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Nachum Segal interviewed Rabbi Yehoshua Frankenhuis about his latest ArtScroll release, "Inspired by Time: The Transformative Journey from Elul to Simchas Torah." Always remember to use promo code RADIO when shopping at ArtScroll.com Purchase the book: https://www.artscroll.com/Books/9781422649176.html
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Uh well, when you go to artscroll.com,
there's a brand new book that you need
to have and you need to read before um
before the L to Simus Torah journey
ends. Yeah, we're already on a journey
coming up.
It's a journey. It's quite a journey.
40 days between Roshes Shal and uh
and Yum Kipper then the additional days
of Sukus etc. Pretty amazing. Anyway,
the brand new book is inspired by time
the transformative journey from El to
Simas Torah. Rabbi Yeshua Frankenhouse
is with us live via telephone. He's the
author. Go to artscroll.com. Let me know
the rule. Always use promo code radio.
That's right. When you go to
artscroll.com, make sure to always use
promo code radio. The book is Inspired
by Time. Rabbi Yosha Frankenhouse. A
pleasure to welcome you to JM in the AM.
>> Hello. Good morning. Thank you so much
for having me.
>> A pleasure. How has your journey been so
far? Today is the 26th day in the month
of Lol. How would you evaluate your own
personal journey at the end of 5786?
>> Wow. So that's a brilliant question
because it's been quite a journey uh
having the regular avoid l and working
towards Rashana and at the same time
bringing out a book with art scroll and
a book which has been um so broadly
embraced uh and all the feedback and all
the demand for it. Yeah, it's been it's
been a tremendous balance but a real
privilege.
>> You do understand uh Rabbi that there
are so many people. I don't want to say
who um are are completely unaffected by
this time of year. That wouldn't be
fair. We're all aware of the fact that
Russashan is coming up. We know that
there needs to be, you know, special
attention paid to certain parts of our
lives during Lol and during and during
the days leading up to the brand new
year. But as you know for many it's a
challenge. For many they'll get to shul
on Friday night and you know sort of
expect you know like a light switch.
They'll expect you know the Russia mood
to turn on. What advice could you give
those whom are are saddened by the fact
that LOL hasn't had the effect on their
journey that it should have?
Well, so that's really the big question
of the time which everyone is asking and
really this book inspired by our time is
answering. Um, putting it short in the
few minutes we have together.
Traditionally, we always look at Elo and
Rashan and Yimipa as a time where
there's Hashem and he's looking at us,
scrutinizing us, expecting us to be a
lot more than we are. And I might be
true to a to a particular degree, but
really that's not what Rashan is all
about at all. And and if we change our
mindset rather than rash being a time of
fear and into a time when
is waiting for us to come back to him.
Uh and that's that's really the bottom
line because there's been a real
generational shift. Today people don't
relate don't connect to the kind of
avoid where it's all about fear and it's
all about having to conform to
particular things and we connect so much
more to the love and the beauty of the
time
>> and that's a good thing you're saying
>> it's a brilliant thing it's a fabulous
thing but more than anything it's
getting to know what uh what talks us in
this generation you know I I A while ago
I I read up there was once someone who
was bringing out a book on Pirka Avis
and he went to one of the very big
libraries and inquired how many books
are there? How many books exist on Pirka
Avis? And uh the librarian came back
with a huge amount, many thousands of
books. And the librarian was kind of
looking at him and saying, "And you're
going to bring out another book on a"
And his response was, "Yes, for sure."
Because every generation takes the same
Tyra and has a different way of talking
to them.
>> And that's exactly what we need to know.
Yes, it's the same Tyra. It's the same
rashana. It's the same kipa, but we need
to know it talks to us differently than
it did 20 years ago, 10 years ago, and
even even 5 years ago. And if we know
that and we try to connect to it in the
way that we can connect to it, then
yeah, we arrive uh we arrive on that day
very differently. We arrive on Friday
night as you said, really ready to be
embraced by Hashem.
