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Nefesh B'Nefesh Mega Event: Nachum Segal Interviews Rabbi Fass And Tony Gelbart
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Rabbi fast Tony gelbart
I just said it the way it is the two of
you is a dynamic duo the sum is greater
or I should say the total is greater
than the sum of its parts
you like that huh that is beautiful turn
on right by fast as microphones we can
hear them so we can hear him complement
my my analysis what do you think of that
in my face
that was very beautiful greater than the
sum of its parts the two of you together
have made such an amazing effort have
undertaken such an incredible task
the results speak for themselves
and sure enough but the two of you are
able to accomplish is greater than the
sum of the uh of the two parts uh Rabbi
fast is rejoining US Tony Gilbert Shalom
welcome to you sir thank you heard you
had some trouble at the airport yeah
they had to change the tire but
everything's good and you've been at a
million planes I'm sure that's happened
before no yes that's where I live it's
basically on the plane right
we've heard stories from Tony most of
his great ones come from travel come
from the traveling on the plane all
right uh gentlemen congratulations the
mega event is the largest ever which
must be an incredible feeling
close to 1300 people they already they
told me earlier about close to 150 are
registering who had not pre-registered
for the event I assume that number has
climbed since it is a couple hours ago
and it is unbelievable to watch how
people here in North America have this
face check this incredible desire this
amazing yearning to be in the Holy Land
you saw earlier we spoke to somebody
who's leaving March the 13th
going through the process as soon as for
some it's not quick enough for some they
needed to happen immediately and they're
ready to make it happen in one week if
need be
which is unbelievable and of course for
this summer and for the big flights that
are coming up there's so many families
that are going to be benefiting from uh
from this mega event and from all the
work that their parents at the
Children's parents have been doing
online and through the telephone number
over the last few months what is the
average someone makes the first call how
much later are they in Israel
families yeah
nine months simple as that yeah
and therefore those who are here today
it's not unlikely that they could be the
this summer or certainly before the end
of 2016. some families approached me and
said we're just starting the process
we're gonna do it what are the flights
this summer right and once you give them
the dates they're ready to sign
themselves up it's pretty amazing now
when the two of you were on last time
and I believe it was at bengurion
airport you alluded to the fact that
there are bigger plans coming that there
are a lot of things happening down the
road some of which you can't always
reveal publicly
what's happening Tony what what happens
13 years later that could possibly add
to this entire experience that could
make the Jewish Community around the
world and specifically North America
benefit even more from the work that
you've been doing with neffish benevich
look in North America
you know we've done a good job and the
people are receptive to what we do you
see the energy and you feel the energy
in this room pretty amazing and uh it's
just over the top
um I think the future God willing holds
for us uh a lot of challenges but if we
can duplicate what we've done and built
here in North America to other countries
that's a little bit of hint of the
secret so um we're looking forward to
the future and bringing more Jews from
around the world to Israel you've made
efforts in other countries correct there
have been efforts in other countries
already outside of the United States
correct well not real efforts uh-huh you
need a stronger one you need a better
one yeah we've been receptive on a
response level but but to actively model
what we've done here to other countries
that's that's the next Frontier is this
a director from the Israeli government
or is this a uh gelbart fast idea or a
little bit of both
yes it's everything huh no no comment no
no it's a little bit of both but uh I
mean there are people in the government
asking you the way it sounds I'm just
conjecturing here you can you can deny
or confirm as much as you wish there are
people who are asking you to get
involved in places outside of North
America to help facilitate Aliyah and
that means obviously educating a staff
in different languages uh learning and
or at least getting people who are
familiar with the culture of those
countries to
I don't want to say infiltrate but to
you know to to bring the message of
Aliyah to those communities not an easy
test it was tough enough in North
America when you guys are really you
know pretty pretty well versed in what's
going on in North America we know
English yeah exactly you know the
language and you know how things work
you know how Americans think it's not
going to be easy in other places around
the world
thanks for your vote of confidence
and we might reassess all of our plans
you can't do it I'm trying to impress on
people how tough a road it is that's all
look in this um in the climate of uh
politics that we're going through today
you can understand that we're going to
be very careful what we say here but the
challenge uh the opportunity and the
excitement is to take the blueprint that
was built that we built with Neptune
fish you know this is the road map the
blueprint and see if we can
um
duplicate yeah to move it to other
places uh in need people in need and you
know when somebody cries out you want to
help you want to do what you can all
right so that's what we're gonna do we
we hear the cry and we're gonna help
it's not that we didn't think about it
before we thought about it since day one
but you know North America is a very
cool place for Jews to make Aliyah too
to you know to come from and there's
other places as well and you can just go
down and listen guests and I'm sure
you'll you'll guess well you can go
through an entire global map and you'll
find plenty of places uh uh Tony Gilbert
