Weekly Update: Nachum Segal and Malcolm Hoenlein Discuss the Latest News

Malcolm Homeline is with us. We call it the weekly update conference of presidents of major American Jewish organizations. Mr. Homeline, welcome back to JM and the AM. >> Good morning. It's good to be with you. Looking forward to Shabas. >> Yeah, me too. Final Shabas of the year. Isn't it amazing how uh how Israel and really to an extent our community depending on how much you want to um associate um Israel with the Jewish community because many try to remind everybody that they are intertwined and others go out of their way to remind everybody that they are completely separate. I have a feeling I know where you fall on that um analysis. Isn't it amazing how this topic continues to be the central focal point of so much that's happening in the media and so many of the elections that are going on around this country. >> It is true. I mean we do put ourselves in the center of things also but um it to a degree we exaggerate it because we think the world looks at it the way we do and that we may focus on a visit in Burough Park to a bookstore which is really little significance uh and if people would tell the truth about what happened and there was a handful of people were there people in Burough Park seemed to have known about it did not come out and yet you have people go on the radio and start attacking the community and um commentators and things sometimes seemingly in defense or an offense about the fact that he was uh allowed to come if uh I think the story is is a little different and the community did not offer red carpet welcome to him. Whatever happened in the store is something they have to explain. But the the um you know we have to think about how the world at large looks at this at a time where this guy who has said and and without any remorse about it without any backtracking continue to associate with people who are hostile. Uh so I I would urge even those who who are speaking thinking they're defending or the principles and needs of the community by coming out and attack because they know that gets media coverage uh [clears throat] should be very careful with what they say. I have to assume that in all your decades of service in leadership roles in the Jewish world, you've had to meet with elected officials who I don't know had similar points of view to the mayor of the city of New York or for those times were as criticized as he is by now by the Jewish community. I have to assume that you were put in a situation like that and felt I wouldn't I wouldn't use the word cordial but felt it was of utmost importance to at least sit down and not ignore the person but sit down and discuss things with the person but never to it was always because there was an issue or something of substance. I mean I met with all the world leaders some of the worst dictators in the world as you know I traveled to Syria Assad I met with all the Arab leaders and Muslim leaders Putin many times others Erdogan many times because there were specific needs of the Jewish community one we didn't go to the press with it and it was only reported it was because the other side did so second I think we were more careful in how we presented these things to the world and uh wherever possible did not present it to the world and I think that gains you a lot of credibility and especially when we're fighting the kind of insidious battle that we are fighting today and so much more will come out now telling and explaining how uh widespread and how funded and how really um serious the challenge that we're facing and because sometimes it's not dayto-day you don't see as many confrontations let's say on campus campus, but it doesn't mean it just gone underground. It's just more more quiet and they have new targets. >> It's not because the money is not flowing. And you see what I talked about here for so many years about the infiltration of the political process and how they [clears throat] were organizing and now it all comes out about how systemic the approaches training young people to run for local offices and how people ask me how is it all of a sudden we see all these people with with Arabic and Muslim names emerging in school boards and city councils and etc etc. It's it's not haphazard and it's a reminder again that people should go out and vote. People who aren't registered do so. That this election is critical even though it's you know there's no presidential uh top of the ticket it doesn't make it less significant that people uh go out. But I'm telling you that the uh we will talk during this year much more about the Chinese involvement the in the the way that 5133 organizations charable organizations were infiltrated and used with tax exempt status with other benefits and were were worse than the Holyland Foundation case which some of your listeners may remember we discussed for years and where there were real prosecutions. We need real prosecutions and I think the justice department is intent on it. I think the u many members of Congress are but they don't know and they don't and they have to be educated and we should support those groups that are really doing the real work and not just doing uh public uh displays which whose value I think has to be really