>> Everybody Yeshua Frankenhouse is with
us. The book is called Inspired by Time.
artscroll.com.
So there's really two balances that we
need need to discuss at the beginning of
this conversation. The first one which
you just alluded to is I I'd call it
fear and love, right? Would that be the
balance that fear and or emotional
connection, right? That would be the the
two paths many many times which
intersect as we get closer to
Russashana. Right. The fear of heaven
and at the same time feeling the love or
the emotional connection with heaven.
>> Exactly. The other one and I think that
I mean this is something that you point
out in the book uh which I think is such
an important basis as we do enter um
this coming yontiff the high holidays
and that is the um uh the balance that
one needs between yom hadin the day of
judgment is upon us and at the same time
it is a day and the day that we take the
opportunity to proclaim God king over
the entire world. And Rabbi
Frankenhouse, I think you'd agree as you
analyze the liturgy of the high
holidays, we spend a lot more time on
the mel on the kingship aspect of
Russashana than we do on the judgment
aspect of Russash Shana.
>> Yes, definitely.
>> So, what should someone be feeling if
they if if it's actually Yamhadin?
It it should it be a day that we
concentrate on begging God to give us a
positive judgment? Should it be a day as
our liturgy um I don't want to say
demands but suggests that we spend the
majority of the time proclaiming him as
king? What is our goal on Russia Shana?
So let me share with you a very short a
very short story actually that we bring
in in this book inspired by time which
actually brings this out in a very
beautiful way. very briefly. Uh there
was a king who had a beautiful kingdom
and he was very beloved by everyone and
when he reached his 25th jubilee they
wanted to make a very very big
celebration and the whole country got
together and they set up a beautiful big
party and everybody children adults
grandparents everybody gathered together
and after all the festivities and all
the food and all the singing came the
highlight of the evening.
That's when each of the 10 children of
the king each of the 10 princes would go
up to the podium and uh speak give a
dasha explain a different aspect of the
king's uh of the king's great middas and
his um his his power. The oldest son got
up and started speaking about how kind
he was to everyone. The next one spoke
about how might he was the next one how
strategically smart he was and so on and
so forth.
Once that once nine sons had finished
them, they each gave their speech about
how amazing the king was and how amazing
his way of running the kingship was.
They arrived at the 10th child and they
wheeled him up to the stage because the
10th child was unfortunately born
handicapped. He was a special child, but
he couldn't talk, he couldn't walk, and
no one really knew how much he was able
to function. But he was the child which
the king liked the most because he
invested so much in him trying to make
him healthy, trying trying to to help
him realize his surroundings and make
the best out of this child as possible.
And everyone was a little concerned he
was going to go up on stage there and it
would be an embarrassing moment just
having him sitting there not responding,
not talking, not doing anything. and
they placed him next to the king and
indeed he was kind of looking into space
and everyone was cringing in their
places. This was an embarrassing moment.
But then all of a sudden this little boy
sitting in the wheelchair, this youngest
prince turn around to the king and
points to his mouth and says, "Ah." And
all of a sudden, everyone starts
clapping and cheering because that was a
moment everyone realized that although
he may be handicapped and although he
may be very limited in what he can do,
but he did realize who his father was,
he did realize who the one that was
giving him to eat was, which was a
tremendous achievement for this child.
>> Wow.
>> And that's really who we are and where
we are because yes, it's true. It's yin
and it's true. We're in a different
generation and we're so far from
everything. But although previous
generations they were able to go and dab
for Mal Shay in its real way and by them
it was just about Hashem's kingship, we
cannot do that. We're not quite holding
there and we're quite far from that. But
if we go and we speak to Hashem on this
day, and even if we're asking for
tanasa, we're asking for health, we're
asking for, we're asking for our our own
mundane things, that's still
expressing Hashem's kingship. Because in
a generation where no one knows how much
we actually recognize to Hashem, how how
much we recognize who Hashem is, and
we're showing we know he's the one
giving us food, that's actually the
greatest kingship which could possibly
be. And that's when all the Malahim and
all the previous generations are
actually looking down and saying this
was actually the best Russia way more
powerful than all the generations
beforehand.
