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Weekly Update: Nachum Segal and Malcolm Hoenlein Discuss the Latest News
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Nachum Segal welcomed Malcolm Hoenlein of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations to this morning's JM in the AM for the Weekly Update. They discussed the latest news concerning Israel and the Jewish community around the world.
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Malcolm Homeline is with us from
Jerusalem. We call this the weekly
update conference of presidents of major
American Jewish organizations. Mr.
Homeline, shalom. Shalom. Gumar
Katimata. Happy, healthy, and sweet new
year and welcome back to JM in the AM.
Well, it's always great to be here and
especially as I overlook you Shalim from
your your and my favorite hotel inbal as
uh everybody is getting ready for Yum
Kapoor. You feel it already in the air
even though you have a Shabbat in
between
and Shabbashua but the also the
anticipation you see sukas being buil
built all over it's very exciting always
no matter how many years we do it it
never gets boring or less interesting
>> yeah some areas of Israel especially in
Jerusalem it's suka after suka after
suka after suka like in some areas is
you can't imagine how every every spare
space is used to build the suka and I'm
sure you've seen plenty of that so far.
>> It is true. Well, you can see the
outlines of where they're going to be if
they're not there yet.
>> Right. Good point. Or people standing
and reserving the space. What floor are
you on at the inbound, Malcolm? I must
know.
>> Nine.
>> Oh, I remember the days when I used to
be on nine. Uh, you'll make it to my
floor soon enough. Don't worry.
No, this is what my pre preference
actually.
>> I'm kidding around right next to the
lounge so I don't have TO WALK FAR.
>> WOW, you're in you're in 902. That's
very impressive. Wow.
>> We We don't Please don't don't broadcast
where I am.
>> Oh, good point. How on earth can I do
this to Malcolm? How can I reveal his
exact location on the air? Well, it's a
new year and Sunday nights Kipper, so
hopefully he'll forgive me. Lots of
news. Obviously, the prime minister of
Israel is scheduled to arrive in the
United States. I would assume that you
are I don't want to use the word
endorsing, but there's certain rallies
and protests that you enthusiastically
back and others where you don't like the
format and you're a bit more reserved
about. I'm assuming the rally against
anti-semitism scheduled for the United
Nations 47th Street between 1st and 2nd
Avenue happening on Wednesday starting
at 5:00 p.m. I'd have to assume that
this round excuse me start Yeah.
starting this Wednesday at 5:00 p.m. I'm
assuming that this one meets I'm not
even saying this facitiously. I'm
assuming it meets your standards. Would
that be accurate?
>> Absolutely. We're all in favor of it.
It's responsible. It's primarily
non-Jews being featured. There's also an
event um that featuring the students uh
from SAR and impact and um and uh REMAS
uh you know when they're done
responsibly and when they're done with
thought and and planning and and um as
it's a tremendous educational tool that
young people today understand their
responsibility and the relationship to
all that is going on to them and to to
their lives. um for it. Uh I'm not for,
as I said many times, uh highlighting
necessarily uh the individual who was
elected as mayor. I think we should
focus on the policies and positions and
the um the designs that they advocate
and the positions that um are so
dangerous and damaging to us. And you
see that in the last election that 20 of
them succeeded from the DSA at least in
the primaries, hopefully an election
less, but there are scores of them
running around all over the country in
uh state, local, and federal elections.
And it's it means that we have to do a
much better job educating, mobilizing
ourselves and our allies and working
again in coalition like we used to do in
the past with uh other ethnic and
communities. And the truth is that the
assumptions many people make about how
blacks vote, how Hispanics vote, how
other groups vote are wrong. They are
wrong. And if you look at the
congressional elections, you see that
that pattern
>> is uh is very different than the way
it's advertised.