assessed much more than we have. Yesterday, there were videos and uh still photos all over the place of leaders meeting in the White House with the president of the United States and the vice president. Uh aside from the images that we've seen, have you been informed of any content that went on in those conversations? Are you aware of what went on in terms of the agenda of those discussions? >> I mean, I've heard many reports and I think um the principles haven't really spoken about it yet. They they will and I'm sure we will learn more. there were a lot of people who were not in the room but in the adjacent rooms. Uh and um you know I I I know that the subject of uh prison reform and and the rights of prisoners was was raised. Uh I think that there was some agreement not to go into the international issues too much but we don't know what's what was done in private and um especially the issue of the use of the draft. Some said it was some say it wasn't. So we'll have to wait. It's still early. People were coming back uh late yesterday and uh the fleet of private planes uh you know had a land and some were delayed in fact in getting there. But uh I think there were five private planes or something that uh took them. >> Remember the old days when people would drive to Washington DC? >> No. And uh [laughter] George took took the the horse and buggy. So we don't remember anything. So >> well at least a horse. I don't know if you >> I don't I don't and I don't fault them for that. I think that >> Yeah, I'm not faulting them for that either. I'm just I'm trying to point I'm trying to point out how different times are. >> Yeah. You know, there's a lot more there's a lot more money around in our community these days compared to the old days. >> There's a lot certainly true and more stuck and more also being done. Not enough. There's still people with huge fortunes who don't give proportionate to their wealth. And we're going we need it more and more. I think that the fact that the schools in Lakewood didn't open up until all the girls were given places is really a very positive and important step and we need it for boys too and it is happening at some areas. Um you know that kids are are left out and they they get lost then in the process. So I think this was really a very positive and commendable step on their part and um you know and I think that the the the people who went the rabbim rebas you know are responsible people who who understand and uh I I'm quite confident that they they didn't go in there to make a political arguments they talked about >> Well, you just you just alluded to the fact that they may have asked the president of United States to intervene in a national issue in Israel. So they >> no I said I said that people had raised it. I didn't say that they actually discussed it and it may be that they agreed not to discuss those issues and obviously amongst them there are varied opinions when it comes to Israel. I mean obviously Satar's position is much more extreme than many of the others who were there and he the one of the Satbas had private time with the president for about 10 minutes after the meeting. Uh so I we don't know I wasn't there. I don't know what happened. I think you should try to get um Kushner on the show and he will be able to tell you what what really happened. >> I don't think he would say much. >> That might well be. But uh >> by the way, I got a question. >> But I'm going to say less because I don't know. >> I got to question that strategy. So you think it's a good idea to keep hundreds of kids out of school for whatever number of days it's necessary in order to make sure that every kid has a place in a school? I think we have to show that we have responsibility to all the kids and that the the institutions um [clears throat] you can't just take the best and the brightest or those who can afford that we have a universal responsibility to all the children and too many and I've seen them and I've heard from them about when they were locked out of schools because their family couldn't afford it and sometimes single mothers or you know I mean divorced or other circumstances And as a community, we have to take them all into account and the pressure is often >> [clears throat] >> um the way to do it. I mean otherwise it's it's too easy to bypass them. The most vulnerable in our community in in a lot of respects and you know our community does so much so much in every regard. Uh but you know there there are invisible people in our community too. >> Understood. All right. All right, the tit for tat with the United States and Iran and of course those perceived to be um perceived to be allies of the United States continues this week with the US forces striking the RAGC, the uh Iranians going after um northern Iraq, the UAE, Bahrain, and others. Um and then the United States said, "Okay, at this point they're not going to retaliate." Why do you think things escalated in that way this week when things in that way were quieter recently? which is that way >> in terms in terms of this this round of military activity >> and why they attacked and and the response. Yeah. Well, for one, Iran really never stopped. They were doing other things in the in the region. We know that there was a buildup