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NYC Election Recap and More with Jake Novak on JM in the AM
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Nachum Segal welcomed Jake Novak, Host and Executive Producer of American Sunrise Early Edition, back to JM in the AM to recap the NYC Mayoral Election and discuss a number of important issues concerning New Yorkers and the Jewish community at large.
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This is America's one and only Jewish
moments in the morning radio program
heard on listener sponsored digital
radio from around the world web.com on
the alumn network and of course the
beloved NSN app. Jake Novak is with us
live via telephone. He's anchor and
executive producer at American Sunrise
early edition on Real America's Voice
and uh he's with us live via telephone
on a Thursday morning broadcast. Jake, a
pleasure to welcome you back to JM in
the AM.
>> Thanks. Always great to hear from you.
>> I hope I got the title right.
>> Yeah, good enough.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, good. No, you did. You got it all
right. 100%.
>> Did you you know, one of the one of the
things that um always fascinate us about
you certainly over the last four to
eight years has been your ability to
predict
uh elections and you're really on target
a good amount of the time. I mean, you
may tell me it's 100%, but if it's not,
it's certainly close to it. What were
your feelings going into Tuesday about
the three races that everybody was
talking about? Did they end up in the
num in the number and percentage range
that you were thinking of?
>> Well, I did two out of three. I did two
out of three. Uh I I expected Virginia
to go to Abigail Spanberger. I expected
Zoron Mdani to win the election in New
York. Uh I was surprised. I thought Jack
Chidarelli would pull out New Jersey.
And you know, I'm not I listen, I'm not
I'm conceding to feed. I'm not I'm not
being a sore loser here. Although, they
do need to look into the fact that there
were 500,000 more votes in New Jersey uh
on Tuesday than there were in the
presidential election. That's a massive
massive anomaly that doesn't happen. So,
we got to look into that. Although, I
don't think that's going to change the
results. So, I was wrong about that one.
But, uh so, no, I mean, it's pretty much
as I expected. Um, and sadly, you know,
I mean, I but and as I was saying going
into these elections, you know, I like
to do a lot of pre I'm like this I'm the
six day war anchor. I like preemptive
strike stuff.
>> And I know exactly what the mainstream
news media is going to say about things
before they say it or when they start to
say it. And I like to preempt everyone
from hearing it uh without my without
the truth coming first. And I kept
telling everybody this these are whole
serve elections for the Democrats. This
is America's blest city in New York
City. These are two states in Virginia
and New Jersey that clearly not not
overwhelmingly, but very clearly voted
for Camela Harris. Not Joe Biden, not
but Camela Harris. So the idea that the
Republicans not winning any one of those
three elections is some kind of big
rebuke to Trump is baloney. It's a joke.
But we also need to be vigilant and
humble about this. There were some
aspects of the votes in the in
especially in New Jersey that the Trump
administration should look at very
closely and see what it can learn from
it besides just oh Trump wasn't on the
ballot and that doesn't bring out people
which is an issue by the way.
>> Yeah, I understand that. A little
surprised about the uh the margin of
victory in New Jersey as you indicated.
>> Uh but I also felt bad for Chidarelli
for one reason. If he would have run a
year earlier, he would have won.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's there's
something to be said for
ending this staggered election process
in America. Um, I don't I think that
first of all, we should have fewer
elected fewer elective office in this
country. I mean, you know, here in New
York, we have so many different layers
of people that we're voting for,
constantly voting, voting, voting, all
these people who are on pensions and are
doing, you know, Lord knows what to our
country. I I just don't I think that but
second of all, I do think that when you
have the most engagement, you talk about
voter suppression, the biggest voter
suppression is is, you know, we're just
tired of it all. We is fatigue. That's
the biggest voter suppression,
>> right?
>> And if you do have an a presidential
election every four years that really
gains everyone's attention, that wakes
people up, then that's when you should
have as many other elections as well
because people are paying more attention
and and on and on down the line. Plus,
it would be great just to not hear only
about the presidential election every
single day and also about some of the
others.