>> I am so glad you brought this up. I'm so
glad you brought this up in addition to
to for the reason that you just
mentioned there there are a lot of
people who, you know, have been so used
to the have been so used to the
incredible blessing we've had of this,
you know, amazing run of support over
the last couple of decades. And and
again, I know there's always problems,
but I think you know what I mean that
there are many who are very down about
the current situation and they look at
it as if, you know, there it's it's, you
know, it's spiraling downward and who
knows about the future of the Jewish
community and the relationship with
others. I think it's really important
what you just said. First, first of all,
number one, nobody nobody in our
community goes down without a fight. But
aside from that, we we have alliances,
networks, and coalitions with really
good, responsible leaders of all types
that have either been maintained or have
only been strengthened. And I think it's
really important for you to mention that
because again, there's this complete
misperception in my opinion that you
know that that things are coming coming
completely out of hand. You know, a
little bit of adjustment in the
perception of the Jewish world to others
and you know, all of a sudden everyone
starts to panic. What's the old
expression? Paranoid Jews live longer.
So, people like to be paranoid about it.
I'm glad you're saying this. I wouldn't
mind if you reiterated it, that there's
a lot of incredible networks and
affiliations with leaders from really
responsible, diverse groups who are
still supportive of the Jewish community
and are ready to rally against
anti-semitism.
>> Well, we see it in some of the votes
that took place. Unfortunately, it's
along party lines and the embrace by uh
the Democrats this week of the candidate
to in Michigan
uh there are negative signs no doubt and
we see that the polling numbers but you
can't believe the polling numbers they
are it depends on how the question is
asked depends on on the specifics and
who they're asking it to. There are
trends which are very disturbing and
damaging but as you said this is not a
question you just throw up your hands
and give up and say it's it's
devastation. I think that the trend
lines are disturbing but they can be
reversed and that you that why it's so
important that the efforts that we've
made about changing the situation on the
campuses number one about security but
number two about the freedom of
professors to engage not in intellectual
debate or even with controversial
positions but in in indoctrination and
paid for by foreign funds and the more
that we can get and the House Ways and
Means Committee had very important
hearings of course it gets no news
coverage but very important uh sessions
with NCRI and others pro providing
really critical information showing uh
what is re happening on on our campuses
and right now the responsibility for all
of us is the ballot box and that is to
mobilize to still do voter registration
and most of all voter turnout to make
sure everybody who can vote in our
communities has a right if they can't
get there otherwise but know where to
vote and why this is is of such
incredible uh significance. And I I want
to add one thing. I hear too often
people on radio shows or TV appearances
well-meaning
I mean even strong advocates who don't
understand that every time they talk
about the bad Jews and blaming the Jews
for Mamani or for DSA or blaming them
for other things they're going it is
true there are some Jews but like any
other community you have people with a
variety of views but the numbers they're
using are false the the and the
accusations and and what you're doing is
exculpating the real people responsible
for DSA and behind it. This is not the
Jewish community is not any significant
part and there are a lot of uneducated
young Jews out there uneducated
Catholics, Protestants, blacks, yellows,
everything. It's and the they're doing a
real disservice and it includes some
leading people and I've refrained from
till now in naming them but I will
because I think the damage they're doing
and the fact that others then repeat non
repeat the the charges about you know
the crappy Jews the ones Jews that voted
for in in the New York City election
they don't know the real numbers and yet
they buy into this propaganda machine
which is meant to split our community
and meant to create a momentum and that
that gives it a heer It is not. So, and
and they in with good intentions are
adding fuel to the fire.
>> Yeah, excellent point. Glad you brought
that up. Excellent point. Uh, is the
prime minister still scheduled to speak
Thursday? Kamoyo, is that going to be
the day he addresses the UN?
>> No, he's speaking this Thursday.
>> Yeah. I I So silly of me. Obviously not.
Yeah. Thursday before Sukis. I met
Right.
>> No, you got to meet the I began to doubt
myself. I'm saying, "Oh my god, I missed
a week." Uh um no, he's going to be
arriving on Wednesday,
>> right?
>> And he's going to speak on Thursday.
He'll be here, I think, a total of like
36 hours alto together. And then um uh
he will go back Thursday night. He'll be
back in Israel Friday morning or Friday
uh early. Um and it's it's he's not
doing many other things during this
visit. Uh he will I'm sure he'll have a
lot some number of bilateral meetings
and hopefully um or perhaps with uh like
like the foreign minister who was in
Israel this in United States this week.
Again, you saw that there was an
upgrading of the relationship between
Morocco and Israel, the diplomatic ties.
