Weekly Update: Nachum Segal and Malcolm Hoenlein Discuss the Latest News

Malcolm Homeline is with us. We call this the weekly update conference of presidents of major American Jewish organizations. Mr. Homeline, a pleasure to say welcome back to JM in the AM. >> Always good to be with you. >> Appreciate that very much. So curious, and you're going to be shocked. I'm starting with this. So curious what you thought of the president's Pearl Harbor joke. >> Uh I don't think it'll win an award for appropriateness, but But but but you know he just says things off the cuff and and it's not the first time. He doesn't mean anything malicious by it. >> It's actually a pretty funny line. Just you know >> I was just but it's an old joke. I know I know a case where somebody actually said this to a Japanese official and got thrown out of the country >> uh business people but uh many years ago and um uh they are very sensitive. You have to be very careful. I had a chance to meet with the U minister, the leader of Japan which in a rare meeting uh because they would never schedule meetings before and I told him I don't go unless I know before >> right >> and then actually gave me the meeting and we sat down and uh and he first he looked at me and said why are you so influential >> and you and your answer was >> I said because people who care have influence people who get involved have no influence and Jews care. I said, when you had the tsunami, what was the first country that responded? Who were the first people raised money for the victims of the tsunami? Well, people are denying that Israel was taking aid. You could see an LL fly plane flying right behind them landing there with assistance. And I said that that you know it comes from our tradition of being involved in caring for others etc. And then he looked at me and said, "So why did Hitler hate the Jews so much?" And your answer was, >> I said, I can give you the reasons that he rationalized his hatred, but hatred by its nature is irrational. And look at the destruction it brought. I was going to say on your war effort, too, but I think I'd quote myself. >> And um that the that he was willing to sacrifice even his own national goals to to divert the bullets in the trains to killing Jews when his own front was was collapsing. And I said it's it's the you know it's hatred by its very nature is destructive. And um went on with that and then it led me into what I really wanted to talk about was I said that the plane I saw taking off as I landed was Iran air. And I started going into the hatred that Iran and how it's going to bring about destruction in the region and elsewhere. And I saw that he was paying attention, but until I said, "And you know that they have a synergistic relationship with North Korea because they're apoplelectic about North Korea, >> right?" >> And I said, "You know that the the nuclear program when they have a nuclear explosion, Iranian scientists are there, that Iran's missiles are based on the nong made by North Korea." And that caught his attention. And boy, did he we have an intensive discussion and and as soon as we finished, I went to meet the foreign minister. I mean, he literally grabbed me by the arm and sat me down and said, "Explain to me this North Korea Iran axis." >> Wow. >> So, so the Japanese are very sensitive to it. It's it's something but it she didn't seem to react. Uh >> yeah, reacted in the exact way you'd expect someone from that part of the world to react. Let's put it that way. I want to be very careful how I say it. But boy, you know, God is the ultimate producer. You and I have always said that. And we've start I started with this topic. We've stumbled upon a very very important thing to discuss with this audience for a minute and we need a pep talk from you Malcolm. How should people respond? Because now today in every forum not just on talk radio and not just on social media but in the office and in interpersonal relationships this question is being asked of noticeable members of the Jewish faith. Why does the Jewish community/Israel have so much influence? I think we need a minute from you that where people need to hear how to process this and how to respond properly to it. >> Well, well, we could ask the same question of all the other groups that have are involved. The Armenians punched right way above their weight until until recently against others. You know, the Greek lobby was very active and often representing smaller populations than the Jewish community and pro-Israel community is not Jews. It's a majority of non-Jews who stand with Israel who understand its significance importance and people who see the who who don't want to see an isolation as America will understand that American security depends on what happens abroad and could it could be more clearly demonstrated than what we've seen now in terms of oil in terms of other uh concerns related to Iran those who understand that Iran posed a danger first and foremost to America the great Satan then death to Israel um that the the you cannot America because of its nature cannot live as an isolationist power and protect its its interests. uh you see the changes in South America which directly affect the security of the United States, Iran, China, others all exploit these situations to undermine America's interest and they certainly were doing it in the Gulf region and maybe this will bring about the change with countries like Qatar and and the Muslim Brotherhood alliance with Turkey and a little bit of Egypt, Libya, others uh which pose a threat and and this cancer had we let it continue to grow in Iran. You see how much 17,000 sites? You see how powerful this was? One huge military muscle. And that muscle was going to be used to knock out our allies. You see that they attack all of the allies, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait. Nobody's