Weekly Update: Nachum Segal and Malcolm Hoenlein Discuss the Latest News

It's time for the weekly update. Malcolm Homeline is with us. Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish organizations. Uh Mr. Homeline, a pleasure to welcome you back to JM in the AM. >> It's always great to be with you. >> Appreciate that. So, Israel again is sending uh relief missions and emergency crews to South America. Uh this has become I mean, thank God it's become very common at this point. And um I think they said that this delegation is 80 strong. Pretty remarkable, huh? >> It is. It is 80 people. And you know it's one of a series of these things that unfortunately because of natural disasters or terrorist attacks, but in this case natural disaster requires it. But it's also a message about the change that's taking place that's very quiet. We've referenced the tier several times, but I know it doesn't get much recognition. and that is there's a a mini revolution in South America. Now, Venezuela after 17 years resuming uh diplomatic relations that many other countries, you saw the foreign minister of Israel's made, I think, three trips now to South America and was in in Guatemala and um Colombia received by the president warmly. Colombia which turned against Israel so violently and virilently. Um now again opening relations president saying great things from the day of his inauguration and that the the same thing true in Ecuador other countries where we're seeing uh the relationship I attribute some of this to Argentina and to Malay but more than that it's it's changes in governments that have been taking place the uh change in mood even in a country like Chile which has this the largest Palestinian population I think out of the Middle East or so and um was extremely hostile. The the there's a change even there but in other countries much more demonstrated and this of course is uh you know they call them the Isaac Accords. They talk about the relationships that are being built there throughout the region and this could be have great significance longer term for Israel and for you know the western hemisphere as uh Monro doctrine underscored for all of us. So it's it's um you know it's one of those stories that will never get the attention unfortunately anything negative. I I just this morning listened to one of the stations and and the public radio three stories in a row negative against Israel. >> You know what's interesting and I'm I'm glad you pointed this out. I you you've opened up my eyes to this and something I never really considered the ripple effect. Once one country or leader Millie Malay, however you want to pronounce it, once he went ahead and established this amazing relationship with Israel, it it is no coincidence you would argue that other South American countries have followed in that direction. At least >> it's not of necessity that it will happen, but it it is happening. And I think it also has to do with the US position in Venezuela may have helped though I I I don't think that was a deliberate consequence and something people considered but you know the many these South American countries had good relations with Israel. Many of them, you know, uh really object to the Iranian role which was to support Cuba and Venezuela and their oppression of the people in the other countries and hopefully it'll spread to some of the mo some of the other belovearian countries and if Cuba's influence and acting as an agent for Iran and others in destabilizing the region and building the anti-Israel rhetoric which was very strong there and Al Jazzer in Spanish etc. broadcasting to them that we get contrary information out. I don't know how widespread it is amongst the people because we don't see much polling on it but certainly amongst these governments and it's you know it's not just one or two Costa Rica also changing back to the better and they were at one time amazing when I visited there a number of years ago the president the kitchen in the presidential palace to to serve us a kosher meal and of the 12 ministers of his government who were in his government four were Jewish >> and that's and today they're they're coming back also. So, you know, I know that bad news and other things always dominate, but this is this is a one of the a more positive sign, although they're still overwhelmed by the negatives. >> There's a CNN report that Joint Chief's Chairman Kaine is trying to convince the president to end the Iran conflict with a symbolic win. I'm curious. I mean, we discussed this a little bit last week. Is there a symbolic win? Is there anything that the Iranians would willing would be willing to compromise on or would actually get to the table and establish a deal for uh where in fact the US could say even symbolically that we won and it's over? Well, they can always say and the question is will they believe it? Will people believe it? First the people in Iran, I can tell you will not believe it. They they are suffering. They they are losing faith in the west. uh they feel that you know everybody promised that uh if they go and demonstrate we will be with you including the president and they feel betrayed and I heard this again just in the last uh few days from people there the economic conditions are are worsening and this is impacting food security and even in our community uh that were reports of arrests of Jews. It is not true. There were some arrests not of Jews and there were executions in the last days uh of people for spying for Israel. >> You don't hear any world condemnation. You don't hear anything of these kangaroo trials and uh all of the people that who who are being killed and and and it's not single cases. It's dozens and dozens of people. had the the still the the failure to account to the families for the tens of thousands killed in in January and those were the spearhead people. Those are the courageous people who were willing to stand up to the besiege. So when people ask why aren't they demonstrating in the streets, there are demonstrations, but you know those who would