And I'm saying this because of all the
bad news that always dominates that
Morocco's foreign minister and Israel's
foreign minister met with the US
ambassador to UN and they agreed to to
um open embassies. Well, we have
diplomatic relations now and there is an
embassy in each country but to establish
formal ambassadorial level relations but
many other things and exchanges
and the remarkable
developments the almost miraculous I
would say about what's happening in
South America. The foreign minister has
recently visited, I don't know, half a
dozen other countries, but look how many
of them are visiting Israel, are
declaring that they're opening embassies
in Jerusalem or estam reestablishing
ties that have been cut for many years
from countries like Chile with a huge
Palestinian population. Argentina is a
driving engine of this and the changes
there. There's going to be an election
in Brazil which could produce good
results. But if you look at Colombia and
Guatemala, Ecuador, El Salvador, um, uh,
Panama as so many that are openly and
increasingly pro-Israel and
reestablishing the ties. So, you know,
they say God opens, if he closes one
door, he opens another. Well, we're
seeing a very important door opened and
Iran's long-term investment there being
minimized in part because of US policy.
>> Yeah. And I think the changes that are
taking place
>> and I'm saying this because you're going
into we have a lot to be thankful. There
are a lot of positive signs also in
Africa and elsewhere. Unfortunately,
there are negative signs. What happened
in Britain with France and all that, but
all of that we told him it was coming.
>> Yeah. Who would have believed? Who would
have believed that certain alliances
with Israel now exist?
Um well, the prime minister is going to
have to address at least. I mean, there
are two issues that he's going to have
to I think. I mean, you'll tell me if
I'm right or wrong. He's going to have
to. It's now the sixth anniversary of
the Abraham Accords, by the way. Add
that to your point. It's the sixth
anniversary of the Abraham Accords this
month.
And we see what's happening. I mean,
Saudi Arabia is under attack. It's
unlikely that that they're going to
forge a closer relationship with Israel
now because obviously uh the Houthis and
the Iranian proxies have are trying to
derail Saudi Arabia. uh and and and the
region in general, western Iraq, the
region in general is in somewhat, as we
know, of a turmoil and the United States
is still embedded in the whole
situation. I I have to assume he's going
to address this situation and and beyond
the desire to um rid Iran of nuclear
capability, he's going to have to
address the situation on the ground. Am
I right?
>> 100%. He has to discuss the Iran war and
the an ongoing war with Iran and Iran's
violations and ongoing aspirations and
attempts to rearmah
the and to rebuild uh the nuclear
production facilities and and enrichment
facilities and the IEA atomic energy
agencies u public criticisms and and uh
being denied access has underscored the
need for it and they called for to go
before the security council. IA did um
because of the of the Syrian they
ascribe to what is happening inside the
Iran on the nuclear front which is what
the president and others keep saying you
know we're not going to let him have
nuclear we're not going to have them let
him have it and I believe that's the
intention we also have to look at what's
happening in the straits and with the
Houthi movement against Babel Mandaba
and I know for people this sounds like
it's a place on Mars that it's so
distant and irrelevant the fact is it's
extremely relevant to everybody body.
It's going to affect all of your
pocketbooks and with this and this one
is not even that hard to understand.
Frankly, they're trying they're trying
they're trying to destroy a transit
route.
>> If you look at a map in one minute,
you'll understand it, which is why I
kept talking about why the Somali land
thing that people laughed about will
have potential significance. Now,
they're the opposite side, right? you
know, they're exactly on the opposite
side with Israel having enabling a
presence if they want in in Somali land
very important,
>> right?
>> So the the the the need to to re assert
the legitimacy and the urgency of those
situations. I I I think that he will I
think he will address what happened in
in Europe and Britain and the attempts
to isolate and the failure to attack any
of the other human rights issues in the
world but singling out only the Jewish
state and to to of course his message
will be as much for the people of Israel
given that it's coming uh you know a
month or so before an election a very
tight election
>> um and he will I think talk about the
the uh accomplishments but but to lay
out uh the agenda that's the common
agenda with the United States.
Unfortunately, we see the weakening
knees in in America too and and the
manifestations that on the part of
senators and the part of other policy
makers uh on are you including the vice
president in that?
