The Weekly Update with Nachum Segal and Malcolm Hoenlein on JM in the AM

Boy, Malcolm Homeline is with us. We call it the weekly update conference of presidents of major American Jewish organizations. Mr. Homeline, a pleasure to welcome you back to JM and the AM. >> Thank you. It's great to be with you. >> Have you been following the um and I know we know your attitude toward polls in Israel. Nonetheless, it's still interesting uh to see the reports that Prime Minister Netanyahu, I have to assume at no other point with this distance till the election uh in this case it's at the end of October. I can't imagine he's had this little support according to the polls. Do you think I'm right about that? And what's your reaction to the latest news regarding the upcoming election? Well, it does reflect the uncertainty that uh prevails and the fact that you have this proliferation of small parties which is uh obviously disconcerting to him and he has been urging as he did last time if you remember for Benir and Smutri to join because his fear is and it's I think it's pretty legitimate because it's happened in the past that a lot of the votes in his case on the right will be lost by the smatterings of of small parties because a if they don't make the the threshold the 4% I think threshold then they um then they those votes are lost and you have a lot of partial votes so cuz you you need really 170,000 votes to make it into the Knesset which has four seats I think it's 41 42,000 votes per seat u but you need for four to to qualify for the threshold If you're below that that gets lost. So you could easily lose the the election by the defection of a lot of the right wing vote or right of center vote to these uh proliferation of parties uh including the new one with General Winter which I think he probably sees as a greater threat than some of the other parties that Winter is a very popular figure a hero and um has assembled a very varied list uh of people including number two within in Arab Christian um Ysef Adad. So they have these um I mean a lot of this will will work itself out. Some of them will merge. Some will probably see the handwriting on the wall and um and not run. But it's it's not going to be an easy walk. And I I know that he had meetings this week where he expressed concern about uh where he gets the votes to really put together the coalition that is necessary. But increasingly the opposition doesn't seem to have the votes either. So you could have a long you know delayed period of opposition. There were rumors yesterday even of uh a joint uh government with Eisenhot. >> Is that a trial is that like a trial balloon a test balloon being sent up by >> Exactly. >> I think I think so. Yes. And [clears throat] Eisenhot of course will say no because then people will say well if we're going to end up with a BB vote government then we might as well vote for BB right and then or or we'll vote for not forot for other opposition parties. >> We have even more important news to get to but let me let me wrap up this part with this question. I'm curious if you agree or not because we we I mean in your lifetime I I I believe it's accurate to say that the largest parties after an election generally had between 30 and 40 seats. Would that be accurate that we're always used to that number somewhere between 30 and 40 >> in the old days they used to you always had the opposition years it was labor leading and then but even recently right even recently like like last time around what's better in your opinion especially as we look toward the future of the uh political situation in Israel if I said to you that the largest you know number of seats in this upcoming election would be I don't know 12 13 is it better do you think to try to form a government and get 61 from that standpoint, meaning is it better for the people of Israel? I'm not talking about what's better for the politicians. Or do you think it's really better politically and really for the nation if someone is able to bring in, I don't know, 30, 40 seats into the discussion? >> I think it's more destabilizing and the harder it is to put together a coalition, the more concessions you have to make to the individual parties to get them into the coalition. right now I don't see exactly how this coalition will work. I do believe a unity government is essential now. uh that to rebuild confidence still to deal with the post October 7th to face a lot of the economic issues uh that a unity government or or an overwhelming majority in the Knesset for a government a coalition government uh which obviously it's always the the politics of Israel will lead to coalition governments and cause the list system that uh [clears throat] nobody in America really understands or seems to understand exactly how they vote. But I think that whatever gives Israel the greatest stability, confidence in the government, ability to make tough decisions, and to have greater accountability, >> right? Um, how serious do you think Jonathan Pard is as a potential candidate in one of the parties? >> I I I think, you know, he's run before and um I don't think it it makes a significant difference. >> And can you give us any insight into the seriousness? And I know every rumor of an assassination attempt is obviously serious, but you know what I mean in terms of the degree of uh of of how close this was. Uh the reported Iranian plot against Yay Netanyahu in Florida. Well, the the Iranians are plotting against Israeli leaders all the time as well against American leaders and the reports that that the President Trump's son youngest son uh was also was also a target. Uh again, there could be non-governmental initiatives. There could be rogue initiatives even from governmental figures in Iran. But Iran has has engaged in assassinations in Europe and elsewhere of political opponents. So it's very consistent with what they have done and what they've threatened to do. They say