more likely have led him were were killed in massive numbers in tens of thousands in in January and the families and all feel betrayed and and um that the deaths were in vain when the government is able to to as you said Ashley yes they're proclaiming victory now they're saying look we stood up to them we overcame them. We control the straits. And the president hinting at a statement, you know, saying that if we get a deal on the straits, then you'd give up on the nuclear demands. What will be the message to every other country? Because once they have a nuclear organ, everybody else is going to want it. And now that you have Saudi Arabia in this prioritized alliance, which again does not get the attention it deserves. We've heard the speculation about Egypt coming in. Egypt right now is not going in. uh though they I think tempted but they they know that pros pressure from Israel but they also don't trust uh the other parties in there and don't want to be boxed in in and you know the role they're playing in in the talks etc. But the um the fact that these three countries that Saudi Arabia with its wealth, Pakistan and nuclear power and Turkey with its huge army are coming together. We I I'm sure Qatar is cooperating with him, but knows that if it goes in, it would build the opposition more and expose them. That uh this is a radical change. We don't hear the consequences of it but about the ultimate consequences which could affect oil supplies etc. Um the the uh so the the changes that are taking place are really quite remarkable and the consequences of them are not being analyzed carefully at least not publicly. They focus on on the particular highlight incidents but not on what these shifts and the changing alliances and the confidence which to me is a big factor uh in the region other countries in the region it will have long-term consequences. >> One thing that doesn't seem to change is Washington, you'll tell me if I'm right or wrong. Washington continues to pressure Netanyahu um to to um wind things down in uh Gaza and in Lebanon. And then of course the 15-point road map uh comes out and Netanyahu uses the Sunday cabinet meeting in uh Jerusalem to complete completely reject it. I don't know. Does am I right or wrong that he's just he he he at least publicly is giving this impression that he's not cooperating with whatever the US is asking him? Well, um, obviously there's an election in Israel and this becomes a major issue and because Netanyahu built so much on his relationship with the president and legitimately eight times in the White House, I think an account uh that the um, you know, level of cooperation still was remarkable. of the um but you know Israel in the in 10 days did not carry out an attack and because of the agreement with the border of peace. They did I think last night the um and they they continued to do targeted meaning literally targeted people and they have continued to eliminate the terrorist leaders involved in the um attacks on October 7th and others. But what's very disturbing is that we've seen a series of incidents along the yellow line and the where Palestinians crossed over and the according to the reports the uh soldiers were told not to fire on them and they stole some engineering equipment which re immediately raised the comparisons to pre-occtober 7th when you had the constant activity along the border and why the order was given not to to to respond obviously because of the pressure from the west uh and the border peace they hope that something will come of that but they you know it's the wrong message to send and if they they really steal equipment and that has implications engineering equipment it's not uh you know these not toys so the the fact that you had more that the powers to beat did not give authorization to the soldiers that fire is obviously going to become a campaign issue. The um uh they were seen carrying out exercises of raids meaning on the side other side of the yellow line but the Palestinians the terrorists who are still there and they still have the weapons they have not been confiscated. Um there were 65 I think people crossed over into the yellow zone which you know of course raises the spectre of of the past. So there's there's a lot of concern about what is really happening in in these negotiations. Yeah. >> And what will protect Israel in the longer term. you know, the president, you you you just said something that I never really considered, even though I I'm usually the one to always point this out, and that's, you know, election day and its timing. The president of United States is not known as the most patient person. And we know that he, you know, does it it doesn't sit well with him when people don't exactly listen to what he asks or come through with um um you know, with adhering to his request. Is it possible that he is becoming or or is is being more patient now because he knows election day is around the corner in Israel? Is it possible he's behaving I'm being serious that he's behaving differently toward Natanyao because he has some sympathy that Natanyao is in the throws of a campaign? >> I think it's more because he's in the throws of a campaign and and uh and you know this has obviously implications here. You see that the war is unpopular. you'll see the statistics and whether you believe all the polls or not the trends are are clear and the uh every day but literally every day the negative stories that they dig up and many of them are not valid in terms of giving context even on some of the things that have happened in Shamron but obviously I think that there there has to be much greater activity when Mike Huckabe comes out and makes a statement using Israeli terrorists language like that. Nobody can accuse him of being soft or >> right >> hostile that I think it should be a warning to us and and the fact that that people it only reinforces everything that the DSA people say and others and the the negative uh um polling that is is increasingly an evidence. >> Well, you're working on so that there are two elections