>> Well, we'll come to that. Uh but right
now I'm talking about the general mood
that is created and the um uh lessening
of support and people attributing all
sorts of of they they forget about how
the Iran war started and what Iran's
aspirations would be and what they've
been doing and the seven front that they
created was not just against Israel. It
was against all their neighbors. The
fact they attacked all their neighbors
in the Gulf and and and did immense
damage to American bases. They did not
fire in this round against Israel. So
everybody who scribes and says you know
it's all about Israel they're wrong.
Israel is only because it's the mini
America because it's vulnerable they
thought and because they they um they
knew they could rally people and
especially in the Middle East who've
been indoctrinated and uh and there's
seven fronts which which is crumbling
and as we see Turkey building up its own
uh Sunni equivalent now which we should
talk about. So the the essential thing
is that that people are buying into the
lies and it's because of the
tremendously invasive um do indoctrinary
approaches funded by by foreign
countries particularly Qatar Turkey
others to indoctrinate on every level
whether it's campus high school
educational systems uh social media
everything to to pose the lie that this
is that Israel is driving this that it's
a question that when the vice president
uses terms like we're not subservient to
Israel. Who the hell ever said that
America is subservient to Israel? Does
anybody know Donald Trump that the does
they think that he's subservient to
Netanyahu and didn't Netanyahu ever try
to assert that? He educate they brought
the facts that they have. Everybody
agrees that Israeli intelligence is
significant. It's aided many of the
countries in the region and and in that
regard I want to just say what you meant
your reference to Saudi Arabia. The fact
is that now through a third party Israel
and Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia has
turned to Israel for help in fighting
the Houthis which have done a lot of
damage. You know, they fired missiles at
Saudi Arabia again and that war is
heating up. It's it's inconceivable to
me how it is that this little mouse of
the Houthies who were nothing. They were
Iraq had grew is able to exercise this
kind of control that should be bombed
along the coast and once and for all put
out of business. We fired rockets
constantly at them from the United
States. Israel had to because they were
firing at them and and certainly Saudi
Arabia, UAE and others have done it. And
yet this rag tag group of of terrorists
is able to influence the world markets
and to play this very destructive role.
So I think Saudi Arabia out of after
this may take a new look. I don't
anticipate and I don't think we should
chase them to join the Abraham Accords.
I think there are other candidates to
join the accords. uh God willing when
things quiet down and and we can move
ahead and after all the elections and
and hopefully some sort of uh decisive
outcome in regard to Iran that will free
people up because right now they're
intimidated right now. they they don't
feel free and worry about the fact that
if the United States pulls out or if
there's so much opposition to the United
States that they won't be free to act to
defend America's interests and that of
our allies in the region that uh that
they can't depend on on them. So the the
Go ahead.
>> No, you have uh you've often been very
cautious about what to acknowledge and
what not. For instance, the um
mention of the mayor of New York, you
know, you say some very often it's
better, especially in public, to ignore
him, etc. I get that. But back two steps
before we finish on on Saudi Arabia in
the Middle East. Does he does he address
the subserviency accusation or the
subservivenency topic at the UN or is it
better for him to ignore it?
>> No, that's not the place to do it. I
think it's something that should be
discussed. It's between the United
States and Israel at the highest levels.
The question was, was he reflecting a
view of the president? Was he expressing
his own view? And if it's his own view,
it's a it sure certainly reflects a
shortcoming in terms of knowing history
and and to to assert subservience that
American subservience to Israel is
ridiculous. It's true. Israeli
intelligence has been very valuable in
saving American lives and and Israeli
technology and that the joint operations
that they engaged in all beneficial to
the United States. And for him to imply,
you know, it's a one-way street that
that, you know, when they're valuable to
us, we we do it. When they're not, we
won't. That's not how an alliance works.