>> Yeah. I mean, the again in New Jersey,
it would uh certainly a year ago things
would have been very very different. I
mean, that we know.
>> Um but it's it's I I wonder about this
and and and it's funny because
piggybacking on what you just said,
isn't it interesting that the city of
New York on Prop Six decided not to go
in that direction and to leave it as
staggered?
>> Yeah. um you know this is big money
>> these political consulting firms right
>> get you know they they take a break in
these off years but they don't want to
have no money coming in
>> right
>> um so that's part of it
>> great for the news media I mean if you
live here in the New York New Jersey
metropolitan area boy the commercials
were crazy
>> and back to back to back
>> yeah I mean this was the this was the
greatest thing that ever happened to the
media outlets because we really haven't
had a contended
contentious, massively, you know, down
to the wire mayor's race in New York
City since 1993 when Giuliani beat um
Dinkens. So, it's been 32 years since
they raded in that kind of cash.
>> Yeah, but I would still say in
Bloomberg's third term, he did pour a
lot of cash into those outlets. But I
hear what you're saying. That may that
may have been a bit of an aberration.
Jake Novak's with us. All right. Uh so
now analyze New York for a second. I I
said that, you know, it it would be, I
don't know, psychologically beneficial.
I use whatever term you want if Manny
would get over 50%. Um, they'd use the
term mandate more. And it it's funny, it
wasn't just me analyzing it. There were
a lot of people on TV who, you know,
from his headquarters who were hoping
for that 50. So now, the fact that he
did hurdle over 50 means what?
>> It means the city council of New York is
going to rubber stamp him. Now, luckily
for us, the New York State Assembly up
in Albany um is uh is still a roadblock
and a potential stopper on some of the
things he wants to do. But even they now
will be much more of a rubber stamp
operation for him. For people who think
that there's going to be this stand up
standing up to him at the city council,
forget that. That's not happening. The
state assembly, not so much either
because of this 50% number. So, it's up
to us. You know, I I called it on my
program this morning, Fight Back
Thursday, which you can watch after you
listen to, you know, you should always
listen to live and you can watch me and
you pay attention to my show on tape.
>> Thank you. Excellent. Excellent advice.
>> Yes, you can. My show is much better on
tape anyway. Um, you can analyze it, you
can stop it, things like that.
>> So, there's that. But uh it's so this
needs to be something you know Malcolm
this is the first time I think in Jewish
history where a vicious anti-semite has
been has come to power and the smart the
smart answer is not to run and hide
sorry sadly that's been the answer most
of the time run hide get out power
whatever you got to do now we are still
in a country thank goodness where we
have our first amendment rights where we
can assemble and push back against this
guy I mean literally there should be a
minion outside of his office and outside
of Gracie Mansion at least every day uh
holding vigil on this guy at least at
least and and and hounding him legally
legally but hounding him. We can do that
still those and we can and and we can do
all those things. Um, I think that there
should be a large effort by Jewish
communities to get on the CCB, the
civilian con complaint review board,
which in unless good people start to try
to flood to get on there, it's going to
be people by Mam Donni advocates who are
going to take the police department's
right to do their job away. This is the
time to stand up more because they have
to do it. And running away isn't the
answer this time. This isn't Thesar.
this isn't um you know this isn't you
know this isn't some of the other people
I'm not going to mention where you
better just kind of get out. Uh we still
have a right to stand up to this guy and
I think we really need to and anyone who
doesn't do that. I'm sorry you know a
sermon or two by some of these large
congregational rabbis on October 18th
whenever it was was way too late was too
little and too late to say the least. We
need to stand up now.