it publicly, including about killing the president, having the pictures in in the middle of Tan, big displays, uh, calling for their death or picturing the death of leaders in usually Trump and Netanyahu, uh, lead the parade. Uh, so I take seriously the fact that that it is possible that they wanted to carry out this attack that they have. Remember they did an assassination in Washington DC. They wanted to attempted assassination of the Saudi ambassador. So it's all in the realm of possibility. People forget that this is a regime that is continuing the executions. Maybe a thousand people executed aside from the massacre last January of tens of thousands. uh continuing to execute people all the time publicly to intimidate to to send a message to humiliate and the the um you know this bloodlust on their part is is not limited. So it is very credible to think that they would especially after the assassination of the supreme leader have authorized an attack. You know, it's interesting. Sometimes we forget and uh don't consider how the children and family members of any high-profile person on the right, certainly Fox News people, etc., they wake up in the morning and they and they, I'm sure, have in the back or front of their minds that they could be a target, a potential target. This type of violence and assassination attempts usually comes from the left, as we know, especially recently. And every one of them is uh you know Natanyao wakes up in the morning and you know it may be it may sound funny to certain people but the reality is that uh you know he knows there's a target on his back. >> Well he might be also uh have a target in Israel but not not the same kind because as you know the prime minister has reserved the right to name eight of the seats. So the 25 seats that are likely eight of them are his appointees which means they the rest are voting for 17 others. Uh and the report is that he wants to name his son to one of those eight slots which he has to do before the election. I know there is a deadline by which you have to make these announcements. uh I think would not sit well with the the people if he did it. But um you know there were other efforts to make him a member of the WCO other stuff in the past, >> right? >> Oh yeah, remember that. That's right. Oh boy. I'll tell you BB usually succeeds when it comes to political minations. That time he did not. It's funny. Uh and >> he could he could it could it can be done. The question is what will the reaction be to it? And I think it would hurt him. >> Right. Understood. Uh, and while we're on the subject of elections, how do you react? You're a prominent uh, uh, Jewish leader in this country, how do you react when Mike Rogers campaign specifically asks Apac to just stay away and distance yourselves from us, stay off the air with commercials, etc., and that that's the best strategy they claim to win that race. Well, I've tried to allude to it uh for the last for many months and years uh that that I have questions about the strategy that's being pursued and that the fact that Apac has become an issue uh what they're doing is perfectly legitimate and some of them very necessary but I think it's too high-profile and um you know the other side uh the George Soroses the Qatari money the the other sources and a lot of stuff will come out I think what has spent it so eclipses the when you take the totality of it uh and especially with foreign funding coming into it there's no foreign funding in Apac this is Americans giving support for pro-American candidates who are pro-Israel as well and and it's perfectly legal and and legitimate. The question is how you do it and whether it's healthy that you know APEC has become the subject not just there when Cy Booker and people like that. Uh you know you don't have to go to to to um to this very controversial case. I mean Rogers who is pro-Israel and did go to events with even in the last weeks with um Apac supporters. uh Apac, you know, has been made the boogeyman and and it's a way to to denigrate Israel and to to carry out BDS and all of the hatred against Israel with legitimization by saying to the American to people, look, we're just protecting, you know, your rights and things h how about how much money did Mamani or DSA get? Where do we where do we trace that? How do we find and and there are investigations now going on about some of the foreign funding of organizations even you see it in the the southern law poverty uh organization the others where we see potentially the the misuse and misallocation of funds and uh using it for political purposes. Apac does everything out front. It's not nothing is hidden. There is the Apac organization. continues its educational and other work. And they created this because they're trying to compete in in the political realm where the the opposition has been spending money for years investing in their candidates. What's happened with the with the um DSA is not from today. It's not from yesterday. This has been going on for a long time. And we've seen the campaign, the plans and stuff to to train a 100,000 journalists and and filmmakers, 100,000 political science and lawyers to go to run for office to to create new legislation to influence public opinion. So this is it's part of the program to delegitimize Israel and to to denigrate Jews and and Jews rights to have this to to have their say in the political process and and and doing it all above board. >> And when you brought up Senator Booker, meaning his reaction to to how the how mainstream Democrats have to be careful with certain DSA candidates, is that what you mean? No, I mean that he said he would not take Apac money and that he told >> this didn't he also come out with warnings about um what some members some new members of the Democratic party obviously meaning DSA are doing to the party wasn't there something >> yeah because they they worry about their own election if they are