for Trump right now. I think the gas price is a big issue and you know the fact when he was asked even yesterday and they said well there's something imminent and he said you'll have to wait and see. So amongst the military I think the people in SenCom are still prepared and would act the munitions issue is a big issue. It's not made up but I think if if this is the outcome it would be very disappointing. >> You brought up what's going on in Judea and Samaria. I was debating if I should discuss it today, but since you've brought it up, I mean, you have to assume that the police and the military could put an end to this behavior if the government wanted to. Am I am I wrong about that? Am I making a wrong assumption? So, as we're dealing with assumptions, not facts, that the you're right. There is the question of they're they're now turning over responsibility from the army to the police. I think Minister Katz announced it in amongst his many many announcements um and pro pronouncements I should say which not always carefully and wisely chosen that the um uh they could obviously move in but remember that Bengabir is in charge of the police >> and ideologically is aligned uh with this >> and the you know and we also have to get the real story the real account that one house was supposedly taken over and others, but because one of the homes involved is owned by an American, it has aroused a lot of sympathy. He's getting interviews now and he has security cameras around the house. So, he watches what's happening and then gives the reports and we're not hearing reports from the other side explaining why this is being allowed and the government obviously has condemned it, but the people in the government. Uh but the question is why they just can't remove them, arrest them, take them out. Um and this is certainly for images and at a time like this and again I think that the domestic political situation plays a role in decisions that are taken today but this rises above that this is jeopardizing it's it's I think it's a national security issue in terms of inter their international relations their security and will only arouse further opposition. It's America's one and only Jewish moments in the morning radio program heard on listener sponsored digital radio around the world the web.com on these network and of course on the beloved NSN app Malcolm homeline with us we call this the weekly update on this ro kesh el so on the subject of uh pronouncements as you said uh by defense minister Kath he of course has pushed back on the whole uh southern Lebanon issue he says that the Israel will maintain its presence in southern Lebanon and um he said he expects all parties to act consistently with the framework they agreed to and noted that Israel has stated has no territorial ambitions there. That is that is the um in other words that's what the United States was saying but he's pushing back and says they're not leaving. I assume that this is one of those situations where the homeline doctrine uh which we've established here on this program uh would indicate you would have preferred if he didn't say this out loud. >> I think well he's already walked it back and you know he has a tendency to make these to make statements sometimes mombastic and and and again it may be a translation issues. There may be, you know, some PR guy advising him to to do this or they think that politically it will help in advance of the elections by taking a strong stand. His his position in the liquid lineup is already solidified. The LUD numbers went down again supposedly the in the last polls that yesterday, day before. Uh but again, the polls are notoriously inaccurate when it comes to Israel, which is infamously said uh the people tell the truth to the pollsters and then lie at the polls that you can't rely on them and and that the outcome is often different. but he's already walked back um about the permanence and and that we're not going to withdraw and it it could be a translation issue that they're saying they're not going to pull out irresponsibly which would be a mistake that the the areas under control um and they're complaining the Lebanese and others are complaining that they've knocked down more houses. they take an additional area within the the security zones that they're holding which are critical and that Israel can't just move it up until Hezbollah is disarmed and they are not disarmed and that they you see that the the tunnels that are still being discovered still being a huge uh explosions of these the the tunnels which are full with weapons and other things and operational headquarters in them. So there's a lot to be done yet. And the question is, can the border peace? We don't see the uh troops lining up in Hamas in against Hamas and Gaza. We don't see them lined up. The government of Lebanon looks like it's making uh good faith efforts, but the the LAF, the army is not capable of really challenging at this point. Uh the arm shipments is supposed to be cut off and but Iran continues to try to send them stuff. they've confiscated so much but the infrastructure remains and even in the LAF half are Shiite and and which means that they will many of them will feel sympathy forah or some of them could even be members ofah so the you know everything is complicated I believe still that Lebanon and Israel can do a lot together can reach accords can create things like the good fence that existed and I went through that you could you know people were going back and forth into Israel for medical treatment to buy stuff. Uh and I think that it is possible. We don't have real issues. There's no territorial design which is why the statement was of concern is because Israel doesn't want territory from Lebanon. They want assurityity that the people in the north will move back and that the will be reigned in and controlled once and for all and disarmed which is something any country should be entitled to. And the, you know, we also saw very strange things in Syria this week, you know, with uh the with Shahara's uh statements both