on Car Island and the um uh and the US saw some of what they were doing including moving equipment and took action against that because that was a violation of the ceasefire quote ceasefire which is not really a ceasefire and um uh [clears throat] you know the removing of the mines and other things and then Iran were still rejecting all of this and and uh wanting to block the access but I think the retaliation is the is the significant part and probably what you're asking that they hit again uh eight missiles at Jordan yesterday rockets many rockets at Kuwait uh UAE again Qatar and you would think that given the reactions till now that they they would target other things they're targeting US interests they're not hitting you know vital installations in those countries uh of a general nature they're targeting US infrastructure because they know that this brings home a message and if the death and or injury toll of Americans goes up, it builds pressure in the United States against our continued involvement. We are strangling them economically, their currency now, and I think I've been tracing it with you for more than 10 years. Yeah. >> Uh it went up a 100,000 to the dollar yet this week. They're now 2.2 million to the dollar. the inflation rate is through the roof and uh the domestic pressure is building up. There are shortages. There are food and and and vital uh issues but people can't afford you know gas and and in an oil producing comp country but without refining capacity and the u flow of money the flow of oil from Iran literally hit zero. So this is tremendous pressure. There may be some illegal shipments going over land, but the the offloading into the Persian Gulf has reached zero and the United States has and our allies eyes on all of it. They have fired on ships and this is a response to the uh continued attacks against some of the shipping in in the straits and the area around the straits. So, how they clearly don't care about alienating further alienating the countries in the region. I guess they figure they're all in anyway and that the the um it is not full-fledged and that's why they the um some of the officials including the vice president others have said well it's not a war. It's not a war in the classical sense that you have troops confronting every day but you have confrontations and incidents every day. It is a war by a more general definition and and if we allow Iran to walk away from this at this point and there was talk you know that maybe they should declare a war over etc that's an impossibility and it will been a complete abandonment of the people who have to know that we continue to fight because they continue to fight >> and face circumstances. >> It's happened before. >> That's true. Um, what about the president's public statements? I don't know. I mean, not if we'd call it a public statement. It certainly alluded to the fact that he won't respond to this latest round of retaliation by Iran. >> Well, they have responded. Um, and I think that the president, you know, as everybody says, he plays chess. Everybody else plays checkers. He's fames a lot. Uh, you you don't know what he really means when he says some of this stuff. Is it to to bait the Iranians? Is it to, you know, show the world that we are not the ones who are who are driving this conflict, that uh Iran continues in in an aggressive mode and that the um the IAEA this week, which got very little coverage, uh demanded that they be given access, that they believe that the enriched uranium is there and that if they don't get access soon that the situation gets worse, that they can hide it, that they can a lot of it is underground, a lot of you know, is going to be difficult to assess, but if the International Atomic Energy Agency isn't given access, they said it will create a much more dangerous situation. So, they were putting the pressure on for it and Iran just ignores it. So, it's and and there are internal differences, very big ones, amongst those who are running Iran today. The communications between them is limited. It is remarkable how they've held together as they have given all the circumstances the removal of top three layers of of leadership uh that they but I I know from people there that there are differences and sometimes I believe that they set it up to try and paint certain leaders as more moderate so that the west will have someone with whom to as an interlocator even though that in fact the differences are more more limited than than they may appear. But the IRGC people are clearly in control and the more extreme people have been appointed and are being appointed to positions. So when there's no reason to believe that right now you're going to have the big softening nor when people including the president again called for people to go to the streets after what happened last December and now he used he used a number of 100,000 killed uh which is double what we've been would have been used till now >> and then but at the same time as we're hearing about the IRGC taking over control of the country uh there are reports that their personnel wants to leave that Iranian officials are trying to leave the country like we don't know what to believe if the Iranian leadership actually thinks this is worth, you