even a little you know somewhat mainstream they they could be an endangered species and I do not respect what he said uh about taking money from APAC and joining getting on that bandwagon. Uh the other senator from New Jersey is is not considered a friendly uh senator. >> Although a drop a drop a drop better than he was, right? Or am I wrong? >> A drop better than he was when he started the the junior senator. Yeah, >> not a drop better than he was. No, >> it has to be proven. We haven't Well, let's see when he votes this year. I don't do not sue that it's better. Uh I see the the um you know aside from Josh Godheimer who's been very outspoken and courageous uh member of Congress you don't see any real heroes emerging by the way there and and I think Hakim Jeff is does not get enough credit. I think he's been standing up more uh than some of the other leaders and um uh you know I I think he feels himself threatened by DSA not just cuz he said she was going to run against him etc. Um but he sees what's happening to the party and whether he would be able to win an election because it's not just then members of the DSA who get elected. It's the intimidation factor influencing many others. uh your reaction to the United States lifting Syria's terror designation and do you agree with the Syrian foreign minister that security talks with Israel will resume? >> Well, the first of all, I I think it's premature to do to lift the the sanctions. You know, he hasn't proven himself. We we still see the operations in the country both by Iran but and mostly by Turkey trying to establish their forces there. I don't think it's it's a a terrible thing and but already the banks have rushed in others credit card companies you know which were all barred. Uh I think if we can improve the economy and show the people that moving away from the dictatorial regimes and you know the Assad days uh beneficial but we we have to remember that that Shara if you know the situation inside the country you know the Islamization process continues and he has stood he has there are things positive things that they have done >> I know that the others are angry at him Turkey particularly which occupies more than 5% of Syria and [clears throat] which wanted to move its forces is down across the border, which is why Israel had to strike that air force base. They did give advanced notice. The lies continued to be promulgated that they they hit after the Turkish troops, everybody left, but they had notified the the Syrians before, but they had to put the marker down that they're not going to tolerate Iran moving and establishing itself. And we know that they were going to create a base there, a presence there in that base. It's something that they they've tried to do. they're trying to do on multiple fronts and uh it's obviously an unwelcome things and and frankly the role of the US ambassador to Turkey has come under greater and greater scrutiny uh it's things we alluded to here for a long time that he has made statements including about the Golan heights which he had to retract including about Israel's role in this could have started World War II there's nobody in the world who believes that uh but he you know there are many people who claim he has close associations with Qatar and Turkey and etc. that uh you know Syria is is is a serious place for Israel and as long as they can have the corridor to the Drews as long as they can have the buffer zone and the uh I know the Turks and others were angry because they they feel sh hasn't done enough to drive them Israel's presence out of there is appeared more accommodating. There are talks going on, there are communications going on and I do believe that talks can resume and they won't have they won't negotiate the Golan right now. they can create some sort of a security arrangement that both sides will benefit from. the fact that that um Syria doesn't allow the cross Iran to trans shship stuff as they did before though some of it goes through the to to Lebanon toad Lebanon those are important but the the treatment of the minorities the the danger that would be faced by the Jews in particular but also Christians and by Kurds and others and I speak to them regularly and they are very concerned and they're growing acceptance and if you look at Damascus you see how the process of Islamization is continuing with the women more restricted the co dresses dress uh being much more restrictive than it was. Um you know so Shara I think is knows proven very clever in dealing with the president dealing with others um putting on a front but we have yet to prove whether he will really stand against the Islamist Islamist forces. Will he stand against Turkey and the aspirations of Erdogan to become the caiff in the region? And that extends to Egypt. It extends to Sudan. It's extends to Somali. He where he wants to create this contiguous line of influence for the Muslim Brotherhood to Qatar, which is his partner in this. >> Do the leaders of Syria and Turkey come to the UN next month or they don't usually show up to that event? >> No. Erdogan usually did come. I don't know how well he is. U I mean I hear various reports but uh he he doesn't come every year and I think if they have meetings with the president or other things then they would come. Uh so he yes he used to come and we used to meet him every year at those events until we stopped now given his behavior >> and Syrian leader never shows up right. Well, Assad didn't come, but Assad, I guess, was afraid to go anywhere virtually, right? But the um yeah, Syrian leaders, the foreign minister might come, the prime minister. There are others who could come. So, and Iranians the same, you know, that different officials, the president would come or the prime [clears throat] minister came and spoke at the United Nations and gave one of their diet tribes. And I expect that they will try to do it again this year. It'll be interesting to see