and and I hope that his understanding of
the region and the the facts are are
much different than the impression that
is created and how of course the media
then will manipulate a story like that
because that is the the juicy part of
and all the good that he could say or
other things will be ignored. So I hope
I hope that uh there'll be an
educational process and that that won't
remain the the thing but it but it also
feeds the American public and that's
what concerns me. America's one and only
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Jerusalem on this era of Shabashua and
then to finish up the Saudi Arabian
peace you have to also throw into that
uh to that whole equation the fact that
the Syria continues to build its
military and you've always said that
even with this new guy you can't trust
them. Uh what do you think that has uh
what type of impact will that have on
that situation
>> on which situation
>> about Syria is trying to build up its
military as all this is happening with
Saudi Arabia being a target of Iran
proxies
>> right so it's it's uh Shara uh I think
is being driven by a lot of forces and
there have been some exposures of things
that we said that Shara you know was a
terrorist and just because you put on a
suit it doesn't mean you aren't But I
think he's played it very cautiously and
uh there have been negotiations,
discussions between Israel and Syria and
if he's willing to play a constructive
mutual role, we would of course welcome
anything that diminishes the threats on
Israel's border. But you have nefarious
activities of to primarily Turkey today.
Iran has been diminished there. Russia
essentially out. So because Turkey
occupies 5% of of Syria, they have been
building military capacity there. That's
why Israel acted against that air force
base after Turkish officials were there
trying designing uh air defense systems
that would go there that would be able
to detect uh any threats from their
flights over Israel over Benorian from
this this location and the um the
attempts of Turkey to to colonize Syria
which it always has aspirations for and
wants it as a link in the Masim
brotherhood chain that would go to Egypt
that would go to Libya and Sudan where
they're present Somali and understand
that this then links up to Qatar which
is its partner in the Muslim Brotherhood
movement and unfortunately there's an
American diplomatic who has played a
role in in some of this that has been
increasingly acknowledged as not has not
helpful uh and the the state the the
sacrifices of the Drew Kurds and the
Drews and others and standing up to it
um it's not been easy for them. Uh so
that's why I you can't just look at this
uh with rose tinted glass. It's the
could be possible positive uh moves.
There is cooperation that's going on.
Israel continues to aid and keep alive
the Jewish community to a large degree
in in Syria and feels an obligation as a
humanitarian issue, but also because of
this Kurds and the the Drews in Israel
and the Kurds of course likewise. Um the
ones in Turkey near Turkey have been
disarmed, but the the ones in Kurdistan
have not. They are a very formidable
force and they have a huge population
inside Iran as well.
>> All right. Uh, no. One other piece I got
to get to in terms of the UN. Appreciate
all your analysis, of course, when it
comes to the Middle East. The the
demonstration we talked about, right,
Wednesday, there'll be people on the
street against anti-semitism. It's going
to be a pretty hot city, and I don't
mean temperature- wise uh this coming
week. You have to imagine. And uh
Thursday, when the prime minister speaks
on the Thursday before Sukkot at the UN,
you'd have to imagine there's going to
be a lot of protests going on uh and a
lot of people calling for him to be
arrested, etc., etc., the whole thing.
Malcolm, wouldn't you agree? Wouldn't
even you who who is not in favor of
giving the mayor any attention and
probably doesn't think the UN is the
right forum for it. Wouldn't you think
it would be amazing if the prime
minister went out of his way to somehow
in his initable inimable style declare,
"Hey, guess what, Mr. Mayor? I'm here in
the center of New York City speaking at
the United Nations." or something to
that effect.
>> Well, the the fact is that his presence
there is that declaration. He doesn't
need to verbalize it. I don't think a
prime minister should stoop to the level
of of an errant mayor, mayor.
Uh, as I said, I I won't mention his
name and I think we should not and we
shouldn't we should take the focus off
him because he exploits it for two
weeks. to exploit it to fight, you know,
about arresting Netanyahu, which he knew
he couldn't do. But he does incite and
he and he and he should be held
responsible for the results of that
incitement if if violence takes place
because he call for people to go to the
streets to protest. The prime minister
should ignore him, not build him up. We
should we should the demonstration
should be pro- Israel, pro America, talk
tell the story and and not build up the
appeal of the of the mayor and DSA
because all he thrives on is that a
public attention. Just look at his face
and watch how he reacts to it and what
what he reacts to and and staging things
including I think the unfortunate visit
to Burough Park where the store took the
brunt of criticism when I don't believe
that was fair to blame them. you know, a
guy walks in and and it was not people
from Burough Park. They didn't come to
the place, they knew he was coming. Many
knew they did not come and then you hear
people again blaming the Jews and
saying, "Oh, look, the Jews rallied for,
you know, invited him to borrow part."