know, sticking around and fighting till the end, which has really been the attitude we've heard over the last few months, or if the other reports are true, that really all of them want to be out of the country as soon as possible. >> But if you remember, we talked about this for years that Iranians officials, thousands of them had uh children all over the world and including in the United States. I think there were 1300 children of of Iranian leaders studying in universities here that they were preparing all the time. Some of them even had houses or their children had houses so that they would have a place to come to in in in the event that the government fell and uh that that pattern continues where the they they safeguard themselves. I think that what I always look for is to see if the leaders, the families of leaders are leaving the country. >> Uh that tells you which is and they go to Kuwait, they go to to the UAE, they go to other places. Um and and many, you know, have sent their their children and families out. They they um they don't trust each other anymore, by the way, in in the process. They know there's infiltration and they they are very uh suspicious. Also, you have those who come. That's why I mentioned the IRGC because you have people who came from different uh elements of the former government and the uh and they certainly were working on different tracks in the past and and today as well. the Supreme Leaders, the son of the former Supreme Leader, it's still not sure that he's alive or that he's how badly hurt he is, but he's giving there are more statements coming out from him and um uh we'll see if he actually does an interview at some point or does something that would indicate, you know, where he's alive. They say that he doesn't reveal it because then they would be traced even by the curtains in the room or something and they would find out where he is and kill him. I think I think that's a pretty weak excuse. >> Yeah, but it might be accurate based on some of recent events. America's one and only Jewish moments in the morning radio program heard and listener sponsored digital radio round the web.com and the network and of course on the beloved NSN app. By the way, on the IAEA in addition to Iran, did they say anything about Syria? So yes, um now they've given access to the to the Syrian site um and Syria is allowing them to the whatever is left of the enriched uranium and stuff to be removed. Uh the facility itself is not operational. Uh but there yes there is more openness and um you know it's a serious matter still about what is happening in Iran. Turkey uh is continuing to uh try to impose not only its will but even to take physically control of territory. They now occupy more than 5% of Syria and the confrontation that emerged because of the what was going on at the air force base that Israel hit it after telling the Syrians that they were coming. They did not tell the Turks, but Turkey had removed already the delegations, the military delegations who were there because they want to put in air defense systems which would affect tra air traffic over all of Israel and give them eyes on but also be able to monitor regular traffic air traffic into country which is not something Israel can accept. they can't accept Turkey establishing itself in the country that borders Israel when Turkeykey's behavior has been so uh extreme and and hostile and the the um unfortunately there are people including some one who works for the United States who seems to uh put the Turkish agenda front and center and uh the the Kurds, the Drews, the other minorities are very much endangered because of it and we have to stand by them and support them uh in this situation there. The Kurds, as you know, were disarmed by Turkey. That is not the Kurds in Kurdistan who are disappointed what happened with the Kurds in Syria, but they had no choice at that point, I think. And the um but the Drews did not disarm even though they were put under pressure to do so. And I think you might have had more massacres had they in fact succumbed to the pressure, including from some Americans. >> Wow. Uh, all right. Uh, let's talk a little bit about October 27th. That's election day. Do you think that it's possible? We're now we're now in September already. Is it possible that it's such an important item on the Netanyahu campaign agenda to remain as tough as possible and to keep the US as tough as possible on Iran? Is it possible, do you think, that after October 27th, Trump decides, you know what, it's time to go to negotiating table. it's time to really end this thing in some way, shape, or form. Do you think election day, which we've always pointed out is a very important demarcation. Do you think that might alter post election day might alter US policy on all this? >> Well, I think the outcome of [clears throat] the elections uh could have an impact whatever the tensions, the relationship between the two president uh Trump and and the prime minister uh is remarkable. was reflected in the fact that he had what eight official visits. It's more than on than any other world leader. Uh and uh you heard the president saying that if it weren't for him there would be no Israel. Uh and statements like that. Do I think there could be