>> What a fantastic story and a great
analogy. That's wonderful and it really
and especially today where many of us
are in the lap of luxury where many of
us think that things come to us very
easily where many of us think we're
going to live forever and many of us
think we have the answer to everything
every challenge that comes up whether
it's Barnasa health etc. Uh it's good to
be reminded who's in charge. It's good
to be reminded where it all comes from.
It's good to be reminded that there's a
renewal at the beginning of the year of
all of this. In fact, you write I don't
know if you have the book in front of
you, page 122. Um so you write here
about uh the the reason for instance we
say the we haven't seen somebody for a
month is that it's a you know a new a
new experience. Obviously you're seeing
somebody you're glad to see them. You
haven't seen them in a while. But the
brah you haven't seen someone in a year
is mim. And you say that gar explains
it's because rashash shana has the marsh
explains rashashana has passed. And
onash there's no kazaka. There's no
guarantee that our friend will be
granted life. When we see him it's like
witnessing the resurrection of the dead.
I never even I mean this is a brilliant
uh view of that. Obviously, not that
demar needs my needs my approbation,
but literally when the new year starts,
when those first moments of Russia begin
three nights from now, that's what it's
going to be. It's as if you have no
money in the bank. It's as if you have
no idea how long you're going to live
and if you're going to make it through
the next year. It's as if you have no
clue what God or anything in in terms
of, you know, things that you have no
idea what h what life has in store for
you. And I think that that's an amazing
perspective. It's a perspect you're
literally starting at zero and I never
really had that perspective before.
>> Wow. Yes. That's that's exactly how it
is. You know, I sometimes uh kind of
imagine this to myself. You know,
there's two kinds of doorbells. There's
the doorbell you press and it keeps on
ringing for a moment and there's the one
you need to keep keep on holding on to.
So throughout the year, you know, it's
kind of ringing. But comes Rashana like
you got to press the button again. And
uh yeah, that's what it's about. It's a
little scary but at the same time very
very exciting because it's not just in
the negative, it's also in the positive.
You know person's been struggling. You
know let's say persons had difficulty.
You know a lot of people are feeling
today the the financial crunch. You know
things the there's inflation and all all
kinds of other financial difficulties.
So now is a brand new year. There's no
guarantee you're gonna have what you
had, but there's no guarantee that the
difficulties you've had are going to
continue either.
>> You know, elsewhere in the book, I I you
know, I I I bring how, you know, this is
really the on
um you know, how the they didn't even
have a they didn't even have a womb. Why
is that to show us you're starting with
nothing and Hashem chooses this day to
give us everything a new
>> You know, someone can be struggling in
his in his learning. He, you know, he
can't understand. He can't understand
the daf. He can't understand or he's got
a child which simply doesn't have the
brain power or what we call in Yiddish
the zip flesh to sit through class. Uh,
you know, okay, that was last year. This
year it starts from scratch. You get a,
you know, a new womb. You get a new
brain. You get a new uh, you know, new
abilities.
>> No doubt about it. Rea Frankenhouse is
with us. The book is inspired by time.
And by the way, one of the things that
many people unfortunately, you know, go
through and suffer through is uh when
they're not able to have children. And
obviously, we get to rush Shana uh in
the next few days. And as you just said,
it's, you know, it's a brand new slate,
so to speak. As we don't know what
Hashem has in store for us and one
should really try to storm the heavens
with prayer because this could be the
year, as we know, this certainly could
be the year where a a couple that's
childless is blessed. And nobody knows
this better than you because you are the
author of the book Miracle Baby about
Rabbi and Rebbitson Fi Kashki and they
had a baby when he the father was 88
years old. We should also add that the
mother was 50 but he was 88 years old.
So, so you in fact wrote about a
situation where someone could have given
up hope but all the way into their high
80s did not give up hope.