if the US will let them in even though there's the headquarters agreement which is supposed to regulate that just as the threats against Netanyahu would have been were negated by the agreement with UN about the diplomats coming. Um and people should see the events and participate wherever it's appropriate in when the prime minister comes. He'll be here for a very short period and we don't need demonstrations when he speaks but before and and demonstrations about what what is happening here and around the world on anti-semitism and anti-Israel music. Doesn't matter what you think of the prime minister. What's important is that we show our solidarity support for Israel and and against Jew hatred and the other things that we see going on today. America's one and only Jewish moments in the morning radio program heard on listeners sponsored digital radio around the world the web.com and the network of course the beloved NSN app Malcolm homeline with us we call this the weekly update then there's the story of the crossber kites found at quarza several recovered kites carried multicometer strings raising suspicion of systemic field tests probing the fence and response times uh Israel ordered maximum force against the launches targeting those responsible evacuating launch area neighborhoods, striking local uh infrastructure. They call every launch an act of war. And now they have a three-day ultimatum on these kites that have been uh that has been uh issued to the enemy. What do you think of this potential threat? >> Well, I think if they didn't learn the lessons from October 7th, we saw how they probed the border. We saw the crossber actions more than 60 incursions across the the yellow line and where people you know Hamas and and other operatives I guess were are now carrying out these kind of raids against um Israeli installations along the the yellow line inside Gaza and the orders that were given not to to respond to it which of course frustrates the troops on the front line and I think should be explained. You can't answer each of the raids. They don't want to escalate where it's not necessary. But it is what we learned from October 7th is that you have to nip this in the butt. They did the same thing sending over balloons, kites, uh, and drones has to stop. They're using them to ship weapons, drugs, and take back uh, money from them. They have more and more sophisticated drones and balloons. They they are testing the capacity of of Israel to see they detect them. It doesn't matter whether they had an explosive attached to it. Now, the obviously the goal is ultimately that they would and they showed what they did with it in the past. And anybody who who thinks that we should ignore it or just that it it's um you know it's meant to prod us Israel is not it's not true. You you you learned we paid a heavy price for it. It can't be repeated and that the ultimatum is only the first step in what must be done. I I don't understand how radar and other things don't pick up these uh these drones. I understand that they're small, but uh they're not that small and even visual sightings of them. >> Yeah, understood. Um there was a report that um that the straight of Hormuz has been cleared of Iranian mines according to SenCon. Now I'm I am curious about this. I mean, literally, do they inspect every nautical mile and are able to make that determination? I mean, an operation like that must be massive. >> It is because they they the Iranians dumped these a lot of these mines um at the beginning of the war and they they don't have the mind sweepers and things to clean up. It's actually the British have uh a lot of capacity in this area. Um because they were sea power and uh mine sweeping was uh they were waiting for ships to come from Britain to do mine sweeping. But they're not talking about taking all of them out. They're talking about clearing a pathway uh a waterway for the ships to go so that the mines are not in the in the corridor that has been created by the United States closer to Oman and you know the Omanis and the Iranians have been negotiating they've come up with some scheme you know to revenue share but right now the United States is escorting the ships many of them got through uh the number is up 400% sent. So it's it's um providing more and more fuel and energy coming through the the straits and countries willing and ships willing to take the risk. Many of them downloaded from the big ships, the mega ships to smaller ones and then uh when they get through the straits then put the oil onto one of the these big carriers which can take up to 2 million gallons or or barrel 2 million barrels of oil uh on a single shabet. It's a huge amount and the um so it's a corridor that's been cleared and that's important uh because and and that the Iranians aren't able to exercise their what they claim was their bottom line demand of having to get a charge even though they'll say it's an environmental charge or something else but the United States is is assuring that their passage as you know the USS Roosevelt is coming now to the Middle East. It's replacing uh the the ships that have been there, the ship that was there, the aircraft carrier for a long time. We'll have to see what the Lincoln and others are going to do because their presence aside from the physical security that they bring with the massive the air 5,000 people are on board the Roosevelt and you have the planes etc. and they're supposedly coming there for a seven-month deployment. Um it's the it's the symbolic presence and message to the region that the United States is there and on the front line and will continue to act uh against uh Iranian threats both verbal and physical the kinetic threats are taking place >> and we should mention that the president of the United States has abandoned the memo of understanding at this point uh >> and the talks and the talks as well and >> [clears throat] >> um I mean the the damage