>> Yeah. I mean you're making such a good
point. Um the uh the the mantra
once it became obvious that this was a
losing cause in New York, the mantra
among Jewish leaders became all right,
you know, at least we now have a robust
registration for the next time and maybe
this will encourage people to, you know,
stay on top of the registration drives,
etc., etc. So yes, way too late for now,
but as you just said, you know, an
opportunity to fight in the future and
and one of the ways we fight obviously
is at the polls. I mean, that's one of
the most obvious ways. But I got to go
back to the other point you made because
one of the things that that so many kept
harping on, antimandi people, many from
our community kept harping on was he
can't get done the stuff he wants to get
done. He needs city council approval,
Albany approval, Hokll approval, etc.,
etc. So you're basically saying, "Hey
guys, I hate to tell you, but after his
performance on Tuesday, he basically has
all of those."
>> He does. And but that's also liberating
in a way because here's what they're
going to say in if anyone in the state
assembly stands up to him, Republican or
Democrat or in the city council, they're
immediately going to be smeared as not
only not listening to the voice of the
people, but they're also going to say,
"You're a racist, you're Islam, you're
you're an Islamophobe." They're going to
say all those things anyway. Which is
why, and this is something else I said
on my program this morning,
>> the first thing that should be done to
stand up to this guy because we can't
rely on the city council and the
assembly is absolutely start calling
for, even if they don't do it, but
regularly calling for the Justice
Department to indict and begin the
process of deporting Zoran Mamani. Will
it happen? No. Will they call you some
kind of crazy racist cook for saying
that? Here's a news alert. They're going
to call you that any anyway for opposing
him on any policy. We have very solid
evidence that he took money from foreign
donors. $13,000 at least in campaign
finance violations. And we also know
that he's he's associated with kamas and
kamas supporters. That should be enough
to begin a process of dnaturalizing his
citizenship. Will it happen? That
doesn't matter. But the Jewish leaders
of this city and all of us any decent
people should be saying we want this guy
indicted and deported. Whether it
happens or not, you know that if the the
if the positions were flipped and there
was someone who was a proTrump supporter
who got elected mayor, they would be
trying to do that to him or her.
>> That has got to be the the first part of
it. The fact that we don't we're not
going to stand on ceremony for this.
This these are the lives of our fellow
Jews and our fellow New Yorkers that are
at stake.
>> Understood. But this is very different
than what seems to be the uh uh the
Jewish outlook since Tuesday night. It
it seems like uh most Jewish leaders,
you could put that word word in quotes
if you want, but most are now
encouraging people to, you know, reach
out, make sure we have a good
relationship with city hall, etc., etc.
That's very different from what you're
proposing.
>> Yeah. I I think that there should be a
physical presence of many Jews at city
hall every day. A a running, you know,
let's use the playbook, an encampment of
some kind, you know, again, not the same
kind as they're on the campuses. And I
think there should be a regular voice
against this. Uh, and there really
should be this should really wake people
up. You know, it says in I wish I could
quote the exact dot, but I know it says
in your something along the lines of if
you want to destroy the Jews, just leave
us alone. We'll do it ourselves. Um, and
all I can say is, you know, I again, I
don't know the exact do and and but I'll
tell you, I know it's there. So, I
should just get on safari.org. I have no
excuse for not knowing this, but you
know, honestly, that's the case. And
hopefully this will remind everybody
that we can't we can't be dormant. And I
can say this again, and I I I wish it
didn't happen, but I can tell you even
in my own children, the last few years
since October 7th has absolutely kindled
something in them that otherwise
wouldn't be there, especially my older
daughter.
>> So, you know, let's try to make
something of this, but the answer is not
to be
>> I'm sorry. It's not to be let's be
friends. This is not a question of that.
What what we will do for decency and
friendship is we will not advocate any
violence. We will not um we we will be
disruptive but not uh but you know that
within certain parameters
>> but not but not destructive. Right.
>> That's right. That's right. And that's
and that's and that's all the latitude
this guy deserves. That's it.
>> Jake Novak's with us. Uh by the way they
did they study a lot of Yushami and
Yeshiva Flatbush or that came from
somewhere else? I mean,
>> well, you know, that's that's my father
who's one of the great one of the great
scholars of Yurali. Uh his and his uh
his teacher um you know, so no, it's
it's rare. But I got to tell you, it
comes in handy at the seder. The seder
is very Urishami peppered and people
don't know that, including the whole
Afyikman thing is a Urashami thing by
the way.