or by Josh fast they are with us dynamic
duo that leads nefreshments that founded
this incredible organization
um everybody out there is encouraged not
just to be at this mega event but at
this point if you're not able to be here
today to certainly explore Aliyah
through their comprehensive website at
nbn.org.il and of course their phone
number at 866 for Aliyah we've told the
story how the two of you dreamed of this
many many times uh it's gotten to a
point where now we could say how many
tens of thousands have moved to Israel
because we're at fifty thousand at fifty
thousand already which is pretty
remarkable and those numbers continue to
climb we are no longer surprised by what
states are represented by Aliyah no I
don't know if we've got no 50 but we're
certainly close right we're close we're
very close and I assume that includes
the provinces in Canada as well right
are we close to all of them very close
to all of us
not having achieved all of them already
we're not shocked at all anymore we're
anglos where North American Jews want to
move to in Israel right every area of
the country is basically covered 134 134
different communities yeah and you
initiated and this is I mean we had a
chance to speak about this just as you
had done it the go north go South all
these different initiatives which helped
areas of Israel grow in terms of an
Anglo uh Jewish Community is there
anything that we haven't covered yet is
there any concept or any initiative
you've done the medical and you've tried
to attract people you know from
different Industries to move to Israel
anything we haven't done yet or anything
in the in the works we've covered lone
soldiers as well right and you show that
uh we're the only real non-profit
appointed by the Army to service all
all alone soldiers around the world
after they make Aliyah and when they
have to serve so there's a body that
helps them as well all right so uh we
might also extend soon to individuals
who volunteer as well so that's also
on our short list of 2016
accomplishments we haven't done anything
with broadcasters yet yeah we have
podcasters there is going to be a
broadcaster Fellowship that we're
launching in 2016. really yeah that's
good to know yeah
you've been working with us um day one
and doing a wonderful job you know I'd
even speak to him they just came off the
plane like talking about streamlining
the application process you're really
really streamlined in this case I don't
think there is an application process
for for broadcasters one of the things
that you've done that you've given me a
uh a good um a segue one of the things
you've done is of course made this
process as easy as possible uh I wonder
if anybody has has anyone done the
research what the OLED the 1970s had to
go through on average in order to
actually get this process going great no
I know they're the things we've
discussed and things that happen on the
plane that obviously never happened back
then but a real analysis a real you know
side-by-side comparison would be insane
right it's it's you can't compare it
it's just a different world and
sometimes I think that olim today don't
even know the contrast right to what it
was maybe 10 years ago when the
transition was happening but now it's a
completely different world this morning
when I was at JFK waiting for an hour to
get through passport someone I never I
don't know who the person was tapping on
their shoulder and says can't Netflix do
this can't you just to fix this problem
yes but thank you no question about it
um I thought of that this morning as we
started this show that there are people
now in this Alia process who don't
realize that never been that fish really
one of the reasons it was created was
because of the balagon and if not for
that and in a way we have to be thankful
for that polygon because look at the
look at the incredible uh and amazing uh
Aliyah that now exists all that
processes now exists because of what
used to be and now we have this uh this
amazing process which gives people a
huge shout out to the dysfunction
because dysfunction got us to this point
that's exactly what I'm saying yeah but
the world of technology also moved the
process along you know it's run like a
business but the the world of technology
we could do things today in technology
you couldn't do before I mean the the
yearning to go to Israel and live in
Israel if 1970 1948 and 2016 it's the
same heart the same yearning technology
methods you knock them sitting here and
and broadcasting live here think about
that for a moment that's that's never
been happening before so in 48 they
didn't have that and 72 they didn't have
that but now they have it so it's hard
to believe it's really sure uh what are
your words of advice for those who uh
come I'm sure you get people who come up
to asking about moving to Israel right
asking you if they should do it or you
know if it's as easy as it sounds or you
know where should they start what do you
tell them when people like that come
over to you and ask you go first
all right what do you tell them
to follow their dream
to to give that dream some kind of
validation
and to do the research to get good
advice sometimes that initial step is
the scariest step sometimes people
are somewhat scared of the vastness of
the vision and they don't even want to
encounter the details and sometimes
people are fed bad advice and they quash
their
their Dreams by just ill advice and Ill
suggestions
you owe it to your dreams and you owe it
to your passion to do the homework and
the research that's necessary and to
follow it and even if it means that you
don't come through with it just to give
value to the system to that concept and
to allow you to take those few steps and
uh and I encourage individuals just to
take those baby steps just for your
children also to see them the parents
also just
giving giving value
to that to that concept so if it doesn't
work for that generation the next kids
see that struggle of their parents and
they see that their parents wanted to
but it didn't happen and there are
thousands of reasons why Alia doesn't
work for people and and people maybe
should not get on the plane but for that
generation Next Generation to see that
struggle