talking about Israel for and against and talking about wanting peace and rejecting obviously Colombia's uh recognition of uh of Israeli sovereignty in the Golan occasioned responses on that, but otherwise it's been relatively uh quiet and also you see that the the distortions. There have been tremendous crackdowns against the Kurds. Um the the Islamization process continues with the women borcas, the the slowly the creeping Islamization in Damascus and other places and Turkeykey's role where they control today 5% of the territory. Everybody talks about Israel's presence which is not even a small fraction of that. It's less than much less than 1% and yet they occupy 5% fully and have a greater sphere of influence in in Syria and the as you saw this week also the United States is still taking is going in there to take out the dust meaning the um the enriched uranium from when Israel bombed the nuclear reactor in Syria in 2007 >> that United States is going in because it could be used in a dirty bomb and I mean, that's a positive sign and that they're taking it. >> I thought that story was related to Iran, but it was the uh Syrian dust that they were that they were collecting. And uh the Syrians also um what did they do? They convicted Assad of criminal war crimes or they uh >> Yeah, they sent him. They gave him I think in absentia gave him a death penalty, right? >> And so he's the walking dead as it is. And while we're uh talking about taking out enriched uranium, we are seeing that the the um Iranians are acknowledging that they have much more under the rubble and and inside the the mountain. They don't tell the tr complete truth about pickaxe mountain um uh what was transferred there but there are a lot of reports coming out about what they retain and how I don't understand how an agreement could be reached unless you really remove the enriched uranium and there was talk whether Israeli soldiers would be involved that they don't want to put American troops on the ground would maybe Gulf troops be used I don't see that as uh as likely uh I think it has to be destroyed and putting troops on troops on the ground will not be popular here at home. But I think Israel is prepared and even if they had to go it alone initially. I think now that is much more complicated again because of the US position and and trying to hold off any kind of military confrontations. Whether president is doing this until October, it's very hard to envisage how you can postpone everything until October. And you the reports of the US troops, you know, really reaching the end of the rope for them after two years of after, you know, being deployed for a year and some for even longer that it's uh it's creating very bad feedback and the families are complaining and the soldiers and the sailors in particular are complaining then some of the supply routes for food has been have been make become more complicated. So there are many factors that you have to weigh when people look and ask why why isn't X happening because there are many things around X that may mitigate against it. >> Do you find it strange that so much is being made of this munition shortage in the United States? I mean you know in my lifetime there've been a lot of conflicts and a lot of military uh presence activities around the world that the United States military was in charge of. You never heard as that I can recall you never heard of a munition shortage. And here it's like one of the big headlines that everyone continues to talk about. Do you think it's being done because again as you just described, you know, they they they'd like to postpone these decisions and think of any reason they can to postpone them or is there really a shortage out there? >> Well, both could be true. Uh I think that it is true that there is a munition shortage. We knew it all along. We only have a couple factories producing stuff. The president has ordered it be ramped up, but we gave a lot of stuff to the Ukraine. We gave a lot of the it's the interceptor missiles that are really the important part because they want to protect the troops and uh Israel also has shortages in in some of these areas but they don't talk about it because that only will encourage the enemy to strike and to to continue to sustain believing that you can degrade Israel's capabilities to to respond. So the the there is amunition shortage but the um you know the options are are the questions. The president is letting Iran play it out at the you know Iran is suffering economically greatly. They might deny it. They can but I can tell you speaking to people in Iran in the last days and hearing about the the situation firsthand. Uh it is it is impacting people and there are food shortages. uh the the and that's only going to get worse as it goes on. So they you know maybe they feel that they're degrading Iran's ability and maybe encouraging a domestic uprising that as the people the circumstances uh get worse that people will take the steps necessary to to confront on the streets the basian others as I said that the the the lead troops in the action like that were likely killed in uh in January. They're the ones who took to the streets and confronted the basie in the IRGC and tens of thousands of them were killed and people are hesitant today to take action because they don't have confidence that he'll have any residents in the west. So the the um you know the president is looking at an election and he obviously cares about bringing down the price of of gas because the other side has made that a big issue and uh people feel that even even though we're still a dollar less than when Biden went out. But it's it's when you're paying $3 and all of a sudden it goes to four even if it had been five before you remember that you're paying more than what you did. And I think those are all contributing factors. I don't think it's one issue. And I think that there's a lot of dissent in the administration from taking stronger action. There are those who who want it. I think a lot of people in hindsight will argue that it that