a quote reassessment or some change depending upon the outcome? Yes. But I think the fundamentals remain the same. What emerged this year with the cooperation between Israeli military and US military in the region is a fact. Sentcom is looking to establish itself more. They're talking about moving bases to to Israel uh from the region and the um and if Israel is successful, let's say in Lebanon, which is a possibility, and we see the Lebanese army wants the IDF to remain in southern Lebanon because they fear his return uh more andah is is moving towards guerrilla warfare, by the way. Uh but I I still believe that there's prospects in Lebanon and maybe neutralizing Syria or at least keeping you know the extremist elements led by Turkey contained more. Um so the president looks at the region and says what resources do we apply there? We still have a huge military presence. Uh the replacement of one air force air carrier with the um with another aircraft carrier with another. Um and we're stretching in some cases um some of our resources um the manpower there have been deployed for a long time and the the reports on munitions which I think are real about the shortage of munition worldwide but especially when uh the US and and Israel both I think are looking for ways to to ramp up production and to have an ample amount. They if they hit a 100 targets yesterday, the United States hit 100 Iranian targets, you know, that's a big investment in terms of of personnel and and costs and as well as munitions. So the president, I think, is going to look at the election results, wait to see till a government is formed. I think it will take quite some time. As you notice, the numbers vary a little bit. you has coalescence of parties all of which affect you know the likelihood of who can form a a coalition I don't think it's going to be easy I don't think it's going to be an easy thing and people should watch it the personalities and who's emerging as I see Winter you know seems to play more of a role but but people see that he's a natural candidate to join let's say liquid left coalition and Netanyahu knows that the left of the center is not going to be supporters for him needs to mobilize the center and center right, >> right? >> And and policies will will reflect that. >> But in the seagull analysis, the all Trump I would think all Trump would care about is BB winning the election or, you know, or giving him the greatest opportunity to win. That's why I say, you know, maintain the policy on Iran until October the 27th. Once that election day is over, no matter what BB has done, it's irrelevant to Trump how that government gets formed. And what is it? it's going to switch between one seat or another seat like that. We're not talking about the the main thing from the I would hope that the main thing from the American standpoint is that the election in Israel take place and then maybe they'll feel more independence to go ahead and act differently with Iran. I don't think they need to wait or he needs to wait, meaning Trump, until there's an actual formation of an Israeli government. >> Well, I I I don't think it's going that that's correct. I think that he the election outcome will be very important and the um you know people say Netanyahu became an issue in of himself separate apart from Israel and that people saying well we're not against Israel we're against Netanyahu if you remove Netanyahu by and large the haters are going to remain most of the negative guys are going to be remain no matter who's sitting there as long as they don't you know come up with policies that literally suicide policies that satisfy you know the attackers against Israel they're not They're attacking Israel's right to exist. It's not because of which party. Second, uh we hope that it'll emerge a situation where the people of Israel can be unified behind a government. They need unity. We need to still rebuild after October 7th. There still will be inquiries and commissions I think on it that could be very divisive. The and you already see hints of that. Um so the president um I think has to be concerned about the outcome and what kind of government emerges. Will they be in [clears throat] his words or his view or the view of the negotiators more cooperative or uh you know but I think the people of Israel want tough lines right now. They paid a price for um what they see as compromising or or weak positions. And on the other hand, we need support of the world and and especially the United States and sustain strong relationships here. But they have to vote their interests. They're not going to vote based upon what world leaders stay. They're going to vote upon how they view the circumstances. The economic factors will be very big in Israeli election and the and the prospects. It is true that people are tired after 18 years. You know, people want a change in leadership, but I don't think that there's anybody yet other than Netanyahu around whom significant numbers really rally in in a deep way. That could happen. the election real things don't take place yet and with the Khagim coming it's um it's sort of suspended but um but the the issues and will come into much more stark relief as we get closer. What did you tell us? The prime minister is coming