heard from Kuwait for for years and they attacked it. So it tells you the the hegemonic designs, their their messianic visions and and uh to a degree Turkey shares some of those visions and they they want to be the the hedgemen in the region and are moving and and plenty of people are taking advantage of the focus moving away including I think Hamas as we read that they rebuild in in Gaza that the u that this battle that Israel is waging is the little country that's not on the map is waiting for all of all over the West. >> And you just just I mean not stumbled, but you just you know brought up another important point that people need to keep in mind as Israel continues to be criticized u you know for for its uh imperialism and its imperialist attitude and goals. Uh whether that's true or not, forget that for a moment. We'll use that as a premise for a second that Israel is constantly uh being um uh being accused of that. As you just pointed out, look at all these other countries. Look at all these countries that think they're powerful in the Middle East and that region. They all have again the same type of imperialistic messianic vision. And it's not just and if we say that Israel has it, it's not just limited to Israel. >> So, and just think if Israel wasn't there, what what what would they have done? Lebanon has been relegated into insignificance, can't defend itself, and they don't want the people there welcome and blame for the war. Although if you listen to NPR or any of those stations, you wouldn't believe that there was an enemy in the country, that Israel's just usurping it. Look, you know, we'd rather have the condemnation than the condolences of the world. We we're not going to allow ourselves just to continue to be memorialized and everybody crocodile tears over dead Jews while proclaiming the kind of things that they say about, you know, the river to the sea and the antifa. We got to take those things seriously, especially when it comes from a public official and and his associations and glorifying those who participated in these things. It's time for us that we have to stand up to those things, not tolerate it, not accept it. I think that we shouldn't focus so much on certain individuals who whose names I don't want to use because that I would be doing it, but who are on the internet who are fools. I mean, they're they're and many of them are receiving foreign funding. We have to make sure that all of those things get exposed. who's behind these movements, the role of China, the role of Iran, the role of others. And and we'll find how much the vital interest of the United States, this is not about Jews. This is about Western civilization, about Western values, about the survival of our countries, let alone Jews are always the the the tip of the spear, but well, we're the first victims. We're never the last. >> Yeah. Uh the rockets continue to fly, and I'm sure you hear the reports. You have relatives there, obviously, close relatives as we all do. uh who are running in and out of shelters constantly every night it seems because we get alerts every time that uh some siren goes off. It does and and that's obviously a topic that if you want to address uh as you always do in terms of what our brothers and sisters are going through, please do so. But on top of that, it seems to me that that I had been under the impression that the enemy, whether it's the Houthis, whether it's the Iranians, whether it's Isbalah, whoever it is, always avoided direct hits on Jerusalem for obvious reasons, you know, Arab population, holy sites, etc. And it seems this time around that Jerusalem is a real target. What's the difference this time? you're actually pointing out a very important thing that and a distinction I also noted and raised with some public officials here and others to to talk about this. This is a qualitative difference. It's not the quantitative difference. And you know, we've had the ability to shoot 100 rockets at a time, especially firing 150 to the north in in a in a single day. It's um it's uh it is a real big difference and one that we have to to look at. But you're right this time they aim. Now the question is do they have the guidance systems that sufficiently defined to that these rockets were meant to hit other targets near but not to fly at Jerusalem certainly not to uh fly over the old city and the and the eastern Jerusalem. Um but but we see that also in in other places where they attacked Arab villages in Arab uh hitting in uh in Uden Shamron killing those three women this week in in one from run of the rockets. It's hard always to discern whether it's one of these bomblelets if it's you know these cluster bombs and I don't see the outrage. Where's the world's condemnation of the use of these cluster bombs against civilian populations knowing that they spread they kill children. They can they go they they hang in a tree, somebody picks it up, they they land all over civilian populations. Uh and and as far as I know, they are outlawed, but it doesn't seem anybody cares about that. The um you know, the targeting of Jerusalem is uh is a a serious change. And yet you don't hear condemnation from the Arab countries that when Israel took steps like now to protect the people by not letting them go up to the hotel to to the Harbay to Muslims, Jews, Christians, everybody was equally restricted for their own safety because there's no there aren't there's no miklot on the top of Harab that if there's something happens I mean there's no place for them really to run and uh at the hotel you have some more protection But I think they don't want people out in the open plaza, >> right? >> They always always get enough notice and and people get hurt running. So this was a precautionary measure. They allowed a certain, you know, a couple dozen people to each of the places. So it's