>> Kaote Jake got to have you on again
before Pesak. Do you have any pride and
I know I know that this it's not your
job to concentrate on the Jewish
community but as you saw the the I don't
want to use the word panic as you saw
the m the momentum as you saw all the uh
the the leaders talking about especially
the rabbitic leaders you know who spoke
about even the concept of of leaving the
bait midrash in order to go vote like
that's how critical and important it is
certain schools some of which you may be
very familiar with who wouldn't allow
registration for students if the parents
weren't registered to vote
etc., etc. Did Did that Did Were you
impressed by that or were still as a
community falling way short?
>> Well, that's a great that's a great uh
momentum getting started. Here's where
we're falling short. And by the way, I
would say this about the Asian-American
community as well. That's another
discussion. We're falling short in
putting candidates up for office. We
always have. We always have. We've been
lucky that we've had some people who
have turned out to be, you know, who
were ethnically Jewish who turned out to
be good mayors. Um, I know he was a
Democrat and all that, but I'll defend
>> uh Ed C Ed Cot to the last day. I think
he was an effective mayor and started
the process. I think Abe Beam wasn't a
terrible mayor either, but these people
were just ethnically Jewish. I mean, I I
can't I can't make it I can't I can't
kick them out of the I'm not I'm not
interested in that either. But the point
is, we don't have the greatest
candidates and we have some young people
who have potential to be great
candidates, but they need a lot better
packaging. you know, for all the media
experts in the Jewish world, uh, we
don't have them in the well, we just
don't seem to have them for our own
candidates. So, this has to go now
beyond
>> well, registration. Many of them feel
they'll they'll make more money and have
a higher profile in the world of media
instead of the world of politics. But
you just raised but you just raised such
an important point that I never really
thought about because every, you know,
cynically very often we see somebody who
wants to run for a position, even a
low-level position in government, and we
just think of, you know, oh, this is
somebody feeding their ego, etc., etc.
But the reality is, as you just
described, we need to groom good people,
males and females in our community who
we think have the potential to really,
you know, lead and make a proper
presentation. Again, your case, you
know, Cotch, Beam, Bloomberg, these
people were, you know, representative
our of our people, but did so, you know,
respectfully. They were they weren't
maniacs like some of the people we see
who run for office, you know, with the
amiggas on sometimes, uh, unfortunately.
Um but but you're right, we need to pay
more attention to when we see young
talent, kids in their 20s who, you know,
have this potential that they've got to
be encouraged to do so.
>> Yeah. Well, we have we have an example
of that, I think, here in Nassau County
where I live in Bruce Blakeman, right?
>> Bruce Blakeman is a proud Jew. I I I
know he didn't grow up very traditional.
He's becoming more traditional every
day, by the way, that people are working
on him. But
>> Kabad got a hold of him.
>> Yeah. But but look what he's doing.
Well, he's married to someone I went to
high school with, so that helps. Um, but
you know, Yeah. But you know, he
>> look what he's doing not only for the
Jewish community, but one of the most
brilliant political moves that of course
the mainstream media didn't get and
mostly because they opposed him, but
also because they don't understand
religion. When Bruce Blakeman made that
move a little bit more than a year ago
to ban boys and girls sports in Nassau
County and Nassau County facilities,
right?
>> That was an outreach to the Catholic
community here in Nassau County. You
know, anyone who lives here knows that
it it ain't about boys sports in the
high schools here. It's about girls
sports. I rode the Long Island Railroad
to work for more than 20 years every
day. And I never heard the parents talk
about their boys in high school sports.