supposedly in the billions of dollars to our infrastructure in the region to security systems and places. So when when they were firing rockets at at our allies in the region know that they were really doing real damage to America's security position and interests there. >> Uh Admiral Cooper said this week that Iran has exported zero oil since mid July. That's a month now. I'm under the impression that China is their greatest customer. Is that correct? Is Iran? >> Yes, it is. So, first of all, is that true that they went a month without exporting anything? And secondly, China in reaction to the proposal of United States sanctions basically said that they're uh you they're sort of like playing their card and they and they they won't allow this economic D-Day to take place um against Iran obviously with you know tremendous leverage over the United States. So now with China So now number one are they still exporting to China or not? And number two, if if the Chinese are there to have Iran's back and the United States feels this, you know, leverage against them from China, even the econ strong economic sanctions are worthless at this point. >> The the strong economic sanctions are >> worthless are worthless at this point. No matter what the president says, the Chinese are always going to be there to help the Iranians. Well, first of all, they can't compensate for for the total for the losses that they are um suffering across the board. Um China takes about 80% of the oil that was being produced. It is down and the Iranians have said they have not ex exported any, but that's by sea. There have been some overland routes. There's some smuggling that is going on, but it can't compensate for for the massive loss that um of the ships. And I think that they take the threats of America seriously. They there are ways that they do it that they turn off the transponders and they you know have been sending but I think the United States has and the US Navy is blocking um the ships from going through the straits. Uh China has about a billion barrels in storage of oil. So they they can absorb it for some time but they they are dependent uh on this these imports and particularly from from Iran the and Iran was serving also as an outlet for some of the illicit Russian oil that was sanctioned how they survive I don't know the the the currency which I've talked about when when it was 10,000 to the dollar or 5,000 to the dollar not so long ago is now 2 million to the dollar, which means you, you know, you have wheelbarrows of cash to buy a a bottle of milk. Food shortages and other things do appear to be uh more apparent. Uh clearly, you can't sustain it. The inflation is running. Uh they admit at 60 or 70%, but most people estimate it at being in triple digits. >> So, how do they live? How do they live this? >> I don't know. I honestly ask all the time. And when I ask um people in Iran, they tell me they don't know. And people are saying it's that, you know, they they had savings and people get paid more because of it, but but they can't keep up with it. There are homegrown food and stuff which they are uh you know enables people to to live. But the it's a it's a mystery to me how they they can cope with this kind of inflation with the dollars becoming their cash becoming worthless. And even in recent conversations with people in Iran, the they acknowledge the the difficulty. But the synagogues, the other community agencies um continue to operate. There is funds. I know for those who who do better uh enabling others, but it has there has to come a cracking point um when when with the figures and numbers that we just cited. But the Chinese are going to continue. They're they buy energy anywhere and everywhere they can. So they do look for alternative sources. Uh you know Saudi Arabia was continuing to export. UAE was continuing to export. Uh UAE more of its the natural gas that was shipping before is it's not a big uh drop. Um and Saudi Arabia using the overland routes. Now you see the talk about other steps to bypass the straits including Qatar by the way involved in those activities. They have they have cut back a lot on their exports. So there could be long-term ramifications from all the loss. Um but it also wouldn't take long to ramp up and get the oil shipping again. And remember the United States is self-sufficient. We do not need foreign oil for our own economy. But we are impacted when prices around the world go up on everything because oil and oil byproducts are used in so many things and plastic and and so many other products that people don't think about. And when their economies and inflation is running rampid then the prices of everything goes up and everybody pays price. >> There's no oil under the lake of America. >> Well, there could well be. I guess now we'll we'll have to go and and look. Uh, so I I hope everybody this morning erased the the name and replaced the name of the >> Oh, you're endorsing the president's initiative. I like that. Very nice. >> Why not? >> Why not? Exactly. Why not? Is basically saying it. Two weeks from tonight's Russ. Do you find yourself giving communities even more stern warnings about security this time around in 2026 than you usually do? Actually, I don't think that I think people are more aware and finally and you know for how many years we kept warning and begging people to take steps. >> Yeah. A couple people a couple people infiltrate Manhattan synagogues all of a sudden people wake up. It's true. You're right. >> It is. It is. There is much greater awareness. People are more careful especially about manifestations outside the synagogues, gatherings outside the synagogues. Um we have to be just aware. I'm not saying people shouldn't and everybody should go to shul and we don't give into this but the you know take into account and I think there's added security everywhere I go I see it even small places are taking some measures um into account