it's clearly not religiously restrictive. It's not discriminatory. And yet if you listen again NPR, so many other stations and the guys on on the internet, you know, blasting away about how they they are denying them access during during Ramadan. But then if if they died there, if they got hurt there, >> oh boy, >> guess guess who would get condemned? >> Yeah, of course. Uh we continue to pray for our brothers and sisters in Israel. Will they have a quiet Shabas, Malcolm? One can only hope, a peaceful Shabas. I spoke to somebody who's uh very involved in the high I mean you know plenty of people high up in the army. There are people literally who have not slept in 1920 days. I mean that they're on call the entire time. And obviously you've seen the reservist numbers etc. That's one very serious situation. Uh spouses and children without their uh without their spouse and without their father or mother. And then at the moment and then of course the uh the the constant running back and forth to the shelters. one could how how can we on this side of the world even imagine what it's like to be awakened uh at midnight on a Friday night and have to run uh you know with little kids to a shelter >> and repeatedly today four times I I got an email just before from a friend who said already four times today they were they had to go to um uh to the shelter and remember not everybody has a shelter in their apartment which means they have to go let's say to a common basement >> uh those that are have it in the apartment many sleep there anyway and they just close the door. >> Um and and u I mean my children there have it uh great grandchildren are living there and I know yours are there and and but I think about them all the time and they have two little little children. and they came on Ali less than a year ago but they are tolerating it and they are living with it and the kids seem to be are very resilient but I feel speak to colleagues and people who are professionals in there and it just really beginning to take a heavy toll they don't sleep >> and then they they have to conduct their regular day jobs so you think of the toll the economic toll the physical toll the personal toll that it takes let alone the fact that that people have been badly hurt and killed and there's a huge amount of destruction and the world's the Arab countries don't come and pour billions of dollars there to aid in for Israel in rebuilding. They rebuild themselves and they move right away to clean it up and to move and to to do it. So we have to remember when and when you see appeals for people make sure you go to legitimate ones. But I hope for pesak we will help all of these families who as you said rightfully said have not had ben winners for some for a year at a time. >> Those of you who are looking we we we spent a lot of time on Wednesday talking about this cause. If you're looking to help families uh and literally send them a virtual hug with a gift card for PES. It's bitly bit.lyf family. Again bit.lybit.f family. It's America's one and only Jewish moments in the morning radio program heard on listener sponsored digital radio around the world. Talk about perpetual exhaustion around the web. Nalomusicle.com on the single network and of course on the beloved NSN at Malcolm Homeline with us weekly update. What do you think of the resignation of Joe Kent? Uh the uh the the report was that it was his objection that we were fighting Israel's war that caused his resignation. And then of course the aftermath, the things he has said since he left office. What do you think of the whole episode? >> Well, first of all, he shouldn't have been in the position in the first place. He um uh his comments are u that he's certainly part of u the unmentionable uh Carlson and others that he he shares that ideology. It's not it wasn't unknown. If you look at his congressional hearing for his approval, senators, especially Democrats, raised a lot of these objections and associations with quote white supremacist and other but extremist uh uh entities and associations. His um he it's not a report of his comic. who wrote it to the president and and and in his resignation says that it was the you know America was uh was led into the war because of the Israel lobby the powerful lobby uh in uh and he he uh I'm sure will be amply rewarded by the extremists in in this but in the long run we'll find that that is not where the American people are. You saw that MAGA 100% support for the president on the on the war according to CNN which I'm sure did not want to report that. Uh it is true it is true that it's a question by American people. They should question any war every any engagement. But if the problem is not to understand after all these years the threat that Iran poses and the the the danger that we this cancer that we are uh taking out and the the the the just the number of drones and missiles and stuff and the infrastructure let alone the nuclear program should have should send uh uh chills up everybody's spine to think about what would have happened had they been allowed to continue and put a nuclear or tipped warhead on those on those missiles. They are powerful. They they you know they put in the cluster bombs which I don't know that people knew I I haven't heard from military people that they were aware of it. They knew that things were in development but that they could manifested like this and and and to think that this guy was in a critical position and there are others in that agency maybe people media have have identified even his boss as having these strange views. Um it shows us we never can take it for granted why we have to be alert and always aware and that the the the process should be one that should weed out people like that. It doesn't mean everybody has to be viewed the same and it doesn't mean people can't be critical of Israel or