the United States should not have stopped a couple of weeks ago and that the hiatus is giving Iran a chance to reorganize. I don't think they can rebuild all the facilities, etc. But, you know, they're able to declare a victory. They're saying, "Look, we lasted. We survived. We're we're in control of the straits of her moves. That for them has become the issue, even if it's it's only core it's a core issue, not a sole issue. >> Right. Were you surprised at the skepticism that the CIA spoke of regarding this whole Anara uh episode in July last month when uh they decided not to use the new Air Force One and and of course this week we heard about the you know how the president was snuck onto a different plane and all that stuff. All the the report came or I should say the intelligence was from Israel that his life was being threatened by Iran and the CIA publicly came out with statements um uh uh being skeptical about that Israeli intelligence. What was your reaction to all that? >> So uh obviously there are people who have an interest in in leaking uh these stories. Uh, Israel always shares intelligence with the United States and warns them about dangers. There was supposedly somebody there with a a shoulder fired rocket. Um, what what obviously became the big story afterwards and now is that if if the plane was exposed to some threat, danger, then why didn't he take everybody off the plane? Was he ready to give up the the media for it? probably a good idea, but uh >> that was one of the conditions of him getting off the plane. >> He got off in a catering truck. I assume his code catering and the um uh you know, it was a precautionary measure. There obviously was some concern and the the new Air Force One doesn't have some of the deflecting capabilities yet, the defensive capabilities that um I think the older plane had. So they they did it and flew him to England and then switched. Um but of course the reaction in some of the press was um were you ready to make us sacrifices in this? They um uh so it's just another notch in the belt of uh these bad stories that get so much coverage. >> Right. I hear that. Uh you've had a week now because it happened while we were on the air last Friday. You've had a week to think about the new mutual defense pack, the Mecca joint defense agreement. You might remember that Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Pakistan signed it. Now that it's a week later and you've had time to digest it, what do you think? >> I'm nauseous that um I did speak about it briefly last week because I think it set off such red flags. This is uh potentially a big challenge. It's a challenge to others, not just to to Israel. Uh we'll see whether Qatar, which has been flirting with going in, but certainly is involved uh and is part of that consortium that will could be a gamecher long term. Look, the three countries don't trust each other and don't like each other. You already saw that Saudi Arabia came under attack by the Hooies. and there was no joint response to it. And I don't think it's likely, maybe if there's an invasion, uh, but people are portraying it as being anti-Israel. I I don't think that that is the primary motivation. I think for Turkey, that's a big issue. uh Pakistani spokespeople this week made pretty harsh anti-Israel comments and threats but uh others leaders in Pakistan um not are taking a different position. I think it's anti-China. I think it goes against the road belt even though some of them have close ties to China. I think it is uh with America's exclusion um you know a statement in that regard as well. I don't think practically it works well. I don't see Turkey flying troops over to uh to defend Saudi Arabia and I don't think Saudi Arabia wants Turkish troops because they don't trust them and they know Erdogan's aspirations. I've discussed it with Saudi leaders years ago already and uh I think that um the the danger you remember people forget I Khan who was in charge of the nuclear program in Pakistan who then distributed the information. If you remember the the scandals because of the proliferation of the tech the knowhow etc and the fear that you know you'd have bombs everywhere but people forget Saudi Arabia paid for the Pakistani bomb so they could get him anytime uh I think from uh from they didn't want it on Saudi land and be the first to to get a nuclear weapon amongst these countries and they know that it's going to set off an arms race UAE is not going to wait 10 minutes if they if once Saudi Arabia is nuclear um and nor will others and and you will have the race for for uh you know to get nuclear capacity spreading throughout the region. Certainly Turkey is wants it and would would want it. So the you know the ramifications of this are are so great. I am surprised um Egypt has expressed the reasons why as I mentioned before why it's not in but the for Turkey this is the aspiration is to build a a Sunni radical axis from Turkey now they neutral neutralize the PKK it's Syria the to Egypt to Qatar Sudan maybe Libya elsewhere where they're operative and and trying to establish bases including including in the Red Sea area where Turkeykey's building a base and then you'd have Iran rebuilding its alliances withah remaining with Hamas remaining which is why you have to have a death blow for them and and incapacitate them completely that we don't have the the Shia radical alliance but the Houthies you see continue to fire continue to shoot at Saudi Arabia and other uh ships in days of folded that would have been the reason for an all-out war. You sink somebody else's ship in international waters, you you are really should be subject to retaliation and the international community doesn't treat it with disease. I mean, how much would it take? There is increasing fighting by the way between the Houthis and the Yemeni government which is westernbacked uh but generally incompetent and the you know you're talking about a peanut country the poorest in the world but which with limited capacity we should have been able to stop the Houthies a long time