to to be aware is one of the biggest steps and not to do you know to take actions that that bait some sort incident especially those who live on marginal uh margins of communities uh or in um mixed communities that have to be aware of the surroundings at all time and and work with the police be in touch with them now. won't wait till after you know to the day before Rashana to do it and to assure the security and especially at our schools now that they're all opening and and you can go to scan you can go to the CSS and and the uh security organizations that work with the community that are of the community to make sure that everything possible is being done even without having to spend huge sums of money. And to wrap up with some good news, Delta returns to Tel Aiv September 6th, the United September 8th, Isra October the 19th, and record North American Ali. What's amazing about this statistic of 2,000 Olim this summer from North America is that one more than 1,000 of them are singles, which is really amazing talking about the future of the Jewish people being in the state of Israel. The average age of the OL this time around the summer of 2026 29 years old must give you a lot of hope for the future. >> It is very important. So first of all that is good news. What's not such good news is that what they're charging for airplane tickets. Um we were hoping that once they get introduced into the system and maybe it will be the case um that Isra Air will bring down some of the prices uh of the the tickets. Uh people call me all the time to complain about it. I I don't get condition or anything so there's not much I can do. Uh but but there's there is good news and I know we we don't spend time but the something I talked about for a while here is saying pointing to the changes in South America. They were quiet. They were but over extended period. Look at every day week there's a new another announcement of a country adopting the IRA definition that Colombia, Panama, others and people uh got elected that people who were afraid that they would go the opposite way are in fact coming in in remarkable ways going to be recognized in the Golan Heights and I mean just diplomatic relations expanding. Foreign Minister of Israel has been traveling into the various South American countries, even Venezuela after Israel's presence there and helped uh after the tragedies there. Uh [clears throat] it this is very positive and South America is so important to the United States. Uh I think the um and I think the administration deserves some credit for this but we need to monitor this invested and uh I think Malay and Argentina's election was uh sort of pop the cork on it but this is very important u and I see also in Africa more countries still reaching out to Israel God willing when Israel will be able to refocus on some of these things but there are contacts ongoing there are uh diplomatic and other uh discussions taking place. What's not good is what's happening in Europe, especially you see in England and and Holland and Israel kicking out the Dutch representatives at the coordination center in Gaza. Uh both for what they're doing in the country and towards Israel, meaning the fight against the anti-semitic manifestations there. So there is good news. We have to encourage the good news. We have to make sure people get out to vote register now. That is the best news that we elect people who are friendly. You saw that people who were thought to be shuins are were were defeated. And the um El is a wakeup call that's really mobilizing people. They're beginning to see what this is really about. They they were skeptical. They didn't take it seriously. You know, even the the mayor of New York was elected with a small percentage of the vote and people accusing false figures for how many Jews voted for him. And it it just makes me crazy because they're exculpating the people and always putting the onus and saying things on radio and in interviews which are really damaging to the Jewish people and unfair. There are too many young people. It is a failure of their parents, a failure of the community to educate them and to get them to understand what's at stake. But there's history of it in throughout the generations. How many were attracted to communism and all these wild causes >> of course >> uh so you know I think the answer is not to be striking out within the community but to try to reach out to them, educate them. There are um record numbers on on some of the um birthright trips and for older people going by the way on birthright trips. I understand uh you know we have to do more and mostly to educate and get keep our voices in front of the public and where there are people who do these outrageous uh make the outrageous comments and talking about Tucker Carlson and my friend the Tucker Carlson people even from New York State who who assert that they are friends um have to be more careful with whom they associate. >> Very good point. Um, thanks so much for joining us. Have a wonderful Shabas and we'll speak please God next week. >> We will. But keep an eye on the tripartite relationship that is continuing. There are reports that Iran is uh saying that they got an invitation to join it. I I don't believe it. But there are a lot of things going on right now. A lot. And and because of all of the distractions, people are not focused. Uh the media is not focused. And and I think you will see a lot coming out of the administration soon exposing some of the outrageous nefarious activities within the United States. How expansive it is, how much money is involved, the billions, not millions, but billions involved in it that you you will see that what we've been talking about for these years was uh not hypothetical, but it's a reality that we confront today. >> 100%. Thank you so much. Have a wonderful job. Malcolm Homeline um weekly update conference of presidents of major American Jewish organizations.