of the war. That's I think a right the right of people but we we have you can't create your own facts and certainly not say that this was you know that President Trump is somebody who gets manipulated by others. Anybody who sees him knows that this is not a guy who's being driven by others. That could be the facts that he gets it, the people around him, but he made this decision and that's been amply demonstrated and this attempt to try to portray this instead of highlighting the amazing cooperation. And you listen to any military guy from America that is quoted on these on the on how they work with Israel and that this is a model that throughout America's history, we've never had this kind of close cooperation and success. >> You never know. You never know who somebody is and what they're thinking, what they're doing. You saw that somebody who was uh involved in the supervision of the Iron Dome was giving information to Iran. >> Yes. and and that you get elected people who have long histories or or their spouses or others of the most vicious hatred and very little accountability about it. People just slough it off. But the you know you can today it's open season and we we really have to draw the line in the sand and say no more. I don't, you know, as as um you know, we have said so many times in the show and and over the years that the the world is great at memorials for dead Jews. We want them to stand up for living Jews in a living Jewish state. We're not asking for a favor. We're asking for them to recognize what what Israel represents. It's a the the sole bastion of democracy standing against all and how do how do all these countries now UAE, Saudi Arabia, everybody looks and says, you know, thank God for Israel. If it weren't for that, could they do they defend themselves? They they knock down the missiles that are coming down, but many get through, but could they offensively defend themselves and take on an Iran if they had wanted to to move against these countries? >> Yeah, >> big question. >> Yeah, it's a good question. All right. um the NATO countries, the NATO allies, have they in fact rejected any uh plea from the United States to help reopen and secure the street of Hermuz? >> No, I think that they are France, Germany, Britain, Netherlands, I think Belgium, and others have agreed now to to uh yesterday they put out a statement and you know they're the ones again who who pay the price for it much more than we do. we're self-sufficient in energy. We could manage. >> But they would also criticize the United States for starting the whole thing. >> Yes. And and and instead of saying, you know, we're going to help clear this up once and for all because they always have this democrat sword to hang over us that they can close the straits of Iran, the the straits of Hermuz, you know, the Houthies could could threaten Baba Mandab. Why are we tolerating this? And and 20% of the West oil comes through there. They've caused a price increase not because of this war alone but for because of the Houthies firing on the ships that they can't get insurance. So they had to raise the prices and and I think it's up 15 20% because of them and the the you know that the world is willing to tolerate. Why? >> Yeah. Uh yeah. Israel struck a gas field in Iran. Um they claim that they had that the United States had advanced notice and gave permission for the mission and now the United States primarily President Trump are saying that in fact there was no advanced notice and that Israel did not have permission. Where do you think the truth lies? >> Well, it could be that that they notified the uh their counterparts, the military counterparts and the message didn't go all the way up. It could be that they um you know a breakdown in communication but uh and and and this will be debated whether it was wise to do this to hit the thing because you know the the Iranian people are very nationalistic even the Jews there you notice how they continue the culture the identification after living there for 2 and a half thousand years uh we know that in the communities of great neck Los Angeles and elsewhere where they are they perpetuate their Jewish culture but also the and it's greatly infused by Iranian culture and and facts. So it even affects them. But overall the country is very nationalistic and and the people I work with in Iran, the dissident leaders, people you see in sometimes in the papers and uh people who were top leaders who came with Kami, they say to us, don't destroy the things that that are are are important for the infrastructure. Like you see the Israel didn't take out the electricity. They could have easily bombed the uh production plants, but they left it because then you punish the people, you turn them against it, and you want to leave it so that the country can function afterwards. And and Paris, the the oil field is that is that kind of the symbolic place. Uh I think that a time would come when you'd have to do it because that's the only thing that will stop. That's their major source of income. I think hitting Car Island even though we only hit the military infrastructure there the United States we did not take out the oil refining capacity though there may have been some damage to it I think because they appreciate what the significance so knowing this kind of details and seeing it from the perspective of the other side tells you sometimes uh better about what what is appropriate and and what can sometimes backfire against you and the the I think the um fact that the uh uh that they hit Saudi Arabia and UAE and others, they were doing it before. So, this became an excuse for them to be able to hit their oil fields, which is something that they've been threatening to do all along. Um we're we're we're getting used to the higher prices in terms of oil and gas. I mean, any gas station, you'll see it's