It's outrageous. It's it's a slanderous
approach to this. And I think the the
prime minister also has to show that we
are above this guy that he he represents
the lowest level of knowledge and of of
American decency. They are
anti-American. We have to show the world
they're anti-Christian. They're anti-
everything that we believe in. They're
anti-democratic. They they and that that
will reach out to more people and
mobilize them. I think the students
demonstration is important to show that
young people are committed and there
they should direct that the
demonstrations properly and we should be
working on our campuses much more to uh
to mobilize the good people and to
strengthen them and let them know
they're not alone. And I hear from a lot
of them are already encountering
problems on the campuses in the short
time that they've been there this year.
It hasn't gone away. It doesn't make the
headlines because it's sometimes
eclipsed by all the other anti-semitic
stuff that's going on. This is a time
we're being tested. You know that that
>> by the way too makes the difference
between optimism and hope. So you know
that that that they're not the same
thing. Optimism is passive and it's
expectations things will improve on
their own. Hope, he said, is active.
It's it's the conviction that together,
human beings can make a difference and
make the world better. Well, we're in a
period of hope now. We're a period where
we have to be active, not just think
we're going to make things better. We
have to act to make things better.
>> By the way, someone pointed out that
with this rally, which again has your
complete endorsement, and I think it's
really the style that you usually uh try
to, you know, put together. They're
doing it in that uh in that format, so
to speak. This rally against
anti-semitism on Wednesday. Someone
pointed out that certain national
organizations, some of whom are well
known for their synagogue services have
not come out uh endorsing the rally yet.
Uh certain national organizations whose
constituents frankly this coming week
are not even going to be busy in yeshiva
uh because it's really a vacation week
after Yum Kipper that they haven't come
out for the rally. Wouldn't you want to
see all the organizations come together
and endorse this?
>> They should want to see it. It's not
because I want to see it and I do in
fact as you you're rightly you're right.
But it's it's uh every one of them
should understand because it's their
future, their institutions. Look at the
law changes. Look at the things they're
doing to our communities. Look at all
the things that are impacting us on our
local level and the national level. the
laws that are being introduced, the the
legitimization of of anti-semitism and
the fear intimidation of people because
when somebody stands up against an
anti-semite, then the the the he becomes
the subject of attack and we should
thank uh Mr. Craft. We should thank
others who stand up proudly and and uh
don't cower in the face of of uh the
pressures that are brought to bear.
>> So, you're not going to be attending any
McLemore concerts. Basically, you're
making that declaration.
Uh, you can be sure. I wasn't going to
attend it before, but I'm certainly not
doing it now.
>> What did you think of the uh the
financial pledge Mr. Craft made to
Palestinian uhh support?
>> Well, first of all, you know, Israelis
were called Palestinians, too, so he can
give a lot of money to Gushkif and maybe
covered. But, but look, he's a major
donor to Israeli Jewish causes. I trust
fully his discretion about what he does.
And then we're not against the human
people. But people, you know, uh,
>> that's true. People have to remember
that.
>> Humanitarian.
>> That's true. People need to remember
that. People need to remember that.
>> I'm glad you said that because a lot of
people like to jump on, you know, why
did he do it? But we have to remember,
we're not against helping those who are
in actual need. So hopefully he's
>> And remember, he has football teams. He
has other things that that uh will pay a
price for it. But he stands by
principle. He did it in the action that
he took. I think it was appropriate not
to allow this thing to happen. And if
you get an immediate reaction, but the
message is also to all of those next
time will think twice about who they
bring. And and I'm not faulting uh the
guy who who who had him as a partner,
but I think the the everybody who was
involved and knowing this guy's record
should not have allowed him to appear
and to perform. There has to be a price.
The the the intimidation of pro-Israel
people doesn't get the kind of reaction.
It doesn't get the condemnation that it
should. Well, now it's time that that
has there has to be a price paid for it
and that the the pro-Israel voices have
to be heard and be given the legitimacy
they deserve. What do you think of Uval
Abraham and Rachel Zor getting the
special prize at the 83rd Venice Film
Festival on Rashana by the way for the
Naza film. Now, of course, the prime
minister's come out against it and he's
threatened many different things against
those who are responsible for it. What
what do you think of the whole thing
especially uh from the free speech
angle?