to you called the dre night at the great. >> Yes. No. Co the prime minister. No, he doesn't come anymore because it becomes too much of an imposition. >> Oh, so who the president? You said >> the president former president the president himself does not because he doesn't want to make his his guards and others be mal yantive. So they they he walks across the street to shul. um the um prime minister used to come and call nadrid but as I said it becomes difficult and we can't have magnetometers and all of those things and with nissal and with our vice dying we have a huge crowd uh coming and those who want to buy tickets will be rushed out of there you better do it soon and and the commission goes to [laughter] >> so um yeah so the the he doesn't come President Rivlin does come and others come, me ministers come. >> What would it cost to have you mention my name during the speech? >> Would that be >> We can work it out. >> That would be a large contribution to some campaign. Um I mean some uh organization, not god forbid campaign. So here are some of the issues that have become uh campaign issues. Ben's Gaza immigration plan, which uh [laughter] a significant number of people are seem to be attracted to, by the way. Uh who discovered the Altoena uh the Alena remains. You saw that that they're fighting about who actually um takes credit for that after 78 years. >> That's just it seems it seems to be the curse of the Atalena. There's nothing about it. >> Good point. >> Agreed upon and it reignited, you know, for remember you have a generation >> That's right. that didn't grow up with it and now all of a sudden especially coming for an election and being told what happened it does have some resonance I'm sure and yeah it it but it's I I doubt that you know 1% of Americans American Jews knew what the Alterena was. >> Oh for sure. Also, an Arab party is actually uh going to have its first Jewish candidate in this election. That that >> and I don't think it'll have [clears throat] a profound impact. It's true. It's it's groundbreaking. It's it sends a message, but I I don't think it it will shift the needle much uh in any regard. >> Um and the other two things which I think are, you know, most important. Apparently, Arya Derry was uh was the leader of a of a group that was asked to topple Netanyahu. All right. I don't know if that's a surprise or not, but he also made a statement this week in a radio interview that the army doesn't actually want Karedi soldiers. And I I think you've pointed this out and and you've said this, you've said that, but I think he meant it differently. I think he really meant it. I think in when you say it I think you do agree that there is a role for karedi participants in the army process whatever that might be that they could find you know different roles and jobs etc maybe not in combat and obviously not with the whole women's issue etc but there are places where uh it would be fitting it would be appropriate for karina to be in the army so dairy of course I mean I shouldn't say of course but went ahead this week and made that a campaign issue but the number one and I must get your reaction to this they released the prime minister's minuteby-minute October 7th timeline and I'm wondering after you read it and saw you know the way things went down on October 6th and 7th I'm wondering if you feel any differently about culpability when it comes to the prime minister >> I think it raised a lot of questions and the prime minister did address it and said that he wasn't told till late and shifted the owners from the the part of uh uh say a levy and others for not notifying him but there's still a time gap even from the time he was notified and um you know this this is why inquiry will be very divisive but maybe it's I think it's essential for the national health that this cloud be removed and that you know whatever um findings there are should be exposed and whatever culpability uh even after the years is still responsible. There are a lot of people out of the members of the IDF who resigned if you remember and and took responsibility or at least um partial responsibility for some of what happened. [clears throat] So I I do think that that boil has to be uh busted and lanced at some point. So we drain it at the second uh there's still a lot of confusion about the reports and when they're under oath or in front of a commission, you know, you you will likely to see learn a lot more about what happened. >> But now remember the last election was in 2022. This really could people forget this really could be this election a referendum on Netanyahu on October 7th. This really could be and you always point out how common it is for there to be surprises at the polls in Israel. This really could be the major issue without us realizing it under the radar. It could actually be a referendum on Netanyahu on October 7th. >> Well, certainly a referendum on Netanyahu on October 7th, the conduct of the war, many other things. Um and you know the the uh divisiveness we see how many formerly Klutnik you know are are out to see what what kind of coalitions can be formed. They there is talk of you know um rotation governments but most of the candidates don't trust Netanyahu from the past rotation governments. So