reflected there in the price. Uh what about air travel? Are we going to be paying a lot more because of fuel? Uh yes, if if planes are flying and if uh we can get over this um this period, the answer is yes, but it'll come down quickly. We have a lot of excess production capacity there. >> But the airlines never reduce these prices once they go up for oil. >> Well, when competition and other things happen, yes. And if the government steps in and says that they're not going to gouge the people, but the the uh what bothers me is that the g you know they changed the price on the gasoline on the tanks the next morning when in fact the gas that they have now was purchased at the lower price. And how is it that they could you know immediately change it and raise it? Uh and >> are you telling me how to run my gas station? >> I'm telling you how to pump it, man. and and and the uh but the you know we this will be short-lived. We we will we can come back from this very quickly and the United States has a lot of excess capacity to produce now with the Venezuela online. How you know isn't it amazing how none of the media none of the people talk about the amazing changes that are taking place in South America which nobody can doubt is has direct implications for America's security for the balances of power. the fact that so many countries Paraguay, Uruguay, Honduras, Skuador, Panama, all Venezuela are all all going through and now Cuba going through massive changes to be pro west and to be to be at least diminishing the power of the of these countries where China and Iran invested huge amounts because they wanted to fight America from off our southern coast, not from 8,000 miles away. And and I think it it's amazing to me that the the bias, not to give any credit to the administration, make sure that that you know, we always look bad, America should looks bad in the eyes of the med in the way the media portrays us consistently. >> Did you see the president of Argentina when he was in the United States? >> I did. And uh as you know my iconic picture was when I was trying to stand on I he invited me to go with him to the hotel when he visited Jerusalem and I was there and and so I went and stood on the side. Little did I know that the media was also going to the side. So they took the picture of him and you see the emotion that he had and I witnessed it. I was literally 5t away from him. But I stood on the side not to be in the picture because it should have been about him and of course because it's the angle today. I was in the picture with him and I have to tell you the sincerity and the I mean it just projected and when he grabbed the when when he prayed at the wall and and then talking to him afterwards I I think it's it's one of the great miracles that this guy is there won a re-election and straighten out the economy straightening out a lot of things but most of all the relationship with Israel fighting anti-semitism I it's amazing Agreed. And who would ever dare accuse you of trying to sneak into a picture, Malcolm? Come on. >> I I shy away from all it. >> Can we go back to the gas station for a second? Do you ever wonder why people freak out when the gas is 5 cents more per gallon than it was the day before, but they'll walk into the quick mart at the gas station and buy a $3 $3 bottle of water >> and afford $15 cup of coffee? >> Yeah. Did you ever think about that? I I actually I I did not, but now I will. >> Yeah. You Now now you'll challenge yourself not to walk into the quick mark the next time you fill up. Um Harry, the big question I I know you don't have an answer. Nobody has an answer, but the big question is how long is this going to go on? You know, the 12-day war always seemed to have a a a background noise of we know this is going to end soon and it felt like it was real. Here the president keeps saying it, it doesn't feel real. And also if regime change is a is is is is actually you know one of the factors in ending this thing. I think even the prime minister of Israel has agreed till at this point that real regime change is likely not going to be possible. How long is this going to go on? >> Well I don't think he said it's not possible. It's not possible if it's if it comes from the outside. You can't impose the regime change if you want it to be successful. has to come from the people and that will usually follows the fighting and eliminating the levels of leadership and the likely successors means that we have a greater chance of putting somebody in power who will not just continue with a different um uh uh the the same policies and the same uh direction as for instance the son of of would and we don't know if he's alive or how badly wounded he is and how badly hurt he was. Uh clearly he was hurt badly whether he's in a coma as some say the fact that they issue statements you know that people miraculously in Iran even if they're in a coma you can issue a statement that the um >> how do you communicate it to your director of PR? I'm just curious. >> It's a mental process and so the the so the the elements of change have to be there. Number one, they they gave out rifles to 700,000 besieged and they told them shoot to kill if people demonstrate street. So people didn't even go out for Narus and the prime minister said go out we're watching you from above and celebrate and but they were then usually this is a huge celebration and it's it's now it's today we always know when it comes because it's after Rohes um that the um but it changes during the course of the year because of the lunar calendar. So the um uh you know the people Iranian people are very resilient. I think that they are you know they're waiting to see a clear direction. There isn't though the clear leader. Palavi the son of the sha is one of the names out there but he there are a lot of people who still have anger against