It was always about the girls. And these
were Catholics on Long Island talking
about their girls who they wanted to get
into. Forom, Notre Dame, Georgetown,
Boston College, maybe with the
scholarship. and he understood that
girls sports being disrupted here in
Nassau County was a disaster for the
Catholic community. That this was a
Jewish guy who's who who comes from a
traditional back and not personally but
is now living in a traditional
background. So my point is we don't have
we can be so much better at the identity
politics thing because we're such a
small minority
>> than I think others. You know, we're not
going to be the Jewish guy for the
Jewish community only or the Jewish gal.
I think that we can do a better job of
that. Bruce Slakeman is a great example.
And by the way, even in New York, where
it's much easier to be the Jewish guy
because of the way districts are in the
state and the city, those who've been
effective in the role that you just
described, have had tremendously
positive have had tremendous positive
outreach to other communities, have
worked really well with other
communities and have been there to do
favors for and to, you know, and and and
and to be aligned with those who have
common cause. And I think that's a very
important point. We sometimes lose sight
of that because we always look at that
guy as the Jewish guy in the assembly,
city council, or wherever it might be.
But the reality is they're only
successful if they do what you just
described.
>> Yeah. And it pays dividends. You know,
when I was in high school, we started to
hear the narrative of, well, Jews did so
much for the black community and now
they're not getting it back. And I and
believe me, that is a huge problem. But
>> it does pay dividends. Bruce Blakeman
got a black woman member of the Nassau
County legislature years ago when the
whole Ben & Jerry's thing started. Not
only did she support Nassau County
boycotting Ben & Jerry's over that, but
she got on the microphone at an event
that I was at personally and looked into
the camera and said, "As a black woman,
look growing up in America, I know what
it's like not to be served." Boy, was
that powerful. And he got a good
dividend from that.
>> Amazing. Amazing. Yeah. And this I mean,
there's so many examples. Sometimes
people are shocked when a a real
left-winger, you know, will will um will
abstain from a vote, you know, when it
comes to Iran or Israel or something and
nobody understands why. and then you
find out that, you know, there's been a
tremendous respectful effort behind the
scenes to have a relationship with that
congressperson to to, you know, explain
the circumstances. You know, it's it's
all what it comes down to. Uh the
yelling and screaming doesn't work
except in the case that you cited where
uh we could use a little bit of yelling
and screaming outside of city hall.
That's
>> Yeah. You know, not destructively so,
>> but that has to happen if unless you
know, again, uh this we should do this
for our ancestors. our ancestors who had
no choice but to run and hide. You know,
golden mir had to live like some part of
her childhood in a basement in Ukraine
because of pgrams. We don't have to do
that. We can still speak out in this
country. Uh many of us can arm
ourselves. We can do a bunch of things
and and not be afraid at least at least
for now while we still have that right.
We better take advantage of it.
>> Right. What do you think of his um
proposal? I guess we'd call it this. I
don't want I don't want to say pledge,
but a proposal to retain the police
commissioner in New York City.
Well, it's again we got to find out in
what role will the police commissioner
be retained? Will he strip the police
commissioner's power to dis the ultimate
power to either to fire cops? That still
remains with the commissioner in the
commissioner's office. If he hands it
over to the CCB, it doesn't matter who
the commissioner is. That will be
disastrous. So, I'm very, you know, so
uh we got to read the fine print on
that. Not
>> Wow. Boy, there's so much to consider.
And she's smart enough, by the way, that
if it is as you just described, she
probably wouldn't take the job anyway,
right?
>> Yeah. Well, I you know, again, she would
have to but I hope that she wouldn't go
down without a fight. The fire
commissioner stepped down and just kind
of quietly I I mean, I think that this
needs to be I mean, look at these people
who President Trump has tried to fire or
remove from positions. They suddenly
become a cause celeb. Lisa Cook on the
Fed is still won't won't leave. She's
still there. Why can't we do that here?
I I don't understand.
>> By the way, the last thing I thought of
you when I saw this, I don't know if
you've seen the Virginia map of of the
vote on Tuesday. Isn't it unbelievable?
I don't know if it's 90% or 80%. It's
somewhere up there of the counties were
red, but you get a couple of really
strong inner city areas and and you're
going to win the election. Simple as
that.
