem especially with r support because he was always there every time we had to go to the bed he was there and he was pushing uh because he know uh what we we had been learning you know what we what we know so he was pushing a lot for us so because of that and he didn't take a he didn't even take a year was about less than a year almost a year and the everything uh was was complete and then Basham we converted wow let's see um what are some of the goals uh that you have right now and uh like where do you kind of see yourself in the future 5 10 20 years from now there are a few goals I would say uh I've been trying about K we've been studying uh my brother and I since we started when since we converted one of the one of the long-term goals I would say is that Hashem of course we don't know how long we leave only Hashem knows but if it's part of his will if it's his will then one of the goals I have is to complete the sh we've been sing uh Theon would have been supporting us every every every step of the way and that's one of the goals we have I'm sure that's one of the goals uh he he hasn't to for us and uh that's that's the first thing first uh we want to M hasem we have the Merit I have the marit for this uh that's one goal I have in my and of course one of the goals uh now this was his short term he trying to especially now that's the the reason I decided to do this I've had this onv for quite a while uh I didn't have the courage to do it uh again I was very private about it I did not want but I realized hasem gave me a second chance Hashem gave me a second chance I was I was pretty much do if you will because when you have when you are there you you you think you're smart or people believe you're smart people are telling you you're smart you're intelligent so and so on and then you have you know all this and then and then you decide to do I should give you all this but you decide to do whatever you want you decide to go out there and you know go against him with this with what he gave you he gave me out as a memorial brand I use I use it for other things and that's one of the major things I've been working on I think B hasem with with the support of RAV that's one video I think he had a movie about that movie uh Tona breach also that kind of really saved my life it was until that it was even after the surgery and everything I realized I didn't really understand why thing had you know the the whole whole thing happened but after that teaching after you know I listened to Ral so many times and those teaching about Tona breath and things like that I realized I know I figure I then I like that's when the penny dropped for me I'm like okay now I know just just happened I realized exactly what happened and it was Hashem doing me favor Hashem give me a second chance to do cha and bashem um I could not um I don't know how can I think RAV again at this than AEM you know that he chose RAV for this because I realized Hashem was sending me a message and I couldn't get the message I didn't get the message but finally when I I met RAV and I heard those teachings I got those teaching I realized wow this is what happened that's the reason why the whole thing happened it was like a like a bless blessing in disguise if you will it was a blessing then I'm thinking it was the worst thing but now I'm looking back because if it was not that if I didn't get that message then who knows where my life would be right now so one of the goals I have because of that I I was thinking the other day after you you proposed that to me I'm like you know what I have to I've thought I've thought about it for quite a while I'm like maybe that's the time uh maybe it's at least it's time for me to let people know my story uh so at least people could do cha and I know I've heard something Rec said not too long ago I keep hearing once in a while because I had a show some people you know talking about of course GMA breed and things like that and then a lot of people don't think you know it's that serious and I'm leaving testimony I don't want to say the shanora about myself or my you know sins of you know for toilet I people can hear and change your life that's one of the mission I think I I trying to embar then at this with RAV because uh that saved my life is that easy to overcome but at least uh with uh help from Hashem uh I've succeeded and uh I can think uh AEM enough he was uh I don't know there's no make it was a it was a a huge favor because I mean why me could be any why why me why why why me really but AEM uh saved my life uh through ra and I think that's one favor I can rechar uh and that's why I decided you know I have to do this video to at least to show to tell the world that know it's not it's it's not easy to do sh especially for things like that GMA breed anything related to this it's not easy a lot of things would come your way it's been hard that's one of the things that that that was hard for me to also but uh it's possible if I've done it anybody else can do it and you and you can also you can also probably relate to the rabbi because uh you know in his movie ASM took back his millions he also has you know a similar story about uh you know him going through also uh many surgeries and and hardships like that in his life so that's kind of uh you know exactly kind of similar that's exactly what kind of kind of Drew Me drew me and because when I heard you know the story after I've M mentioned it I'm like oh he's just like me the thing that kind of that kind of pull me and I'm like wow so we went to the same thing and then that kind of gave me some kind of uh encouragement you will to go in live because I'm like you went through this I can go through this to so yeah that kind of definitely uh they some similari is what kind of advice help guidance would you give someone that's kind of uh in a similar situation to yours or someone that's also kind of uh wanting to do chuva and change their life what kind of advice what kind of um you know heads up or Warnings would you give them what would you prepare them for maybe one thing for sure it's not easy it's not easy it's not an easy task and the reason it's that it's that easy it because there's the reward is so amazing and I'm not I'm not even talking about the reward you know all buy and things like that I'm not even talking about this I'm talking about right now on on you know the physical the