the sha and who don't support him. others who do um as an interle leader or as a symbol a figurehead uh we have been working and I've worked with people in Iran for 10 years trying to prepare for the day after and you see that we have meetings of the there are meetings of the dissident um people who held high positions at times in in Iran but have gone against the government recognize the evil that it is that this government is but it's it's we haven't seen the domestic ic changes there have been the beginning of defections this is what people should look for if you have mass defections from the IRGC from the and the bas you'll know that the government has collapsed there have been and maybe even in the thousands uh a lot of leadership left and certainly their families left and um took I guess the made sure that their bank accounts are in order abroad >> and the the um uh so the elements that would go into real regime change have to be present for it to take place. Again, I don't believe you can impose it from the outside, >> but everything you just said to us indicates it's not ending soon. >> Well, the war has to go on for a couple more weeks. I mean there are things objectives that have not yet been achieved and I think what happens on Car Island will be very important and especially now if the Europeans are going to go in there and if there's a confrontation um by you know their warships accompanying ships through it I think the Iranians will be reluctant to to challenge they might shoot some missiles but I don't think they want an open confrontation uh as you know the US the Gerald Ford the largest aircraft carrier had to leave to get repairs there was a fire on board not related to an attack in their in their laundry room of all places. Oh gosh. >> On this on the biggest aircraft. >> That's why I avoid doing laundry, Malcolm. You never know what may happen. >> Well, because you got a lot of sailors who've been on there for a long time >> and we have to remember it's not an easy deployment. >> Six months, right? It's a six-month deployment. >> It's they're already have been they've been out nine months already. >> Wow. Unbelievable. Like a city a city floating in the ocean. I I have visited uh actually on ops sale in ' 76. I was invited by the president to be there and my wife and I went there and we could not believe you. You can't imagine. It is a floating neighborhood. >> Like 5,000 people, right? It's like 5,000 people >> on board. A couple thousand. Yeah. I don't know if it's 5,000. >> I think it's four or five. It's amazing. Unbelievable. Are you going to have an opportunity to join us Monday night for the big celebration? >> Who would miss the big celebration to be part of a sim? You're somebody who deserves it. the family deserves it and that Claudius need all the simas we can get right now and you always I hope there'll be no sirens during it. Oh, God forbid. >> It is New Jersey. So, it's a little dangerous. >> And you always say that there's nothing like celebrating the expansion and the growth of the Jewish community. And that's one of the reasons you love going to uh simas in our community because all it means is that we're getting bigger and stronger and more devoted to the one above and families expanding. And this is the best answer for the the enemies who can't stand us. >> It's still uh then the I told people that when you know have children, it's an amazing statement. grandchildren represent continuity. Grandchildren are the ultimate nuama to those who want to wipe us out. >> And that when we see the continuity of the Jewish people when we pass on to generation to generation, when you see a young couple like yours coming together, this is for cla it's everybody. We we should all welcome it and and celebrate even we're not physically present. You can people we need some we need to to continue. We have to show that resiliency. We don't give in to the despair and and to the anti-semmites. We stand. We're going to stand against them. Use all the clout we have. We have to do it smarter than we have been doing it. We have to do it sometimes uh um people build up the anti-semites by their reaction. But but I'm all for confronting it in in clever and smarter ways and using our resources in better ways than we have till now. Spending in the nine figures, winning battles, but losing the war. We have to and we have to hold people to account and the we have a lot of elections coming up in in in um in November that are very decisive. Anybody who didn't register I think you can still but we have to register people and and and those within the listening of uh of this uh broadcast. Please make sure your families your synagogue register people. Now, we we saw how how small votes and small groups of people can dictate the future even of the greatest city in America. >> That's right. What do I need to know about Shabas and Flatbush? I got the big offroof. Uh what time do you and Mrs. Homeline take your leisurely Shabas afternoon walk? Maybe we'll bump into you at some point, Malcolm. >> By 10:00 at night, >> come on. Are you trying to avoid bumping into me over Shabamus? Well, I don't want to bump into you. I could get hurt. But but but but the uh if I don't get my Shabas sleep by quotient, my week is ruined. >> So you're saying Shabas afternoon stroll likely will not happen. >> That's not impossible. >> It's not impossible. If I knock on your door, you may come you may come out and spend some time with us. >> But just but don't knock loud. >> Just in case you're sleeping. All right. Uh looking forward to seeing you at the big sim have a wonderful shabas and we'll speak please God next week. >> Yeah have a great shabas. Be well. >> Malcolm homeline everybody. Conference of presidents of major American Jewish organizations weekly update here each Friday 7:40 a.m. Eastern time at JM in the A.M.