ago and we haven't and then then you have you know the threat of bamb which again raises the prices and and certainly the insurance costs and other costs which people don't realize we're paying for when every item we buy that gets shipped through there because it's expensive. >> Finally, the welcome to 2026 moment. Doesn't this say it all, Malcolm? This headline reads as follows. British school principles spending more time on security than education. >> Well, it it does say a lot, but it also says a lot of what Britain has failed to do. that Britain hasn't taken the necessary steps. Look what's happening in the medical field in in Britain as well as in other places and the um uh you know the the rising anti-mitism and if people can't trust to go to a hospital what will happen? I mean people will die because of it because they they're afraid to go in for treatment because the doctors and nurses and others um and the the um you know the fact that schools uh are required to spend so much time on security. Um, you know, you have a large immigrant population and some of them radicalized, some potentially radicalized, and the the the failure to take the pro prophylactic steps is leading them. But it's true in Germany. It's true in France. It's true virtually everybody. Look at how many incidents for people if they're heard speaking Hebrew as tourists in various countries, especially in France, but elsewhere as well. And how many of those incidents don't even get reported, but if somebody happens to have a camera and gets a picture at the Manila airport or in other airports where you've had, you know, physical physical encounters between people with it, but the school systems, I would say in the United States, also need attention and the unions are not being supportive in in most of the places, not of Jewish teachers and not of Jewish students. And that's why they are fleeing. And the I credit again the Zuker schools as I've done before which is taking children out of the public schools because they're not safe and to put them in a Jewish environment and uh the credit to the to the donor who's who undertook to do this and remarkable story I'm sure we written fully soon the uh the other efforts to to try and take kids out you know in New York you don't see it as much because there aren't that many Jewish kids in public schools but think about the rest of the country and you realize that it's happening here too and teachers are not being punished and and perpetrators in the schools are not being punished in accord with the what they the threats that they pose and the dangers that they pose. >> And finally, don't let the school year start without every parent in your school being registered to vote. Correct, Malcolm? every parent, every student over 18, everybody must, if you have any any doubts, look at the election that when they're decided by less than 2,000 votes, when you see Mom Dani's results, you see how they are organizing, how they are have pulling out campaigns to get people out to the polls and they're talking about it and you see this his community engagement uh office, which you can be sure is being u many can see will be used as a as a organizing tool for him. The the the fact that even in a black community there are start to be people who who like a smile or you know that some of the ideas resonate with them but they're not realistic and they're not going to be implemented and if those who lived under socialism have to speak out and tell people what it really means. It's not socialism, it's communism. And it's it's much more radical than the the whole ideology. And the the um you know the manifestations are going to be very serious because what happens here is being is happening around in various parts of the country. the election in Michigan of also a radical and and look at the views and they openly espouse views that if people whispered it in the past it would have been a dangerous thing but against Israel and against Jews and we see they won a number of elections around the country and you're going to end up with a block of DSA within Congress and they are driving the agenda. They're driving even Schumer and others to to some of their positions because they're afraid that Schumer jumped out and endorsed Elsadi in Michigan right after the election, not before but after the election is very disturbing when a guy has the views that he has and if uh you know it's setting priorities and it's telling us what where the political winds are blowing, especially in the Democratic party, but also we see some in in the um in some in the Republican party And we've seen now the emergence of these Catholic hostile groups, anti-Israel groups, um Candy Sens and others pushing it, but it's it's not got they're not representing even a significant percentage yet, but it's growing and it's a cancer. It metastasizes and it continues if you don't put a stop and we can stop them at the ballot box. If everybody listens and and I know you've talked about it, but everybody make a commitment today. reach out in your shel. Ask everybody to organize. The Flapos Jewish Coalition is organizing and we'll be have people out and we need money to help pay for it to pay for workers and you know minimum wage to go and be able to to um do vote reach out to every synagogue, provide the materials, help set up tables. This takes uh finances and money and I hope people will rise to it and if they contact you we can tell them how they can help the the FJCC which is taking a lead in this uh but other communities every community has to do it. It's not should has to. If you care about it, you you want to see uh the dark side of this of the implications, just listen to what we've talked about today, which can be reversed if we change if the Congress goes radical and and these guys take over chairmanships and other key positions. Wait and see what kind of hearings we're going to have. >> Very true. A real wakeup call. Uh thank you, Malcolm. Have a wonderful Shabas and uh please God, we'll speak again next week. Great job everybody.