the physical we have I would say War because the the the word reward is misleading but the feeling you have after you've accomplished this is second to n it's hard it's not easy uh especially in this situation if especially if you has to do with with a GMA breath it's that easy because uh especially if your body's already used to it uh but and the reason also it's not easy is because the other side he knows he knows that if you overcome this the there is no this don't leave it and it's going to put everything possible in your way uh to to discourage you my advice to you is just keep going keep going strong you will fall you just have to get up keep moving you want the adversary wants you to to stop you want you to be discouraged you want you to give up so of course you're going to fight resistance you're going to fight all kind of you know uh push back but keep going keep going because not forget forget the fact that it's good for your soul there's plenty of reward you will find but when you finish when you realize that okay I've done this the feeling you feel it's Second To None I I can't even describe it uh because I don't know I don't even know how to put in the words but uh not only my life has gotten better um but um even emotionally or even it's it's a whole different world I don't know even how to explain it but you feel you feel so proud so good about what you've accomplished and then there's there's nothing you feel like there's there's there's no stopping you so it's yes yes it's going to be hard yes uh there's going to be all kind of things your way but don't stop do your best try every day wake up get do everything everything you have to do do the take everything that the Torah suggest you do you try your best has give you help and you'll definitely succeed that that's what that's that's the best uh the best advice I can give anybody anyone good it's good advice good advice definitely I never really have or that's for ra but unfor that app to do personally I never really take him enough I know sometime I say thank you thank you but um uh there's no word that can describe uh how much you know he you know hasem has used him to save my life so for that I'll be forever thankful soem bless them and I I would say that anyone who who's watching this um although there's a lot of things I left for but anyone who's watching this I understand uh if don't wait um I know sometimes your life is good you we feel like okay um there's we feel like we Invincible I I felt like that too I feel like that too I felt like I was on top of the world I was at some point I I thought I was famous uh at Le I thought I knew things I thought I was smart and I would use whatever Hashem gave me I use it um my own way to you know to do whatever I I felt like you know was uh was good to me and of course I had a second chance a lot of people have didn't have that second chance other people you know died or some get you know crippled little things so don't don't wait don't wait uh I didn't know uh some people don't know but now that you know if you know don't wait it's not worth it I've been there I've done it uh it's not worth it it's not trust me it's not so I would say anybody however you are if you're listening just if you if you were going that same path if you're doing the same thing please just give it up do TR that's that's only thing not only that's you're going to have reward for the for the know but you're going to feel right right here uh you're going to feel better about yourself your life going to change your surrounding everything so that's uh that's the only thing I could add you know just don't don't wait don't wait because after all nobody knows what's coming tomorrow you hear the next second you don't we don't even know what's coming the next second so there's no point of waiting because we don't know what's coming tomorrow so hopefully uh if you hear this anybody who hears this you know take advantage don't wait you don't have to go to the same thing I went to I went through he was not I can't tell you he was not he was not I'm talking about it right now you know I want to cry but it is what it is it was not it was not easy it was not it was not something good so you don't want nobody want to go through this it's very interesting I didn't know you know I've known you for such a long time I didn't even know all these things about you you know you never really know somebody you know I thought I knew kind of generally about you I had no idea you're like a different person even that's of course even the story in itself is a very long story proba take I how long to tell the story but I that's that's the story a lot Sher thank you for sharing it with us thank you for participating it's very clear that the hand of Hashem was Major whole process happen it's a big uh it's a big K hasem pleasure is the pleasure is my like I said I've been wanting to do this but uh of course time and also me being very uh was a little still very conscious about this and uh it's kind of so it was very hard for me but um I I would not let this opportunity go for anything I would not let this go so I'm like okay I have to I have to come out of my I have to open up I'm here I'm still shaking here right now I'm checking to you but sh well you took again you you uh you're a very good example of a person person that takes sacrifices you put AEM before you theem it'll help a lot of people it's a very story anything I can do to help to help someone even if it's one person do I had had a second chance I I I'm willing to I me to have anyone who would like to have a second chance that's that's my I should give me a second chance why not or you know use somebody as a chicken second chance at least give them the path so CH so any time all right not at all so we'll be in touch thank [Music] you a very special thank you to all our amazing guests who show realti sled by taking the time out of their busy schedules and sharing their ups and downs with us all for the sake of am May Hashem continue to bless you a thousandfold if you enjoyed this video you can find more of these podcasts on our website at www.m.org if you're are new to be sure to subscribe to the channel to hear more highly influencing lectures and stories like the one you heard here today thank you for watching and batm may we all have the Merit to 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