Yes, well said that, you know, that was
an incredible experience writing that
book, you know, even more incredible to
see how people latched onto that story
for you know, since it's been brought
out in Hebrew and even French. Um, and
uh, yes, it's uh, it's unbelievable how
they continued waiting and how
eventually they got that. You know,
another rashana passed and another
rashana passed and another one passed
for 65 years. 65 rashas but eventually
they got it.
>> Yeah.
>> Um you know you know it is something the
tahara does do to us often. He says well
last year you dabed for this and the
year before you ded for this and you
didn't get it.
>> So um so yes, you know this is a
tremendous tremendous for us. You know,
after that story came out, I heard so
many I shouldn't say so many. I heard I
heard unusual comments that were along
the same line. And the comments
basically were, "How could one do this
to this child?" Meaning that it's
obvious that at some point, you know, if
if if nature takes its course, uh at
some point this child's going to be
growing up or getting into his teens and
20s without a father, right? again the
by nature's course and of course
obviously a miracle controls all of
that. I found that to be in Jewish
tradition a very unusual comment. I'm
wondering if you heard the same and if
you found it out of the ordinary
>> so I definitely got that comment or even
a question um you know and you know I
find that that question is actually you
know anyone who's asking that as a
question you isn't really grasping
what's going on over here because Oh, if
>> I'm so glad I'm so glad I'm so glad
you're saying this. I'm so glad I think
it's two things. I think it's what you
just said that they're not grasping the
situation, the enormity of it, and the
the the miracle of it. But in addition,
I think they're also judging the way
they think life needs to be by today's
standards instead of the standards of
the creator and the standards of what
thousands of people for thousands of
years lived with before we got to this
era of modernity. I don't know if I
don't know if you accept my second part,
but certainly I agree. I'm I would
assume you agree on the first part.
>> You could you couldn't have said it
better. And it's interesting actually
you know uh someone was just telling me
a few days ago interestingly enough a
few days ago that no one less than the
got remarried at the age of 70 which
back in the day you know that was what
we call a zl extremely elderly
>> and he had a daughter
>> right
>> and which she had and you know all the
grandchildren which we know today
>> all actually ended off coming from her
right
>> and all the you know the previous ones
Some didn't survive, some didn't stay on
the day of our mitzvah. You know, it's
not the first time in history it's
happened. But I want to add another
point and that is um you know well first
of all let me just tell you that you
know just just off the record this
morning came back again he's 90 years
old just that we understand he's 90
years old. He came back from a trip a
trip of a week and a half traveling from
Aritis to the UK and then to the US and
then back to uh and then back to Ro. He
arrived early this morning in Israel
>> and at 12:00 today he was again giving
Shik Kali to the entire yeshiva.
>> Wow.
>> Now that's not ordinary. You know, if
anyone has a question, how is he going
to manage to bring up this child? Well,
there you go.
>> Yeah. Um
>> I think I think it even goes beyond
that. But to be fair to you, we're not
discussing that book today, but I have
so much to say about this. Next, you're
you're based in Israel, right?
>> I am based in Israel.
>> So when I when I am in Israel, please
God, I don't know about the next time,
but at some point we'll be there a lot
more often than the near future. You and
I need to uh sit down for a nice
45minute interview about that book
specifically because I already hear that
there's a lot that you and I need to say
to the Jewish world about this topic.
And uh
>> that sounds that sounds great. Thank you
for that.
>> I'm glad you accept that. I'm also
thrilled that you just mentioned the
situation with the
I will I will uh surprise you by telling
you that Ram Trup was at my bar mitzvah.
>> Oh wow.
>> Yeah,
>> that is a surprise. That's amazing.
>> Rabbi my my uh my grandmother was a
sapier.
>> Uhhuh.
>> So hence hence her hence her sister
married into the family. My grandparents
were from I mean my grandmother
specifically her side of the family were
from Roden. So um
>> Wow. So So was that actually something
you knew about?