>> Look, we all believe in free speech, but
free speech is also responsible speech
and to reward somebody who did a
one-sided blast and you know now he said
he's afraid to go back to Israel. I'm
not upset about that. I do think that
the demonstration from his parents house
is not necessarily appropriate. I don't
think that's the way you go. We don't
blame the parents because of the actions
of some child their child but but I do
think that you know that we have to just
say deno but not to jump on every
bandwagon because we have to think of
the counterveiling mobilization that
then takes place or 150 200 people I
would sign a thing and all the other
performers resign from appearing with on
the concert tour. You know, we have to
think and pick our shots and we have to
do all the ground work that people will
understand why this is so horrendous
instead of hearing him applauded by
thousands of people in a stadium when he
makes a declaration like that, you know,
about free Palestine. He didn't say free
weaguers. He didn't say free to
Christians in Nigeria. He didn't say
free any other people. So, that tells
you that the guy is his target. He is
not a human rights advocate. He's a
bigot.
>> Yeah.
and we and they knew it before that tour
even started. Uh it's got quite a
history. Um are you feeling the campaign
at all? Like is it are you you've been
you've been there for more than a week.
Is it obvious that this is all going to
be pushed off until the day after
or do you already get the impression
that there's an active campaign for the
Israeli elections going on in Israel?
Well, I've only been here two days.
You were not You were not there,
Rashetta. You you you gave the
responsibilities of the leadership of
the great synagogue to somebody else. I
>> I do because I spoke at the program in
in um in uh suffering and as I have for
the last 25 years, 30 years even with
them. So, I feel it's an obligation and
I we had a wonderful program and
congressman Lawler came and he wowed
everybody. He's a terrific guy and
anybody listening who can contribute to
his campaign or lives in his district
makes sure everybody turns out to vote.
20% of the district is Jewish. They can
determine the outcome whether a DSA
member or an amazing advocate gets
elected. Wow. Uh but yes, I feel the
election virtually it's not it's so much
on street signs but um I'm meeting with
a number of the political candidates in
the coming week and um it it is a
determinant factor I think right now in
discussions. Uh people understand how
important the outcome of this election
is and it's certainly very uncertain. Um
the numbers fluctuate, the alliances
fluctuate, people, you know, switch from
all linking from one side to another. Uh
it's very uncertain. That's not what
Israel needs now. Uncertainty. And the
outcome of the election could be one
that's not determined for months
afterwards. And a lot of people believe
that there will go back to a couple of
elections before or at least another
election before there is a an outcome
that really gives it gives sufficient
weight to any which side of the part of
the boundaries the left right um will uh
emerge victorious. Um I I think you
never sell BB short. He's always proved
himself very resilient, but that can run
out and I think they're going to be uh
it will be a very tough campaign uh
coming up with a lot of things said and
done and some already that have been
things that have been said that I think
are regrettable in in a democratic uh
debate. you don't knock your own country
and and try to expose it which the
enemies um from all sides just grab on
to and they they they use it against
Israel and not because of one against
one party. So people should be very
careful in the heat of a campaign to to
what they say and I think the um that it
it'll waver back and forth a lot over
the coming days. Um, I'm sure the prime
minister's speech will be as much
directed at the people of Israel, it'll
be the people sitting in the UN chamber.
>> Yeah, I get that. You think this issue
of what he knew before October 7th is
going to be a major discussion for the
next 5 weeks in Israel?
>> I do. And I think because we haven't had
the commission of inquiry because we
haven't had, you know, blame assigned
completely and he had a few resignations
and things like that.
I think the um yes that it will be uh
one of the factors that plays out very
strongly. The economic conditions so
many other things that will come into
play uh in the it will be used by the in
the heat of the uh I think what will be
a very intensive campaign.
>> Uh how much will materona go for at the
great synagogue? Any clue?
>> You want to put in a bid? Is there when
does
>> I can get you a bargain?
>> When Well, I can't Well, I could buy it
for someone else. I guess my cousin does
live around Absolutely.
>> does live around the corner there.
>> Yeah,
>> you have good friends who are going to
be there and I'm sure they would be very
happy and I can put in I can just get
you the
>> Well, what's the average? What does it
normally go for, Malcolm? Give me the
Give me a ballpark here.