um I I'm not sure that that is really a viable option. uh but they also have to say who is a leader I mean you know on this world stage and and who can take Israel uh in through a very difficult economic time which certainly Netanyahu is credited properly with having played a key role in Israel's economic um miracle and the fact that it sustained the growth and the investment I think $9 billion in in uh investment this year already um is it's remarkable and how many Israeli companies are still being bought now. Many new startups there are that are really making a difference in in AI and all sorts of advanced fields milit medical and and others. Uh so the economic miracle continues and I think Netanyahu is rightfully credited with playing a key role in that. uh and that it can sustain during a war. When you think a little country like this is able to sustain a war going on for as long as this has and uh that its economic growth is still amongst the highest and the birth rate remains amongst the highest. It is the highest amongst the developing countries and the um you know there are a lot of other factors that come into play but this this could be this could be decided on a few votes. It could be very narrow about [clears throat] and how many make the uh cut off of four seats otherwise those those votes are lost. So you saw Faglin joining a party because otherwise he and Smutridge might not have made the four vote cut uh minimum. >> Yeah, it's going to be interesting. Uh did you see that the Jewish uh attorney general of Michigan um has uh come out for the Democratic DSA candidate for Senate? Yes. And after her comments that she was too afraid to go to the Democratic convention in Michigan because she's Jewish and has been under attack, uh I'm sure she's been under a lot of pressure um to make this endorsement of El Say uh the fact that uh others have uh have similarly, you know, seemed to be willing to overlook, including some um members of the Senate and others uh [clears throat] which is, I think, beyond disgraceful. this guy who is whose words he can he can say now that he didn't mean it or he didn't mean it quite the way his whole life you see that the the the positions have been very consistent and where he stands and what he's likely to do once he's in the Senate and the the growing body that will be there will influence the leadership will be able to hold him hostage increasingly and and every candidate now will be looking over their s shoulders at the threats coming from those who are DS SA members or DSA affiliated. Uh you know, you see AOC says, well, she's not a member of the National DSA, she's a member of New York DSA. She We know very clearly what the agenda is and and uh the people who were involved uh should be held to account. >> Uh and finally, what do you think of the vice president's comments to the Republican Jewish Coalition? >> Um [clears throat] so I've only heard the snippets of it. I didn't watch the whole speech, but um I think you know the fact that he went he he wants to shore up his position with Jewish community. He also showed up at the meeting with the rabbis yesterday uh and the and the rebies. They the um >> [clears throat] >> uh but you know he he refuses to disavow his relationship or or in any way really put what Tucker Carlson and others say into context. He remains my friend, he said. And he, you know, despite the differences, this is not minor differences. This is a guy who's made blatantly anti-semitic stuff and and has been inciting as have others associated with him. So, that's somewhat disappointing on his part. But, I think he's looking at the at the upcoming presidential race and [clears throat] carving out his position on the Republican right. And I think we will see just as the DSA doing on the Democratic left [clears throat] and um you know a lot of this will will play out. We'll hear a lot more uh comments and statements uh that hopefully will clarify some of those positions. >> Going to be very interesting this election midterms uh presidential election a couple years from now. It's be very very interesting. Uh thanks so much for joining us today. have a wonderful shop as we'll let everybody know what the story is with next week and uh we will reconvene at the appropriate time. >> But in the meantime, please remind everybody to go out and register. Prepare to vote. Get your children if they're of age, sorry, to vote. Every school should be giving out voter registration forms. Follow the lot the lead of the vote that said you can't register your kids if you don't show that you're registered to vote. thousands of vote can make a huge difference in the outcome here in the city in the races and and uh in the larger situations every vote we see how many decisions and elections are decided by a couple thousand even less votes it's so important it's so imperative so instead of complaining people should and uh should act now make sure that you're eligible to vote make sure your neighbors can if you have elderly neighbors help drive them to the polls every vote counts and it's really critical that that we take this much more seriously. >> Appreciate that. Thank you, Malcolm. Have a wonderful job. As Malcolm Homeline, of course, weekly update here at JM in the AM