>> Yeah, of course.
Meaning meaning in terms of in terms of
second marriage,
>> the second the second marriage and
that's where uh his main you know his
main course should we say
>> the lineage the majority of the lineage
comes from there
>> and there and in the and in the family
annals it was it was the different
stages of his marital life that we
always discussed his attempts to live in
Israel. My grandmother was in pakikvah
among the people preparing for his
arrival and then you know through each
each scenario I his wife got sick
daughter got sick I mean I believe with
a second wife once she had passed away
it was just he felt it was too late for
him to go so so all of his familial
situations affected his desire to be in
the holy land
>> anyway.
>> Wow. Wow.
>> Yeah. You know, I I will mention there's
another, you know, a little off topic,
but uh, you know, with it's it's amazing
how, you know, he already had the life
behind him and, you know, he could have
just said, you know, let's, you know,
let's just finish off my golden year.
But no, he decided to, you know, for me
this was, you know, totally separate but
a very strong inspiration for this time
because many of us after however many
Rashanas kind of flow along with it. But
here we see that's not how our guil take
it. They they're like no you can be 70
years old and still refresh still go for
another round.
>> 100%. Such an important point. And and
when's the yard site? Of course, at the
end of L, right?
>> Well, well, it just was early on this
week.
>> I'm saying so the second half of El as
we're doing all this and talking about
as as you're saying this. Yes.
>> Hisight happens to be during these days.
All right. So, Russia Shana and then of
course the intensity uh builds. We get
to the Seris Chuva. We build up to Yum
Kipper. Um and I don't think anything
needs to be said to this audience about
the importance of those days. We all
know what that part of the journey is uh
is about. Probably the easiest part of
the journey for us to comprehend. Uh but
then you add on sukus hosaba
simus Torah. Many people would leave the
40 days as a separate 40-day period.
They'd leave
Kipper as its own entity. uh you felt it
fitting um in the in the context of this
book and this journey that they need to
be part of this whole um of this whole
journey. Explain that to us.
>> Oh wow. So you really hit the nail on
the head because you know there's a lot
of people that kind of believe wanting
Kipper reaches uh you know.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Basm has begun.
>> Benas man has begun. You know, as we
say, you know, you make the bro on the
bagel and then is behind you.
>> Correct. The real manimo.
>> Exactly. So, so, so, so, so those are
most people. And then you have the
people that have uh read inspired by
time uh who who get to learn that it's
actually it's actually quite the
opposite. Those are the very beginning
days. It's uh perhaps the days of
Chuviera. It's perhaps the days when you
begin uh begin the relationship but it's
the beginning of a journey. You know, we
actually ended off calling this book,
you know, quite a lot of thought went
into it with a transformative journey
from L to Simra.
>> You know, you you've began the journey.
You're well on the way, but the best is
still to come. Sukus and even Shambas,
you're simply ascending up a ladder and
those days are so exciting. You're
you're being so embraced by Hashem.
There's so much going on there. There's
so much love going on there. you know,
we don't have a a time for an all-out
speech, but in 30 seconds, you know,
Rabb Israel Taba says, you know, imagine
you have a husband who comes along to
his rabbi and says, "My wife, it's
terrible. She doesn't keep the house,
you know, the laundry, the the cooking.
She doesn't do any of that." And she's a
sour face. She's always angry. She she's
always upset. And the rabbi says, "You
know, I have a solution for you. They
just came out with a toe which can cure
one of those two problems. choose one of
them. Would you choose? Of course,
you're going to choose uh that, you
know, that she's not anymore what we
call a grumpy face, that she's a happy
wife,
>> right?
>> Uh you know, so so there's no laundry or
send everything into the dry cleaners.
So there's no uh food buy, you know, as
we say,
you know, you can you can work out
everything other than a grumpy head.
That's really, you know, this is Rabbi
Taba. This isn't me. That's really what
Sukus is all about. We're moving on onto
the stages of a of love of the real
relationship until you know everything
else until then it was a tremendous aid
tremendous work but it wasn't yet the
essence of the relationship.