that that itself is maybe the best
inheritance that you can give to your
kid so that maybe they fulfill that or
at least the Baton of Zionism and Co
notes and the value of Eric Israel is
passed from generation to generation
showing them how critical it is how
critical Israel is to the family look I
don't think there's a day that goes by
where someone doesn't ask me about
Aliyah right the Shabbos included and
more so on shots like yesterday but I
can I can tell you that the advice that
I would give and do give no matter who
they are is don't go in with one toe
don't just take that little toe and
stick it in it's gonna be it's gonna be
cold take the plunge go in and it might
be cold but instantly you'll feel that
you made the right decision the warm the
water will be warm so it's not just a a
little inch you want to take you want to
plunge you want to give it all your
heart and all your might to go ahead and
make it everything that you think it's
going to be and if you struggle if there
is a struggle and generally there's
always something but when you do that
it's the plunge that will make you work
it's not the toe in the water Tony
Gilbert or by Joshua fast so when you
first dreamed of this and we've spoken
very often about the first Shabbos that
you brought this idea to each other and
started you know bouncing it around so
was there a great fear was there a
trepidation was there a more toe-like
feeling than the entire body jumping
into this project
I don't think so no fools no I told him
I needed 24 hours yeah and then I said
when he gave me this the whole process
the whole idea and I said uh I need 24
hours gotta check with the wife got to
think about a few things I said but if
we do it it's not 100 it's 110 100 I
think the day after our first Charter
flight
July 9th 2002. I think we looked at each
other like now what what's next 747
landed we had a prime minister deck we
did it we had 400 people came off the
plane and we looked at each other like
okay
what's the next one what's the second
act
and you didn't know at that point with
the next fact we had dreams we had a
business plan but it just it was like
this is
there was a movement that was that we we
felt many times and we've said this to
to each other many times over the last
13 14 years that that we're we're on a
ride that that sometimes we don't feel
that we're behind
the driving wheel that there's a
movement here there's a Thrust and we're
just very very privileged that we're
taking along for for this very very
intense and very spiritually beautifully
um satisfying Journey it is unbelievable
um no we
we always said it's not about Rabbi fast
and it's not about Tony galbart it's
about the people making Aliyah build a
brand a credible brand that stands for
integrity efficiency with a heart it's
like a business with a heart
and then run with it and that's it
that's how it works and sure enough it's
worked uh you feel it's important uh we
we know there's a phone number I know
there's a website people approach you
but you feel it's important for your
staff to approach others to have an
event like this in many different cities
not just New York and bring this to the
people it's not just the people that
you're encouraging to come to you you
want to bring this whole concept to the
people
in this talking about what Tony was
saying about technology we we've like
everyone else people are not leaving
their homes
um people are Googling everything people
are competing everything it is rare to
have people leave the Comforts of their
home to gain information and they're not
really coming to gain information
they're coming to get a personal
connection and we had a huddle here
beforehand before this and I grabbed
everyone here my whole staff before and
I said people are coming for you they're
not coming to hear about shipping
they're not coming about rights because
they can easily call our toll-free
number they can easily email us and get
it responsible in 12 hours they're
leaving their homes they're taking their
Sunday off they're schlepping out to to
to the Crown Plaza because they want to
see a face they want that connectivity
they want to see in your eyes that you
care and you're concerned about their
individual plans and that's what's going
to help people move
it's so true it's the handshake it's the
hug it's the smile and it's the
personality because in today's age of
technology which we utilize to the max
it's this personal feeling that you care
is what really is important for people
and that's what drives them here to the
mega event in New York City I just had a
couple they came to me they said we
emailed you on Friday I said yes I know
they're like we just wanted to shake
your hand I was like but you've got all
the responses no we just we wanted to
connect I was like Wow who would think
in 2016. people still want to connect
huh it's a huge it's a huge decision a
move it's it's it's it it can transform
the trajectory of of a whole family's
line so it's not enough just to have
this cerebral information being gleaned
from the internet you have to have
someone help you or escort you you have
to have that confidence and faith in in
the people that are entrusted in helping
you make that move yeah when I was
coming up the escalator now somebody was
going down the escalator and yelled out
hey Tony I go turn around somebody I
know for many many years he knows
everything about Aliyah one of his sons
made out of the uh joined the army did
all the things and I said what are you
doing here he goes I'm just feeling it
I'm just looking around this is great I
said you get information I said yeah all
the information I just want to look
absolutely true
there are people used to go to Israel
real estate exhibitions not because they
ever thought that I could buy anything
they wanted to be in that atmosphere you
know exactly I want to be there and get
to Israel as soon as possible gentlemen
you're amazing both of you and so are
you now thank you very much Rabbi Josh
fast Tony Gilbert they are the founders
of damage thank you for having us here
today thank you for coming thank you we
can do this live on the plane yes that
would be a good idea right my test is
working on that yes yes
thank you both very very much all right