>> Yeah. Well, this is so much reaffirming
for those of you learning in your civics
classes, and I hope you are about the
Constitution and the and the great
compromises that created our government
system. The founding fathers knew very
well that this would happen unless they
they fixed it. In other words, they knew
that the great population centers would
could possibly overrun the more rural
areas of the country and they wanted a
fair balance. That's why every state
gets two senators and that's why we have
the electoral college and things like
that. And when that balance becomes uh
out of whack to the point where so many
counties and the culture of each of
those counties is overrun by one
population center which can easily be
filled with foreigners, out of stator,
all that kind of thing, then you're
really you're having a problem. And one
of the questions that needs to be asked
is how do we get these people more
involved in these areas? And the answer
is to get the voices louder. Um, people
haven't heard the voices of rural
America. I was lucky enough to grow up
in a great amount of rural America
before I came to New York at high school
time. So that I'm lucky, but most people
haven't had that opportunity.
>> Interesting. I always appreciate your
analysis and uh carry on. What are you
looking at next? What's happening a year
from now? Anything we should be uh made
aware of? Well, it's the whole the whole
house next year, right?
>> Yes. But this governor's race in New
York State now really should be our
focus. And obviously Elise Stfanic is
going to carry the torch against Kathy
Hokll. And I think that this is our
time. I mean, this is obviously the
first thing that we can sort of co you
know, rally around as far as uh for, you
know, looking ahead. and Stefonic. Now,
there's going to be a massive massive
effort for and against her in the next
few months uh to try to start 2026
um with how you know see either she's
going to be ahead of the game or a
little bit behind. So, she should really
take this opportunity to really lead
this. And as much as the Republicans
need every vote they have in the House,
I would strongly strongly recommend that
Elise Stefanic resign at the end of this
year from her congressional seat and put
her full full attentions on this
governor's race.
>> Wow.
>> Um and and and I think that she should
be rewarded for that with tremendous
Jewish support, tremendous rallying
around her. Some people actually think
she's Jewish. She's not, by the way, for
those of you who are confused about
that. So, everyone needs to I think that
needs to be the the real central focus
and um and make it a full state
campaign, but she should really campaign
downstate as much as possible. Even
though obviously most Republican votes
don't come from here, she should be a
regular in Brooklyn and in Queens. I
would really I would really advise her
to do that.
>> Interesting. Uh Hokll still had my
support until You want to fill in the
blank, Jake? until
>> she endorsed mom Donnie
>> until congestion pricing.
>> Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, I I
think she has the worst political
consultant um advice in the history of
any American politician. She's
indicative of our problem. Wow.
>> We don't have people who work for
individually their candidates. They work
for the central office DNC. Any
political consultant would have told you
your poll numbers are going to go
through the roof if you resend cash free
bail if you don't do this congestion
pricing thing and you and you're clear
on it and know that Washington DNC won't
be happy with you, but you will win and
be really really popular and we can even
think about launching you for president
one day if you're interested in that.
Instead, she made all those wrong
decisions because the people who
supposedly work for Kathy Hokll do not
work for her. They work for the National
DNC and it's so blatantly obvious.
>> Wow. Brilliant. And of course, when you
put pressure like that on someone like
her, she's going to cave in every time.
>> Yeah. She doesn't have the chops or the,
you know, she reminds me of the people
I've worked in this business for a long
long time who will read anything you put
in the teleprompter. Full disclosure, I
read the teleprompter, too, but I wrote
every word in it, so I'm giving myself a
pass.
>> That's one that's one way to kazer over
what you're about to say.
>> That's right.
>> Uh Jake, I thank you. Thanks so much and
continued good luck to you.
>> My pleasure. My pleasure.
>> Uh, always amazing to hear analysis from
Jake Novak, anchor and executive
producer at American Sunrise early
edition. Um, on Real America's Voice,
and I thank him, and uh, he gave us a
really, really big chunk of time today,
and I appreciate that very much. Uh,
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