>> Interesting. I was thinking that um you
know the 10 days and obviously these
days of etc. It's such spiritual
heights. I mean outside of chauffeur and
I know there are a couple of other
things but outside of chauffeur not that
that many mitzvah I say that are unique
to this period of time. Uh, and that's
more of a communal mitzvah anyway. Um,
and then you get to sukus the day
immediately, you know, just a couple of
days like you're told right away. You're
told after the suda on on Monday night,
you're told go build the suka. You know,
you're you're you're told go shop for
your little estri. uh we go and we and
we take the we and we actively
physically go into the and we have
and we have and we do this to the nth
degree on Oshana and then of course sim
I don't have to tell you every every age
every member of the family you know has
a role in making you know wonderful and
a real physical commemoration of this so
just interesting because I I was
thinking of it from this standpoint the
whole you know the the the great levels
of emotional spirituality and then all
of a sudden what's the connection to
sukus etc. You have this ability to
physically be out there and show that
you're you know running after all these
mitzvah and spending hours and hours on
them.
>> Just a thought.
>> Just a thought. It's it's it's
incredible and it's a contrast uh which
you know which as you said you got to
understand it if you're you know if
you're just going through the motions
and running around doing the mitzvah
it's amazing
>> but you've not really connected if you
learn about it and you understand what's
going on. It's just a different
different experience.
>> Yeah. No doubt about it. It really and
it's funny because if if you really get
into it, you understand the whole uh the
whole issue of uh of of God having
difficulty separating from us, you
understand the whole issue of Shidia of
an additional day where he just doesn't
want this to end. You know, it's it's
it's funny. But I I I think as the more
insight one has into it, the more they
appreciate that.
>> Yeah. Because you know, because everyone
finds it strange and Hashem can't let go
of us, so he gives us another day. or
really you've made it even harder,
right?
>> But uh yeah, that these are things these
are things you've got to, you know, we
can't we can't spend three hours here
giving giving away all the secrets uh
for that art world have done a great job
and brought this out.
>> Yeah, no doubt. Wonderful job. Really
nice. Can't wait to meet you. Uh where
are you from originally, by the way?
>> I'm originally from Manchester in the
UK. And
>> there's some Jews in Manchester, huh?
>> Would you believe it? Some in fact were
named Seagal if I'm not mistaken.
>> Yeah. Is that uh is that any kind of
relative to you?
>> Not related but I have so many close
friends who were talidum of his that I
could tell you some amazing stories
which I will when I see you in Israel.
>> Yeah. Wow. That that sounds amazing
because our family had very very close
uh connections with uh uh you know with
Rashida.
>> Oh, I can't wait to hear I cannot wait
to hear your stories. Oh, I cannot wait.
>> Yeah, there there's some there's some
real great ones over there. You know,
it's not for now, but I will share with
you uh I am a triplet and the Rashiva
had a very lot to do with that. But we
can't go off topic now, can we?
>> No, but I'll tell you I'm the father of
triplets.
>> You are.
>> What are you? You have a you have a
sister, brother. What are you? What
combination
>> exactly? I have I have a brother, a
sister, and then me. I'm the youngest of
the of the three. So, we have girl, boy,
boy. Are yours also girl boy?
>> It's boy, girl, boy.
>> Almost. Almost exact. The book is
inspired by time. Look at this. I
already feel like I have a real kinship
with her by Franken House. Uh, the
inspired by time. It's the
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Toro. We cannot recommend it enough.
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in more ways than one. Rabbi
Frankenhouse, I take this opportunity
first of all to thank you because I I
believe that mine and no doubt other
listeners uh and readers are going to
have an enhanced yiff because of you. Uh
and secondly, I take this opportunity to
wish you ava happy, healthy and sweet
new year.
>> Amen.
Good to you and all the listeners and
thank you so much for having me.
>> A real pleasure. Zazuna good you are.
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