>> I would say it certainly would go for
18,000 or
>> Wow. So if I come up with 36 grand, I'm
guaranteed
>> guaranteed and and and and a place we
also sell for which goes for a lot of
money but several people buy the that
honor and as you know it's very
impressive and we have nal this year in
addition to our regular kazin wife and
and the people who were there was shana
said it was amazing and I'm sure yipper
will be even bigger. Wait, did I go did
I aim at the wrong keyboard? Is opening
the Aron for for an NLA more expensive
than after Yona?
>> It depends on how many people bid on it,
but it's uh it goes for a lot of money.
>> Oh boy.
>> But it's a big co
>> and of course a big coven. I'm not
minimizing it. I want it. I'm not
minimizing it.
>> And uh for you we can get to you for
495.
>> And is there anything else that comes
close or those are the two that are at
the top?
um
>> holding a Torah for Nidra.
>> I mean the the alias go for for good
money and and you know we depend upon
it. The you know the great synagogue
>> well obviously
>> is raising needs to raise a lot a lot of
money and anybody who wants to have the
most iconic dedication of dedicating the
great synagogue on King George Street
with your name on the front of the
building. They should call me and uh we
can
>> Oh, they're trying to they're trying to
actually dedicate the synagogue.
Yeah. Wow.
>> And we need to do we need to make it
handicap accessible. We need to we've
done a lot of work inside the shoe
already and some people have come for it
very generously and donated uh parts of
it and part of the reconstruction and
you know we have beautiful spider shield
there now that can be dedicated. We have
other facilities that we're working on
and um you know bit by bit we're we're
bringing it into 21st century. You know,
Malcolm, when I grew up, there was the
Colidre appeal, the Isker appeal. Do you
know what the appeal? You know what my
father led? Which appeal he led right
before Nila?
>> Either Malcolm Bubbin or uh Israel
bonds.
>> It was Bonds. It was Bonds. And the
Schultz family every year in the front
row would always give the first pledge
of $10,000.
Every year, Israel bonds.
>> But remember, it's an investment. So
people can give Israel bonds. It's a
charity. You get the money back and most
reliable investment. I don't want to
say, you know, pitch, but I I think
Israel bonds is very important. All of
the duckets this year are important. the
need for for money here for
rehabilitation for for the hospitals for
the uh schools for the yeshivas for the
you know the JCTs and sharedexics and
allas
everyone is really doing and have made
huge investments in having to build
facilities underground we don't even
think about all the costs and and
sustaining many many families who do not
have enough this uh the yumtoim to
really provide for their families. And
so there are a lot of organizations that
do great work. Check them out before you
give. Verify that they're legitimate
things, not just because they're online
and have a name, but see if in fact
they're real and then give generously.
>> Look at the list we have folks at.com.
Hey Malcolm, if they ever let me out of
my contract at the New Springville
Jewish Center, you and I together for
NLA at the Jerusalem Synagogue one year,
please God, right next to each other.
>> Sitting in the in the audience.
Absolutely. You'll get a prime seat. I
can't promise you a bea.
>> No, I don't need the beimma. I just need
I just need to be inspired by your
leadership. That's all.
>> I will I'll be happy to to persspire. I
need I need to I need to get to a higher
level on yakipurim. Uh in all
seriousness, wishing you a sim. I am
assuming that um
I am assuming that uh we will be
together uh next Friday of sukus. Will
that be possible from Jerusalem? Not
together. I hope so. Right. That's what
I
>> Yes. Yes. So
>> an easy fast. Uh enjoy the people don't
always remember that you're supposed to
enjoy Kipper. Dudu Fisher and I always
say to each other before the that Yum
Kipper is our favorite day of the year
as crazy as that might sound because of
the fasting and everything, but it's
100% true. I absolutely love Yum Kipper
and I hope you have an amazing Yub and
look forward to speaking to you next
week. Please God,
>> thank you and to everybody
good you're a healthy one and may all be
fulfilled for good.
>> Amen. Amen. We know the power of prayer
folks and there's a lot of challenges
out there. Pray appropriately. make it a
really meaningful yum kipper. Uh the
Jewish people will benefit from it.
Aside from you and your family, the
Jewish people will benefit from